Retrospective: COD5:WaW is full of fails

I decided to do a retrospective take on this game, since I only just picked it up.

1. Bug ridden.

2. Co-op mode doesn't work as it should. Instead of being able to actually play through the game in co-op, the cut scenes are skipped, and only the core missions are selected out of order to compete against. lame

3. Lame tactic to make people get the DLC maps. If you don't have the maps... it tries to connect to a match... then disconnects you at the very last second saying... "btw you dont have this map"

4. No Host migration

5. Parties are broken

6. Match making is broken as well

How is it.... it's still fun. Better then COD3.

Yeah, pretty much. It's still a underrated game though. People just refuse to give this game a try because it went back to WW2.

I play the PC version and never had any problems. But yeah CO-OP really sucks if you have anymore then 2 people playing.

I just said in another thread that innovation isnt always important, but damn WaW was so familiar it was unreal.

And yet it felt more like a CoD game than 4.

MP40.

Nuff said.

Call of Duty 3:

-Glitches everywhere

-Frequent frame rate drops

-Auto Aim is not default

-Auto Aim too sticky when not aiming down sight

-Multiplayer matches put too many people in one place, tanks aren't fun to use

-Frustrating single player

-unskippable cutscenes

The game is good, but just doesn't compare too the rest. It also has the hardest campaign on veteran(though I haven't played WaW)

The game is good, but just doesn't compare too the rest. It also has the hardest campaign on veteran(though I haven't played WaW)

2-10-08

That award goes to the original CoD on the PC. The health packs made the game ALOT harder.

And yet it felt more like a CoD game than 4.

Verge_6

Are you still going with that "real war" edge? I thought that was what Marine Force Recon were for... they kind of balanced the game out from the 'behind the scenes' gameplay of the SAS. Unconventional warfare is a big part of modern warfare.

COD (however unrealistic) demonstrates how war has changed with MW, and MW2.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

And yet it felt more like a CoD game than 4.

Leejjohno

Are you still going with that "real war" edge? I thought that was what Marine Force Recon were for... they kind of balanced the game out from the 'behind the scenes' gameplay of the SAS. Unconventional warfare is a big part of modern warfare.

COD (however unrealistic) demonstrates how war has changed with MW, and MW2.

Yeah it's pretty underwhelming. I've been trying to get back into it, and just today, here is what REALLY pissed me off:

ALL maps are available in rotation for ALL players. This means that those who do NOT have the maps will have to skip the map or quit the game. This causes a TON of problems. In COD4, players are divided into those who have the map pack and those who dont.

Since there are TWO map packs with one more on its way, this means that even more maps that arent bought are in rotation, which means MORE people quit, etc., etc.

Let's not forget the MP40. It is the worse abused weapon I have ever seen. Ever. EVERY single player uses it. EVERY gun is horrible, there are too many rifles and not enough machine guns.

Despite this, I still try to enjoy the multiplayer but I'm always sticking to COD4.

WaW's map packs are killing the community. Zombie maps need to be sold seperately, and there are just too many map packs and not enough players buying all of them. If any player misses out on even one map pack, then the whole server goes whack because players quit, game start timers get reset, hosts quit, etc.

It's simply pathetic.

MP40 ruins the online. It has no competition.

Treyarch had a good engine, but they know nothing about weapon balance at all. Sure in CoD 4 there was the M16 and the P90 as the overpowered weapons (Even though I think the frag grenades were the worst culprit) but they weren't completely dominating like the MP40 is.

That being said, its still fun. I just wish they balanced the guns better.

MP40.

Nuff said.

fourseamer4

MP40 ruins the online. It has no competition.

Treyarch had a good engine, but they know nothing about weapon balance at all. Sure in CoD 4 there was the M16 and the P90 as the overpowered weapons (Even though I think the frag grenades were the worst culprit) but they weren't completely dominating like the MP40 is.

That being said, its still fun. I just wish they balanced the guns better.

MrSlippery39

Yeah it's pretty underwhelming. I've been trying to get back into it, and just today, here is what REALLY pissed me off:

ALL maps are available in rotation for ALL players. This means that those who do NOT have the maps will have to skip the map or quit the game. This causes a TON of problems. In COD4, players are divided into those who have the map pack and those who dont.

Since there are TWO map packs with one more on its way, this means that even more maps that arent bought are in rotation, which means MORE people quit, etc., etc.

Let's not forget the MP40. It is the worse abused weapon I have ever seen. Ever. EVERY single player uses it. EVERY gun is horrible, there are too many rifles and not enough machine guns.

Despite this, I still try to enjoy the multiplayer but I'm always sticking to COD4.

WaW's map packs are killing the community. Zombie maps need to be sold seperately, and there are just too many map packs and not enough players buying all of them. If any player misses out on even one map pack, then the whole server goes whack because players quit, game start timers get reset, hosts quit, etc.

It's simply pathetic.

Alpha-Male22

I almost never used the MP40 and I never felt like I was at a disadvantage.

My retropspective: I only played coop, it was a blast. The end.

[QUOTE="MrSlippery39"]

MP40 ruins the online. It has no competition.

Treyarch had a good engine, but they know nothing about weapon balance at all. Sure in CoD 4 there was the M16 and the P90 as the overpowered weapons (Even though I think the frag grenades were the worst culprit) but they weren't completely dominating like the MP40 is.

That being said, its still fun. I just wish they balanced the guns better.

Englandfc1966

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]CoD5=CoD4 If you think one is trash then the other is trash.SquatsAreAwesom

[QUOTE="Englandfc1966"][QUOTE="MrSlippery39"]

MP40 ruins the online. It has no competition.

Treyarch had a good engine, but they know nothing about weapon balance at all. Sure in CoD 4 there was the M16 and the P90 as the overpowered weapons (Even though I think the frag grenades were the worst culprit) but they weren't completely dominating like the MP40 is.

That being said, its still fun. I just wish they balanced the guns better.

bestibomber

I decided to do a retrospective take on this game, since I only just picked it up.

1. Bug ridden.

2. Co-op mode doesn't work as it should. Instead of being able to actually play through the game in co-op, the cut scenes are skipped, and only the core missions are selected out of order to compete against. lame

3. Lame tactic to make people get the DLC maps. If you don't have the maps... it tries to connect to a match... then disconnects you at the very last second saying... "btw you dont have this map"

4. No Host migration

5. Parties are broken

6. Match making is broken as well

How is it.... it's still fun. Better then COD3.

SquatsAreAwesom

[QUOTE="bestibomber"][QUOTE="Englandfc1966"] Then you should try some different guns because the Thompson with SP will beat any MP40 Jugg user.emorainbo

[QUOTE="bestibomber"][QUOTE="Englandfc1966"] Then you should try some different guns because the Thompson with SP will beat any MP40 Jugg user.emorainbo

MP40 ruins the online. It has no competition.

Treyarch had a good engine, but they know nothing about weapon balance at all. Sure in CoD 4 there was the M16 and the P90 as the overpowered weapons (Even though I think the frag grenades were the worst culprit) but they weren't completely dominating like the MP40 is.

That being said, its still fun. I just wish they balanced the guns better.

MrSlippery39

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

I decided to do a retrospective take on this game, since I only just picked it up.

1. Bug ridden.

2. Co-op mode doesn't work as it should. Instead of being able to actually play through the game in co-op, the cut scenes are skipped, and only the core missions are selected out of order to compete against. lame

3. Lame tactic to make people get the DLC maps. If you don't have the maps... it tries to connect to a match... then disconnects you at the very last second saying... "btw you dont have this map"

4. No Host migration

5. Parties are broken

6. Match making is broken as well

How is it.... it's still fun. Better then COD3.

Brownesque

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]CoD5=CoD4 If you think one is trash then the other is trash.SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Um. No.SquatsAreAwesom

[QUOTE="bestibomber"][QUOTE="Englandfc1966"] Then you should try some different guns because the Thompson with SP will beat any MP40 Jugg user.emorainbo

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

I decided to do a retrospective take on this game, since I only just picked it up.

1. Bug ridden.

2. Co-op mode doesn't work as it should. Instead of being able to actually play through the game in co-op, the cut scenes are skipped, and only the core missions are selected out of order to compete against. lame

3. Lame tactic to make people get the DLC maps. If you don't have the maps... it tries to connect to a match... then disconnects you at the very last second saying... "btw you dont have this map"

4. No Host migration

5. Parties are broken

6. Match making is broken as well

How is it.... it's still fun. Better then COD3.

SquatsAreAwesom

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]CoD5=CoD4 If you think one is trash then the other is trash.SparkyProtocol

Are you serious? The map design of COD WaW is grade school level compared to COD 4. The weapons of COD 4 very well balanced all around while COD WaW has a couple powerhouses that are spectuacular in any situation.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Um. No.SeanyBoy21

Are you serious? The map design of COD WaW is grade school level compared to COD 4. The weapons of COD 4 very well balanced all around while COD WaW has a couple powerhouses that are spectuacular in any situation.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Um. No.SeanyBoy21

Are you serious? The map design of COD WaW is grade school level compared to COD 4. The weapons of COD 4 very well balanced all around while COD WaW has a couple powerhouses that are spectuacular in any situation.

The weapons of COD 4 very well balanced all around while COD WaW has a couple powerhouses that are spectuacular in any situation.

SeanyBoy21

I don't trade in games due my own standards, but boy do I wish I've never bought this game. Beat the campaign when I got it, played some co op with my friends, and being the traditional COD fans they were they hardly even showed interest after playing through the first few missions. Expensive 70 bucks Canadian price tag, boring SP, rehashed MP, and the sad thing about COD5 is that up to date the most popular part of the game is actually the bonus game mode Nazi Zombies that the devs packed in just for some random reason.

Still have it in my collection, the case and disc is in pristine condition, but thats because its been at the bottom of my games stack since I last played it in December.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Um. No.SeanyBoy21

Are you serious? The map design of COD WaW is grade school level compared to COD 4. The weapons of COD 4 very well balanced all around while COD WaW has a couple powerhouses that are spectuacular in any situation.

Have you played team deathmatch on Creek or Downpour? They are not balanced. Both display terrible choice of judgement from whoever created those maps. Then there is Shipment, or as I call it, "the dumbest map ever created." On team deathmatch, it's a total frag fest. Then comes the constant air strikes that WILL wipe out most of the opposing team members because the map is so dam small so there is nowhere to run. Besides those three maps, most of the others are pretty balanced.

I decided to do a retrospective take on this game, since I only just picked it up.

1. Bug ridden.

2. Co-op mode doesn't work as it should. Instead of being able to actually play through the game in co-op, the cut scenes are skipped, and only the core missions are selected out of order to compete against. lame

3. Lame tactic to make people get the DLC maps. If you don't have the maps... it tries to connect to a match... then disconnects you at the very last second saying... "btw you dont have this map"

4. No Host migration

5. Parties are broken

6. Match making is broken as well

How is it.... it's still fun. Better then COD3.

SquatsAreAwesom

cod4 has everything you listed btw

on this one map on the 360 i guess theres a glitch that if you jump backwards through the wall you kinda go underneath the map, but you can still shoot everyone but they cant shoot you, and this glitch was so well known that both of the teams were at this wall killing each other trying to make sure no one got to it. I found that pretty funny.