Removal of OtherOS...do you or don't you like having options?

With the infamous removal of OtherOS in the earlier editions of PS3s, I just wanted to get an idea of the average System Wars user's views on choices for what they can do with their consoles so I'll keep this poll short and sweet.

It's real simple. I myself was never hardcore into using the feature of OtherOS but I loved the fact that I could have an alternative OS whenever I wanted and the fact I actually PAID for it. For me as a consumer, it all comes down to choice. I like choices, as opposed to having no choices and being dictated to what I can and cannot do with my system that I have spent MY money on.

IMHO it takes someone truly crazy to claim that they do not like choice when it comes to something they have purchased, especially when they once had a choice in something and then that choice no longer exists anymore and turned into a one-way only situation.

This also applies to Sony not reinstating PS2 playback on current production PS3s...although this doesn't fall under the same vein as the removal of OtherOS.

So fellow gamers, do you like choices or not?

How is something that is completely useless (to me, anyway), considered a choice?

To me, having Other OS compared to not having it is the exact same thing; there is no choice, regardless if it has been removed or not.

I, outright, could not care less for losing the feature. I paid (at launch) for my PS3 to play games and blu-rays, and that was my reason for purchasing the system. I'm not gonna get into a breakdown of each individual thing my money went toward with regards to the PS3, because I just don't care.

How is something that is completely useless (to me, anyway), considered a choice?

To me, having Other OS compared to not having it is the exact same thing; there is no choice, regardless if it has been removed or not.

CTUDude

lol, thank you for your comment.

I don't buy a console for having choice and options. I buy consoles because of the exclusives and because of the closed system/streamlined experience. For choice I stick with my PC.

I don't agree with your poll, it seems like you're trying to make it look like someone who doesn't care about the feature doesn't like choices. I just don't care about the feature, not that I don't like choices, nothing to do with choices.soulitane

Yes but in this particular case it is about choices hence the word...OTHER.

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I don't agree with your poll, it seems like you're trying to make it look like someone who doesn't care about the feature doesn't like choices. I just don't care about the feature, not that I don't like choices, nothing to do with choices.eyebrows

Yes but in this particular case it is about choices hence the word...OTHER.

Backwards Compatability is on the ps3, it just has to be UNLOCKED.

This means if you owned ps1 and ps2 games you could play them all on your ps3 with OtherOS. Sony relized they could make money selling there older ps1 and ps2 games on PSN instead of allowing people to play the ps1/ps2 discs they already own, instead making them have to re-buy the game on PSN to be able to play there favorite ps1/ps2 games. They want to sell the games and make money instead of allowing people to use the ps3 to play ps2 and ps1 games. its not something they ahve to add its already there to be unlocked with OtherOS.

I know alot of people who bought a ps3 for that very reason to use OtherOS for backwards compatability and other things.

I didnt by a ps3 myself for the otherOS but I relize that alot of people did and sony lied to them.

Leaving OtherOS on there would be great and it should still be on there imo, give people the option to use what they have bought as they want.

Would not use it myself, but I can see why others are very pissed and its not right what Sony has done. At the same time what these hacekrs have done releasing all thsi info about peoples families,etc.. is not good either, the whole situation is a bad one, one that could have been avoided.

How is something that is completely useless (to me, anyway), considered a choice?

To me, having Other OS compared to not having it is the exact same thing; there is no choice, regardless if it has been removed or not.

CTUDude

I fail to see what our personal preferences of console features has to do with our IQs. Personally, I like having the option to install OtherOS if I choose to, but I much prefer the option to play games online without modders and hackers ruining all the fun. So, if Sony felt they needed to remove the feature to maintain the security of their system then they did what was best for the majority of us. That's my "mental state" for ya. ;)MrSelf-Destruct

Great comment...I pity those who cheat/mod online and ruin the online experience for others, especially the ones who do it with a pirated copy of a game to people with a legit copy.

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

How is something that is completely useless (to me, anyway), considered a choice?

To me, having Other OS compared to not having it is the exact same thing; there is no choice, regardless if it has been removed or not.

Everyone is clear as to why it was removed right?

Sure, I like choices but common sense tells us we can't always get what we want.

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

Cali3350

[QUOTE="CTUDude"]

How is something that is completely useless (to me, anyway), considered a choice?

To me, having Other OS compared to not having it is the exact same thing; there is no choice, regardless if it has been removed or not.

antifanboyftw

Playing playstation 1 and playstation 2 games that people bought years ago is not an honest reason? Are you serious or jsut trolling?

I like choice... if it was on the BOX as a feature when i bought it, then they removed it after, they STOLE it from me.

If I buy a car with a 10 year warranty, and then they remove it to a zero year warranty... that too was stolen.

If I bought a house with 4 bedrooms and a shed, and the previous owners came and demolished my shed AFTER i moved in then this is what Sony just did... a useless shed that I still owned.

What if I paid for xbox live and they removed the ability to play games online? Same **** different pile.

I like choice... if it was on the BOX as a feature when i bought it, then they removed it after, they STOLE it from me.

If I buy a car with a 10 year warranty, and then they remove it to a zero year warranty... that too was stolen.

If I bought a house with 4 bedrooms and a shed, and the previous owners came and demolished my shed AFTER i moved in then this is what Sony just did... a useless shed that I still owned.

What if I paid for xbox live and they removed the ability to play games online? Same **** different pile.

Phazevariance

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

Cali3350

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

Did anyone ever use any other OS?

Having options is nice and the removal of the backwards compatibility was a bummer,as far as the OS goes i couldn´t care less,I would never use that on a console anyway.

I like choice... if it was on the BOX as a feature when i bought it, then they removed it after, they STOLE it from me.

If I buy a car with a 10 year warranty, and then they remove it to a zero year warranty... that too was stolen.

If I bought a house with 4 bedrooms and a shed, and the previous owners came and demolished my shed AFTER i moved in then this is what Sony just did... a useless shed that I still owned.

What if I paid for xbox live and they removed the ability to play games online? Same **** different pile.

Phazevariance

Exactly, "Hey I know you juust bought this card two months ago but we are going to have to come by and turn the AC and ability to use 4WD off, sorry security reasons". Some people just dont relize this is a consumer rights issue, not hate against sony the brand.

I would never use OtherOS myself except for maybe playing a few old ps1 games, but I do relize that some people bought the ps3 with that in mind, even if I didnt.

Did anyone ever use any other OS?

Silverbond

I believe hackers were trying to use it to enable piracy on the PS3 lol.

Incoming terrible analogies. Lets hope Rosa Parks doesn't come up again.

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

eyebrows

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

Sony didn't remove PS2 playback, the only feature they removed was Other OS. If you bought a 60gb PS3 or 80gb PS3, you can still play PS2 games.

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away.

Cali3350

Exactly, well said.

I like choice... if it was on the BOX as a feature when i bought it, then they removed it after, they STOLE it from me.

If I buy a car with a 10 year warranty, and then they remove it to a zero year warranty... that too was stolen.

If I bought a house with 4 bedrooms and a shed, and the previous owners came and demolished my shed AFTER i moved in then this is what Sony just did... a useless shed that I still owned.

What if I paid for xbox live and they removed the ability to play games online? Same **** different pile.

Phazevariance

As far as I am aware otherOS was not an on the box feature. Don't know for sure though.

[QUOTE="eyebrows"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

Gorcman

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

If you bought a 60gb PS3 or 80gb PS3, you can still play PS2 games.

IF you bought a certain model lol, what about for those who did not? And what about ps1 games?

Would I have used the function? No. Is it lame they took it out? Of course.

If the choice is between having a feature I never ever used removed versus having hackers ruining my online experience, I choose the latter.

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

[QUOTE="Gorcman"]

[QUOTE="eyebrows"]

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

kozzy1234

If you bought a 60gb PS3 or 80gb PS3, you can still play PS2 games.

IF you bought a certain model lol, what about for those who did not? And what about ps1 games?

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

[QUOTE="Gorcman"]

[QUOTE="eyebrows"]

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

kozzy1234

If you bought a 60gb PS3 or 80gb PS3, you can still play PS2 games.

IF you bought a certain model lol, what about for those who did not? And what about ps1 games?

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

[QUOTE="Gorcman"]

[QUOTE="eyebrows"]

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

If you bought a 60gb PS3 or 80gb PS3, you can still play PS2 games.

IF you bought a certain model lol, what about for those who did not? And what about ps1 games?

[QUOTE="Gorcman"]

[QUOTE="eyebrows"]

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

kozzy1234

If you bought a 60gb PS3 or 80gb PS3, you can still play PS2 games.

IF you bought a certain model lol, what about for those who did not? And what about ps1 games?

[QUOTE="eyebrows"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Sony advertised a feature to its customer base, then took it back, completely locking out the system in the process (you cant play ANY game from the last 2 years unless you wipe the option). They completely took something away. The PS3 has been a disaster from a managerial point of view.

Gorcman

Why can't more people think like this guy. Great comment.

It's not about the fact OtherOS gave you an alternative OS for your PS3 that you paid for...it's the principle of what a controlling corporation like Sony can do at the click of their fingers and bully us, the consumer.

The secondary argument that comes out of this is regarding what Sony did to PS2 playback..."who cares, I wanna play PS3 games not old games". Come on, would anybody sane enough really NOT want PS2 playback as a CHOICE from a current in-production PS3 model? For the trolls, I guess not...

Sony didn't remove PS2 playback, the only feature they removed was Other OS. If you bought a 60gb PS3 or 80gb PS3, you can still play PS2 games.

They did bring this on themselves, but I dont think end users should suffer for it (from sony OR hackers)

How is this poll/thread gonna help you determine the "gamer's" average IQ? That makes no sense what so ever.

Everyone likes choices. Choices are always good.

Now there is the poll which mainly mentioned choices and whether or not we like having them.

So people should say yes in the poll.

Now the topic is about the PS3 and them taking out the feature for another operating system. To most people the otherOS is useless and we could care less about having it.

Just because we dont care if there is the option for another OS doesnt mean we dont like choice!

People need to start reading when quoting me...I said it would've been nice if there was the CHOICE for PS2 playback in current in-production PS3s.

It's nice that all PS3s can play PS1 games but they just want to milk people dry to rebuy their PS2 collection...although I'm a sucker for HD remakes I should still be given the CHOICE.

99% of people with PS3's likely never knew that it even supported other OS's, knew what these where, how to use them, and what could be done with them.

The Other OS feature was, and is, practically irrelevant.

99% of people with PS3's likely never knew that it even supported other OS's, knew what these where, how to use them, and what could be done with them.

The Other OS feature was, and is, practically irrelevant.

789shadow

That is sad but true.

People need to start reading when quoting me...I said it would've been nice if there was the CHOICE for PS2 playback in current in-production PS3s.

It's nice that all PS3s can play PS1 games but they just want to milk people dry to rebuy their PS2 collection...although I'm a sucker for HD remakes I should still be given the CHOICE.

eyebrows

They don't have to give us any choice if they don't want to. Nobody is actually saying they don't like choice.