Redbox is awesome guys. Just beat infamous 2. Only cost me 2.17. I'm lovingit

Anyone try any other games on redbox? Just launched on the 16th. They have pretty good initial selection.

The kiosk at the Walmart right down the street from me doesn't have games in it :( I've never used Redbox though. Do you have to return the movie or game within a certain time period?

Damn is the game that short? And no I haven't tried it yet.Dr_Snood

About 8-10 hours. I didn't do much side missions though.

I'm gonna try red faction armegeddon. I heard that game is even shorter. Gonna beat it for 2 bucks. lol.

I didn't know Redbox was doing games too, that's pretty cool.Luxen90

Damn is the game that short? And no I haven't tried it yet.Dr_Snood

The kiosk at the Walmart right down the street from me doesn't have games in it :( I've never used Redbox though. Do you have to return the movie or game within a certain time period?

Not-A-Stalker

It's 2 dollars per day. I would rent the game after 9 am. Then you have it for 36 hours.

since when did this start happening?

I gotta get on that RedBox now that it's offering Games.

Might save some money on this.

[QUOTE="Luxen90"]I didn't know Redbox was doing games too, that's pretty cool.Dr_Snood

Stuff like this is killing off developers.GeneralShowzer

Yep. Although digital distribution is going to kill off Redbox.

Got a question. If I rent a game then could I return the game to a location that doesnt have games?

Stuff like this is killing off developers.GeneralShowzer

Don't rental services likes this have to pay royalties to the developers? I though that's how they were allowed to rent the games out in the first place.

Stuff like this is killing off developers.GeneralShowzer

or.. widens the audience with increased availbility. It's not much different then renting games from blockbuster used to be...

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Stuff like this is killing off developers.tccavey2

or.. widens the audience with increased availbility. It's not much different then renting games from blockbuster used to be...

I'd rather wait for a price cut and buy the game, I don't like renting, I like owning

Stuff like this is killing off developers.GeneralShowzer

Its going to hurt the industry, but I think it will have a greater effect on bad games. Anyone interested in DNF for example should just rent it for a day and get it out of their systems like I did. I played the game for 2 hours or so and just returned it. Whats really great about the service is you can actually get new games right away not having to wait weeks from gamefly or if you actually still have brick and mortar places still open not have to fight over the 2-3 copies they usually only get.

I picked up Infamous 2 and I think the projected price for beating it will be $6 bucks. Though, I sorta feel guilty about this because Infamous 2 is an awesome game.

you beat it in one night?

[QUOTE="Dr_Snood"][QUOTE="Luxen90"]I didn't know Redbox was doing games too, that's pretty cool.Elann2008

still not as good as Gamefly

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Stuff like this is killing off developers.Kickinurass

Don't rental services likes this have to pay royalties to the developers? I though that's how they were allowed to rent the games out in the first place.

I might use it just to try out new games before purchasing them.

Stuff like this is killing off developers.GeneralShowzer

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Stuff like this is killing off developers.enterawesome

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

it's no use man. rental services and the used games market have all of a sudden become an evil scurge on the industry, much worse than piracy.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Stuff like this is killing off developers.enterawesome

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Stuff like this is killing off developers.lazerface216

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

it's no use man. rental services and the used games market have all of a sudden become an evil scurge on the industry, much worse than piracy.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Stuff like this is killing off developers.GeneralShowzer

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="enterawesome"] No it's not. Rental services have existed since home consoles existed and it's been fine so far. Not to mention they still make money because Redbox has to buy those games themselves. And then there's also a discrepancy of consumers between people who would purchase and those that wouldn't, because a lot of people who choose to rent games are renting them because they wouldn't buy them at a store otherwise.

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

enterawesome

He played trough a just released game for 2$... I don't know how rentals really work, never really used them.Maybe some renting services are good for the publishers. But this isn't good. It will just kill SP gaming more rapidly.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"] No it's not. Rental services have existed since home consoles existed and it's been fine so far. Not to mention they still make money because Redbox has to buy those games themselves. And then there's also a discrepancy of consumers between people who would purchase and those that wouldn't, because a lot of people who choose to rent games are renting them because they wouldn't buy them at a store otherwise.

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

GeneralShowzer

it's no use man. rental services and the used games market have all of a sudden become an evil scurge on the industry, much worse than piracy.

i agree, i just don't think it's as bad as the interwebs or these corporate shills would like you to believe, it has more to do with greed. you're mostly seeing big namepublishers like EA doing this, you don't see devs like valve hopping on this bandwagon. if you make a good game it will sell. plus, like others have mentioned rental services pay some sort of royalties to rent their games out.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"] No it's not. Rental services have existed since home consoles existed and it's been fine so far. Not to mention they still make money because Redbox has to buy those games themselves. And then there's also a discrepancy of consumers between people who would purchase and those that wouldn't, because a lot of people who choose to rent games are renting them because they wouldn't buy them at a store otherwise.

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

GeneralShowzer

it's no use man. rental services and the used games market have all of a sudden become an evil scurge on the industry, much worse than piracy.

...but they sure love throwing gamestop exclusive DLC for buying from them. that makes alot of sense huh? seeing as gamestop is supposedly killing their industry and all.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Yes, it is. That's why we see more and more developers putting the main focus on MP and social features. People will just pay 2$ and be done with it. How much money do you think developers will rake in on 2$ play-trough..Even if the percentage is something like 30%.. Look at this thread..What's wrong with Infamous 2 ? It's easily 25+ hours with side quests, and it has replayability. It has great review scores. I own the game myself and I think it's great. So why didn't people buy it..There is no reason not to buy it. GeneralShowzer

He played trough a just released game for 2$... I don't know how rentals really work, never really used them.Maybe some renting services are good for the publishers. But this isn't good. It will just kill SP gaming more rapidly.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

it's no use man. rental services and the used games market have all of a sudden become an evil scurge on the industry, much worse than piracy.

lazerface216

i agree, i just don't think it's as bad as the interwebs or these corporate shills would like you to believe, it has more to do with greed. you're mostly seeing big namepublishers like EA doing this, you don't see devs like valve hopping on this bandwagon. if you make a good game it will sell. plus, like others have mentioned rental services pay some sort of royalties to rent their games out.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"] Do you know he would have bought it if rental wasn't an option? We don't, so we can't make the assumption that the publisher is losing money on it. Right now, it's a gain. Just imagine if all those rental services disappeared, would publishers really make more money? I'd imagine they'd lose money, because those services aren't paying for copies of games to shipped to them nor are they paying royalties, and the people who use rental over purchase just won't spend a dime on the game at all.enterawesome

He played trough a just released game for 2$... I don't know how rentals really work, never really used them.Maybe some renting services are good for the publishers. But this isn't good. It will just kill SP gaming more rapidly.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Stuff like this is killing off developers.GeneralShowzer

For instance, I rented Medal of Honor 2010 (horrible game) at Blockbuster to try the game out and kill time. I NEVER would have spent $60 on it, but renting it gave money to Blockbuster, who in turn was encouraged by my and others' rentals to continue stocking their shelves with video games they purchased, thus giving money to the developers through a rental service.

The sales for Infamous 2 will still probably do well, so in at least Infamous 2's case, I dont see how it would be drastic.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Yes, it is. That's why we see more and more developers putting the main focus on MP and social features. People will just pay 2$ and be done with it. How much money do you think developers will rake in on 2$ play-trough..Even if the percentage is something like 30%.. Look at this thread..What's wrong with Infamous 2 ? It's easily 25+ hours with side quests, and it has replayability. It has great review scores. I own the game myself and I think it's great. So why didn't people buy it..There is no reason not to buy it. GeneralShowzer

He played trough a just released game for 2$... I don't know how rentals really work, never really used them.Maybe some renting services are good for the publishers. But this isn't good. It will just kill SP gaming more rapidly.

you've never rented a game before? i know blockbuster and hollywood video are a thing of the past but i've never met anyone who's never ever rented a game before. i mean, even when you were a kid? i don't know how old you are but i find that hard to believe.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

He played trough a just released game for 2$... I don't know how rentals really work, never really used them.Maybe some renting services are good for the publishers. But this isn't good. It will just kill SP gaming more rapidly.

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] And why do you think developers enforce online passes, or free DLC with new copies. They are fed up with not seeing a cent of their money, while Gamestop takes it all. It's obviosly hurting them since they are trying so hard to avoid it.GeneralShowzer

i agree, i just don't think it's as bad as the interwebs or these corporate shills would like you to believe, it has more to do with greed. you're mostly seeing big namepublishers like EA doing this, you don't see devs like valve hopping on this bandwagon. if you make a good game it will sell. plus, like others have mentioned rental services pay some sort of royalties to rent their games out.

that's one single example that a poster here mentioned. you think everyone who rents a game is going to beat it in one day? and if they rented it, hated it and sent it back a day later then i would consider that good thing for the average gamer not to waste $40-60 on a game they absolutely didn't like.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="enterawesome"] Why would it kill single player gaming? Sony made money off of this exchange either way.enterawesome

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Because they already have a big problem with PC piracy. This is just the icing on the cake. Most PC gamers would pirate them...most console gamers would pay a dollar for them. Unless you're focused on MP or 40+ hours of sandbox, they're screwed.GeneralShowzer

Because they already have a big problem with PC piracy. This is just the icing on the cake. Most PC gamers would pirate them...most console gamers would pay a dollar for them. Unless you're focused on MP or 40+ hours of sandbox, they're screwed.GeneralShowzer

OK, so in this thread even though developers and publishers say how used games and rentals are bad for them, still people here are convincing themselves that somehow they are helping the industry and bringing massive profit to it. You can do what you like guys, but you're arguments are going against the ones of the developers. It's hurting the industry, bad, end of story.GeneralShowzer

OK, so in this thread even though developers and publishers say how used games and rentals are bad for them, still people here are convincing themselves that somehow they are helping the industry and bringing massive profit to it. You can do what you like guys, but you're arguments are going against the ones of the developers. It's hurting the industry, bad, end of story.GeneralShowzer

EDIT: Changed "hell" to "heck". My primitive tongue slipped again, apolagies to all.

OK, so in this thread even though developers and publishers say how used games and rentals are bad for them, still people here are convincing themselves that somehow they are helping the industry and bringing massive profit to it. You can do what you like guys, but you're arguments are going against the ones of the developers. It's hurting the industry, bad, end of story.GeneralShowzer

what devs have actually come out and said that? and i never said that it's "helping" the industry, i just don't think it's "hurting" the industry as much as these big name publishers or the internetz would like you to believe.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]OK, so in this thread even though developers and publishers say how used games and rentals are bad for them, still people here are convincing themselves that somehow they are helping the industry and bringing massive profit to it. You can do what you like guys, but you're arguments are going against the ones of the developers. It's hurting the industry, bad, end of story.enterawesome

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]OK, so in this thread even though developers and publishers say how used games and rentals are bad for them, still people here are convincing themselves that somehow they are helping the industry and bringing massive profit to it. You can do what you like guys, but you're arguments are going against the ones of the developers. It's hurting the industry, bad, end of story.GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]OK, so in this thread even though developers and publishers say how used games and rentals are bad for them, still people here are convincing themselves that somehow they are helping the industry and bringing massive profit to it. You can do what you like guys, but you're arguments are going against the ones of the developers. It's hurting the industry, bad, end of story.lazerface216

what devs have actually come out and said that? and i never said that it's "helping" the industry, i just don't think it's "hurting" the industry as much as these big name publishers or the internetz would like you to believe.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="enterawesome"] What the hell are you talking about? WHAT PUBLISHERS COMPLAIN ABOUT RENTAL SERVICES? You know who? Nobody, not until you can pull some evidence supporting that. In fact, I don't think there is any. Why don't you think long and hard about why publishers would allow their games to be distributed on rental services if they're taking losses, then get back to us.enterawesome

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