Retailers desperate to get rid of 360 stock???
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Btw, I'm sure at least some of you will claim to be masters of marketing and will also tell me that they're giving away free games and a 20 dollar gift card because the 360 is selling so well that they want customers to purchase a 360 at their store instead of another. LoL!Suyomizzle_Self owned.
What retailers do or have in stock is no indication of how well a system is doing. Look at the figures. 360 is sitting at the top, for now.
/agree I am surprised he managed to type it out without understanding it.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I've made my argument a bunch of times. You should take time to read my older posts. Then again, you're obviously right and I'm wrong on this subject. For all I know, you own a major retail store yourself!BgrngodI did read your older posts. You make the same argument 15 times. This does not make it correct. You've also posted countless times yourelf with your own personal opinion. I posted my OPINION also and never stated it to be dead on correct. This thread is about opinions....
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I've made my argument a bunch of times. You should take time to read my older posts. Then again, you're obviously right and I'm wrong on this subject. For all I know, you own a major retail store yourself!DaddyDC650I did read your older posts. You make the same argument 15 times. This does not make it correct. You've also posted countless times yourelf with your own personal opinion. I posted my OPINION also and never stated it to be dead on correct. This thread is about opinions.... You know I don't see the word opinion anywhere in your original post.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I've made my argument a bunch of times. You should take time to read my older posts. Then again, you're obviously right and I'm wrong on this subject. For all I know, you own a major retail store yourself!BgrngodI did read your older posts. You make the same argument 15 times. This does not make it correct. You've also posted countless times yourelf with your own personal opinion. I posted my OPINION also and never stated it to be dead on correct. This thread is about opinions.... You know I don't see the word opinion anywhere in your original post. Did you honestly take what I posted as a fact? It was obviously an opinion and if you have trouble understanding that, I have nothing else to say to you. Lmao!
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I've made my argument a bunch of times. You should take time to read my older posts. Then again, you're obviously right and I'm wrong on this subject. For all I know, you own a major retail store yourself!DaddyDC650I did read your older posts. You make the same argument 15 times. This does not make it correct. You've also posted countless times yourelf with your own personal opinion. I posted my OPINION also and never stated it to be dead on correct. This thread is about opinions.... You know I don't see the word opinion anywhere in your original post. Did you honestly take what I posted as a fact? It was obviously an opinion and if you have trouble understanding that, I have nothing else to say to you. Lmao! I took it as you posting it "as if" it were fact. Making an argument about why a retailer advertises a promotion such as this does not have room for opinion. The retailer either posted it for one reason, or posted it for another. You came up with what your "guess" (not opinion) about why they are doing a promotion, and the rest of us told you it was a bad guess.
Well, if the 360 is selling so well and flying off the shelves like some fanboys claim, why do they feel the need to include not only a free game, but a 20 dollar gift card along with it? Are they trying to get rid of their 20 dollar gift card stock? LoL! C'mon, obviously they have tons of 360's in stock and they want to get rid of some of it. Why are some people so blind? I'm not trying to say that the 360 isn't selling well at all. I'm just trying to let fanboys know that the 360 isn't exactly flying off of shelves and blowing the Wii and PS3 away in sales.DaddyDC650
Of course it's not flying off shelves. I don't believe anybody is stating that it is. It's selling comfortably and very steadily. The Microsoft fanboy market has long since purchased their 360s and the rush to be one of the first to own the console is over so you're not going to see sales exploding in the millions every month because consumers don't have any real need to rush out and buy the console - this only happens around the holidays when people are in gift-buying mode. Sales of the 360 are now being determined on all kinds of other factors, the biggest of which is price & gaming content and buyers are now increasingly looking for more of a better bargain. When Microsoft lowers the price of the console sales will improve.
If retailers want to entice buyers to get the console with some freebies, I see nothing wrong with that. It just means more 360s sold and in peoples' homes.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I've made my argument a bunch of times. You should take time to read my older posts. Then again, you're obviously right and I'm wrong on this subject. For all I know, you own a major retail store yourself!BgrngodI did read your older posts. You make the same argument 15 times. This does not make it correct. You've also posted countless times yourelf with your own personal opinion. I posted my OPINION also and never stated it to be dead on correct. This thread is about opinions.... You know I don't see the word opinion anywhere in your original post. Did you honestly take what I posted as a fact? It was obviously an opinion and if you have trouble understanding that, I have nothing else to say to you. Lmao! I took it as you posting it "as if" it were fact. Making an argument about why a retailer advertises a promotion such as this does not have room for opinion. The retailer either posted it for one reason, or posted it for another. You came up with what your "guess" (not opinion) about why they are doing a promotion, and the rest of us told you it was a bad guess. It is both a guess and an opinion. It is not against the rules to post your own opinion or "guess" which is almost the same thing anyways.... Thanks for bumping my thread though. Keep up the good work!
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I've made my argument a bunch of times. You should take time to read my older posts. Then again, you're obviously right and I'm wrong on this subject. For all I know, you own a major retail store yourself!DaddyDC650I did read your older posts. You make the same argument 15 times. This does not make it correct. You've also posted countless times yourelf with your own personal opinion. I posted my OPINION also and never stated it to be dead on correct. This thread is about opinions.... You know I don't see the word opinion anywhere in your original post. Did you honestly take what I posted as a fact? It was obviously an opinion and if you have trouble understanding that, I have nothing else to say to you. Lmao! I took it as you posting it "as if" it were fact. Making an argument about why a retailer advertises a promotion such as this does not have room for opinion. The retailer either posted it for one reason, or posted it for another. You came up with what your "guess" (not opinion) about why they are doing a promotion, and the rest of us told you it was a bad guess. It is both a guess and an opinion. It is not against the rules to post your own opinion or "guess" which is almost the same thing anyways.... Thanks for bumping my thread though. Keep up the good work! An opinion on this subject is not at all the same as a guess. Opinions can't be right or wrong. A guess CAN be right or wrong. Let me break it down in a simple "story" for you. George has three fruits to pick from. A strawberry, an apple, or an orange. DaddyDC650 guessed that George picked a banana. DaddyDC650 is wrong. Regardless of how much he insists that his guess about the banana is an opinion. He is still wrong.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I've made my argument a bunch of times. You should take time to read my older posts. Then again, you're obviously right and I'm wrong on this subject. For all I know, you own a major retail store yourself!BgrngodI did read your older posts. You make the same argument 15 times. This does not make it correct. You've also posted countless times yourelf with your own personal opinion. I posted my OPINION also and never stated it to be dead on correct. This thread is about opinions.... You know I don't see the word opinion anywhere in your original post. Did you honestly take what I posted as a fact? It was obviously an opinion and if you have trouble understanding that, I have nothing else to say to you. Lmao! I took it as you posting it "as if" it were fact. Making an argument about why a retailer advertises a promotion such as this does not have room for opinion. The retailer either posted it for one reason, or posted it for another. You came up with what your "guess" (not opinion) about why they are doing a promotion, and the rest of us told you it was a bad guess. It is both a guess and an opinion. It is not against the rules to post your own opinion or "guess" which is almost the same thing anyways.... Thanks for bumping my thread though. Keep up the good work! An opinion on this subject is not at all the same as a guess. Opinions can't be right or wrong. A guess CAN be right or wrong. Let me break it down in a simple "story" for you. George has three fruits to pick from. A strawberry, an apple, or an orange. DaddyDC650 guessed that George picked a banana. DaddyDC650 is wrong. Regardless of how much he insists that his guess about the banana is an opinion. He is still wrong. Opinions can be wrong..... thanks for bumping my thread again!
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Opinions can be wrong..... thanks for bumping my thread again!Bgrngod
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opinion
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
Either way it goes. You are still wrong.
"That rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty." You just self-owned yourself bud. Here's an example of an opinon that you CAN proven wrong because it DOES rest on sufficient grounds. "My personal opinion is that the Xbox 360 is selling horribly." Are you trying to say that my opinion can't be wrong or right? Recent sales PROVE that the 360 is in fact selling well. Thanks for bumping my thread and digging yourself deeper into a hole. LoL![QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Opinions can be wrong..... thanks for bumping my thread again!DaddyDC650
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opinion
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
Either way it goes. You are still wrong.
"That rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty." You just self-owned yourself bud. Here's an example of an opinon that you CAN prove wrong because it DOES rest on sufficient grounds. "My personal opinion is that the Xbox 360 is selling horribly." Are you trying to say that my opinion can't be wrong or right? Recent sales PROVE that the 360 is in fact selling well. Thanks for bumping my thread and digging yourself deeper into a hole. LoL! You are not getting the point here. Stating something as an opinion does not make it one. It just means you clearly don't know the meaning of the word or how/when to use it. By simply providing an example of someone stating "My personal opinion is that the Xbox 360 is selling horribly" when we all KNOW that this is wrong, simply makes that person look like an idiot. Opinions can not exist when there is clear and verifiable evidence contradicting a stated opinion."People are purple" - Clearly not an opinion, just wrong.
Your example is inproper use of the word Opinion.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]Opinions can be wrong..... thanks for bumping my thread again!Bgrngod
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opinion
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
Either way it goes. You are still wrong.
"That rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty." You just self-owned yourself bud. Here's an example of an opinon that you CAN prove wrong because it DOES rest on sufficient grounds. "My personal opinion is that the Xbox 360 is selling horribly." Are you trying to say that my opinion can't be wrong or right? Recent sales PROVE that the 360 is in fact selling well. Thanks for bumping my thread and digging yourself deeper into a hole. LoL! You are not getting the point here. Stating something as an opinion does not make it one. It just means you clearly don't know the meaning of the word or how/when to use it. By simply providing an example of someone stating "My personal opinion is that the Xbox 360 is selling horribly" when we all KNOW that this is wrong, simply makes that person look like an idiot. Opinions can not exist when there is clear and verifiable evidence contradicting a stated opinion. "People are purple" - Clearly not an opinion, just wrong. I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!its called marketing. everyone does it.Looks as though the Xbox 360 isn't blowing away the other 2 next-gen consoles in sales. Retailers like Best Buy have not only started to give away a free game with the purchase of an Xbox 360, you also get a 20 dollar gift card along with it! I can understand them giving away an older game with an Xbox 360 to get rid of stock of certain older games but why do they feel the need to also throw in a 20 dollar gift card? What's next? A free HD DVD player? Could happen in the next couple of months if Blu-ray wins the next-gen format war. All in all, retailers like Best Buy seem pretty desperate to get rid of excess 360 stock to me. Lemmings, flame me for telling the possible truth! I yearn for it!
Btw, I'm sure at least some of you will claim to be masters of marketing and will also tell me that they're giving away free games and a 20 dollar gift card because the 360 is selling so well that they want customers to purchase a 360 at their store instead of another. LoL!
DaddyDC650
I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!DaddyDC650It does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from?
lol TC is getting pwnedmwaLoL! I own a 360 and this thread was nothing more than my opinion. Thanks for your concern and the bump!
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"] I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!BgrngodIt does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from? Read the definition again if you're having trouble finding where it states that certain opinions can be proven wrong. Read it slooooowww. "1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. "
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"] I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!DaddyDC650It does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from? Read the definition again if you're having trouble finding where it states that certain opinions can be proven wrong. Read it slooooowww. "1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. " Yeah, that sentence doesn't say that certain opinions can be proven wrong. In fact it says the opposite. "...INSUFFICIENT to produce complete cratainty."
[QUOTE="mwa"]lol TC is getting pwnedDaddyDC650LoL! I own a 360 and this thread was nothing more than my opinion. Thanks for your concern and the bump!
lol i wasn't talking about your allegiance to a particular system...you're getting pwned for basing you opinion on a completely misinformed view of how the retail industry works...you have to admit pwnage on that
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"] I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!BgrngodIt does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from? Read the definition again if you're having trouble finding where it states that certain opinions can be proven wrong. Read it slooooowww. "1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. " Yeah, that sentence doesn't say that certain opinions can be proven wrong. In fact it says the opposite. "...INSUFFICIENT to produce complete cratainty." Meaning that opinions CAN be proven wrong if the opinion in question IS sufficient to produce certainty. Having trouble understanding bud? Keep in mind that YOU typed that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong when in fact certain opinions CAN be proven wrong. Btw, you spelled "certainty" wrong.
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"] I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!DaddyDC650It does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from? Read the definition again if you're having trouble finding where it states that certain opinions can be proven wrong. Read it slooooowww. "1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. " Yeah, that sentence doesn't say that certain opinions can be proven wrong. In fact it says the opposite. "...INSUFFICIENT to produce complete cratainty." Meaning that opinions CAN be proven wrong if the opinion in question IS sufficient to produce certainty. Having trouble understanding bud? Keep in mind that YOU typed that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong. Btw, you spelled "certainty" wrong. And if it CAN be proven wrong, then it's not an opinion because it no longer satisfies the definition of opinion.
They do this with every console thats been out for more then a year... thread failed. And if you looked at the sales number the PS3 is in last.Looks as though the Xbox 360 isn't blowing away the other 2 next-gen consoles in sales. Retailers like Best Buy have not only started to give away a free game with the purchase of an Xbox 360, you also get a 20 dollar gift card along with it! I can understand them giving away an older game with an Xbox 360 to get rid of stock of certain older games but why do they feel the need to also throw in a 20 dollar gift card? What's next? A free HD DVD player? Could happen in the next couple of months if Blu-ray wins the next-gen format war. All in all, retailers like Best Buy seem pretty desperate to get rid of excess 360 stock to me. Lemmings, flame me for telling the possible truth! I yearn for it!
Btw, I'm sure at least some of you will claim to be masters of marketing and will also tell me that they're giving away free games and a 20 dollar gift card because the 360 is selling so well that they want customers to purchase a 360 at their store instead of another. LoL!
DaddyDC650
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"] I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!BgrngodIt does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from? Read the definition again if you're having trouble finding where it states that certain opinions can be proven wrong. Read it slooooowww. "1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. " Yeah, that sentence doesn't say that certain opinions can be proven wrong. In fact it says the opposite. "...INSUFFICIENT to produce complete cratainty." Meaning that opinions CAN be proven wrong if the opinion in question IS sufficient to produce certainty. Having trouble understanding bud? Keep in mind that YOU typed that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong. Btw, you spelled "certainty" wrong. And if it CAN be proven wrong, then it's not an opinion because it no longer satisfies the definition of opinion. Well this is your personal opinion and not a fact. No matter what you might think, an opinion CAN be proven to be wrong to a certain extent. It states that if an opinion is NOT sufficient enough to produce complete certainty that it cannot be wrong or right. Which clearly means that if an opinion is sufficient enough to produce certainty, it can in fact be proven to be wrong.
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"] I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!DaddyDC650It does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from? Read the definition again if you're having trouble finding where it states that certain opinions can be proven wrong. Read it slooooowww. "1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. " Yeah, that sentence doesn't say that certain opinions can be proven wrong. In fact it says the opposite. "...INSUFFICIENT to produce complete cratainty." Meaning that opinions CAN be proven wrong if the opinion in question IS sufficient to produce certainty. Having trouble understanding bud? Keep in mind that YOU typed that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong. Btw, you spelled "certainty" wrong. And if it CAN be proven wrong, then it's not an opinion because it no longer satisfies the definition of opinion. Well this is your personal opinion and not a fact. No matter what you might think, an opinion CAN be proven to be wrong to a certain extent. It states that if an opinion is NOT sufficient enough to produce complete certainty that it cannot be wrong or right. Which clearly means that if an opinion is sufficient enough to produce certainty, it can in fact be proven to be wrong. Opinions themselves can never, by themselves, be enough to produce certainty. If an opinion ever does gain sufficient grounds to be proven right or wrong, by introducing evidence outside of the opinion, then it is NO LONGER an opinion.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Bgrngod"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"] I'm not getting the point..... rrrright. You stated that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong or right. You then self-owned yourself by quoting the dictionairy when it clearly stated that CERTAIN opinions CAN be proven wrong or right. Hurry up and type another damage control post. Need more bumps!BgrngodIt does not state that certain opinions can be prove wrong or right. Where did you get that from? Read the definition again if you're having trouble finding where it states that certain opinions can be proven wrong. Read it slooooowww. "1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. " Yeah, that sentence doesn't say that certain opinions can be proven wrong. In fact it says the opposite. "...INSUFFICIENT to produce complete cratainty." Meaning that opinions CAN be proven wrong if the opinion in question IS sufficient to produce certainty. Having trouble understanding bud? Keep in mind that YOU typed that an opinion CAN'T be proven wrong. Btw, you spelled "certainty" wrong. And if it CAN be proven wrong, then it's not an opinion because it no longer satisfies the definition of opinion. Well this is your personal opinion and not a fact. No matter what you might think, an opinion CAN be proven to be wrong to a certain extent. It states that if an opinion is NOT sufficient enough to produce complete certainty that it cannot be wrong or right. Which clearly means that if an opinion is sufficient enough to produce certainty, it can in fact be proven to be wrong. Opinions themselves can never, by themselves, be enough to produce certainty. If an opinion ever does gain sufficient grounds to be proven right or wrong, by introducing evidence outside of the opinion, then it is NO LONGER an opinion. The dictionairy does not state any of this. This is only your personal opinion. If you want to argue about this some more, PM me unless you want to keep bumping this thread. LoL!
[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]Opinions themselves can never, by themselves, be enough to produce certainty. If an opinion ever does gain sufficient grounds to be proven right or wrong, by introducing evidence outside of the opinion, then it is NO LONGER an opinion.DaddyDC650The dictionairy does not state any of this. This is only your personal opinion. If you want to argue about this some more, PM me unless you want to keep bumping this thread. LoL! Logic and reasoning state it. It's simply proper english and an understanding of how to read the dictionary.
No I will not PM you. The whole point of this forum's existence is to have a place to make these kinds of arguments. Lets just keep it here.
It's not logic or reasoning. It is your opinion. You think that no opinion can be proven wrong when certain opinions CAN be proven wrong. You fail to realise and continue to post garbage without backing it up with any kind of link. The dictionairy does not state anything about how opinions can never be proven wrong. It simply states that CERTAIN opinions can't be proven wrong. If it was true that no opinion can be proven wrong, the dictionairy would have stated it which it does not. Nothing more, nothing less. DaddyDC650According to the link I sent you, for something to be an opinion it HAS to be the following: a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. Once something no longer satisfies that statement, then it is no longer an opinion. Opinions must remain in that state to be an opinion. That's why this is listed as the definition of an opinion. That page does not say anything about "certain opinions". It is defining what all opinion are, not what they state.
No link, Bgrngod??? Thanks for not backing up your opinion on a subject that has nothing to do with the original post. I'm heading on out of my house so if you still want to argue, PM me because I'm done with this thread and more than likely will not be checking up on it anymore. Thanks again for all those bumps though! =PDaddyDC650Already provided a link. Go read it. You're still wrong.
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