Reggie says Third Parties Dont Get it

[QUOTE="Locke562"][QUOTE="Nirron"]

 

What's the point of putting colorful, artistic games like de Blob, Valkyria Chronicles, and Viva Pinata on a system where only latchkey teenagers with too much adrenaline and moronic frat boys want to kill things?  See, I can play the system stereotype game too!  I do feel dirty now typing something that narrow minded.

I do wonder if Reggie along with the rest of Nintendo have considered, oh, I don't know, reaching out to a few third party developers about using the system?  Perhaps helping them along with concepts?  They have great first party games, and quite a few gems in the third party department, but it could be so much better.

Zhengi

Didn't Viva Pinata Sell 2 Million copies?

On what planet?

I looked it up, It sold 1.61 Million copies. 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2619®ion=All

[QUOTE="Locke562"][QUOTE="Nirron"]

What's the point of putting colorful, artistic games like de Blob, Valkyria Chronicles, and Viva Pinata on a system where only latchkey teenagers with too much adrenaline and moronic frat boys want to kill things? See, I can play the system stereotype game too! I do feel dirty now typing something that narrow minded.

I do wonder if Reggie along with the rest of Nintendo have considered, oh, I don't know, reaching out to a few third party developers about using the system? Perhaps helping them along with concepts? They have great first party games, and quite a few gems in the third party department, but it could be so much better.

Zhengi

Didn't Viva Pinata Sell 2 Million copies?

On what planet?

Earth, I think.

I heard something today which basically awnseres this question.

I was t work today and 2 women were talking, one says "I just got wii fit a few days ago for the wii, its really good and my husband likes it"

And there we have it, middle aged women, thats what nintendos attracting, well they said they were creating a new market.

Middle aged woman... violence...

You just cant put those two things in the same sentence really can you? :|

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Locke562"]

 

 

Didn't Viva Pinata Sell 2 Million copies?

Locke562

On what planet?

I looked it up, It sold 1.61 Million copies. 

Well, it wasn't like I was actually being serious.  I was one of those 1.61 million that bought VP, and loved it.  And it actually proves the point I was trying to make.  Since you didn't include the guy I was quoting, he was stereotyping Wii owners as old people and children so any "mature" game won't sell at all on the system.  The stereotype of frat boy/adrenaline junkie is the 360 (and to an extent, the PS3), yet Viva Pinata managed to sell on the 360.  Stereotypes are bad, m-kay?

 

 

Kratos_OMEGA

Hes starring at me 

make it stop :cry:

Here's something I seriously don't understand. Maybe someone can enlighten me on this...

Ok, Nintendo has ALWAYS released handhelds that are inferior in technology than other handhelds. Yet, 3rd parties have NEVER had a problem with Nintendo's handhelds having inferior technology than other handhelds. 3rd parties have made great games on Gameboy, GBA, Nintendo DS. Nintendo DS is spanking PSP in sales and getting a ton of great games. DS has lesser graphics, lesser tech, etc compared to PSP.

So then...WHY in the world is it such a big issue with 3rd parties that Wii has inferior technology inside it compared to PS3 and 360? Wii is outselling the competition big time, but 3rd party devs still won't take it seriously. They sure took Gameboy, GBA, DS seriously...all with inferior tech. Not so with Wii. It is like a double standard issue. I guess it is fine for Nintendo handhelds to have worse graphics, sound, etc compared to the competition. But apparently it is NOT ok for a Nintendo console to have inferior tech compared to the competition.

So, explain that logic to me. Why is their a double standard? Why is it perfectly fine for DS to be inferior to PSP in tech and devs will take DS very seriously? And why is it so horrible to devs that Wii is inferior in tech to the competition? Makes no sense to me.

AvIdGaMeR444

Because if you actually take a look at the figures nintendo titles sell mint amounts but nothing else 3rd party rarely makes it past the 500k mark in sales on the console, theres no point spending over xxx million on a wii game when you potientially won't get that money back. So its easier to make a xxx million dollar game, double or triple the profit and earn something more then never breaking even.

These 3rd parties understand the console and market, they use the console as fuel for there bigger titles on other platforms which have far greater potiential to bring them in greater amounts of money then prima focussing on a title on a console that doesn't have a stellar record of being 3rd party friendly.

dev's do get it, but whats the point of putting games with violence, and other mature oriented themes on a system where only 80 year old grandpas, and soccermoms play.Fizzman

Instead, all we have is lazy circular reasoning from developers resulting in self fulfilling prophesies. They think nobody will buy their game, so to save money they make a really really bad game for the wii. Then nobody buys it...so developers say, "see! Nintendo fans don't support 3rd party software!"

As a Wii owner, that is BS. I have no choice but to buy only Nintendo software (with rare exception) because 3rd parties are dumping endless piles of crap on the system.

Don't get it or just don't care? They have to compete with Nintendo, not very many developers like doing that.foxhound_fox

They have to compete with them anyway whether or not they make games for the Wii.