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#1 762fullmetal
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I came across an interesting dilema. RE:CV and FF8 were both considered the "lame duck" of their franchises, yet they both had the best story out of any of them. why is this?
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#2 Dibdibdobdobo
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I came across an interesting dilema. RE:CV and FF8 were both considered the "lame duck" of their franchises, yet they both had the best story out of any of them. why is this? 762fullmetal
RE:CV is awesome while FF8 was kinda boring. So no. Nothing alike.
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#3 Giancar
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Re5 = FFXIII = lame ducks
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#4 campzor
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[QUOTE="762fullmetal"]I came across an interesting dilema. RE:CV and FF8 were both considered the "lame duck" of their franchises, yet they both had the best story out of any of them. why is this?

ffx had a better story
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#5 ArisShadows
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Re5 = FFXIII = lame ducksGiancar
Change that to RE4.
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#6 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]Re5 = FFXIII = lame ducksArisShadows
Change that to RE4.

RE5 = RE4 = Lame ducks?! RE4 is a good game unlike its sequel which was boring from start to end.
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#7 gameofthering
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Code veronica is the best.

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#8 hakanakumono
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The premise of CV's story makes no sense imo.

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#9 travisstaggs
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Actually Code Veronica was praised for its story when first came out.

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#10 Dibdibdobdobo
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Code veronica is the best.

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If steve died sooner rather than later. He was annoying as hell. "OMG my dads a Zombie, WAH, WAH", "I've been kidnapped for handing out secrets, WAh, WAH"
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#11 fend_oblivion
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I came across an interesting dilema. RE:CV and FF8 were both considered the "lame duck" of their franchises, yet they both had the best story out of any of them. why is this? 762fullmetal

The gameplay. CV had decent gameplay but FF 8... I tried playing it a while ago and I was massively overpowered by playing Triple Triad. Not to mention the annoying Junction system.

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#12 Ballroompirate
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Ummm do you realise RE:CV was like one of the best Dreamcast games

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#13 Dibdibdobdobo
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Ummm do you realise RE:CV was like one of the best Dreamcast games

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and PS2 games and Gamecube too.
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#14 Twin-Blade
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Can't speak for Code Veronica but FF8 is my favourite FF title. Haven't got far into 7 or 9 though, but they seemed awesome.

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#15 PAL360
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Why would i consider Code Veronica the `lame duck` of the franchise? It´s my favourite game of the series.

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#16 762fullmetal
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Why would i consider Code Veronica the `lame duck` of the franchise? It´s my favourite game of the series.

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it's my favorite too, but when you look in retrospect at what RE fans thought of each RE game, Code Veronica was the least played & least publisized. Back in 2000, RE2 was the King according to most fans, then RE4 in 2005. I personally think, RE:CV > RE3 > RE2 > RE1 > RE 0, why RE3 was better than 2 is a personal choice, but I felt that even though you had more ammo in RE3, Nemesis balanced that out, and the way he came out of cornors was just crazy. RE3 was more survival horror than RE2 in that respect, you had to conserve your herbs just because Nemesis might pop out of the corner.
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Personally , I thought FF8 was the best, best story , best characters.
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#18 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Why would i consider Code Veronica the `lame duck` of the franchise? It´s my favourite game of the series.

762fullmetal

it's my favorite too, but when you look in retrospect at what RE fans thought of each RE game, Code Veronica was the least played & least publisized. Back in 2000, RE2 was the King according to most fans, then RE4 in 2005. I personally think, RE:CV > RE3 > RE2 > RE1 > RE 0, why RE3 was better than 2 is a personal choice, but I felt that even though you had more ammo in RE3, Nemesis balanced that out, and the way he came out of cornors was just crazy. RE3 was more survival horror than RE2 in that respect, you had to conserve your herbs just because Nemesis might pop out of the corner.

Yeah, im also one of the few that prefer RES3 over 2.

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#19 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Giancar"]Re5 = FFXIII = lame ducksDibdibdobdobo
Change that to RE4.

RE5 = RE4 = Lame ducks?! RE4 is a good game unlike its sequel which was boring from start to end.

RE5>RE4.

maybe you shouldnt be playing co op games solo.

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#20 pelvist
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I thaught code veronica was one the better RE games, certainly much better than the last two which I couldnt even be bothered to finish. Also FFVIII is my 2nd favorite FF game. (FFVII being my first)

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#21 762fullmetal
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RE4 actually had the worst story in the franchise, saving the president's daughter from parasites is not what RE was all about. In fact the only reason why Leon Kennedy was cool in the first place, was because he was a "Rookie" cop stuck in a survival horror situation. RE4 was basically the opposite. RE4's monsters were like cartoon characters. You see, what made Nemesis cool in RE3 wasn't because he was 100 feet tall (which he wasn't), it's because he was unique. A 100 foot rock monster isn't unique, and that was a big reason reason why I didn't like RE4, aside from collecting pots of gold/story
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#22 mythrol
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[QUOTE="762fullmetal"]I came across an interesting dilema. RE:CV and FF8 were both considered the "lame duck" of their franchises, yet they both had the best story out of any of them. why is this?

Wut? 2000 is calling. It wants it's thread back.
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#23 omho88
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

Code veronica is the best.

If steve died sooner rather than later. He was annoying as hell. "OMG my dads a Zombie, WAH, WAH", "I've been kidnapped for handing out secrets, WAh, WAH"

Actually his death is one of the strongest points in the game imo, and he was cool, i hoped he would make an appearnce in RE5. On topic: Both were great games. FFXIII=RE5= lame duck like some other poster said.
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#24 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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I love FF8, but I think FF9 has a better story and characters.

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#25 BZSIN
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If steve died sooner rather than later. He was annoying as hell. "OMG my dads a Zombie, WAH, WAH", "I've been kidnapped for handing out secrets, WAh, WAH"Dibdibdobdobo

Haha. I love CV, but Steve really did annoy the hell out of me, and I was pretty happy when I didn't have to listen to him anymore.

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#26 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"] Change that to RE4.warmaster670

RE5 = RE4 = Lame ducks?! RE4 is a good game unlike its sequel which was boring from start to end.

RE5>RE4.

maybe you shouldnt be playing co op games solo.

Finished it on release date with my friends around his house on the PS3 and rebrought it upon my 360 for £10 several months afterwardsand got to the part when you have to run on the conveyor belt with Petrol Cannisters and never bothered to play it again in single player. It wasnt that great in Multi-player nor in Solo play, Bosses where boring, enemies where boring, AI was dreadful, No puzzles, Boring characters.

Next time you shouldnt assume anything.

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#27 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="gameofthering"]

Code veronica is the best.

omho88
If steve died sooner rather than later. He was annoying as hell. "OMG my dads a Zombie, WAH, WAH", "I've been kidnapped for handing out secrets, WAh, WAH"

Actually his death is one of the strongest points in the game imo, and he was cool, i hoped he would make an appearnce in RE5. On topic: Both were great games. FFXIII=RE5= lame duck like some other poster said.

I prefer Rebecca from 0 and 1 to Steve. Though i think 0 is the most under-rated Resident Evil game of the lot.
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#28 Santesyu
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Ummm do you realise RE:CV was like one of the best Dreamcast games

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yeah it really was .
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#29 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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I didn't think FF8 was lame. I enjoyed it, though the Draw system was terrible. Also didn't like the card mini game, which was basically mandatory if you really wanted to power up your guys =_=
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#30 Dibdibdobdobo
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I didn't think FF8 was lame. I enjoyed it, though the Draw system was terrible. Also didn't like the card mini game, which was basically mandatory if you really wanted to power up your guys =_=siLVURcross
That was the highlight for me in the whole FF8 game was the Card Mini Game lol.
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#31 OrianaDorta
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Personally , I thought FF8 was the best, best story , best characters.scottiescott238

and best music.

I love RE:CV and FF8, also FF8 is my favorite of all.

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#32 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="762fullmetal"]I came across an interesting dilema. RE:CV and FF8 were both considered the "lame duck" of their franchises, yet they both had the best story out of any of them. why is this?

what the hell are you talking about??? both RECV and FF8 are some of the most loved and best games in their franchises... pls change it to RE5 and FFXIII
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#33 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]I didn't think FF8 was lame. I enjoyed it, though the Draw system was terrible. Also didn't like the card mini game, which was basically mandatory if you really wanted to power up your guys =_=

the card game is required to power up your characters??? Im sorry but im currently playing the game for THE FIRST TIME im on disc 2 already and I never try to play that stupid game because its sooo weird and I always lose...but is it really necessary to power up your chars??? I thought that the GF took care of that
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#34 bbkkristian
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Final Fantasy VIII on my top 10 favorite games! It had excellent character development and a touching story. 10/10. I could live with just that game. :P and the music was astounding and those amazing cutscene graphics, it makes me ignore the fact that I'm playing a PS1 game. :D
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#35 Gue1
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Personally , I thought FF8 was the best, best story , best characters.scottiescott238

The Story of FFVIII was good but it had 2 horrible plot devices and part ofone ofthoseplot devices is that all the characters come from the same place and have exactly the same backgroundwhich instantlymakes them lame. I could go into details but everything would be a megahuge spoiler.

But honestly, FFVIII had the best music, best character design, best graphics of the 3 FF games on the PS1. People that hate the junction system is simply because they don't understand it. The Junction systemand overall battle system was great too cus it made the game's pace faster cus you didn't have to fight every random battle to be prepared for the next boss battle. Another thing is that FFVIII has the deepest customization of any FF game ever... You could make any character excel at any of the abilities you wanted to.

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#36 slothboyadvance
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What?! Final Fantasy VIII did not have a good story by any means. The only memorable parts of the story were the most laughable parts like:
[spoiler] When all of the main characters had amnesia and forgot they all lived together in the same orphanage... with the Sorceress as their guardian. [/spoiler]
[spoiler] When Squall and Rinoa were floating in space and conveniently floated to a giant spaceship because there was no feasible way to get them out of that scenario. [/spoiler]
The whole story was based around crazy ass events that amounted to nothing more than plot convenience.

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#37 jasonharris48
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Wasn't RE:CV considered one of the best RE titles next to RE2? Also FFVIII was awesome was of the best in the franchise. If anything RE5 (and or RE Zero) and FFXIII are the lame ducks of the franchises.

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#38 lbjkurono23
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RE:CV was one of the best RE tittles :|
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#39 Renzokucant
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finally fantasy 8 was amazing.. that is all
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#40 lightleggy
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Wasn't RE:CV considered one of the best RE titles next to RE2? Also FFVIII was awesome was of the best in the franchise. If anything RE5 (and or RE Zero) and FFXIII are the lame ducks of the franchises.

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that is what I said, seriously I dont have any idea where does TC takes his "arguments" from
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#41 madsnakehhh
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RE:CV it's an amazing game, FF8 it's also an amazing game and my favorite FF.

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#42 g0ddyX
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FF8 is my favourite final fantasy game and Code veronica is my favourite resident evil game.

woah.Brings back memories... :(

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#43 Dahaka-UK
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I really have no idea where topic creator is getting his sources from but last I played. CV is one of the best damn Resident Evil games ever.

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#44 Kori-san
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Code Veronica was just awesome. Especially when it came as a demo with DMC1 (back when games we're actually good). FF8 is trash compared to 7 but I used to enjoy 8 alot.

However the more I played 8 the more I disliked it because the card system, drawing, and many other crappy features.

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#45 Jipset
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Code Veronica is highly praised, actually.

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#46 archvile_78
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Can't speak for RECV but i gotta agree with FF8, not going as far as to say its the worst FF (looking at you X-2) but yeah...

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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

Wasn't RE:CV considered one of the best RE titles next to RE2? Also FFVIII was awesome was of the best in the franchise. If anything RE5 (and or RE Zero) and FFXIII are the lame ducks of the franchises.

lightleggy

that is what I said, seriously I dont have any idea where does TC takes his "arguments" from

I know right? lol THe only problem I had with RECV was the backtracking (which isn't a huge thing) and FFVIII the junction system it can make the game far too easy if you knew how to use it.

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#48 VendettaRed07
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if by lame duck you mean underrated and clearly better than the games in the series that came before it than yeah totally.

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#49 glez13
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Code Veronica is probably my favorite Resident Evil game, and Final Fantasy 8 is my favorite aswell. Many feel the same about CV and FF VIII is clearly among the fan favorites. I don't see how they are the ugly ducks.

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#50 godzillavskong
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I simply loved RECV on my Dreamcast, and I still give it a occasional boot up every now and then. Code Veronica is in no way a lame duck in my personal opinion. I might just play it tomorrow just because of this topic!!