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#1 carljohnson3456
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"What worries me, if I would focus in on Microsoft, we've always looked at what they've been able to do from an Xbox Live standpoint and we constantly want to say, 'What can we do to be better than Xbox Live?'...It's a little hard [to say something nice about the PS3]...They've got some great games that they've been able to bring out, they've been able to get some fantastic content. But, you know, you look at the results and clearly they've got some challenges."

:lol: Ok Reggie... it's completely obvious they are not even LOOKING at the XBox or PS3 in any sort of way so it's funny to see him act like he actually focuses on the two.

Link, sorry if old, didnt see it on the first two pages.

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#2 Zhengi
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:lol: Ok Reggie. Prove to us first that you can at least have competent online first before you even try to compare to XBL :lol:
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#3 Pinkyimp
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What can you do to be better than XBL?

How about draft god and amiracle worker on your devlopment team.

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#4 carljohnson3456
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:lol: Ok Reggie. Prove to us first that you can at least have competent online first before you even try to compare to XBL :lol:Zhengi
It was just a throw away answer, obviously they dont think about it at all ya know? And he could have said the same thing about the PSN as well... but instead said Sony has some challenges. :lol: This is the same man who said the hardcore gamer was insatiable just last year.
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#5 POJO_MOFO
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LOL, why dont you try being better than the Dreamcast online service first. Baby steps Reggie, baby steps...
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#6 -DrRobotnik-
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Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wow
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I got two words for ya : "Friend Codes"

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"What worries me, if I would focus in on Microsoft, we've always looked at what they've been able to do from an Xbox Live standpoint and we constantly want to say, 'What can we do to be better than Xbox Live?'...It's a little hard [to say something nice about the PS3]...They've got some great games that they've been able to bring out, they've been able to get some fantastic content. But, you know, you look at the results and clearly they've got some challenges."

:lol: Ok Reggie... it's completely obvious they are not even LOOKING at the XBox or PS3 in any sort of way so it's funny to see him act like he actually focuses on the two.

Link, sorry if old, didnt see it on the first two pages.

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First they must become better than PSN.
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#9 Jamani
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]:lol: Ok Reggie. Prove to us first that you can at least have competent online first before you even try to compare to XBL :lol:carljohnson3456
It was just a throw away answer, obviously they dont think about it at all ya know? And he could have said the same thing about the PSN as well... but instead said Sony has some challenges. :lol: This is the same man who said the hardcore gamer was insatiable just last year.

Your jus angry cause the regginator pooped on Sony.
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#10 SolidTy
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LOL, why dont you try being better than the Dreamcast online service first. Baby steps Reggie, baby steps...POJO_MOFO

Exactly.

Consoles ONLINE :

360>>>>PS3>>>>>>>>PS2>>>>>>>>>Dreamcast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii.

It's nice that Reggie wants to do that, but in reality, Nintendo Japan makes the real decisions. NOA did block Fatal Frame 4 from being published in America.

So, I guess Reggie can block Nintendo of Japan's decisions.

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#11 The_Game21x
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Oh dear. :lol:

That kind of effort will require much more than the ass backwards thinking that has powered their online services thus far so good luck with that Nintendo.

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#12 Ratchet_Fan8
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LOL! idk why,but it seems impossible for some lame hand-held (With SHOVELware crap everywhere..altho i can say samething for PSP) and a Console that has CRAP/flop/low-quality games ) thats just impossible,Nintendo doesnt even support DLC (correct me if im wrong) and their online,sux
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#13 haziqonfire
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Step one: No more friend codes. That's a start.
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#14 kemar7856
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lol xbox live...the wii has about the same level as online as my dreamcast did

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]:lol: Ok Reggie. Prove to us first that you can at least have competent online first before you even try to compare to XBL :lol:Jamani
It was just a throw away answer, obviously they dont think about it at all ya know? And he could have said the same thing about the PSN as well... but instead said Sony has some challenges. :lol: This is the same man who said the hardcore gamer was insatiable just last year.

Your jus angry cause the regginator pooped on Sony.

I'm not angry, I think it's a bit absurd. Sony is in a hard financial situation, so that seemed to be the only shot he could take at either of the systems. Except for touting their own sales, of course.

Dont get me wrong, I like Reggie, and I was actually trying to get a Wii just a week ago, lol. I just find it funny when these company big wigs open their mouths and look a little dumber for it. That includes Aaron Greenburg, Kaz Hirai and Reggie.

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#16 FirstDiscovery
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Cool, you know what they say, baby steps Heres what you can do for starters, you know actually HAVE some sort of online service?
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#17 killerfist
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I agree with everyone else. Get rid of the friend codes.
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#18 Cherokee_Jack
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some lame hand-heldRatchet_Fan8
Nintendo has another handheld out besides the DS? Why haven't I heard of this?
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]:lol: Ok Reggie. Prove to us first that you can at least have competent online first before you even try to compare to XBL :lol:Jamani
It was just a throw away answer, obviously they dont think about it at all ya know? And he could have said the same thing about the PSN as well... but instead said Sony has some challenges. :lol: This is the same man who said the hardcore gamer was insatiable just last year.

Your jus angry cause the regginator pooped on Sony.

Comparatively, Nintendo is in no position to be taking shots at anyone concerning online services. Seriously.
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#20 tirralirra
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I dont think it will be that hard to better XBLA.
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#21 iam2green
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they need to make the service better first. from what i have seen from my friend playing is that it is bad. u can't add the person u want to.
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#22 heretrix
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I dont think it will be that hard to better XBLA.tirralirra
If it wasn't hard, it would have happened already.

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#23 hiphops_savior
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They could get rid of Friend Codes, but the problem is, they'll face the same problems that XBL and PSN are facing. Nintendo need a clear policy that hold users accountable for their behaviors to make online an enjoyable experience.
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Anything is possible :P
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#25 kemar7856
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lets see
wii
lag
friend codes fail!
like 3 online games

360
hundreds of titles
fast servers
communication!
friend lists
msn connection
media center
achivements
D/C
market

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#26 mario_brawler
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lets see
wii
lag
friend codes fail!
like 3 online games

360
hundreds of titles
fast servers
communication!
friend lists
msn connection
media center
achivements
D/C
market

kemar7856

3 online games? :o really last time i checked i played MKWii...Brawl ...Animal Crossing and Guitar Hero..

Funny huh?

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[QUOTE="tirralirra"]I dont think it will be that hard to better XBLA.heretrix

If it wasn't hard, it would have happened already.

Not really. Nintendo and Sony just don't have the right people to make an online experience better than XBLA. Besides, PSN isn't that much worse either.
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It is impossible.
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Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wow-DrRobotnik-

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

- psn -

Themes-free

gaming-free

dlc-check (not as much as live but enough for the exclusive games)

dedicated servers- on most 1st party games not third party

more player count- check

-xbox live-

gaming- pay please

party chat- pay please

dlc- they beat psn on this one

themes- pay please

gamer pics- pay please

p2p on most games i think only L4D has dedicated servers

less players- check

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wownjean777

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

- psn -

Themes-free

gaming-free

dlc-check (not as much as live but enough for the exclusive games)

dedicated servers- on most 1st party games not third party

more player count- check

-xbox live-

gaming- pay please

party chat- pay please

dlc- they beat psn on this one

themes- pay please

gamer pics- pay please

p2p on most games i think only L4D has dedicated servers

less players- check

Not all PS3 themes are free. There is no official word that the PSN has more players online. Some themes are free on the 360. Some gamer pics are free. At least they have alot of options. The PSN gamer pics suck. They only have like 50 and they range from Crash Bandicoot to a pine cone to a golden bell. I am not kidding. Not sure about dedicated servers. Less players has not been confirmed.
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#31 Giancar
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lol, and people mock about Sony PR (with reasons of course) but this is just the same...
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[QUOTE="njean777"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wowcarljohnson3456

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

- psn -

Themes-free

gaming-free

dlc-check (not as much as live but enough for the exclusive games)

dedicated servers- on most 1st party games not third party

more player count- check

-xbox live-

gaming- pay please

party chat- pay please

dlc- they beat psn on this one

themes- pay please

gamer pics- pay please

p2p on most games i think only L4D has dedicated servers

less players- check

Not all PS3 themes are free. There is no official word that the PSN has more players online. Some themes are free on the 360. Some gamer pics are free. At least they have alot of options. The PSN gamer pics suck. They only have like 50 and they range from Crash Bandicoot to a pine cone to a golden bell. I am not kidding. Not sure about dedicated servers. Less players has not been confirmed.

umm ok let me restate this all the good ps3 themes are free. if you want to pay for the premium themes go ahead but as almost all people know ps3-themes.net has better themes then all of the premium themes. Why anybody would pay for these is beyond me when you can get them for free and they always look better. plus these are user made themes you can make your own which is a good thing. you can make your own on 360 also but there is no way to get ones made by other people that i know about.

I never said more people online i meant players allowed in a match on the game.

psn gamer pictures are fine for what they are i mean its a useless thing to have anyways

yes all first party games on psn have dedicated servers but most third party does not.

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wownjean777

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

- psn -

Themes-free

gaming-free

dlc-check (not as much as live but enough for the exclusive games)

dedicated servers- on most 1st party games not third party

more player count- check

-xbox live-

gaming- pay please

party chat- pay please

dlc- they beat psn on this one

themes- pay please

gamer pics- pay please

p2p on most games i think only L4D has dedicated servers

less players- check

Though Sony's dedicated server policy is better than XBL, L4D isn't the only game that uses dedicated servers. There are about 5 XBL games that use them. And there rally isn't that many more on PSN. You'd be surprised if you actually count them out, but it's better to spread misinformation. The majority of thier games use the same method as XBL.

Less players is BS. PSN counts all of it's accounts as one. That would be forum users, PSP, PS2 and PS3 users

There are premium gamer pics and themes on PSN and you can make your own gamer pics for the 360. I have never paid a cent for a gamer pic.

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psn gamer pictures are fine for what they are i mean its a useless thing to have anywaysnjean777
It's annoying. I have three Altairs on my friend list, two Lair guys, and a few other hooded guys I'm not even sure what game they are from on my friends list. Where's my GTAIV gamer pics? LBP? MGS4? R2? For as much as they push the PSN you think they might include a new gamer pic here and there. At least let them be downloadable from the PS Store.
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[QUOTE="njean777"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wowheretrix

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

- psn -

Themes-free

gaming-free

dlc-check (not as much as live but enough for the exclusive games)

dedicated servers- on most 1st party games not third party

more player count- check

-xbox live-

gaming- pay please

party chat- pay please

dlc- they beat psn on this one

themes- pay please

gamer pics- pay please

p2p on most games i think only L4D has dedicated servers

less players- check

Though Sony's dedicated server policy is better than XBL, L4D isn't the only game that uses dedicated servers. There are about 5 XBL games that use them. And there rally isn't that many more on PSN. You'd be surprised if you actually count them out, but it's better to spread misinformation. The majority of thier games use the same method as XBL.

Less players is BS. PSN counts all of it's accounts as one. That would be forum users, PSP, PS2 and PS3 users

There are premium gamer pics and themes on PSN and you can make your own gamer pics for the 360. I have never paid a cent for a gamer pic.

if you read what i posted after this then you would have not posted this.

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#36 njean777
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[QUOTE="njean777"]psn gamer pictures are fine for what they are i mean its a useless thing to have anywayscarljohnson3456
It's annoying. I have three Altairs on my friend list, two Lair guys, and a few other hooded guys I'm not even sure what game they are from on my friends list. Where's my GTAIV gamer pics? LBP? MGS4? R2? For as much as they push the PSN you think they might include a new gamer pic here and there. At least let them be downloadable from the PS Store.

well its really not a big issue i really dont mind the gamer pics on psn as they are just a little picture. i only care about whos on. They update them very rarely.

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#37 flazzle
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Am I reading the story wrong?

What is all the talk slamming Reggie about this recent statement? He is not saying Wii has anything close to XBOX LIVE. Just the opposite: he is recognizing that XBOXLive is superior and acknowledges this is something Nintendo needs to improve upon.
It's a great compliment to MS, and it's reassuring to know Reggie isn't arrogant enough to say 'Hey, Nintendo is doing just as good as Live.'

If Reggie said the above, then the bashers would have a case.
I'm glad Nintendo acknowledges what has to improve on and has the ability to recognzie something superior by their competitors.

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#38 Dr_Snood
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Friend codes Reggie.. friend codes.
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First they must become better than DS, seriously.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="njean777"]

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

- psn -

Themes-free

gaming-free

dlc-check (not as much as live but enough for the exclusive games)

dedicated servers- on most 1st party games not third party

more player count- check

-xbox live-

gaming- pay please

party chat- pay please

dlc- they beat psn on this one

themes- pay please

gamer pics- pay please

p2p on most games i think only L4D has dedicated servers

less players- check

njean777

Though Sony's dedicated server policy is better than XBL, L4D isn't the only game that uses dedicated servers. There are about 5 XBL games that use them. And there rally isn't that many more on PSN. You'd be surprised if you actually count them out, but it's better to spread misinformation. The majority of thier games use the same method as XBL.

Less players is BS. PSN counts all of it's accounts as one. That would be forum users, PSP, PS2 and PS3 users

There are premium gamer pics and themes on PSN and you can make your own gamer pics for the 360. I have never paid a cent for a gamer pic.

if you read what i posted after this then you would have not posted this.

Either that or my response was typed at the same time and you just happen to post your response first.

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#41 metroidfood
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They've got a ways to go before they even come near XBL.

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wownjean777

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

- psn -

Themes-free

gaming-free

dlc-check (not as much as live but enough for the exclusive games)

dedicated servers- on most 1st party games not third party

more player count- check

-xbox live-

gaming- pay please

party chat- pay please

dlc- they beat psn on this one

themes- pay please

gamer pics- pay please

p2p on most games i think only L4D has dedicated servers

less players- check

How does "pay please" translate it into better :|
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony cant even better XBL and they seem to take online seriously. Nintendo on the other hand....wownjean777

sony does beat xbox live IMO its free and works perfectly. when they implement voice chat xbox live better become free because what are you really paying for then? Leaderboards? hah psn has those to.

PSN being free has nothing to do with the quality of it. The party system is the only thing i think you pay for, not that i use it very much. And maybe some extra DLC stuff, but yeah, £40 is not worth it.

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#44 Jack_Bauer07
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Some nice damage control from Nintendo. Buh buh the Wii has online too ya know! I guess this is supposed to compensate for their lack of games lately.

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Alright reggie, time to go back to the loony bin and go nigh,nigh... he seriously needs to be taken off PR :|
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Ugh, even comparing Nintendo's current method of online to an actually competent service is embarrassing. Friend codes are a truly terrible system.

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#47 Cicatraz_ESP
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Haha, Reggie oh Reggie. I like the unnecassary shot on Sony, when the topic at hand was about online services. PSN is 10 x better than Wii online will ever be.

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#48 heretrix
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Alright reggie, time to go back to the loony bin and go nigh,nigh... he seriously needs to be taken off PR :|darkspineslayer
Reggie hasn't been PR for a couple of years now. He's the President of NOA.

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Haha, it was funny when Geoff asked him about PS3...:lol:

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Ugh, even comparing Nintendo's current method of online to an actually competent service is embarrassing. Friend codes are a truly terrible system.

WAIW

Did you even read the article? "Nintendo looks to see what can be done to be better than Xbox Live..." He wasn't comparing their current with LIVE at all. He is looking at how it's better and what they can do. Obviously if they were stuck on the old system, they wouldn't be looking to improve.