Reggie Explains Why Wii U Largest Built-In Storage Solution Is 32GB

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#101 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="campzor"] and 3rd party support.

and it feeds the homeless.

and it has backwa.... Oh wait.

Good to know you buying next gen console to play current gen games.
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#102 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Infinite_Access"] and it feeds the homeless.

and it has backwa.... Oh wait.

Good to know you buying next gen console to play current gen games.

Gotta play something when the "new system drought" comes.
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#103 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] and it has backwa.... Oh wait.

Good to know you buying next gen console to play current gen games.

Gotta play something when the "new system drought" comes.

Ooooh that's why the Wii U is fully BC, i see, i see :P
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#104 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] Good to know you buying next gen console to play current gen games.

Gotta play something when the "new system drought" comes.

Ooooh that's why the Wii U is fully BC, i see, i see :P

Now you're starting to understand ;)
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#105 p3anut
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32gb is good enough just for virtual console games. And who doesn't have spare external HH already? I don't have a problem with any of this.

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#106 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]ps4 is $100 dollars more and comes with 468gb morecampzor
And waaay stronger hardware.

and 3rd party support.

And Free games.
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#107 sandbox3d
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Sounds about right, I also had to upgrade my PS3 HDD.  I would much rather pay the lower initial price for the smaller HDD and then choose my own later.

I'm sure SW has spun this in a ridiculously negative light, but I agree with the guy.

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#108 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]It seems like people want free memory. because if Nintendo added $50 of memory, people would still be raging,rjdofu
$50 = 320gb, nobody would rage.

It's still got the Wii U GamePad and inferior hardware. Of course they will.

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#109 emgesp
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]ps4 is $100 dollars more and comes with 468gb morecampzor
And waaay stronger hardware.

and 3rd party support.

Burn, Burn and Burn. Nintendo really believes Mario and Zelda will save them. I don't think that is enough anymore.
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#110 haziqonfire
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In a day where you can get a 2TB HDD for like $60-$80, this really is a non-issue.
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#111 DOADS87
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Ok so then why does the console cost 350? lmfao.

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Exactly! 

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#112 hiphops_savior
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In a day where you can get a 2TB HDD for like $60-$80, this really is a non-issue. Haziqonfire
According to complainers, they rather have a bigger console and have to replace a hard drive with a screwdriver than just plug in an external.
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#113 musalala
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I am Ok with this I would rather buy and external hardrive of my own choosing than be forced to by propietry hard-drives as they tend to be hella expensive

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#114 campzor
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]In a day where you can get a 2TB HDD for like $60-$80, this really is a non-issue. hiphops_savior
According to complainers, they rather have a bigger console and have to replace a hard drive with a screwdriver than just plug in an external.

why would you need to replace it if its huge enough.
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#115 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]In a day where you can get a 2TB HDD for like $60-$80, this really is a non-issue. hiphops_savior
According to complainers, they rather have a bigger console and have to replace a hard drive with a screwdriver than just plug in an external.

The issue is that wii-u is more expensive than both last gen consoles but has anywhere from an 1/8 to a 1/16 of the on-board storage space as its last gen competitors offer. If the wii-u was appropriately priced for what it actually offered( > $200), then very few people would complain. But if you're going to price you hardware at  a certain rate, you better equip that hardware with the expected features. 

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#116 shellcase86
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No. That is not a consumer-friendly approach. It's anti-consumer and causes more problems than what they propose. It saves consumers money? Then why is this piece of hardware with oh-so-little memory retailing for such a high price?

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#117 no-scope-AK47
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No. That is not a consumer-friendly approach. It's anti-consumer and causes more problems than what they propose. It saves consumers money? Then why is this piece of hardware with oh-so-little memory retailing for such a high price?

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They sell a console with no memory for 300 and one with only 32gb for 350. Then say if you want more memory you can buy a external hard drive. That would then make the wii u cost the same or more than the ps4. Now to a fanboi or casual idiot gamer this sounds logical but to a real gamer this is a major rip off.

Why would I spend more money just so I could spend more money to down load games online from nintendo ??

Why for 350 does the wii u NOT have a hard drive built in 2013 ??

This is the type of dumb shit I have come to expect from nintendo. They always cut corners and then say this is not needed for a game console but won't cut the price. When nobody buys their console they then cut the price and say maro and zelda. Sorry nintendo that don't work any more. This is not 1997 this is 2013 the kids that had the n64 are men and women now. Clearly our needs and taste have changed in the almost 15 years we have been gaming but nintendo has NOT. All us old school gamers would love to support nintendo but when there is a vastly better console around the same price point it is hard to stay with nintendo.

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#118 SaltyMeatballs
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With the price of HDD's these days 32GB internal storage is a f*cking joke for a "next gen" system, nothing will change that.

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#119 masterninja9
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Do you people stop and think why would they would go with flash memory in the first place?

32GB SD card - $20

250GB HDD - $35

Nintendo may be cheap, but they can pay $15 more for 218GB. So it can't be the cost difference.

 

The less moving parts, the lower the failure rate. Also, flash memory is pretty fast. 

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#120 thedude-
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Reggie's logic would be more sensible if all storage solutions were created equal. However and internal drive is going to perform much better than an external drive.

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#121 BPoole96
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Nintendo are just a bunch of cheapasses, and instead of delivering a powerful system to usher in the next gen of gaming, they gave us a 7th gen tablet controller with a gimmicky tablet controller that nobody ever asked for. I cannot even fathom having a games console that has less storage than my cell phone.

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#122 percech
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Nintendo are just a bunch of cheapasses, and instead of delivering a powerful system to usher in the next gen of gaming, they gave us a 7th gen tablet controller with a gimmicky tablet controller that nobody ever asked for. I cannot even fathom having a games console that has less storage than my cell phone.

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To be fair a powerful Nintendo system doesn't usually sell.
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#123 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Nintendo are just a bunch of cheapasses, and instead of delivering a powerful system to usher in the next gen of gaming, they gave us a 7th gen tablet controller with a gimmicky tablet controller that nobody ever asked for. I cannot even fathom having a games console that has less storage than my cell phone.

percech

To be fair a powerful Nintendo system doesn't usually sell.

That's because they never have the library to back them up. Every Nintendo console gets its handful of awesome Nintendo exclusives and maybe a bone thrown from a third party here and there, but for the most part they get slaughtered in terms of games by competitors. Look at the the N64, it had 387 total games in it's library. In comparison, their main competitor, the PS1, had 2,418.

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#124 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Nintendo are just a bunch of cheapasses, and instead of delivering a powerful system to usher in the next gen of gaming, they gave us a 7th gen tablet controller with a gimmicky tablet controller that nobody ever asked for. I cannot even fathom having a games console that has less storage than my cell phone.

BPoole96

To be fair a powerful Nintendo system doesn't usually sell.

That's because they never have the library to back them up. Every Nintendo console gets its handful of awesome Nintendo exclusives and maybe a bone thrown from a third party here and there, but for the most part they get slaughtered in terms of games by competitors. Look at the the N64, it had 387 total games in it's library. In comparison, their main competitor, the PS1, had 2,418.

Nintendo makes consoles based around what it wants for it's 1st party devs but the bulk of the gaming market is made up of 3rd party games. So it is no wonder nintendo platforms have almost no 3rd party support and get killed in game selection vs other consoles.

 

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#125 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="percech"] To be fair a powerful Nintendo system doesn't usually sell. no-scope-AK47

That's because they never have the library to back them up. Every Nintendo console gets its handful of awesome Nintendo exclusives and maybe a bone thrown from a third party here and there, but for the most part they get slaughtered in terms of games by competitors. Look at the the N64, it had 387 total games in it's library. In comparison, their main competitor, the PS1, had 2,418.

Nintendo makes consoles based around what it wants for it's 1st party devs but the bulk of the gaming market is made up of 3rd party games. So it is no wonder nintendo platforms have almost no 3rd party support and get killed in game selection vs other consoles.

 

Yep, and for some reason Nintendo feels that they do not need to change and continue having these long droughts of no games and miss out on literally every major third party release.
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#126 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

That's because they never have the library to back them up. Every Nintendo console gets its handful of awesome Nintendo exclusives and maybe a bone thrown from a third party here and there, but for the most part they get slaughtered in terms of games by competitors. Look at the the N64, it had 387 total games in it's library. In comparison, their main competitor, the PS1, had 2,418.

BPoole96

Nintendo makes consoles based around what it wants for it's 1st party devs but the bulk of the gaming market is made up of 3rd party games. So it is no wonder nintendo platforms have almost no 3rd party support and get killed in game selection vs other consoles.

 

Yep, and for some reason Nintendo feels that they do not need to change and continue having these long droughts of no games and miss out on literally every major third party release.

Well nintendo is always been about selling consoles to sell 1st party games that do the numbers and could care less it seems if the other games sell.

You buy a nintendo platform to play a couple of good games and then the system becomes a dust bunny. Here I have a ps3 and have all the 3rd party games and some great 1st party games. I can game online and use it as a cheap media hub. I got psn+ and have over 60 games plus themes and advatars ect for 50 bucks a year. I even get discounts on regular games and cloud game saves ect.

I would have to be a idiot to leave sony who supports their systems for at least 8-10 years to go to nintendo for almost the same money.  Don't even get me started on pc gaming vs console gaming.

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#127 Bread_or_Decide
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Real answer: "Its cheaper for us Nintendo. And we are good at being cheap."
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#128 masterninja9
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Makes me wonder why the Wii U is so "expensive". If it's not the storage or the gamepad (as Gargus told us), what could it possibly be?
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#129 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Nintendo are just a bunch of cheapasses, and instead of delivering a powerful system to usher in the next gen of gaming, they gave us a 7th gen tablet controller with a gimmicky tablet controller that nobody ever asked for. I cannot even fathom having a games console that has less storage than my cell phone.

percech
To be fair a powerful Nintendo system doesn't usually sell.

Every gen Nintendo finds a way to sabotage itself. N64-great graphics, analog stick...cartridge limitation. Gamecube- great graphics...retarded controller...retarded disc format Wii-graphics suck...weird controller Wii U- graphics already dated...
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#130 YearoftheSnake5
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Where the hell have you been? This is old. REALLY old.

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#131 Joedgabe
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Poor reggie.. he's doing such a good job... it's not his fault the higher ups are screwing up and he's eating all the blame.

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#132 AznbkdX
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I understand the PR reasoning, but being cheap is only cool when you are discreet with it Nintendo. :P

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#133 no-scope-AK47
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Poor reggie.. he's doing such a good job... it's not his fault the higher ups are screwing up and he's eating all the blame.

Joedgabe

Nintendo has over 100 million wii units sold and is not supporting that platform so I can't feel bad for them on the wii u. Reggie also has not been bring over games from japan either.

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#134 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Gamecube- great graphics...retarded controller...retarded disc format

The controller wasn't the problem, the GC controller is undoubtedly one of the best console controllers to date (I'd argue it's the best console controller of the 6th gen). It was the overall presentation of the GameCube: it looked like a children's toy, the name sounded childish, and thus it had a marketing hurdle to overcome when pitted against the Playstation 2 and Xbox.
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#135 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Gamecube- great graphics...retarded controller...retarded disc format

The controller wasn't the problem, the GC controller is undoubtedly one of the best console controllers to date (I'd argue it's the best console controller of the 6th gen). It was the overall presentation of the GameCube: it looked like a children's toy, the name sounded childish, and thus it had a marketing hurdle to overcome when pitted against the Playstation 2 and Xbox.

Made playing fighting games on it all but impossible. That controller was designed to play smash bros. and left other fighting games out to dry.
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#136 masterninja9
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Made playing fighting games on it all but impossible. That controller was designed to play smash bros. and left other fighting games out to dry. Bread_or_Decide
Because this  is so much better with fighters right?
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#137 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"]It seems like people want free memory. because if Nintendo added $50 of memory, people would still be raging,nintendoboy16

$50 = 320gb, nobody would rage.

It's still got the Wii U GamePad and inferior hardware. Of course they will.

That's an entirely different point.
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#138 famicommander
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I like that it has fewer moving parts and I'll never even come close to filling up that 32 GB. Having to spin a hard drive increases heat and the odds that something will break. And he does have a point. The system would be more expensive with a 320 GB or 500 GB hard drive than it is now, and it's still too expensive as-is.
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#140 hiphops_savior
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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

Poor reggie.. he's doing such a good job... it's not his fault the higher ups are screwing up and he's eating all the blame.

no-scope-AK47

Nintendo has over 100 million wii units sold and is not supporting that platform so I can't feel bad for them on the wii u. Reggie also has not been bring over games from japan either.

What part of being a PR mouthpiece do you not understand? We don't know who really didn't want to bring games over from Japan. Having eShop could ease the pain of bringing physical copies over in America by getting niche games digital release.
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#141 Rattlesnake_8
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Yes, hard drives are cheap these days..for PC. The MS and Wii U hard drives are VERY expensive.
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#142 themagicbum9720
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doesnt bother me, if i need more space, i have an old 1tb external hard drive i can use. not a big deal.
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#143 thedude-
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Gamecube- great graphics...retarded controller...retarded disc format

The controller wasn't the problem, the GC controller is undoubtedly one of the best console controllers to date (I'd argue it's the best console controller of the 6th gen). It was the overall presentation of the GameCube: it looked like a children's toy, the name sounded childish, and thus it had a marketing hurdle to overcome when pitted against the Playstation 2 and Xbox.

Thats an easy one to argue... The GC controller lacked an L2, it lacked an R3/L3, and the two hybrid analog triggers/digital buttons were only useful for a handful of games (though very cool when supported, it was an extra step for games that just had regular inputs for the trigger). The controller's wire length was much shorter and the second analog was awkward.
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#144 GunSmith1_basic
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the gc controller hilariously was trying to copy the dualshock 2 while being different, carrying many n64 controller design aspects for no reason other than to avoid admitting that the dualshock was for real.
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#145 Puckhog04
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Makes sense.

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#146 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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Physical media is (should be) dead anyways.  I shouldn't have to buy an external HDD just to keep up with industry trends, especially on a "next gen" console.

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#147 Jonwh18
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Thank you nintengod. :cool:

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#148 Puckhog04
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Physical media is (should be) dead anyways. I shouldn't have to buy an external HDD just to keep up with industry trends, especially on a "next gen" console.

realguitarhero5

I prefer to buy retail copies of games. I'd much rather have physical media own the market than the other way around.

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#149 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Made playing fighting games on it all but impossible. That controller was designed to play smash bros. and left other fighting games out to dry. masterninja9
Because this  is so much better with fighters right?

Not sure what this has to do with the gamecube controller. Yeah the D pad on the 360 also sucks. What's your point? That doesn't make the gamecube controller suck any less.
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#150 Heil68
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What a joke. Time to think about trading in the Wiiu