Resistance 3 flops in the US, first month sales revealed.

I'm glad it sold poorly. We have too many first person shooters saturating the market today. Maybe this is a sign of the times for a stagnant fps genre?

I'm glad it sold poorly. We have too many first person shooters saturating the market today. Maybe this is a sign of the times for a stagnant fps genre?

Bigboi500

No, it's just a sign that generally speaking of course, people buy the big names.

To everybody saying not to worry, and that it will sell in the long run:

it's time to worry. If a FPS game doesn't sell well initially in the U.S., on consoles, then something is very wrong.

To everybody saying not to worry, and that it will sell in the long run:

it's time to worry. If a FPS game doesn't sell well initially in the U.S., on consoles, then something is very wrong.

SHATT3R3D-GLASS

Is it a bad thing if devs have to try something new in order to sell well?

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

I dont think its that much a matter of budget and advertising, the point is we are talking about NA sales and 360 just happens to be sort of domestic in north America so its games have better sales there.

KC_Hokie

The SP of the game is good, not great, and the MP is broken garbage. The quality of the game makes me feel that Insomniac phoned it in to finish the seires, and Sony was perfectly okay with that because 2 sold worse than 1 despite have excellent production values and highly supported online modes.

I give the game a 7.0/10, and recommend renting at most.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] Oh yeah... For a second i forgot US has more Xboxs than PS3's :lol: Also TC how can a game flop due to sales? Flops are based on hype and scores, not sales but apparently you feel that sales are much more interesting than the game?JohnF111

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You've been on SW way too long if you think flops are limited to hype and scores. KC_Hokie

How do you know how big the budget was?

I bet the budget wasn't that big for the game, as it certainly feels like a budget title.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] It maybe a flop in the eyes of Insomniac or Sony but the consumers? It's a terrible way to label a game a flop, if flop is now being used as a general term for "under-performing" then yeah it "flopped".

Pug-Nasty

How do you know how big the budget was?

I bet the budget wasn't that big for the game, as it certainly feels like a budget title.

Its deserved instead of completely refining the awesome that was resistance 2 they changed it up again tried to make it like that crap that was resistance 1.

WilliamRLBaker

Resistance 1 was a much better game than resistance 2 in every sense of the word, it had coop campaign, health packs and resembled the old school shooters of the Pre cod Modern Warfare era, at some points it even reminded me of Half Life. Neither game stands out in the genre but R1 was better.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You've been on SW way too long if you think flops are limited to hype and scores. KC_Hokie

Sony barely adertised it, other then the blue ray demo that almost no one knew about and the ad that was on tv around 1:30am and only went on few about 2 weeks.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] It maybe a flop in the eyes of Insomniac or Sony but the consumers? It's a terrible way to label a game a flop, if flop is now being used as a general term for "under-performing" then yeah it "flopped".

eboyishere

Sony barely adertised it, other then the blue ray demo that almost no one knew about and the ad that was on tv around 1:30am and only went on few about 2 weeks.

Im glad that generic shooters are selling less

Maybe they try something new next time

Zurrur

I wouldnt exactly call R3 generic. But it is not innovative either.

It avoids many of the typical Shooter tropes such as cover based shooting, health regeneration and 2 or 4 weapon limits.

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The game had a AAA budget and Sony has been advertising for it like made. It's a flop based on sales.KC_Hokie

How do you know how big the budget was?

I bet the budget wasn't that big for the game, as it certainly feels like a budget title.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The game had a AAA budget and Sony has been advertising for it like made. It's a flop based on sales.KC_Hokie

Sony barely adertised it, other then the blue ray demo that almost no one knew about and the ad that was on tv around 1:30am and only went on few about 2 weeks.

honestly i havent seen the KB commercial alot, i know what your talking about but it wasnt exactly adertised alot, especially compared to gears.

I really hope some people dont try to use this to determine the quality of the game. Sales have no meaning when it comes to quality.

I really hope some people dont try to use this to determine the quality of the game. Sales have no meaning when it comes to quality.

finalfantasy94

Sad :( Apparently they did a good job too. Well its a competitve season. MAybe it'll have legs

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

How do you know how big the budget was?

I bet the budget wasn't that big for the game, as it certainly feels like a budget title.

JohnF111

I really hope some people dont try to use this to determine the quality of the game. Sales have no meaning when it comes to quality.

finalfantasy94

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

Sony barely adertised it, other then the blue ray demo that almost no one knew about and the ad that was on tv around 1:30am and only went on few about 2 weeks.

eboyishere

honestly i havent seen the KB commercial alot, i know what your talking about but it wasnt exactly adertised alot, especially compared to gears.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]So now Resistance 3 isn't a AAA budget game? Really?KC_Hokie

Anecdotal evidence is terrible. Anybody using how many times they saw or did not see a commercial to judge whether it was advertised a lot or not please stop now. Its soo useless and not an indication of anything at all.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Yes because clearly he said "The game WAS NOT a AA budget game, i know this for a FACT!!" :roll: - He said he bets it wasn't a big budget game and asked you how you knew it was a AAA budget game, why are you twisting his words in a defensive manner?JohnF111

Anecdotal evidence is terrible. Anybody using how many times they saw or did not see a commercial to judge whether it was advertised a lot or not please stop now. Its soo useless and not an indication of anything at all.

ActicEdge

So they spent at least a few million on advertising. And that's being extremely conservative.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]During E3 the developers never corrected anyone when it was called a AAA budget game. It doesn't take much to have a AAA budget. The range is broad from like $20 million to 100+ million. And I highly doubt Resistance 3 had a budget of only a few million.

KC_Hokie

Sony's investors are not concerned with the performance of one game, as Sony is a very large company with many different subdivisions. Overall performance is what is important to investors, and in this case, the overall performance of their game division is what is important. The performance of Resistance 3 doesn't matter, because they aren't going to make any more anyway.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] I guess we may never know the cost of the games development and the income it is generating.Pug-Nasty

Sony's investors are not concerned with the performance of one game, as Sony is a very large company with many different subdivisions. Overall performance is what is important to investors, and in this case, the overall performance of their game division is what is important. The performance of Resistance 3 doesn't matter, because they aren't going to make any more anyway.

It happens daily to companies publicly traded. Do you follow the stock market?

By keeping everything quiet they avoided that.

i find it funny when a big console game flops its always due to something, poor marketing etc

but as soon as a PC game flops its instantly piracy, always

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Anecdotal evidence is terrible. Anybody using how many times they saw or did not see a commercial to judge whether it was advertised a lot or not please stop now. Its soo useless and not an indication of anything at all.

KC_Hokie

So they spent at least a few million on advertising. And that's being extremely conservative.

You don't know that. I'm sorry, I don't care how accurate you think you are being, how many times you see a commercial is not a direct correleation to how much money they spent. You could never and will never know that and how many times you see a commercial is not an idication of "good" advertising. Please stop this fallacy, I don't care whether its resistance or Cod, unless they tell you YOU DON'T KNOW and circumstantial evidence from a sample of forum dwellers is not proof of anything. If you think it is you are siding against logic.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Its deserved instead of completely refining the awesome that was resistance 2 they changed it up again tried to make it like that crap that was resistance 1.

AgentA-Mi6

Resistance 1 was a much better game than resistance 2 in every sense of the word, it had coop campaign, health packs and resembled the old school shooters of the Pre cod Modern Warfare era, at some points it even reminded me of Half Life. Neither game stands out in the genre but R1 was better.

*laughs* it was a horrible copy of half life thats the problem it had n64 graphics lame AI that you could run past and never have to fight even on its hardest difficulties. Health packs aren't anymore realistic or fun then renegerating health, its story was inaneits main character was another useless mute that added nothign to the story.

Resistace 2 looked better, played better, had a better story didn't have a lame mute main character and had generally far better online multiplayer.
There is a reason FPS games evolved beyond weapon wheels carrying every weapon in the game, mute main characters with no personality because those game ideas are old and in todays world aren't good at all.

I would buy resistance 3 for 5.00 dollars but not a penny more. Not worth it.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Anecdotal evidence is terrible. Anybody using how many times they saw or did not see a commercial to judge whether it was advertised a lot or not please stop now. Its soo useless and not an indication of anything at all.

ActicEdge

So they spent at least a few million on advertising. And that's being extremely conservative.

You don't know that. I'm sorry, I don't care how accurate you think you are being, how many times you see a commercial is not a direct correleation to how much money they spent. You could never and will never know that and how many times you see a commercial is not an idication of "good" advertising. Please stop this fallacy, I don't care whether its resistance or Cod, unless they tell you YOU DON'T KNOW and circumstantial evidence from a sample of forum dwellers is not proof of anything. If you think it is you are siding against logic.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Its deserved instead of completely refining the awesome that was resistance 2 they changed it up again tried to make it like that crap that was resistance 1.

WilliamRLBaker

Resistance 1 was a much better game than resistance 2 in every sense of the word, it had coop campaign, health packs and resembled the old school shooters of the Pre cod Modern Warfare era, at some points it even reminded me of Half Life. Neither game stands out in the genre but R1 was better.

*laughs* it was a horrible copy of half life thats the problem it had n64 graphics lame AI that you could run past and never have to fight even on its hardest difficulties. Health packs aren't anymore realistic or fun then renegerating health, its story was inaneits main character was another useless mute that added nothign to the story.

Resistace 2 looked better, played better, had a better story didn't have a lame mute main character and had generally far better online multiplayer.

Cosign, liked Resistance 2 alot more then 1. I have not played much of part 3 though.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Its deserved instead of completely refining the awesome that was resistance 2 they changed it up again tried to make it like that crap that was resistance 1.

WilliamRLBaker

Resistance 1 was a much better game than resistance 2 in every sense of the word, it had coop campaign, health packs and resembled the old school shooters of the Pre cod Modern Warfare era, at some points it even reminded me of Half Life. Neither game stands out in the genre but R1 was better.

*laughs* it was a horrible copy of half life thats the problem it had n64 graphics lame AI that you could run past and never have to fight even on its hardest difficulties. Health packs aren't anymore realistic or fun then renegerating health, its story was inaneits main character was another useless mute that added nothign to the story.

Resistace 2 looked better, played better, had a better story didn't have a lame mute main character and had generally far better online multiplayer.

you didnt play R1

he wasnt mute, he was just quiet, he talked a few times, but most of R1 you were on your own

and regen health being realistic? lol, being majin buu and getting shot in the head with jelly over the screen and being fine in 5 seconds is not realistic

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Each time a commercial is shown you're talking tens of thousands of dollars. I personally saw the commercial a good 50 times in the U.S. People in the UK complained about how many times they saw the commercial as well.

So they spent at least a few million on advertising. And that's being extremely conservative.

KC_Hokie

You don't know that. I'm sorry, I don't care how accurate you think you are being, how many times you see a commercial is not a direct correleation to how much money they spent. You could never and will never know that and how many times you see a commercial is not an idication of "good" advertising. Please stop this fallacy, I don't care whether its resistance or Cod, unless they tell you YOU DON'T KNOW and circumstantial evidence from a sample of forum dwellers is not proof of anything. If you think it is you are siding against logic.

I never insinuated it wasn't expensive. I said no one here knows so pretending like it was huge or small is silly and should just stop. Who cares how much they spent, it appears to have had a lukewarm start. Why do we nned to go into baseless speculation like "That's like their commercial only being shown a total of 100 times worldwide"? You don't know that, why again must we act like we do?

They sold one of those copies to me and i've definitely been getting my money worth with it. One of the best games this year if you ask me.

Modern Warfare 3 on the PS3 will demolish that number.

And people say CoD sells better on the 360 because the PS3 owners have more shooters to choose from...

Look at this game's sales. A PS3 exclusive.

Another sign that CoD is the only franchise that sells on the PS3, period.

PS3 gamers = COD gamers.

SHATT3R3D-GLASS

What? Plenty of games sell on the PS3.

Time to kill this franchise for good. Along with Killzone. Sony needs better IPs.

What? Isn't this like one of PS3's flagship titles? What is this?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

You don't know that. I'm sorry, I don't care how accurate you think you are being, how many times you see a commercial is not a direct correleation to how much money they spent. You could never and will never know that and how many times you see a commercial is not an idication of "good" advertising. Please stop this fallacy, I don't care whether its resistance or Cod, unless they tell you YOU DON'T KNOW and circumstantial evidence from a sample of forum dwellers is not proof of anything. If you think it is you are siding against logic.

ActicEdge

I never insinuated it wasn't expensive. I said no one here knows so pretending like it was huge or small is silly and should just stop. Who cares how much they spent, it appears to have had a lukewarm start. Why do we nned to go into baseless speculation like "That's like their commercial only being shown a total of 100 times worldwide"? You don't know that, why again must we act like we do?

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Its deserved instead of completely refining the awesome that was resistance 2 they changed it up again tried to make it like that crap that was resistance 1.

WilliamRLBaker

Resistance 1 was a much better game than resistance 2 in every sense of the word, it had coop campaign, health packs and resembled the old school shooters of the Pre cod Modern Warfare era, at some points it even reminded me of Half Life. Neither game stands out in the genre but R1 was better.

*laughs* it was a horrible copy of half life thats the problem it had n64 graphics lame AI that you could run past and never have to fight even on its hardest difficulties. Health packs aren't anymore realistic or fun then renegerating health, its story was inaneits main character was another useless mute that added nothign to the story.

Resistace 2 looked better, played better, had a better story didn't have a lame mute main character and had generally far better online multiplayer.
There is a reason FPS games evolved beyond weapon wheels carrying every weapon in the game, mute main characters with no personality because those game ideas are old and in todays world aren't good at all.

What? isn't this one of PS3's flagship titles? What is this?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

Resistance 1 was a much better game than resistance 2 in every sense of the word, it had coop campaign, health packs and resembled the old school shooters of the Pre cod Modern Warfare era, at some points it even reminded me of Half Life. Neither game stands out in the genre but R1 was better.

HaloinventedFPS

*laughs* it was a horrible copy of half life thats the problem it had n64 graphics lame AI that you could run past and never have to fight even on its hardest difficulties. Health packs aren't anymore realistic or fun then renegerating health, its story was inaneits main character was another useless mute that added nothign to the story.

Resistace 2 looked better, played better, had a better story didn't have a lame mute main character and had generally far better online multiplayer.

you didnt play R1

he wasnt mute, he was just quiet, he talked a few times, but most of R1 you were on your own

and regen health being realistic? lol, being majin buu and getting shot in the head with jelly over the screen and being fine in 5 seconds is not realistic

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Ok so then how large do you think the market budget was if a few million is too large. Just a few hundred thousand? That's like their commercial only being shown a total of 100 times worldwide.KC_Hokie

I never insinuated it wasn't expensive. I said no one here knows so pretending like it was huge or small is silly and should just stop. Who cares how much they spent, it appears to have had a lukewarm start. Why do we nned to go into baseless speculation like "That's like their commercial only being shown a total of 100 times worldwide"? You don't know that, why again must we act like we do?

They should stop too. They couldn't know the real reason either. I used to be all like "this and this is why it sold bad" but who cares ultimately? I don't know why people think hiding behind advertising changes anything.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

*laughs* it was a horrible copy of half life thats the problem it had n64 graphics lame AI that you could run past and never have to fight even on its hardest difficulties. Health packs aren't anymore realistic or fun then renegerating health, its story was inaneits main character was another useless mute that added nothign to the story.

Resistace 2 looked better, played better, had a better story didn't have a lame mute main character and had generally far better online multiplayer.

WilliamRLBaker

you didnt play R1

he wasnt mute, he was just quiet, he talked a few times, but most of R1 you were on your own

and regen health being realistic? lol, being majin buu and getting shot in the head with jelly over the screen and being fine in 5 seconds is not realistic

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I agree. Both Sony and Insomniac will keep this quiet. Sony doesn't want their investors to know they didn't make their money back on this game while Insomniac is trying to go multiplatform (Overstrike) and doesn't want other publishers to know. KC_Hokie

Sony's investors are not concerned with the performance of one game, as Sony is a very large company with many different subdivisions. Overall performance is what is important to investors, and in this case, the overall performance of their game division is what is important. The performance of Resistance 3 doesn't matter, because they aren't going to make any more anyway.

It happens daily to companies publicly traded. Do you follow the stock market?

By keeping everything quiet they avoided that.

You can't keep your financial activity quiet from your investors, as they are the owners of the company. Do you follow the stock market?

Potential investors have access to the public financials of any publicly traded company, and this will tell you if the company is profitible. If relatively small profects in a huge company failing drove away investors, no big corporation would be in business anymore.

Also, the volalility of the stock market can't be assigned to any single logical reason. Rumors have as big an impact on investor activity as factual activity in companies.

Time to kill this franchise for good. Along with Killzone. Sony needs better IPs.

Giant_Panda

yea lets kill something cause you dont like. Screw others enjoyment its all about you.