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#1 WllDan7
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That is probably going to happen. Here is the article: http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-patents-tech-to-block-used-games-6401992 . Looks like Microsoft and Sony are going to fight used games together. The only thing is it effects us all, even if you buy new games. Since for example GameStop would lose the money the normally make on used games they will try to keep used games as high as possible for longer. Meaning new games prices will stay at $60 or whatever they will be priced for longer. Meaning that some may be buying a lot less games throughout the year. Looks like my wii u is going to have to keep me good for longer than I thought.
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*claps* thanks for the 3 month old news
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Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

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Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

Shirokishi_
actually they have.... It will be up to the publisher. thats what they said
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Oh it's the remember remeber the 5th of November game all over again... ?

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Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

Shirokishi_
The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.
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#7 casharmy
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Or maybe that tech is what they will use for publishers who don't want their games sold second hand?  

Sony said they will leave it up to the publishers, are you that much out of the loop that you have to dig up 3 month old news and not know more recent info on what's going on?

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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

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The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.

IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

heeweesRus

The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.

IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?

This. It has always been up to the publisher. Lems are desperate for M$ to drag everybody down with them so they are grasping at straws.

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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

k2theswiss
actually they have.... It will be up to the publisher. thats what they said

thats a pretty vague sidestep. are all their games still going to require an online code? will publishers be able to lock out single player and multiplayer?
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#11 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

heeweesRus
The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.

IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?

They are a publisher also and could not even say all Sony published games will be the same as last gen. It is a vague answer like I said and you do not have any idea what used games will be like on the PS4.
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#12 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.NathanDrakeSwag

IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?

This. It has always been up to the publisher. Lems are desperate for M$ to drag everybody down with them so they are grasping at straws.

I prefer neither system to do it because I do not like the direction consoles are going. You Sony fanboys though just want to put your head in the sand pretending Microsoft would be the only one to ever do anything wrong because they are satan but Sony's PS4 is made of love and fanboy wishes.
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That is probably going to happen. Here is the article: http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-patents-tech-to-block-used-games-6401992 . Looks like Microsoft and Sony are going to fight used games together. The only thing is it effects us all, even if you buy new games. Since for example GameStop would lose the money the normally make on used games they will try to keep used games as high as possible for longer. Meaning new games prices will stay at $60 or whatever they will be priced for longer. Meaning that some may be buying a lot less games throughout the year. Looks like my wii u is going to have to keep me good for longer than I thought. WllDan7
Your source is out and out dated.
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

heeweesRus
The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.

IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?

EA says they are done with online passes. But looking at Microsoft that is not the case. And the fact Sony games use online passes is another one. So the thing Sony said needs to be asked again. And a straight answer needs to be given. Because if some how the ps4 installs games just like x1 it is he same thing meaning Sony's previous statement would be miscommunication.
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.NathanDrakeSwag

IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?

This. It has always been up to the publisher. Lems are desperate for M$ to drag everybody down with them so they are grasping at straws.

I have all the systems. Look at my sig. But I will not go into a gen that seems more screwy than this one. That is all I am saying.
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The fact...the point is....the.... Honestly I don't know where to start with this topic. Sony has left it up to the publisher, that means very little at the minute. Best case scenario, it's the same as this gen. Worst case, I won't support PS4 either. The middle ground being we know exactly which publishers to ignore. Getting my crystal ball out, I would say what they ment was publishers could still do online passes.
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It looks like MS tried then backtracked, if they both try together then hopefully MS can retract its once every 24 hour DRM checkup, I'd rather get rid of that then no used games. Hey, let's not pretend that it's just MS and Sony that want this, I'm sure like 99.9999% of the publishing world does to, and those that pretend not to are just pandering for attention.
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sure

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The rumors of blocked used games originally started with Sony. IF MICROSOFT BLOCKS USED GAMES AND SONY DOESNT THEN SONY WILL GET NO SUPPORT FROM 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS. FACT.
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

k2theswiss
actually they have.... It will be up to the publisher. thats what they said

Yes... Which is not enough information to judge.
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]The fact...the point is....the.... Honestly I don't know where to start with this topic. Sony has left it up to the publisher, that means very little at the minute. Best case scenario, it's the same as this gen. Worst case, I won't support PS4 either. The middle ground being we know exactly which publishers to ignore. Getting my crystal ball out, I would say what they ment was publishers could still do online passes.

And since most publishers want this including Sony, it is probably going to be like x1. That was easy.
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[QUOTE="WllDan7"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]The fact...the point is....the.... Honestly I don't know where to start with this topic. Sony has left it up to the publisher, that means very little at the minute. Best case scenario, it's the same as this gen. Worst case, I won't support PS4 either. The middle ground being we know exactly which publishers to ignore. Getting my crystal ball out, I would say what they ment was publishers could still do online passes.

And since most publishers want this including Sony, it is probably going to be like x1. That was easy.

Out of all the publishers still in existence, only 5 or 6 are still using online passes. The rest of them don't have their head as far up their own ass, and kind of destroys the argument from that other guy yelling over the PS4 apparently not getting third party support if it wasn't anti-consumer.
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If Sony locks hem then ps4 will probably be last console I buy.
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="WllDan7"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]The fact...the point is....the.... Honestly I don't know where to start with this topic. Sony has left it up to the publisher, that means very little at the minute. Best case scenario, it's the same as this gen. Worst case, I won't support PS4 either. The middle ground being we know exactly which publishers to ignore. Getting my crystal ball out, I would say what they ment was publishers could still do online passes.

And since most publishers want this including Sony, it is probably going to be like x1. That was easy.

Out of all the publishers still in existence, only 5 or 6 are still using online passes. The rest of them don't have their head as far up their own ass, and kind of destroys the argument from that other guy yelling over the PS4 apparently not getting third party support if it wasn't anti-consumer.

That changes with x1. If they can make all their money back with doing this with x1 why would they not do the same on ps4? The system will be in place to do so for everyone. So the companies you think won't do it wil. Why do you think wii u is losing the little support it had? Because all the publishers want this.and nintendo is not playing ball so on to Sony and Microsoft. I can bring this thread up at the end of the year when it starts to happen.
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Wow, this thread is dying. Probably because its not ripping into MS like the cows enjoy so much...lol

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[QUOTE="WllDan7"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="WllDan7"] And since most publishers want this including Sony, it is probably going to be like x1. That was easy.

Out of all the publishers still in existence, only 5 or 6 are still using online passes. The rest of them don't have their head as far up their own ass, and kind of destroys the argument from that other guy yelling over the PS4 apparently not getting third party support if it wasn't anti-consumer.

That changes with x1. If they can make all their money back with doing this with x1 why would they not do the same on ps4? The system will be in place to do so for everyone. So the companies you think won't do it wil. Why do you think wii u is losing the little support it had? Because all the publishers want this.and nintendo is not playing ball so on to Sony and Microsoft. I can bring this thread up at the end of the year when it starts to happen.

You go right ahead and do that. I'll be on my new gaming PC because this industry will be dying by the month.
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Wow, this thread is dying. Probably because its not ripping into MS like the cows enjoy so much...lol

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It was dead before it even started. Look at the date to the article he linked to.
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if sony follows microsoft , there wont be a war next gen , nintendo will  easily out sell them both

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very old news. It would really suck if true though:(

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Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

Shirokishi_

Sony already confirmed that they will do the right thing in regards to used games and lending games to friends, etc... what the f**k does that mean? i dont know but hopefully good.

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I'm gonna be honest, used game fees do not really bother me. We already have online passes and everyone seems to get along with them pretty well. If you made a game and were selling it for full price, when it becomes cheaper later on and you get less money for it, would you like that? I really doubt it. So I think the fees are not that bad, I mean game devs should get their money properly.

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I'm gonna be honest, used game fees do not really bother me. We already have online passes and everyone seems to get along with them pretty well. If you made a game and were selling it for full price, when it becomes cheaper later on and you get less money for it, would you like that? I really doubt it. So I think the fees are not that bad, I mean game devs should get their money properly.

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They don't get that money though. Publishers do.
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

heeweesRus
The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.

IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?

So what? Newsflash for people who use this statement in defense of Sony: publishers are the very ones pushing the hardest for the eradication of used games. So how exactly is handing the decision to get rid of used games to those who want them ridden of an assurance that they'll be allowed? EA has gotten rid of online passes. You believe they'd do that if sales of used software were allowed on PS3? The only difference between Sony and MS is that it seems MS is enforcing it and Sony isn't, but they are leaving the option open to the publishers....who want used games gone. Not too hard to put two and two together.
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[QUOTE="lilnazar"]

I'm gonna be honest, used game fees do not really bother me. We already have online passes and everyone seems to get along with them pretty well. If you made a game and were selling it for full price, when it becomes cheaper later on and you get less money for it, would you like that? I really doubt it. So I think the fees are not that bad, I mean game devs should get their money properly.

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They don't get that money though. Publishers do.

If that's the case then I guess it sucks. But if Sony is going to implement Online Passes for 9$ just like usually, I don't think it would be a issue.
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i don`t buy used games period.....................fap it...........

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I look forward to hearing the publishers crying like little b!tches because their games aren't selling well. I look forward to them being too stupid to grasp why it is happening and watching them blame piracy like they always do.
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That is probably going to happen. Here is the article: http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-patents-tech-to-block-used-games-6401992 . Looks like Microsoft and Sony are going to fight used games together. The only thing is it effects us all, even if you buy new games. Since for example GameStop would lose the money the normally make on used games they will try to keep used games as high as possible for longer. Meaning new games prices will stay at $60 or whatever they will be priced for longer. Meaning that some may be buying a lot less games throughout the year. Looks like my wii u is going to have to keep me good for longer than I thought. WllDan7

 

 

:lol:

 

Old news.. and no one knows.

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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Ill just wait for Sonys word because they actually havent said ANYTHING about used games and such so far.

shadowchronicle

actually they have.... It will be up to the publisher. thats what they said

Yes... Which is not enough information to judge.

That has never stopped anyone on the internet.

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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]The fact they are not answering questions about it or when they do they are being very vague I think says a lot.MirkoS77
IT IS UP TO THE PUBLISHER. How many damn times does that have to be repeated?

So what? Newsflash for people who use this statement in defense of Sony: publishers are the very ones pushing the hardest for the eradication of used games. So how exactly is handing the decision to get rid of used games to those who want them ridden of an assurance that they'll be allowed? EA has gotten rid of online passes. You believe they'd do that if sales of used software were allowed on PS3? The only difference between Sony and MS is that it seems MS is enforcing it and Sony isn't, but they are leaving the option open to the publishers....who want used games gone. Not too hard to put two and two together.

Well said. I can't believe people are giving Sony a pass (wait, yes I can) about this and not a few days ago were crucifying MS for something similar..

It's going to happen sooner or later. The used games market has been pretty much eradicated on the PC years ago and publishers won't stop until that happens on the consoles as well.

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]The rumors of blocked used games originally started with Sony. IF MICROSOFT BLOCKS USED GAMES AND SONY DOESNT THEN SONY WILL GET NO SUPPORT FROM 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS. FACT.

Yet games on the PS4 would sell better and ultimately push developers into supporting the platform. FACT.
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The rumors of blocked used games originally started with Sony. IF MICROSOFT BLOCKS USED GAMES AND SONY DOESNT THEN SONY WILL GET NO SUPPORT FROM 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS. FACT.Miketheman83

No, that isn't fact. However, if sales went WAY up for new games sales on the X1 it could become fact. However, in retrospect, if people did not support MS's new policy and if new game sales were actually lower or remaining close to the same, devs wouldn't really care.

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My take:
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#43 clr84651
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Sony stated they wont charge, but the game publishers can. The patent may be for their publishers to do it on PS4.Â