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#51  Edited By dynamitecop
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@SexyJazzCat said:

@dynamitecop: That's a bit misleading. "Classic" RE fans wanted it to go back to it's roots. More people enjoyed RE4 than they did the previous ones.

Lol, just because the franchise became more mainstream due to changes doesn't mean it's a better or even good Resident Evil game. It's a good game on its own, but a bastardization nonetheless and a terrible Resident Evil game, 7 takes this divergence even further.

Those people were a completely different target audience in addition to those who played and greatly enjoyed the legacy games. Also, Resident Evil 4 was barely survival horror, like 5 & 6 it was predominantly action oriented, it pandered to the Call of Duty generation.

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#52 Shmiity
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Honestly, RE6 was so bad that I'm down for whatever Capcom wants to try. I'll give this game a shot. At least it isn't a Michael Bay Military Porn Explosion Action Movie fuckfest.

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#53 AcidTango
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The game looks interesting but it doesn't look like a Resident Evil game. I'm guessing that it's trying to be the next generation of RE games just like how RE 4,5, and 6 moved away from the original games. I do like that you play as a new character instead of Chris, Jill, Leon, and Claire. Also what are the regular enemies suppose to be? They don't look like the zombies from the original games or the enemies with parasites in them like in RE 4 and 6.

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#54 Ghosts4ever
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@AcidTango said:

The game looks interesting but it doesn't look like a Resident Evil game.

thats why im interested in this game. it doesnot feel like any previous mediocre fake horror resident evil game. and it doesnot feature shallow characters like jill or leonardo dicaprio.

it looks more horror, more dark, finally has atmosphere, looks like going to have good combat system which resident evil always lack and FINALLY A GOOD CONTROLLING!!. First person mean better controlling and more immersion.

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#55 nygamespotter
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Looks great. And the graphics look much better than the demo.

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#56 Sweetbackhair
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I'm really looking forward to this.

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#57 SexyJazzCat
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@dynamitecop: You're entitled to your opinion, that's all fine and dandy. But the reality is RE4 garnered far more praise and notoriety than any other resident evil game. The RE fans that you're referring to are actually in the minority.

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#58 dynamitecop
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@dynamitecop: You're entitled to your opinion, that's all fine and dandy. But the reality is RE4 garnered far more praise and notoriety than any other resident evil game. The RE fans that you're referring to are actually in the minority.

Like I said, and this is just a fact of reality; I don't care how much you try to incessant argue and frankly it's pretty easy to tell at this point that you're a post 4 adopter so I couldn't give less of a damn... Go figure... Resident Evil 4 was a good game, great even, however as a Resident Evil game it is terrible and lacking any continuity with the franchise, it has nothing to do with Resident Evil aside from character associations.

It's literally a new IP with Leon S. Kennedy thrown in. Me being in a minority is a total irrelevance when the game in question isn't even a good Resident Evil title to begin with, you can't just abandon and change everything that made a game something and then expect it to be looked at fondly for the merits of what it's supposed to be representing but is not.

Furthermore, Resident Evil 4 is responsible for the horrible direction the franchise went in general, it birthed 5 & 6, they're just extensions of 4 and playing off of what 4 was doing and conveying as a game itself. As I said, 4-6 pandered to the Call of Duty generation of gamers, which honestly makes it even more irrelevant.

Resident Evil 4 was praised as a game, it played great and did what it set out to do in excellent fashion, but don't for a second try to pass off that it was somehow good as a or for the Resident Evil franchise and its development direction, it simply wasn't and that design while praised initially is exactly what got 5 & 6 panned..

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#59 SexyJazzCat
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@dynamitecop: Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion. Don't think for a second anything you say is anything more than just that. Personally, the controls for the classic RE games were horrendous. Not fun at all. But the recent remakes fixed this issue. I really don't care what direction the game takes as long as the fundamental qualities remain intact, and it's enjoyable to play, which should be priority #1. No exceptions. "Not a good resident evil game" is such an irrelevant notion because of the reasons I already explained.

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#60 22Toothpicks
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Yeah, that's not looking too hot. Are they expecting me to slowly creep through the game like I'm wading through molasses? I guess this will make for an interesting VR experience but I'm not keen on the on-rails feel of the game.

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#61  Edited By dynamitecop
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@dynamitecop: Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion. Don't think for a second anything you say is anything more than just that. Personally, the controls for the classic RE games were horrendous. Not fun at all. But the recent remakes fixed this issue. I really don't care what direction the game takes as long as the fundamental qualities remain intact, and it's enjoyable to play, which should be priority #1. No exceptions. "Not a good resident evil game" is such an irrelevant notion because of the reasons I already explained.

"I really don't care what direction the game takes"

That's all you needed to say, and I already knew this from the moment you started rambling on like an idiot, because you're a newage post 4 band-wagoner without logic from the Call of Duty generation, just as I previously highlighted, you're gaming cancer.

Which lends massive credence to my point, you don't care enough to actually engage the continuity and fundamentals of the franchise itself and what makes it Resident Evil at its core. You're okay with whatever shit they shovel at you as long as you find it enjoyable and of high quality with little regard to it actually making sense and working within the parameters of the Resident Evil universe itself, that's extremely backwards thinking and the very reason you're so over the moon about Resident Evil 4.

It's a quality game, it's one of the best games to release in its time frame and it is enjoyable, but it's total garbage in relation to the franchise itself and general franchise continuity, it doesn't fit, it's literally a new IP with "Resident Evil" slapped on the box, anyone with the abilities of basic perception knows this. The fact that you're okay with that speaks volumes to your overall levels of and lack of appreciation for the existing community which came before you and games themselves as an art form, and what they invoke in their method of creation.

You're not about Resident Evil, you're not about this franchise, it doesn't matter to you, you're about a fixation with video games being a certain way and nothing more, you care not for the very embodiment of what makes a game the game it is. I've had this same idiotic conversation for the last 11 years with you ignorant children and I call you that because it's the same nonsense peddled by children then that still holds true today, and all you're doing is parroting exactly what those same new people said back then and in the interim leading up to this very moment.

You have absolutely no respect for this medium or what came before, you're selfish, selfish beyond words and arrogant beyond belief to think that it's okay to pander that just because a game is good at its core as a video game, that it's good as a part of a specific franchise and the model going forward, that's colossally stupid. Us original adopters, the very root and foundation of this franchise, the reason you even got a Resident Evil 4 at all, didn't buy, didn't play, didn't make Resident Evil the success it became because it was a fundamentally different game than it actually was, we did all those things because of what it was, how it looked, played, functioned and was designed, because of the lore, the story, the puzzles, characters and the settings.

You can love Resident Evil 4 for all I care, I encourage it because that is what you're into. I have no problem with that, but don't piss on my face and call it rain by demeaning everything that came before it trying to pass off that Resident Evil 4 is better, that's it's relatable, that it's actually Resident Evil, it sure as shit is not and never will be. Neither will 5, 6 or now 7 which is going to drive fans of 4, 5, 6 off a cliff just as it has for us original players by yet again creating an entirely new IP and calling it Resident Evil.

Capcom should have simply killed the franchise instead of souring it, created new IP's with new names, not destroy the legacy of something truly unique....

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I'm happy they are switching from the tired 4, 5, and 6 formula and switching to the P.T. formula. This is a game in really excited for. Why all the hate? People complain about the last few in the franchise, but complain that they are trying something new with part 7? Some people just can't be pleased.

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#63  Edited By dynamitecop
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@iambatman7986 said:

I'm happy they are switching from the tired 4, 5, and 6 formula and switching to the P.T. formula. This is a game in really excited for. Why all the hate? People complain about the last few in the franchise, but complain that they are trying something new with part 7? Some people just can't be pleased.

We don't want new, we want old... We want the roots of Resident Evil, not the roots of survival horror, Capcom completely misread the community, again...

Resident Evil has now devolved to the depths of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes...

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#64 koko-goal
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I strongly believe Capcom wanted the genre of RE7 to be FPS because it's more popular than TPS genre.

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#65 dynamitecop
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@koko-goal said:

I strongly believe Capcom wanted the genre of RE7 to be FPS because it's more popular than TPS genre.

My thoughts as well, again they are following trends.

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#66 SexyJazzCat
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@dynamitecop: That's a whole lotta bullshit you just came up with. Dismissing someones perspective because it doesn't line up with yours. Calling only people who prefer the older games fans, and dismissing everyone else. This whole chain started with me replying to your comment arguing that your comment was misleading. You can continue being the bitter number one resident evil fan. I'll keep an open mind.

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#67  Edited By dynamitecop
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@dynamitecop: That's a whole lotta bullshit you just came up with. Dismissing someones perspective because it doesn't line up with yours. Calling only people who prefer the older games fans, and dismissing everyone else. This whole chain started with me replying to your comment arguing that your comment was misleading. You can continue being the bitter number one resident evil fan. I'll keep an open mind.

There is no perspective, you don't have an argument of any kind, it's a fact that radically changing something beloved into something completely different destroys what it was, it was no longer Resident Evil with the introduction of 4, it became a completely different game. I don't care if what it became was a good game or not, that's not in contention here, what is in contention is it doesn't make it acceptable or even Resident Evil when you change something from the bottom up into something else and still refer to it as Resident Evil.

You act like I'm some lone wolf, go to any Resident Evil 7 video and you'll find countless posts echoing these same sentiments for that game and also people highlighting this, with that game though the difference is so much more pronounced that far more people are bringing it up than they did from Zero to 4. They've taken a continuous series that was unique and great and instead of ending it as some felt it exceeded its shelf life, they've drug it out into three completely different fundamental game designs/concepts that bear no resemblance or real connection to each other. Devil May Cry? Yeah, that's Resident Evil 4's early development if you were unaware, so don't give me this horse shit that they weren't trying to make some radically different game at the time, because they were and they still did, they simply went a different direction with it.

There's nothing positive about that, they could have introduced aliens into Resident Evil 7 and you'd still be sitting here spewing this nonsense of "I'll keep an open mind", it's unconscionable and shows a total lack of integrity or the understanding of continuity. Change needs to be made gradually over time, a natural series of events that invokes change within just like evolution plays out, you don't skip 50 steps and just jump to the end game where something is no longer recognizable, that's absurd and it pisses a lot of people off.

So to you, and the others like you, I don't give two shits what you think, what you think you know or have to say, I really don't, you were not on the ground floor with all of this so you'll never fucking understand any of it for these games, ever. Your brain will never be capable of wrapping itself around any of this for Resident Evil, wait until a franchise you love is destroyed the way Capcom destroyed Resident Evil, then you'll be there exactly where I am for these games.

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#68  Edited By SexyJazzCat
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@dynamitecop: There you go, literally dismissing countless peoples perspective. That's ok. You can be bitter. If RE7 and future RE title manage to be enjoyable, I'll enjoy them for both you and me, since you hold so much more importance in the franchise name instead of the individual game's merit. I haven't gone through what you're experiencing explicitly because I keep an open mind about things. Paper Mario for example. I hated that they changed literally everything with Super Paper Mario. But then I actually played the game, identified all of its redeeming qualities despite the lack of elements which made its predecessors so great, and I enjoyed the game. I still acknowledge it as a fine entry to the franchise despite being drastically different from its predecessors.

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#69 DragonfireXZ95
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@Shmiity said:

Honestly, RE6 was so bad that I'm down for whatever Capcom wants to try. I'll give this game a shot. At least it isn't a Michael Bay Military Porn Explosion Action Movie fuckfest.

Agreed with this. RE6 was just shite, so I'm all up for anything new that they want to attempt.

And, watching the gameplay footage of this new one, it doesn't look all that bad. Gonna give it a shot, because I love horror games.

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#70 PimpHand_Gamer
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@dynamitecop said:
@iambatman7986 said:

I'm happy they are switching from the tired 4, 5, and 6 formula and switching to the P.T. formula. This is a game in really excited for. Why all the hate? People complain about the last few in the franchise, but complain that they are trying something new with part 7? Some people just can't be pleased.

We don't want new, we want old... We want the roots of Resident Evil, not the roots of survival horror, Capcom completely misread the community, again...

Resident Evil has now devolved to the depths of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes...

The remasters and even ports like Code Veronica didn't do all that hot sales wise for them. It's too niche at this point. they are just using the title which in of itself has no other meaning than to say something evil resides here. The RE series you adore is long dead, just forget about them sharing the same title.

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#71 dynamitecop
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@pimphand_gamer said:
@dynamitecop said:
@iambatman7986 said:

I'm happy they are switching from the tired 4, 5, and 6 formula and switching to the P.T. formula. This is a game in really excited for. Why all the hate? People complain about the last few in the franchise, but complain that they are trying something new with part 7? Some people just can't be pleased.

We don't want new, we want old... We want the roots of Resident Evil, not the roots of survival horror, Capcom completely misread the community, again...

Resident Evil has now devolved to the depths of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes...

The remasters and even ports like Code Veronica didn't do all that hot sales wise for them. It's too niche at this point. they are just using the title which in of itself has no other meaning than to say something evil resides here. The RE series you adore is long dead, just forget about them sharing the same title.

Niche is a strong word, all indications point to them selling pretty good actually, 1.2 to 1.3 million each and for 14 year old already released games that's impressive.. You know what hasn't sold over a million? Any of the incarnations of Resident Evil 4 including its Remastered edition...

I get what you're saying, but there is a market there, and a new RE game designed of old could sell well.

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#72 MirkoS77
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Champ Bait: The Topic.

Anyways, that looked like some on-rails game the way they presented it. Can't really gather too much from what I saw. I mean it looks wayyyy better than Doom 4 as a FPS, but that's about it.

That wasn't on rails, it was just snippets of different elements that people have been begging to see.

Looks amazing, can't wait.

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#73 Ballroompirate
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It actually looks worse than RE6

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#74 Mercenary848
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Jesus, IGN and GS are the bigggest game journalism sites but have the most trash video quality.

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#75  Edited By Mercenary848
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Capcom cant win on thois one haha.

Bu bu bu I dont like change

Bu bu bu they always do the same thing

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#76 AnthonyAutumns
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I wasn't even sure if i was watching a Resident Evil trailer or other Horror game in that video.

Or maybe it's those Atmospheric Survival Early Access games like The Long Dark.

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#77  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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Resident Evil

Horizon Zero Dawn

Mass Effect Andromeda

Gravity Rush 2

NieR Automata

Persona 5

Nioh

That is my list in order of most anticipated games for early 2017. Where I am going to find the time to play all of that?! Resident Evil is #1 though and I can't wait to see Milla Jovovich in her final Resident Evil movie the same month.

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Looks great. Definitely feels like it'll be a proper horror game, though right now not sure if it is a RE game or a brand new IP which they were scared would fail on it's own.

Don't get me wrong, I like what I'm seeing, but the cheesiness IS part of the RE franchise, it's part of what makes it RE. What needed to be improved was the quality of the games, which went a bit downhill with 5 and 6 (though mostly 6 IMO). We'll see, maybe they'll figure out some way of bringing it back hehe :P

In any case, looks awesome.

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#79  Edited By AzatiS
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@PSP107 said:

@ghosts4ever:

I didn't hate the demo, but they should stick with the RE 4-6 formula.

Nooooo , are you crazy ?!

That formula of 4-6 destroyed RE franchise big time ! Some of the worse action shooters with horror elements i can think of. RE supposed to be SURVIVAL/horror games not mediocre action horror shooters.

I love that they coming with something else than that broken ass formula of RE4/5/6.

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#80 speedfog
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Nope not gonne watch that. I only saw a short moment of the E3 demo (that won't be included in the full version). Just gonne suprise myself.

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#81 PSP107
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@AzatiS:

From that demo, RE4/5 is better than 7.

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#82 DragonfireXZ95
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@PSP107 said:

@AzatiS:

From that demo, RE4/5 is better than 7.

4 maybe... Definitely not 5. At least in the horror dept. 5 is actually fun if you partner with a friend, but as far as scares go, it's about as scary as five nights at freddy's.

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#83 PSP107
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@DragonfireXZ95: "but as far as scares go, it's about as scary as five nights at freddy's."

What makes 7 scary?

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#84 DragonfireXZ95
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@PSP107 said:

@DragonfireXZ95: "but as far as scares go, it's about as scary as five nights at freddy's."

What makes 7 scary?

What makes it not scary? It already has obscenely dark hallways in an empty house and a regenerator that looks fairly freaky. Definitely more frightening than anything in Resident Evil 5 and 6.

For average people(maybe not us whom enjoy horror games), this is already ten times more frightening with a claustrophobic atmosphere combined with the dread of being alone(no partner like in 5 and 6).

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#85  Edited By AzatiS
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@PSP107 said:

@AzatiS:

From that demo, RE4/5 is better than 7.

I dont know what the final form of RE7 will be and if its any good but Survival/horror with some shooting elements and all >> BAD action/horror shooter.

I wont be surprised if RE7 ends up being way more INTO RE4/5/6 formula than we think in the end

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#86 djura
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I can't wait for this. I think it looks great and holds a lot of promise. I really hope the combat mechanics feel as great as they should.

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#87  Edited By AzatiS
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@PSP107 said:

@AzatiS:

From that demo, RE4/5 is better than 7.

4 maybe... Definitely not 5. At least in the horror dept. 5 is actually fun if you partner with a friend, but as far as scares go, it's about as scary as five nights at freddy's.

4 pushed design and graphics more than anything else , other than that had epic flaws i can talk all day.

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#88 PSP107
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@AzatiS: "i can talk all day."

Go on?

BTW, im not saying 4 and 5 were perfect. But I didn't like the old PS1 Resident Evil games with those bad mechanics and back tracking. 4-5 action pace is better.

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#89  Edited By Jag85
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@dynamitecop said:

Also, Resident Evil 4 was barely survival horror, like 5 & 6 it was predominantly action oriented, it pandered to the Call of Duty generation.

Nope. RE4 was not at all influenced by COD in any way whatsoever.

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#90 dynamitecop
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@Jag85 said:
@dynamitecop said:

Also, Resident Evil 4 was barely survival horror, like 5 & 6 it was predominantly action oriented, it pandered to the Call of Duty generation.

Nope. RE4 was not at all influenced by COD in any way whatsoever.

You need to read sunshine, it PANDERED TO the Call of Duty generation.

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#91 Jag85
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@dynamitecop said:
@Jag85 said:
@dynamitecop said:

Also, Resident Evil 4 was barely survival horror, like 5 & 6 it was predominantly action oriented, it pandered to the Call of Duty generation.

Nope. RE4 was not at all influenced by COD in any way whatsoever.

You need to read sunshine, it PANDERED TO the Call of Duty generation.

Still nope. There was no "Call of Duty generation" back then, whatever that's supposed to mean.

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#92  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@dynamitecop said:
@Jag85 said:
@dynamitecop said:

Also, Resident Evil 4 was barely survival horror, like 5 & 6 it was predominantly action oriented, it pandered to the Call of Duty generation.

Nope. RE4 was not at all influenced by COD in any way whatsoever.

You need to read sunshine, it PANDERED TO the Call of Duty generation.

Resident Evil was going action since Resident Evil 3. Huge increase in zombies, more emphasis on combat.

Resident Evil 4 itself was predated by Dead Aim. And if you like, Resident Evil: Survivor.

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#93  Edited By AzatiS
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@PSP107 said:

@AzatiS: "i can talk all day."

Go on?

BTW, im not saying 4 and 5 were perfect. But I didn't like the old PS1 Resident Evil games with those bad mechanics and back tracking. 4-5 action pace is better.

I will go on but before i do , why the hell when someone judges RE4/5 and 6 for being BAD automatically you calling out previous games ?

RE4 had ... as cheesy voice acting as oldschool games , pathetic AI ( i can talk for this all day too lol , just search videos and laugh your ass ) , broken shooting mechanics ( cant move while aiming ? lol ) , survival elements out ( wasnt RE games all about survival ? ) , enemies DROPPING AMMO ( rofl ) , a merchant out of nowhere was selling guns/ammo , bosses transforming AT WILL back and forth ( wtf ) , lets not talk about STORY ( literally pathetic that even oldschool REs had better , camera angle was bad at times , boss fight mechanics as bad as ever , parasites from outer space scenario was too much in an already zombination world , want me to continue ?

RE4 was the start of downfall for RE series. I was calling it back then , i kept saying the same thing with 5 and gladly i didnt have to do that with 6.

It wasnt RE remake , it wasnt RE1/2/3 or Veronica , IT was RE4 that led to 5 and 5 that led to 6. The same shitty formula , one worse than the other , and then RE series became a "whatever" franchise from " one of a kind " if you get what i mean. But since its all about money , who cares right ? Who cares . So now they trying to bring survival back , something they promised with RE5 and RE6 but never happened.

All they had to do was to stick to ZOMBIES and their original lore , continue the story and find different plots and outcomes ( how this epidemic can be stopped for example ) , stick to damn survival elements big time and ONLY change how game plays in a BETTER way , not one of the same broken crap.

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#94 PSP107
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@AzatiS:

That's alot to tackle. I guess you did "Go on"

Anyway, I would like to addressed

"RE4 was the start of downfall for RE series. I was calling it back then , i kept saying the same thing with 5 and gladly i didnt have to do that with 6."

Can I argue RE4 revitalized the series while introducing new fans? The main problem I had with RE4-5 from a gameplay standpoint is you can't move and shoot.

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#95  Edited By AzatiS
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@PSP107 said:

@AzatiS:

That's alot to tackle. I guess you did "Go on"

Anyway, I would like to addressed

"RE4 was the start of downfall for RE series. I was calling it back then , i kept saying the same thing with 5 and gladly i didnt have to do that with 6."

Can I argue RE4 revitalized the series while introducing new fans? The main problem I had with RE4-5 from a gameplay standpoint is you can't move and shoot.

I get what you mean , i agree , but my opinion is the same as back then , nothing changed. Resident Evil 4 had numerous , tremendous flaws from story to direction to gameplay . If it wasnt for games graphics and overall design that really stand out and kinda were overshadowing the other problems , i dare to say i wouldnt even score it as 8/10 if i was a critic. A 7.5 would be ideal.

And just for the record , i was a die hard RE fan since Day 1 of RE1 for PS1 , i played RE4 day 1 as well on Gamecube and that was when i stopped being a fan , with RE5 being the first RE ever that i couldnt bare to finish and with RE6 , i didnt even bothered.

As time passed , imho , RE4 exposed even if sales were great with RE5 , people started seeing and mention exactly the very same flaws i was seeing in RE4 ( and RE5 ofc ) . Capcom forums were on fire.