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#51 Cherokee_Jack
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"In the end, our competitors need to react to what we're doing in the marketplace and need to figure out what their innovation will be.

They need to react to what we've done and we need to continue innovating with the Wii U and we will." caseypayne69

Nintendo needs to stay the f*ck out other people's business, that's what they need to do.

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#52 super600  Moderator
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Why use zombiu as hype? the game scored a 4.5 at gamespot:o:lol:

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Gamespot is the sole site that fits all people's opinions.:lol:

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#53 killzowned24
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Why use zombiu as hype? the game scored a 4.5 at gamespot:o:lol:

super600

Gamespot is the sole site that fits all people's opinions.:lol:

Gameinformer the biggest US magazine gave it only a half a point more at 50 :cry:

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#54 Timstuff
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The Wii U would have been more successful if they just made the Wii HD and called it the Wii 2.Miketheman83
The problem is that no-one cares about Wii anymore, and the brand has no equity. Despite what a lot of Nintendo fanboys thought, Wii is not like the iPhone-- it's old hat now, and Nintendo failed to keep it fresh or relevant. They failed to distance the Wii U from the Wii, and that is why it's failing.
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#55 Kaze_no_Mirai
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The Wii U would have been more successful if they just made the Wii HD and called it the Wii 2.Timstuff
The problem is that no-one cares about Wii anymore, and the brand has no equity. Despite what a lot of Nintendo fanboys thought, Wii is not like the iPhone-- it's old hat now, and Nintendo failed to keep it fresh or relevant. They failed to distance the Wii U from the Wii, and that is why it's failing.

You really can't be certain of that.
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#56 Epak_
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Getting really excited for UE4 and other next-gen engines, oh the possibilities! Nintendo can still turn heads come E313, they just need to show some next-gen Zelda/Mario/Metroid.

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Same ol Reggie, same ol Nintendo BS.

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#58 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The Wii U would have been more successful if they just made the Wii HD and called it the Wii 2.Kaze_no_Mirai
The problem is that no-one cares about Wii anymore, and the brand has no equity. Despite what a lot of Nintendo fanboys thought, Wii is not like the iPhone-- it's old hat now, and Nintendo failed to keep it fresh or relevant. They failed to distance the Wii U from the Wii, and that is why it's failing.

You really can't be certain of that.

I can't be certain that Nintendo will make another Mario game, either, but it would be pretty surprising if they didn't.

The writing has been on the wall for a while. For a while some people tried watering down the truth as a professional courtesy to Nintendo's sensitive fans, but pretty much everyone in the industry outside of Nintendo has stopped pretending at this point. The Wii U is losing third party support left and right, and that's only going to get worse when the PS4 and Xbox 720 launch. It took months for the initial stock to sell out which is outright embarassing, and there's no hype for the system now that the PS3 and Xbox 720 are right around the corner.

The Wii U is in the same position the Dreamcast was in, except worse in some ways (albiet, Nintendo is not in financial trouble like Sega was, but they are still facing vastly diminished profits due to their recent blunders). The Dreamcast actually had a compelling software lineup at the time it died, but no-one cared because the PS2 was about to come out. The Wii U doesn't even have a decent software library to its name right now, so what is going to save it from the next-gen beasts that are clawing at the door?

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#59 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

And he's right. Sony already copied off-TV play with Vita (when will they learn?) and Microsoft will probably do the same with exclusive Smartglass support for their own tablets.

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Those are just optional add-ons that hardly anyone will use. Nintendo actually built their entire system around it and sacrificed power to do so.

Power won't sell your console
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#60 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/11/reggie_sony_and_microsoft_need_to_react_to_what_nintendo_is_doing_with_wii_u "In the end, our competitors need to react to what we're doing in the marketplace and need to figure out what their innovation will be. It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers. They need to react to what we've done and we need to continue innovating with the Wii U and we will." "For us, launching new systems is about bringing new consumer experiences to the marketplace and we're doing that with Nintendo Land and third-party publishers are doing it with games like ZombiU. For us, now is the right time to launch new hardware." Well fast forward to April 2013 and I think we can at least confirm that Sony said piss off. And I hope Nintendo is looking around and saying maybe just maybe we should have put in a better GPU and more ram.

Better GPU and more RAM would have made the console even more expensive
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"]http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/11/reggie_sony_and_microsoft_need_to_react_to_what_nintendo_is_doing_with_wii_u "In the end, our competitors need to react to what we're doing in the marketplace and need to figure out what their innovation will be. It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers. They need to react to what we've done and we need to continue innovating with the Wii U and we will." "For us, launching new systems is about bringing new consumer experiences to the marketplace and we're doing that with Nintendo Land and third-party publishers are doing it with games like ZombiU. For us, now is the right time to launch new hardware." Well fast forward to April 2013 and I think we can at least confirm that Sony said piss off. And I hope Nintendo is looking around and saying maybe just maybe we should have put in a better GPU and more ram.

Better GPU and more RAM would have made the console even more expensive

Power is what the consumer expects for the upgrade. It's the reason the iPhone and Galaxy have long lines and sell out on the days they launch. You pay the premium for it. Problem is in Nintendo case it did not beef it up. It can play PS3/360 games at a higher resolution once its optimized. That's not a step forward. Game companies spend millions on new graphics engines for next gen and the last thing they want to do is detune their engine for a week console. It's like Ford put out a new improved 5.0 liter V8 with 500 hp. In the Nintendo race revision you can only have 350 HP. Why waste time detuning.
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#62 LegatoSkyheart
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It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers. caseypayne69

That has never been so wrong.

The Graphics Gimmick is indeed high right now.

The Consumers have spoken. They want Pretty Pictures.

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The Wii U is in the same position the Dreamcast was in, except worse in some ways (albiet, Nintendo is not in financial trouble like Sega was, but they are still facing vastly diminished profits due to their recent blunders). The Dreamcast actually had a compelling software lineup at the time it died, but no-one cared because the PS2 was about to come out. The Wii U doesn't even have a decent software library to its name right now, so what is going to save it from the next-gen beasts that are clawing at the door?

Timstuff

That's not true, the Dreamcast broke sale and pre-order records wen it launched, aswell as having the best launch line up ever. The reason why it failed is because SEGA couldn't keep it afloat because of their financial trouble. They were literally bleeding money by the time they released the Dreamcast.

Nintendo just got off the succesful Wii train, the DS is the highest selling gaming system on Earth, and the 3DS is ridiculously succesful selling trough the roof each month and continuously securing quality games. They can sure as f*ck sustain the Wii U up until the next major Zelda, Mario, Smash Bros., come rolling in. Wen these system sellers come rolling in, then we'll see what to make of the WiiU. 

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#64 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

The Wii U is in the same position the Dreamcast was in, except worse in some ways (albiet, Nintendo is not in financial trouble like Sega was, but they are still facing vastly diminished profits due to their recent blunders). The Dreamcast actually had a compelling software lineup at the time it died, but no-one cared because the PS2 was about to come out. The Wii U doesn't even have a decent software library to its name right now, so what is going to save it from the next-gen beasts that are clawing at the door?

Lucianu

That's not true, the Dreamcast broke sale and pre-order records wen it launched, aswell as having the best launch line up ever. The reason why it failed is because SEGA couldn't keep it afloat because of their financial trouble. They were literally bleeding money by the time they released the Dreamcast.

Nintendo just got off the succesful Wii train, the DS is the highest selling gaming system on Earth, and the 3DS is ridiculously succesful selling trough the roof each month and continuously securing quality games. They can sure as f*ck sustain the Wii U up until the next major Zelda, Mario, Smash Bros., come rolling in. Wen these system sellers come rolling in, then we'll see what to make of the WiiU. 

3DS is hardly selling "ridiculously well" as you claim. It is selling well enough to bring in a decent profit, but it is a far cry from the original DS, and let's not forget that before the price drop it was selling like a turd wrapped in foil. Nintendo was expecting a repeat success of the 3DS, and at best they are might be able to get is something more along the lines of the Gameboy Advance (sold at a much lower profit margin, mind you, since Nintendo was not expecting to have to cut the price so early), but that is being generous. The handheld market is not what it used to be, because the adults who bought the DS don't care about it now that they have smartphones, and even the kids are starting to migrate over to tablets.

Nintendo did make a lot of money last gen, but a company that big cannot operate indefinitely without making lots of profits. You would be surprised at how quickly Nintendo's war chest can run dry when they have to pay every employee a salary that can pay for decent housing, their children's education needs, healthcare, corporate taxes, etc., and when investors see the war chest being drained instead of getting their share of a healthy profit that year, they get angry. You invest in a company because you expect to get a share of the profit, after all, and when a company is spending more money than it earns (or is on the edge), that is not something an investor wants to see.

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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"]http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/11/reggie_sony_and_microsoft_need_to_react_to_what_nintendo_is_doing_with_wii_u "In the end, our competitors need to react to what we're doing in the marketplace and need to figure out what their innovation will be. It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers. They need to react to what we've done and we need to continue innovating with the Wii U and we will." "For us, launching new systems is about bringing new consumer experiences to the marketplace and we're doing that with Nintendo Land and third-party publishers are doing it with games like ZombiU. For us, now is the right time to launch new hardware." Well fast forward to April 2013 and I think we can at least confirm that Sony said piss off. And I hope Nintendo is looking around and saying maybe just maybe we should have put in a better GPU and more ram.

Better GPU and more RAM would have made the console even more expensive

Power is what the consumer expects for the upgrade. It's the reason the iPhone and Galaxy have long lines and sell out on the days they launch. You pay the premium for it. Problem is in Nintendo case it did not beef it up. It can play PS3/360 games at a higher resolution once its optimized. That's not a step forward. Game companies spend millions on new graphics engines for next gen and the last thing they want to do is detune their engine for a week console. It's like Ford put out a new improved 5.0 liter V8 with 500 hp. In the Nintendo race revision you can only have 350 HP. Why waste time detuning.

Well, it is technically a beef-up But you guys want more. Nintendo wants to make the console more affordable
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#67 wraigth
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[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Sony is about have the highest selling console for the 3rd time in 4 generations. I think they know a Hell of a lot more than you do. :lol:

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This post proves that all cows are delusional.

The Wii doesn't exist!

I hope that was sarcasm, cos' if not then you're reading the post wrong. :P Although it is a bit premature to be claiming a third victory when the console price hasn't even been announced.