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#1  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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Good news for some, bad new for the others.

The bad part is that now developers may stop releasing games on PC simultaneously with the consoles.

Resident Evil sold 2.5M copies. I wonder if that will be enough for Capcom in order not to blame PC for lost sales. Even though I think their game is tremendously overpriced for what it offers.

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#2  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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Why do dev waste thier money to "protect" thier games??

Denuvo has always been anti consumer and hurting legit customers more. Pirates will always find a way.

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#3 Daniel_Su123
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Aren't UWP games much more harder to crack than games with Denuvo.

None of any UWP games have been cracked so far, only bypassed.

So it may be that gaming companies turn to UWP instead. And still keep the open nature benefits

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#4 DaVillain  Moderator
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Never had any issues with Denuvo-protected games and my purchase of RE7 didn't concern me.

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#5  Edited By LustForSoul
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When paying costumers get worse service than pirates they're already screwing up.

They won't stop making PC ports though, all RE games have had decent sales on PC.

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#6  Edited By mjorh
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I still back my statement regarding Denuvo, it's useless and has no noticeable positive effect on sales, it can only hurt legit buyers, hence I consider this as a good news.

Steam is enough to make publishers release their games on PC, it's not 2007 anymore.

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All this is going to do is drive developers on PC to UWP, it's very secure.

Capcom is going to see the Steam breech and reevaluate their releases while the UWP version of the game remains untouched, just like all the other games on UWP.

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#8 CRUSHER88
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Game sales are pretty front loaded no? They are probably hoping that everyone who wanted to pay full price already did on PC.

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#9 Pedro
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Has Denuvo negatively affected the game's operation?

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#10  Edited By silversix_
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@Pedro said:

Has Denuvo negatively affected the game's operation?

Yes. It deleted my saves and told me to pre-order the Switch.

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#11  Edited By lamprey263
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it took us only five days to kick in your doors, so everybody should just leave their doors unlocked as that better for all thieves um err all home owners

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#12 dynamitecop
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@Pedro said:

Has Denuvo negatively affected the game's operation?

Of course not, there's no evidence that it has ever negatively affected anything, ever, in any game.

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#13  Edited By AzatiS
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Good news for some, bad new for the others.

The bad part is that now developers may stop releasing games on PC simultaneously with the consoles.

Resident Evil sold 2.5M copies. I wonder if that will be enough for Capcom in order not to blame PC for lost sales. Even though I think their game is tremendously overpriced for what it offers.

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So sales of 2.5 millions in few days is considered low and we should blame PC for that ? Its not like its a PC exclusive or something..

Game keep selling as we speak and for sure will be on par with some of the most popular RE games as far as sales go in the end. So i dont get all the fuss. PC gamers that wouldnt spend a single $ for RE7 either way , cracked or not , they have the ability to play the game for free ... Thats all there is to it.

People should understand this , profits that companies losing from PC piracy is far less than actually people think.

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@silversix_ said:
@Pedro said:

Has Denuvo negatively affected the game's operation?

Yes. It deleted my saves and told me to pre-order the Switch.

Then its working. :P

@dynamitecop said:

Of course not, there's no evidence that it has ever negatively affected anything, ever, in any game.

Well then there isn't a problem then.

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'Piracy doesn't affect game sales' said every single pirate PC gamer who refuses to pay for games and steals them instead. Right, thanks for your input.

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#16  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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What harm does Denuvo do to ones computer?

As far as I'm concerned it doesn't do stuff like SecuROM so it's not as obtrusive.

EDIT: Don't answer this question. I googled it. Denuvo requires a 3rd Party log in to a server to "validate" that the file is legit. Otherwise you can't play the game. So even if you do have a Legit Copy of a game, you can still be locked out of it because that Server didn't say you could play it. But it's only a one time log in from what I can tell.

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#17  Edited By GhoX
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@ghosts4ever said:

Denuvo has always been anti consumer and hurting legit customers more. Pirates will always find a way.

In what ways?

Anyway, this crack appears to be very single instance. Some much older and immensely popular titles still remain uncracked as the pirates struggle with consistency. Key examples being Dishonored 2 and the older Total War Warhammer, just to name a couple.

If Denuvo does fail, all we'll end up with are always-online DRM like the one Hitman has. Now that truly hurts legitimate consumers, but is also a lot more secure.

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@Pedro said:
@dynamitecop said:

Of course not, there's no evidence that it has ever negatively affected anything, ever, in any game.

Well then there isn't a problem then.

I have never read a single complaint about Denuvo from legitimate consumers. Indeed, it's so unintrusive that legitimate buyers don't usually find out if a game is using Denuvo or not (this thread is in fact where I'm finding out that RE7 uses Denuvo in the first place!)

However, I have seen desperate pirates organising propaganda-style rumour mill on reddit, and the initial rumours surrounding Denuvo's detrimental effects on SSD and performance also originated from the motherland of widespread piracy on dodgy websites which no longer exist. Always makes me super suspicious when someone starts shouting about Denuvo's detriments without a shred of meaningful proof.

Ah well, I guess we now live in a world of alternative facts. So I say burn Denuvo like the witches they are! Their DRM is clearly magic and turns children into lizards.

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This further cements my belief that it's not denuvo itself that is harder to crack but it all depends on how it's actually implemented in the game to protect it.

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#20 no-scope-AK47
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@silversix_ said:
@Pedro said:

Has Denuvo negatively affected the game's operation?

Yes. It deleted my saves and told me to pre-order the Switch.

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#21 ribhu672
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Okay then. So how many months or year did the rein of denuvo lasted on PC? Was it longer than any previous DRM or anti-tamper tech?

One thing is clear its that no indie dev will ever use denuvo again.(looking at playdead's inside).

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#22 ribhu672
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@daniel_su123: That would only happen if UWP gain similar or greater reputation than Steam among PC gamers. I don't see that happening ever.Reasons? Microsoft.

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#23  Edited By mjorh
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@GhoX:@Pedro: It needs Online Activation after a certain period of time, it's like 30days or sth... it gets done in the background so you don't notice it. Now, consider a case where you don't have access to the internet for that period of time and you wanna play the game, well, you simply can not ..... granted, this doesn't affect the masses, but still, it hurts the legit consumer.

@blueinheaven: Yeah right!

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#24 Litchie
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Good news for those who don't want to support Capcom's crappy deals.

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#25 djura
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It's a real shame when publishers punish legitimate game owners with terrible DRM technologies - it hurts game owners, but it really hurts everyone in the industry.

That said, don't steal. It's not cool.

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#26 R4gn4r0k
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I'm waiting on 21:9 support to be included in the game, before I consider buying it.

I really don't want to play a first person game on my TV with a controller, I'd rather just enjoy it on my monitor.

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@mjorh said:

@GhoX:@Pedro: It needs Online Activation after a certain period of time, it's like 30days or sth... it gets done in the background so you don't notice it. Now, consider a case where you don't have access to the internet for that period of time and you wanna play the game, well, you simply can not ..... granted, this doesn't affect the masses, but still, it hurts the legit consumer.

@blueinheaven: Yeah right!

Fair point. Let's all get rid of Denuvo's one-off online check-in and opt for always online DRM instead then. Now you simply need internet connection all the time. :)

The moment Denuvo dies, and if there isn't a similar alternative on the market, always online DRM will be where publishers are heading. There is surprisingly fairly decent acceptance of the DRM already (i.e. no outcry over the always online DRM of Hitman or For Honor), so publishers may move in that direction anyway if it is cheaper than Denuvo.

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#28 R4gn4r0k
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@mjorh said:

@GhoX:@Pedro: It needs Online Activation after a certain period of time, it's like 30days or sth... it gets done in the background so you don't notice it. Now, consider a case where you don't have access to the internet for that period of time and you wanna play the game, well, you simply can not ..... granted, this doesn't affect the masses, but still, it hurts the legit consumer.

@blueinheaven: Yeah right!

Wasn't Xbone supposed to launch the same ?

It's not "always online" in the sense that it only needs an acitvation every 30 days.

yet... it still feels like ALWAYS ONLINE because if you're not online on the moment Denuvo wants to activate again = you can't play the game you legitimately purchased.

I hope every single Denuvo game gets cracked. So they'd drop that DRM like they have dropped every single piece of crap DRM in the past.

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#29 mjorh
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@GhoX:They wouldn't, the backlash for that kinda DRM would be so huge. Hitman almost got away with it because it's simply one of the best games of the year, and they finally back pedaled on it (now you can play the game in offline mode with almost all the features)

@R4gn4r0k:Yeah, which they literally got smashed for it.

And tbh, it's a non-issue for many players because you usually have access to the internet, but there will always be cases like the one in the picture.

Yeah, Piracy has become less of an issue lately thx to strong platforms like Steam.

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#30 Heil68
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Well that didn't take long.

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#31 R4gn4r0k
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@mjorh said:

@R4gn4r0k:Yeah, which they literally got smashed for it.

And tbh, it's a non-issue for many players because you usually have access to the internet, but there will always be cases like the one in the picture.

Yeah, Piracy has become less of an issue lately thx to strong platforms like Steam.

I think that is one of the few instances than when Console gamers refuse to get fucked over, and PC gamers just accept "Denuvo"

Also, concerning your reply to GhoX: I've seen many games patch out Denuvo after some months now. I guess it's all about those 'day one' sales they need to get. So a few months down the line and they say: "Hey guys, good news, we're gonna remove the DRM that wasn't necessary in the first place"

Devs should just save themselves the trouble and COST (because Denuvo is expensive) and just not bother with DRM.

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#32 lawlessx
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@dynamitecop said:
@Pedro said:

Has Denuvo negatively affected the game's operation?

Of course not, there's no evidence that it has ever negatively affected anything, ever, in any game.

yet you see so many random ppl stating "Denvo ruins the gameplay!"...it's ridiculous

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@mjorh said:

@R4gn4r0k:Yeah, which they literally got smashed for it.

And tbh, it's a non-issue for many players because you usually have access to the internet, but there will always be cases like the one in the picture.

Yeah, Piracy has become less of an issue lately thx to strong platforms like Steam.

I think that is one of the few instances than when Console gamers refuse to get fucked over, and PC gamers just accept "Denuvo"

Also, concerning your reply to GhoX: I've seen many games patch out Denuvo after some months now. I guess it's all about those 'day one' sales they need to get. So a few months down the line and they say: "Hey guys, good news, we're gonna remove the DRM that wasn't necessary in the first place"

Devs should just save themselves the trouble and COST (because Denuvo is expensive) and just not bother with DRM.

The big reason for that is we didn't know in the beginning that Denuvo is semi online DRM that requires reactivations periodically, neither did they market it as such. Prett sure many gamers are still unaware of the fact that it requires periodic activations and companies still market it as a one time activation system.

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#34  Edited By GhoX
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@mjorh said:

@GhoX:They wouldn't, the backlash for that kinda DRM would be so huge. Hitman almost got away with it because it's simply one of the best games of the year, and they finally back pedaled on it (now you can play the game in offline mode with almost all the features)

I saw backlash for always online DRM when Diablo 3 first came out. Since then? Haven't heard a thing. And complaints have been in the vast minority and usually crushed by fanboys. I mean, nobody even cared about how For Honor has always online DRM as well.

Your claim that the "backlash for that kinda DRM would be so huge" is entirely baseless. I say it's much more likely that the general public will be highly accepting of always online DRM, regardless of how much it intrudes upon their consumer rights. In the end, there will only be edgy social justice warriors who still cry about DRM.

It's not unexpected though on PC. Given the highly digital nature of the platform, having internet connection is essentially a necessity to getting the games in the first place. Online activation can only affect PC gamers who still buy retail copies, which would be extremely few in number in comparison to the digital crowd.

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@GhoX said:
@mjorh said:

@GhoX:They wouldn't, the backlash for that kinda DRM would be so huge. Hitman almost got away with it because it's simply one of the best games of the year, and they finally back pedaled on it (now you can play the game in offline mode with almost all the features)

I saw backlash for always online DRM when Diablo 3 first came out. Since then? Haven't heard a thing. And complaints have been in the vast minority and usually crushed by fanboys. I mean, nobody even cared about how For Honor has always online DRM as well.

Your claim that the "backlash for that kinda DRM would be so huge" is entirely baseless. I say it's much more likely that the general public will be highly accepting of always online DRM, regardless of how much it intrudes upon their consumer rights. In the end, there will only be edgy social justice warriors who still cry about DRM.

The launch matters, and it's Diablo that we're talking about here, you can get away with it when it comes to big titles but that simply cannot be applied to all games.

If it's baseless, they why they backpedaled on Hitman? then why there's a few games with Online DRM? If EA or any other big publisher had found any chance in implementing online DRM, they would've done that in a blink of an eye

About For Honor, it's an online game .... piracy is only for offline ones.

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@mjorh said:

@R4gn4r0k:Yeah, which they literally got smashed for it.

And tbh, it's a non-issue for many players because you usually have access to the internet, but there will always be cases like the one in the picture.

Yeah, Piracy has become less of an issue lately thx to strong platforms like Steam.

I think that is one of the few instances than when Console gamers refuse to get fucked over, and PC gamers just accept "Denuvo"

Also, concerning your reply to GhoX: I've seen many games patch out Denuvo after some months now. I guess it's all about those 'day one' sales they need to get. So a few months down the line and they say: "Hey guys, good news, we're gonna remove the DRM that wasn't necessary in the first place"

Devs should just save themselves the trouble and COST (because Denuvo is expensive) and just not bother with DRM.

Couldn't agree more.

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@Heil68 said:

Well that didn't take long.

FIFA is hard to crack apparently. Takes nearly a year to crack but by then the next version is out.

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#37  Edited By deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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@Litchie said:

Good news for those who don't want to support Capcom's crappy deals.

If you think a game is too expensive you should a) work harder to earn more money or b) wait until the game falls down to a price you are willing to pay.

It does not give you an excuse to steal it and basically stick your middle finger up at your fellow gamers who do pay for games.

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#38  Edited By VFighter
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Threads like this always weed out the loser theifs rather quickly lol.

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@ribhu672 said:

@daniel_su123: That would only happen if UWP gain similar or greater reputation than Steam among PC gamers. I don't see that happening ever.Reasons? Microsoft.

Agreed. UWP does need improvement, though people are just tolerating UWP at the moment. Though UWP is a good alternative to Denuvo

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@dynamitecop said:

All this is going to do is drive developers on PC to UWP, it's very secure.

Capcom is going to see the Steam breech and reevaluate their releases while the UWP version of the game remains untouched, just like all the other games on UWP.

Untouched because of low sales numbers LOL

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@no-scope-AK47 said:
@silversix_ said:
@Pedro said:

Has Denuvo negatively affected the game's operation?

Yes. It deleted my saves and told me to pre-order the Switch.

Holy god....................look at that freak.

Next executive order: keep this weirdo away from American kids

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#42 darkangel115
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Good news for some, bad new for the others.

The bad part is that now developers may stop releasing games on PC simultaneously with the consoles.

Resident Evil sold 2.5M copies. I wonder if that will be enough for Capcom in order not to blame PC for lost sales. Even though I think their game is tremendously overpriced for what it offers.

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that's like saying that stores shouldn't have security cause thieves will find a way to steal stuff anyway. Since when it is wrong to stop people from stealing your shit?

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#43  Edited By aroxx_ab
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@ghosts4ever said:

Why do dev waste thier money to "protect" thier games??

Denuvo has always been anti consumer and hurting legit customers more. Pirates will always find a way.

Why do you lock your door when leaving your home, if some1 really want get it they can...

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#44 Ghosts4ever
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@aroxx_ab said:
@ghosts4ever said:

Why do dev waste thier money to "protect" thier games??

Denuvo has always been anti consumer and hurting legit customers more. Pirates will always find a way.

Why do you lock your door when leaving your home, if some1 really want get it they can...

Piracy is like imagine if you own car. your car is stolen. you wake up and your car already there.

why dont dev released demo? why putting anti consumer DRM? its just hurt legit buyers. pirates will always pirate. they will never buy.

I as legit customer feel hurt by these stupid practices.

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@zeeshanhaider said:

The big reason for that is we didn't know in the beginning that Denuvo is semi online DRM that requires reactivations periodically, neither did they market it as such. Prett sure many gamers are still unaware of the fact that it requires periodic activations and companies still market it as a one time activation system.

Well put me in that category of unaware customers, well at least I was.

I hate Denuvo as much as I hate any kind of always online DRM that keeps paying customers from acessing their game :/

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@R4gn4r0k said:

I'm waiting on 21:9 support to be included in the game, before I consider buying it.

I really don't want to play a first person game on my TV with a controller, I'd rather just enjoy it on my monitor.

Here's a youtube channel that talks about games that have 21:9 or not and also has reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxfsK33BWlxHgglWl9LTAYA/videos

On topic, so Denuvo checks for activation every 30 days. Good to know.

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#47 zeeshanhaider
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

The big reason for that is we didn't know in the beginning that Denuvo is semi online DRM that requires reactivations periodically, neither did they market it as such. Prett sure many gamers are still unaware of the fact that it requires periodic activations and companies still market it as a one time activation system.

Well put me in that category of unaware customers, well at least I was.

I hate Denuvo as much as I hate any kind of always online DRM that keeps paying customers from acessing their game :/

So was I until someone divulged this info in one of the denuvo threads posted in SW.

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@cainetao11 said:
@dynamitecop said:

All this is going to do is drive developers on PC to UWP, it's very secure.

Capcom is going to see the Steam breech and reevaluate their releases while the UWP version of the game remains untouched, just like all the other games on UWP.

Untouched because of low sales numbers LOL

Yeah, because Gears of War 4, Forza Horizon 3 & Gears of War Ultimate Edition are just such low selling games lacking appeal... All of which are not cracked, can't be pirated, and do not exist outside of the UWP ecosystem, because people simply cannot crack them.

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I guess that's typical for the Resident Evil series. I swear, that series is the town slut of the video game community, isn't it? It's so heavily marketed and so widely available!

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@dynamitecop said:
@cainetao11 said:
@dynamitecop said:

All this is going to do is drive developers on PC to UWP, it's very secure.

Capcom is going to see the Steam breech and reevaluate their releases while the UWP version of the game remains untouched, just like all the other games on UWP.

Untouched because of low sales numbers LOL

Yeah, because Gears of War 4, Forza Horizon 3 & Gears of War Ultimate Edition are just such low selling games lacking appeal... All of which are not cracked, can't be pirated, and do not exist outside of the UWP ecosystem, because people simply cannot crack them.

Yeah!!!!!