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#1 MayorJohnny
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How could the sales of Little Big Planet be a disappointment? In America alone, it sold over 600,000 units in a little over two months. That's impressive for a NEW family friendly IP!

In comparison, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts sold less than 150,000 units in America. While it wasn't in stores as long, I still think that it's a little weak. It's possibly a combination of it not being a true 3D platformer, and because I think that the Xbox 360 market is over saturated with other genres that get over advertised.

Anyway, I haven't played Little Big Planet yet. I'd like to though, it has an innate warmth about it, and that main theme music is just so cool. I bought my first PSP last week (the PSP 3000), so hopefully the rumors of a Little Big Planet for the PSP will be accurate. I think that a good name for the PSP version would be BIG Little Planet. :D

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#2 Chutebox
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Sales aren't a disappointment. They're quite good and I think will grow steadily.
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#3 VideoGameGuy
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disappointing as a "system seller" as Sony was touting it to be.
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#4 Vanadium2k8
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You should've seen the pre-hype. But yeah, you can't really say all cows said that LBP will sell 5 million, but many did.
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The sales weren't spectactular, but they were ok.
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How could the sales of Little Big Planet be a disappointment? In America alone, it sold over 600,000 units in a little over two months. That's impressive for a NEW family friendly IP!

In comparison, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts sold less than 150,000 units in America last year. While it wasn't in stores as long, I still think that it's a little weak. It's possibly a combination of it not being a true 3D platformer, and because I think that the Xbox 360 market is over saturated with other genres that get over advertised.

Anyway, I haven't played Little Big Planet yet. I'd like to though, it has an innate warmth about it, and that main theme music is just so cool. I bought my first PSP last week (the PSP 3000), so hopefully the rumors of a Little Big Planet for the PSP will be accurate. I think that a good name for the PSP version would be BIG Little Planet. :D

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I think you're trying to make LBP's sales look better and B&K's look worse by how you worded it. You acknowledged that B&K was out a shorter amount of time yet you referred to its sales as "Last year" where as you referred to LBP's as "in a little over two months".. Not that I'm saying that LBP's sales are a flop or anything, merely pointing out that you are phrasing it as if you are trying to confuse your readers, and its very fanboyish way of saying what you said.
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#7 dragonpuppy
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600k is great for a new IP. What you're talking about is just fanboys being fanboys. Small group of fanboys A claim a game will sell millions. It sells decent but not millions. Small group of fanboys B make thread after thread about the ownage. It is all pretty typical on SW. Don't let it get to you.
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#8 MayorJohnny
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

How could the sales of Little Big Planet be a disappointment? In America alone, it sold over 600,000 units in a little over two months. That's impressive for a NEW family friendly IP!

In comparison, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts sold less than 150,000 units in America last year. While it wasn't in stores as long, I still think that it's a little weak. It's possibly a combination of it not being a true 3D platformer, and because I think that the Xbox 360 market is over saturated with other genres that get over advertised.

Anyway, I haven't played Little Big Planet yet. I'd like to though, it has an innate warmth about it, and that main theme music is just so cool. I bought my first PSP last week (the PSP 3000), so hopefully the rumors of a Little Big Planet for the PSP will be accurate. I think that a good name for the PSP version would be BIG Little Planet. :D

I think you're trying to make LBP's sales look better and B&K's look worse by how you worded it. You acknowledged that B&K was out a shorter amount of time yet you referred to its sales as "Last year" where as you referred to LBP's as "in a little over two months".. Not that I'm saying that LBP's sales are a flop or anything, merely pointing out that you are phrasing it as if you are trying to confuse your readers, and its very fanboyish way of saying what you said.

Fanboyish? I did note that the game wasn't out as long. You can agree that the sales for Banjo Kazooie are a little weak? The platform genre is my favorite, and I want these games to succeed.
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600k is great for a new IP. What you're talking about is just fanboys being fanboys. Small group of fanboys A claim a game will sell millions. It sells decent but not millions. Small group of fanboys B make thread after thread about the ownage. It is all pretty typical on SW. Don't let it get to you.dragonpuppy
As is the case usually in SW, the minority is the most vocal and make the rest look bad.
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[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

How could the sales of Little Big Planet be a disappointment? In America alone, it sold over 600,000 units in a little over two months. That's impressive for a NEW family friendly IP!

In comparison, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts sold less than 150,000 units in America last year. While it wasn't in stores as long, I still think that it's a little weak. It's possibly a combination of it not being a true 3D platformer, and because I think that the Xbox 360 market is over saturated with other genres that get over advertised.

Anyway, I haven't played Little Big Planet yet. I'd like to though, it has an innate warmth about it, and that main theme music is just so cool. I bought my first PSP last week (the PSP 3000), so hopefully the rumors of a Little Big Planet for the PSP will be accurate. I think that a good name for the PSP version would be BIG Little Planet. :D

I think you're trying to make LBP's sales look better and B&K's look worse by how you worded it. You acknowledged that B&K was out a shorter amount of time yet you referred to its sales as "Last year" where as you referred to LBP's as "in a little over two months".. Not that I'm saying that LBP's sales are a flop or anything, merely pointing out that you are phrasing it as if you are trying to confuse your readers, and its very fanboyish way of saying what you said.

Fanboyish? I did note that the game wasn't out as long. You can agree that the sales for Banjo Kazooie are a little weak? The platform genre is my favorite, and I want these games to succeed.

I agree with what you said completely. I'm just saying the way you said it sounded as if you were trying to persuade me on something the numbers did easily for themselves. 600k in little over 2 months vs. 150k in less than 2 months would sound better than 600k in little over 2 months vs. 150k last year.
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#11 JB730
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for a game that is supposed to be starring a so-called "gaming icon", the sales are downright atrocious

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#13 EliteKitteh
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It's at 2 million worldwide and it's outselling Fable 2 and Fallout 3 (among other games) weekly now. I'd say it's done damn well.
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#14 0bscurity
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LBP sales should be better, not because of pre-release hype, but because it's such a unique and great game to play. I've yet to play a 4 player co-op game that was as fun as LBP.
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LBP sales are good for a new IP period. I do think the game should've sold more considering how good it is but gmers would rather play more shooters it seems so whatever.
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#16 VideoGameGuy
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LBP sales are good for a new IP period. I do think the game should've sold more considering how good it is but gmers would rather play more shooters it seems so whatever.Flamestos
i hated the controls..
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[QUOTE="Flamestos"]LBP sales are good for a new IP period. I do think the game should've sold more considering how good it is but gmers would rather play more shooters it seems so whatever.VideoGameGuy
i hated the controls..

LBP isn't the best game ever made the platforming could definitely use some work which hopefully MM will fix in Little Big Planet 2. The complete package however is excellent IMO of course.
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#18 VideoGameGuy
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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="Flamestos"]LBP sales are good for a new IP period. I do think the game should've sold more considering how good it is but gmers would rather play more shooters it seems so whatever.Flamestos
i hated the controls..

LBP isn't the best game ever made the platforming could definitely use some work which hopefully MM will fix in Little Big Planet 2. The complete package however is excellent IMO of course.

I agree it is a great game, i just have a hard time playing it sometimes lol.
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#19 jmdude
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it has sold 2M so far worldwide. not really a dissapointment, although it would have sold more if sony worked with the ad campaign.
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#20 Floppy_Jim
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Banjo Kazooie sold horribly considering 360 owners are supposed to buy games and the fact that there are twice as many 360's in NA as the PS3. And it's not a new IP unlike LBP, I wonder why it sold so poorly. Good for LBP though, it's at 1.5 million *worldwide*. On a console with supposedly horrible software sales.
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#21 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Pre-hype. It was supposed to be the next OMG super dooper mega hyper System seller. Now, in the real world, it sold very well, especially if we consider it is a new IP.
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#22 coltsfan4ever
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Lbp is a great game. The sales for it so far are pretty good. And the levels some people have made for the game are truly great. Im very surprised by how pathetic Banjo's sales were. I heard so many xbox fans saying they couldnt wait for this game and then hardly nobody bought it.smh
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#23 Nomad0404
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3 years in the making more hype than Halo 3.

It was supposed to sell PS3s in great numbers with huge uptake but it hasn't I bet behind closed doors Sony executives are really disapointed by it's sales so far.

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#24 yoyo462001
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for a new ip yh it sold alrite, but little big planet was suppose to be Sony' system seller of 2008, was suppose to make them finally come out on top so it needed a massive sales, so by this yes LBP was a failure for Sony.
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#25 Chutebox
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3 years in the making more hype than Halo 3.

It was supposed to sell PS3s in great numbers with huge uptake but it hasn't I bet behind closed doors Sony executives are really disapointed by it's sales so far.

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Nomad0404

Only way I can see people come to this mindset is if they believe GS = the world.

Just because people make those remarks and hype its sales to high heaven doesn't mean other's in the world feel the same way.

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#26 killerfist
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more hype than Halo 3.Nomad0404
Not even close
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#27 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Nomad0404"]

3 years in the making more hype than Halo 3.

It was supposed to sell PS3s in great numbers with huge uptake but it hasn't I bet behind closed doors Sony executives are really disapointed by it's sales so far.

Phil

Chutebox

Only way I can see people come to this mindset is if they believe GS = the world.

Just because people make those remarks and hype its sales to high heaven doesn't mean other's in the world feel the same way.



I don't want to flame, but the hype of LBP's sales was not limited to GS forums only.

Gametrailers hyped it.

EGM hyped.

Games TM hyped it.

There was a lot of hype for LBP being Sony's next system seller.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Nomad0404"]

3 years in the making more hype than Halo 3.

It was supposed to sell PS3s in great numbers with huge uptake but it hasn't I bet behind closed doors Sony executives are really disapointed by it's sales so far.

Phil

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Only way I can see people come to this mindset is if they believe GS = the world.

Just because people make those remarks and hype its sales to high heaven doesn't mean other's in the world feel the same way.

I don't want to flame, but the hype of LBP's sales was not limited to GS only. Gametrailers hyped it. EGM hyped. Games TM hyped it. There was a lot of hype for LBP being Sony's next system seller.

yeah, the hype was pretty big...but Halo 3 big? nah..
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not saying it's reliable, but it's at 2 million sold at vgchartz.
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#30 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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but Halo 3 big? nah..killerfist
Nope, definitely not.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Nomad0404"]

3 years in the making more hype than Halo 3.

It was supposed to sell PS3s in great numbers with huge uptake but it hasn't I bet behind closed doors Sony executives are really disapointed by it's sales so far.

Phil

IronBass

Only way I can see people come to this mindset is if they believe GS = the world.

Just because people make those remarks and hype its sales to high heaven doesn't mean other's in the world feel the same way.



I don't want to flame, but the hype of LBP's sales was not limited to GS forums only.

Gametrailers hyped it.

EGM hyped.

Games TM hyped it.

There was a lot of hype for LBP being Sony's next system seller.

Lol, you're not flaming at all bud. I know there was hype, but not the degree that would be a huge console selling game. You saw the "hardcores" or whatever you want to call them on internet sites, but that's it.
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Banjo Kazooie sold horribly considering 360 owners are supposed to buy games and the fact that there are twice as many 360's in NA as the PS3. And it's not a new IP unlike LBP, I wonder why it sold so poorly. Good for LBP though, it's at 1.5 million *worldwide*. On a console with supposedly horrible software sales.Floppy_Jim

I think the reason that Banjo sold/sells 'poorly' is a combination of bad marketing, bad release timing (around the time geow2 was released IIRC) and old Banjo fans dissapointed with the direction they took.

OT: I can't understand the way some people think, since when is selling over 1,5 mil not good enough for a new IP?

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Almost 2 million WW, and it's a failure? Why? :| It seems these days, if a game doesn't sell 4 million day one, it's a waste of time... Good game Lemmings :|
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Banjo Kazooie sold horribly considering 360 owners are supposed to buy games and the fact that there are twice as many 360's in NA as the PS3. And it's not a new IP unlike LBP, I wonder why it sold so poorly. Good for LBP though, it's at 1.5 million *worldwide*. On a console with supposedly horrible software sales.Floppy_Jim
Yep. Microsoft should have done a better job marketing Banjo Kazooie.
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#35 clembo1990
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wii sports was a new family IP and it sold more than the PS3 console has
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#36 ps3_owns_360Wii
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they were good enough to get a sequel
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#37 SpruceCaboose
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It did respectable, but I thought it could have sold more with better marketing, and I think the game deserved more sales.
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New free costumes every week. Sweet premium content. Fun as heck single player. Continuous stream of content to play. And now I'm making a level myself. LBP was the best investment.
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#39 Bread_or_Decide
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wii sports was a new family IP and it sold more than the PS3 console hasclembo1990
Not fair when the game COMES WITH THE CONSOLE in America. The sales in Japan are ridiculous though. Can't believe that garbage sold so well. I hate that game so much.
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#40 Bread_or_Decide
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The Problem with system wars is that... ...the only good games are AAA. ...sale somehow equals quality. ....Crap that sells > An actual good game that doesn't sell. ....no game is allowed to sell less than 5 million copies or it's a flop.
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The sales are pretty good considering the lack of advertising Sony did/has done for the game. Most people out there haven't a clue about LBP.
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#42 PoppaGamer
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Nomad0404"]

3 years in the making more hype than Halo 3.

It was supposed to sell PS3s in great numbers with huge uptake but it hasn't I bet behind closed doors Sony executives are really disapointed by it's sales so far.

Phil

IronBass

Only way I can see people come to this mindset is if they believe GS = the world.

Just because people make those remarks and hype its sales to high heaven doesn't mean other's in the world feel the same way.



I don't want to flame, but the hype of LBP's sales was not limited to GS forums only.

Gametrailers hyped it.

EGM hyped.

Games TM hyped it.

There was a lot of hype for LBP being Sony's next system seller.

LBP is a system seller. The problem is, as others have pointed out, Sony didn't advertise for it.

Casuals push sales. And LBP is right up the casual alley (along with giving hardcores great fun).

It isn't because the game ended up to be less of a game than people thought. It was the lack of advertising that didn't allow it to get in front of people's eyes to get them excited about. Again, failure of marketing, not of the game itself.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Only way I can see people come to this mindset is if they believe GS = the world.

Just because people make those remarks and hype its sales to high heaven doesn't mean other's in the world feel the same way.

PoppaGamer



I don't want to flame, but the hype of LBP's sales was not limited to GS forums only.

Gametrailers hyped it.

EGM hyped.

Games TM hyped it.

There was a lot of hype for LBP being Sony's next system seller.

LBP is a system seller. The problem is, as others have pointed out, Sony didn't advertise for it.

Casuals push sales. And LBP is right up the casual alley (along with giving hardcores great fun).

It isn't because the game ended up to be less of a game than people thought. It was the lack of advertising that didn't allow it to get in front of people's eyes to get them excited about. Again, failure of marketing, not of the game itself.

im actually starting to seemore and more ads on adult swim of all programs for LBP, heck even spike, cartoon network (proper) and comedy central ive seen runs ADs but its just started to pick up steaM
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#44 Bread_or_Decide
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Sony can't afford to put that much money into marketing. Sales from the core owners has to be enough for now and of course word of mouth.
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#45 yoyo462001
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Sony can't afford to put that much money into marketing. Sales from the core owners has to be enough for now and of course word of mouth. Bread_or_Decide
sorry i really dont buy that word of mouth stuff, any dev could come out with that to justify mediocre sales, i dont see EA saying word of mouth is going to push dead space sales because its not, LBP had its chance and it blew (were most likely not going to see it in top 10 sales ever again) it now K2 has its chance hopefully Sony dont make that same mistake.
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[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

How could the sales of Little Big Planet be a disappointment? In America alone, it sold over 600,000 units in a little over two months. That's impressive for a NEW family friendly IP!

In comparison, Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts sold less than 150,000 units in America. While it wasn't in stores as long, I still think that it's a little weak. It's possibly a combination of it not being a true 3D platformer, and because I think that the Xbox 360 market is over saturated with other genres that get over advertised.

Anyway, I haven't played Little Big Planet yet. I'd like to though, it has an innate warmth about it, and that main theme music is just so cool. I bought my first PSP last week (the PSP 3000), so hopefully the rumors of a Little Big Planet for the PSP will be accurate. I think that a good name for the PSP version would be BIG Little Planet. :D

Very impressive....
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#47 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Sony can't afford to put that much money into marketing. Sales from the core owners has to be enough for now and of course word of mouth. yoyo462001
sorry i really dont buy that word of mouth stuff, any dev could come out with that to justify mediocre sales, i dont see EA saying word of mouth is going to push dead space sales because its not, LBP had its chance and it blew (were most likely not going to see it in top 10 sales ever again) it now K2 has its chance hopefully Sony dont make that same mistake.

They'll be spending 2million pounds on an ad campaign for KZ2, if it doesnt sell then i think the world is doomed.
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The sales are good, not fantastic, but good.
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#49 Javy03
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The sales are good, not fantastic, but good.carljohnson3456
I don't know maybe its just me but good sales for a game are usually 1-1.4 million within its lifetime. Most games don't make that much, but for a game to be almost 2 million and growing just after a few months with constant updates driving constant sales, its a new IP focusing on a new Genre, is pretty fantastic to me. I mean well known franchises like COD or Madden pull numbers like that on a single console within the same amount of time and they are well established franchises. Obviously their numbers are bigger because they are multiplat but nobody would ever bash their sales. Oh and by the way if I find out Ellen Page is missing I know whose basement to look in too, lol.
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You see, there was a new IP released this Gen called Gears of War. It sold like 5-6 million units. Well, certain people here seem to have it implanted in their mind that if games don't sell like that they're "Teh Sell Flopz."