Resident Evil Code:Veronica is BETTER than Resident EVil 4, and ALL other RE's

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#1 springz300
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Resident Evil 4.

No T Virus

No Umbrella Corp

Not Scary

No Zombies

Too Arcadey

Too easy..

Imo, Code Veronica was the best resident evil game capcom ever made. If you've ever played it, which im sure most of you havent, you'd probably agree with me.

let me hear your opinion

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#2 Blackbond
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Gameplay > then all that other stuff. RE4 is the best game clearly in the series. High ratings and GOTY are enough to prove this.
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#3 JiveT
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I thought Code Name:V had a much more chilling interesting story than any of the other ones with the weird stuff going on between the Umbrella royal family or whatever. It was also the hardest game in the series at least for the Dreamcast version. You really had to conserve ammo to beat that first boss.
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#4 Tnasty11
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RE4
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#5 springz300
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Gameplay > then all that other stuff. RE4 is the best game clearly in the series. High ratings and GOTY are enough to prove this.Blackbond

those are all other people's opinions. but i see what you're saying.

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#6 jetthrovegas
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I have played it, and I disagree with you.. strongly. REmake and RE4 are WAAYYY better than Code: Veronica.

Dissing on RE4 for being to "arcadey" is stupid. That game is simply one of the best games ever made.

It is intense, beautiful, lengthy, action packed, and it features absolutely amazing boss battles.

Just because it doesn't stick to the "traditions" of RE doesn't mean anything.

Alot of RE's traditions were ****ing stupid.

RE4 is a masterpiece; if you "RE traditionalists" would pull your heads out of your past-obsessed collective arse, you might realize that.

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#7 springz300
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I didnt really like the direction resident evil 4 went with the 3rd person, over the shoulder look.

and with no zombies.

that took away the scary experience. .. hence, why i think veronica is better. because its not just about the "gameplay" to me .... atmosphere plays a part

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#8 Blackbond
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I didnt really like the direction resident evil 4 went with the 3rd person, over the shoulder look.

and with no zombies.

that took away the scary experience. .. hence, why i think veronica is better. because its not just about the "gameplay" to me .... atmosphere plays a part

springz300

Regardless of which its gameplay was superior. We play games for gameplay and RE4's was great enough to earn GOTY. I don't care that they changed the core game because in the end it was a better game.

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#9 4Swords
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I liked the fact that they had gone away from that seen-a-million-times-before zombie thing and (Spoiler?) bombed Raccoon City to get it over with. They also made it a lot more interesting with the faster pace than the other games.
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#10 voxware00
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still stuck in it

re used to be one of those games id love to watch my friends play but couldnt play it myself

re4 i was finally able to beat a re game myself

i remember trying to entice my friend to come over and beat the tyrant at the end of disc 1

last we left off... we were running away from that beast thing with the axe as leon

and my friend moved away so... i tried taking his place but.. i still can't play the older re games myself

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#11 buuzer0
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I liked code veronica, but one thing bothered me:

What was up with the reduced gore? In every other RE game, when you head shot a zombie, you get a bunch of gore, followed by a missing zombie head.

In Code Veronica, you got the spray of gore, as if you got the headshot, and the zombie died... but it still had its head?

What's up with that?

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#12 TyrantDragon55
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To a hardcore Resident Evil fan possibly, the thing that made RE4 so incredible is that it managed to appeal to more than just already established RE fans.
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#13 thegame27_basic
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To say RE4 sucked is far from a way of describing it. Granted I prefered the stories of the past games and the whole Zombie thing, but RE4 fixed all the control issues. I didn't feel that when I died it wasn't due to me not being able to move. RE4 hit the camera and controls to perfect the series. Hopefully with 5, even though there are no zombies we will see storylines that are heavily influenced with the earlier games. With Wesker and Chris most likely meeting again, we are in for a great storyline.
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#14 springz300
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[QUOTE="springz300"]

I didnt really like the direction resident evil 4 went with the 3rd person, over the shoulder look.

and with no zombies.

that took away the scary experience. .. hence, why i think veronica is better. because its not just about the "gameplay" to me .... atmosphere plays a part

Blackbond

Regardless of which its gameplay was superior. We play games for gameplay and RE4's was great enough to earn GOTY. I don't care that they changed the core game because in the end it was a better game.

it only outscored veronica by .2
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#15 Sir-Marwin105
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I guess, it's just personal preference, but I find the whole series overrated. RE4 was good, but overrated.
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#16 Hoffgod
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Verionica? You have got to be kidding me. The gameplay was convoluted Resident Evil at it's best, the tank controls suck as always, it never felt as atmospheric or threatening as either RE4 or the REmake, and then there's this guy: Hate you so much, Steve.
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#17 sadikovic
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Thank you some that feels the same way as me!

RE4 is a brilliant game!...But its not what made me love resident evil IMO the link below would have been the perfect RE4:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo_hMbJQeU4

mmmmm it reaks of horror and atmosphere!

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#18 NAPK1NS
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No way man, REmake is the best RE game. Man, it's so good.
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I agree and disagree. Yeah, RE4 had a faulty storyline that didnt manage to tie together with the previous incarnations but Resident Evil didnt have much of an masterpiece story anyway. Also RE4 had absolutely no horror elements compared to the last iterations such as the sick and twisted part of Alexia's Umbrella corporation or Spencer's Mansion. Code Veronica was probably the hardest Resident Evil simply because of it's idiotic item management like when you had to make an certain character transition which you would have NO idea that was going to happen and you would get screwed simply because of the lack of powerful weapons.

Now with that aside, the Resident Evil incarnations has simply gotten stale. The gameplay made you control everyone like a stiff tank which only added to the horror because you were forced to watch your character with an obscure camera system which Resident Evil 4 managed to fix. Difficulty? Sure, it's easier to say that RE4 was pretty easy because it actually had an checkpoint system and unlimited saves unlike the previous Resident Evil but thats probably because RE4 was aimed to a new audience. As a big fan of Resident Evil, I would look at RE4 as a godsend to a series that just would have eventually died out not something that ruined it.

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#20 AFBrat77
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I'd give the edge to RE4......but not by much.

And i agree CVX is a great game, but 2nd best only to RE4 in a close race.

CVX = most ignored RE, which is a crime. Thats probably because it doesnt have a number after it.

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#21 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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REC:V was incredible....but...

RE4 was the best in the series, imo. The series seriously and desperately needed a severe OVERHAUL. And RE4 is practically the NEW TURN of the series.

RE2 was SECOND best, imo, simply because it was the DIRECT prequel to RE4.

RE5 will just simply build from RE4 and get better (HD graphics, better AI and bigger environments, etc)

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#22 Zero_Fate_
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Oh wait and also to give a blow to your statement, RE2 was my favorite Resident Evil. RE3 being my most hated.
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#23 AFBrat77
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Verionica? You have got to be kidding me. The gameplay was convoluted Resident Evil at it's best, the tank controls suck as always, it never felt as atmospheric or threatening as either RE4 or the REmake, and then there's this guy: Hate you so much, Steve.Hoffgod

I disagree, Veronica was a better challenge, had a better story, and more memorable Boss battles than most any RE game to date. The original RE (or REmake) was scarier thanks to Lisa Trevor, but Veronica was better in most all the other important categories.

Also, Veronica X had one of the best game intros ever, not to mention a great ending battle (both the Boss battle and the encounter with ***SPOILER!!!!*** Wesker).

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#24 numba1234
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I'm going to agree, the dreamcast re code veronica is much better then re4. I actually think that re4 is the worst re game (besides bad ports and re online), and don't give me the garbage that re4 was goty, because gta 3, and halo ce was the same year that RE: code veronica came out. It got similar reviews to RE4

http://gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/250618.asp

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#25 walkerctranger
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re2 is better.
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#26 Grant_Guy
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Nope sorry
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re2 is better.
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#28 Zero_Fate_
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REC:V was incredible....but...

RE4 was the best in the series, imo. The series seriously and desperately needed a severe OVERHAUL. And RE4 is practically the NEW TURN of the series.

RE2 was SECOND best, imo, simply because it was the DIRECT prequel to RE4.

RE5 will just simply build from RE4 and get better (HD graphics, better AI and bigger environments, etc)

VERTIGO47

What are you talking about? The storyline follows like this
Resident Evil 0 - RE1/REmake - RE2 - RE3 - RE:CV/RE:CVX - RE4.

If you played the game then you would obvioulsy know that after CVX, RE4 takes place. Not RE2 to RE4.

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#29 bulletmath
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remake destroys code veronica
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#30 casey7672
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I liked RE 1,2,3,4 and Code Veronica, but no others.
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#31 buuzer0
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Seriously, what was up with the non-exploding zombie heads in Code Veronica? I need answers!
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="springz300"]

I didnt really like the direction resident evil 4 went with the 3rd person, over the shoulder look.

and with no zombies.

that took away the scary experience. .. hence, why i think veronica is better. because its not just about the "gameplay" to me .... atmosphere plays a part

springz300

Regardless of which its gameplay was superior. We play games for gameplay and RE4's was great enough to earn GOTY. I don't care that they changed the core game because in the end it was a better game.

it only outscored veronica by .2

Different standards. The same score today is worth a lot more than it was years ago.

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#33 Game_Addict247
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Seriously, what was up with the non-exploding zombie heads in Code Veronica? I need answers!buuzer0

I may be wrong, but I think several versions of the game censored exploding heads, while the others kept that intact.

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#34 SuperMario_46
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For me its like this:

RE4> REmake> RE2 > RE3 > RE1 > RE :CV X

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#35 Nin360
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I think the story in code veronica was better but the gameplay in RE 4 was miles ahead of it.
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[QUOTE="springz300"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="springz300"]

I didnt really like the direction resident evil 4 went with the 3rd person, over the shoulder look.

and with no zombies.

that took away the scary experience. .. hence, why i think veronica is better. because its not just about the "gameplay" to me .... atmosphere plays a part

Coldplay07

Regardless of which its gameplay was superior. We play games for gameplay and RE4's was great enough to earn GOTY. I don't care that they changed the core game because in the end it was a better game.

it only outscored veronica by .2

Different standards. The same score today is worth a lot more than it was years ago.

Exactly. For proof, see the RE:CV Gamecube score here. 6.9 by 2003 standards, apparently.

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#37 ni6htmare01
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Resident Evil 4.

No T Virus

No Umbrella Corp

Not Scary

No Zombies

Too Arcadey

Too easy..

Imo, Code Veronica was the best resident evil game capcom ever made. If you've ever played it, which im sure most of you havent, you'd probably agree with me.

let me hear your opinion

springz300

I agreed! I like RE CV the best!

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#38 6matt6
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i think it goes like this.

RE 1>RE 2>>RE:CV>>RE 4>>RE 3

never played the two gamecube RE's. Although weskers apearance in CV was one of my fav video game moments EVER.

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[QUOTE="springz300"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="springz300"]

I didnt really like the direction resident evil 4 went with the 3rd person, over the shoulder look.

and with no zombies.

that took away the scary experience. .. hence, why i think veronica is better. because its not just about the "gameplay" to me .... atmosphere plays a part

Coldplay07

Regardless of which its gameplay was superior. We play games for gameplay and RE4's was great enough to earn GOTY. I don't care that they changed the core game because in the end it was a better game.

it only outscored veronica by .2

Different standards. The same score today is worth a lot more than it was years ago.

Which is why by 2003, RE:CVX for the Gamecube scored an 6.9.

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[QUOTE="springz300"]

I didnt really like the direction resident evil 4 went with the 3rd person, over the shoulder look.

and with no zombies.

that took away the scary experience. .. hence, why i think veronica is better. because its not just about the "gameplay" to me .... atmosphere plays a part

Blackbond

Regardless of which its gameplay was superior. We play games for gameplay and RE4's was great enough to earn GOTY. I don't care that they changed the core game because in the end it was a better game.

See this is why gaming sucks now. People only pay attention to how a game presents itself instead of how it acutally plays.

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#42 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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Resident Evil 4.

No T Virus

No Umbrella Corp

Not Scary

No Zombies

Too Arcadey

Too easy..

Imo, Code Veronica was the best resident evil game capcom ever made. If you've ever played it, which im sure most of you havent, you'd probably agree with me.

let me hear your opinion

springz300

I have played and beaten every RE game that has come out. I love RE...and RE: Code Veronica, while being very good, is still highly over rated. I would much rather go back and play RE4 (for the 5th time), RE2 or RE3 than play Code Veronica again. The bosses were cheap and relied less on skill than how many health herbs you carried, the item swapping created more problems that benefits, way too much backtracking, etc.

Code Veronica was certainly the shot in the arm the game needed in terms of story and gameplay. However, I think it is more hype than actual respect keeping this game in people's minds. I add it to the growing list of games that people worship more because they think it's cool to name drop them as opposed to actually loving the game itself.

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Anyway, there were two things I didn't like about Code Veronica.

1) It removed the dodging feature from RE3.

2) It had an opportunity to change the series' main setbacks, but didn't.Pre-rendered backgrounds wereunderstandable on the PS1 games because everything else would have looked like crap due to the system's weak graphics. But CV had fully polygonal backgrounds (evidenced by a moving/rotating camera), and a first-person view for some of the weapons, indicating that CV could've gone with a more usable, RE4-style camera. Instead Capcom stuck with the traditions that clearly needed change.

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#44 6matt6
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[QUOTE="springz300"]

Resident Evil 4.

No T Virus

No Umbrella Corp

Not Scary

No Zombies

Too Arcadey

Too easy..

Imo, Code Veronica was the best resident evil game capcom ever made. If you've ever played it, which im sure most of you havent, you'd probably agree with me.

let me hear your opinion

ZIMdoom

I have played and beaten every RE game that has come out. I love RE...and RE: Code Veronica, while being very good, is still highly over rated. I would much rather go back and play RE4 (for the 5th time), RE2 or RE3 than play Code Veronica again. The bosses were cheap and relied less on skill than how many health herbs you carried, the item swapping created more problems that benefits, way too much backtracking, etc.

Code Veronica was certainly the shot in the arm the game needed in terms of story and gameplay. However, I think it is more hype than actual respect keeping this game in people's minds. I add it to the growing list of games that people worship more because they think it's cool to name drop them as opposed to actually loving the game itself.

i agree.

CV's story was by far the best(at the time) but the gameplay wasnt exactly amazing.

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#45 winner-ps3
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yeah i think code veronica wa the best too!
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Anyway, there were two things I didn't like about Code Veronica.

1) It removed the dodging feature from RE3.

2) It had an opportunity to change the series' main setbacks, but didn't.Pre-rendered backgrounds wereunderstandable on the PS1 games because everything else would have looked like crap due to the system's weak graphics. But CV had fully polygonal backgrounds (evidenced by a moving/rotating camera), and a first-person view for some of the weapons, indicating that CV could've gone with a more usable, RE4-style camera. Instead Capcom stuck with the traditions that clearly needed change.

Game_Addict247

To think that Devil May Cry was going to be RE4.

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#47 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Well, I think most of you are forgetting that Code Veronica scored a 9.5... which is only .1 away from RE4's score. It's arguable.
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#48 Zero_Fate_
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Well, I think most of you are forgetting that Code Veronica scored a 9.5... which is only .1 away from RE4's score. It's arguable.REVOLUTIONfreak

Code Veronica Xscored an 9.2 and then finally a 6.9.Gamespot knew thatthe game didnt stand against the test of time well.

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#49 SkyRaid
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While I too lament at the loss of some the series' standards.

The gameplay of RE4 was incredible. They should remake all the others with the same over the shoulder view, albeit make zombies a little harder since if you could actually aim, they suck hardcore. Half the challenge of the original games was simply camera angle.
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#50 ganon546
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Nope. I have to go with RE4.