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#51 Cait__Sith
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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"]NEWEGG.COM Antec 900 - $59.99 Corsair 650w - $89.99 Nvidia 8800GT (2) - $100 ($50 per card) AMD 5600+ x2 - $54.99 GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $109.99 4GB DDR2- $102.99 GRAND TOTAL OF LISTED PARTS $517.95 I ether found the same part you had, or found a better part, I also did not look for deals or specials, but at the first thing that came up.AnnoyedDragon

Well there you go, hardly a bank buster.

Yeah also in the PC hardware fourms in the picture guide to computer building used this setup:

Case - NZXT Apollo ORANGE NP
Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3
Graphics Card - XFX Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Power Supply - Corsair CMPSU 400CX
CPU - AMD Athlon 64 X@ 5200 Brisbane 2.7GHz
Hard Drive - Western Digital Cavier Green 750GB
DVD - Sony DVDRW Drive
Operating System - Windows 7 RC

Total - $535 with shipping




LINK: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26986920&tag=topics;title

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#52 Cait__Sith
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

I have a $600 PC and I can play crysis on high with 4x AA, which looks way better than anythinga console can produce. I have never had an issue with my $600 computer and it maxes most games without any extra tweaking. So you are saying playing crysis on high is low-end? Your theory makes no sense and you should stop talking about PCs right now; you're just making yourself look stupid.SF_KiLLaMaN

oh wow u can play a 2 year old game . Dont bs me sir . I am taking about good parts in every aspect of a machine. not just a decent cpu / gpu .

Totally agree with you man. everybody knows that a $500 case increases your framerate by 60%. That's why it;'s very important to have a 1500 carat gold case with diamonds.

Yeah well that 100% Platinum case helped keep my parts cool so I got better performance :P
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#53 gamer620
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For a good gaming rig (that would play all the games that are released without a hitch), you'd be spending quite a lot of money.charizard1605
if 1200-1500 is a lot of money to him than yes, this statement is true. Some people are perfectly content with that price point though (more often than not, they expect to pay this figure for PCs, much like they expect to pay no more than 400 dollars for the main SKU of a gaming console) If the games are there on the PC for him and he is willing to pay the price, than there is no reason not to.

And before people start talking about how 1200-1500 "is twice as much as you need to pay for a PC", a 600 dollar PC will get you poor hardware. The PC i built for 1300 this year uses high end hardware (lots of EVGA hardware inside my box). I don't settle for second rate hardware. The only time I would buy an XFX or Sparkle GPU would be for an upgrade. They are cheap, and will last about a year, maybe two tops if you are good about taking care of your system. Keep this in mind when you see posts about 500-700 dollar systems.

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#54 dakan45
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Pc gaming nowadays is a no-go 90% of the games out therea are cheap ports on the pc with many bugs or aiming issues, etc,etc So no its not more covenient than playing on a console where the game was made for. Prons are that games usually come cheaper and you you get better graphics. Cons are that some games are so badly ported that you should stick to the consoles. Also sometimes the rquirements of the games are insane and you better off with a cheaper consoles instead of spending so much money on a good rig and constantly upgrading. Pc never was in a worse state than it is now.
its not worth the effort. especially if your a more casual gamer. Drakes_Fortune
In few words, yes!! Thats because of all the reasons i pointed above. If you are a casual gamer and wann just play games... then stick to the consoles since game developers do everything to make their products as well as possible on the consoles and neglect the pc version quality totally. But if you wanna play mmos or rts, thats another thing. 90% of gamers in a community and 90% of game developers focus on consoles. Game developers not only focusing on consoles but they also make cheap ports for the pc with many problems and visible consol counterparts, they dont even bother to optimize their games so you will be able to run it with reasonable hardware for their graphics. In few words, you could not choose a worse time to decide to start playing on the pc. Stay to the consoles for this gen and then we will see how things will turn out in the future.
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#55 lowe0
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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Honestly the way people go on about hardware prices, this system in my sig did Dragon Age maxed at 1920x1200.

I do not know how much it would cost today, monitor is probably the most expensive part.

NEWEGG.COM Antec 900 - $59.99 Corsair 650w - $89.99 Nvidia 8800GT (2) - $100 ($50 per card) AMD 5600+ x2 - $54.99 GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $109.99 4GB DDR2- $102.99 GRAND TOTAL OF LISTED PARTS $517.95 I ether found the same part you had, or found a better part, I also did not look for deals or specials, but at the first thing that came up.

You're missing a case and hard drive/optical drive. Also, I don't think that's a SLI board. You'l need to dump the 8800 GTs and put in one card, or go ATI (which you might as well do anyway)
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#56 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

most custom pcs are garbage . i see people saying " i can make a 500$ pc! " . A 500$ pc is horrible! you have a case made with dollar store plastic some no name power supply that's held together with bread ties. you have some cheap crappy mother board . the only thing they put in these things is a med ranged cpu and gpu and act like its a good machine . its like putting a good engine into a 1984 rusted honda . anything under 800$ is just a cheap low end pc . you might be able to get a cupple of good parts in it . but over all the system is junke .

SF_KiLLaMaN
I have a $600 PC and I can play crysis on high with 4x AA, which looks way better than anythinga console can produce. I have never had an issue with my $600 computer and it maxes most games without any extra tweaking. So you are saying playing crysis on high is low-end? Your theory makes no sense and you should stop talking about PCs right now; you're just making yourself look stupid.

Nice, nice, but thats crysis, try running most multiplatform games and you will see that the perfomance will force you into buying better hardware. Also try pc exclusives like arma 2 with your current pc, i doubt you can go higher than medium settings.
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#57 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

most custom pcs are garbage . i see people saying " i can make a 500$ pc! " . A 500$ pc is horrible! you have a case made with dollar store plastic some no name power supply that's held together with bread ties. you have some cheap crappy mother board . the only thing they put in these things is a med ranged cpu and gpu and act like its a good machine . its like putting a good engine into a 1984 rusted honda . anything under 800$ is just a cheap low end pc . you might be able to get a cupple of good parts in it . but over all the system is junke .

dakan45

I have a $600 PC and I can play crysis on high with 4x AA, which looks way better than anythinga console can produce. I have never had an issue with my $600 computer and it maxes most games without any extra tweaking. So you are saying playing crysis on high is low-end? Your theory makes no sense and you should stop talking about PCs right now; you're just making yourself look stupid.

Nice, nice, but thats crysis, try running most multiplatform games and you will see that the perfomance will force you into buying better hardware. Also try pc exclusives like arma 2 with your current pc, i doubt you can go higher than medium settings.

lol, I can play AmA 2 on high as well. I also play STALKER Clear Sky on high, Company of heroes on high, prototype on high, and world in conflict on high. I also can play the mess that is Mercenaries 2 on high. Do you want me to keep going? Every game I own I can either max, or play on high. This is all at 1440x900 so I consider that pretty good for a $600 PC.

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#58 SLIisaownsystem
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"]You actually can, things don't have to be expensive to be good quality.Cait__Sith

if you get some really good sales maybe. You get what you pay for 90% of the time . How much cheaper then 800$ can you make a good machine?i really dont see it being even 50$ less . Some people have low standards .

Doesn't have to be good sales or anything, just buy from the right places. So don't buy from a place like Best Buy, buy from Newegg.

i build my rig for 1000 dollar

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

For a good gaming rig (that would play all the games that are released without a hitch), you'd be spending $2500-$4000 for sure. I still think you should stick to console gaming... I mean, the PC is great as a gaming platform, and sure, there's no denying that console manufacturers like to milk their consumers for all they're worth, but you need to remember that PC has been getting increasingly belated (and not so good) ports of multiplats lately (cases in point, GTA IV and Modern Warfare 2), that PC exclusives are now nothing more or less than RTS's, and that, face it, more and more people are moving to the consoles. In the end, it's all your choice, of course, and I wish you have as much fun as possible whatever you choose!!! :)charizard1605

And this is why you don't ask questions like this in System Wars :P

Go to the PC hardware section, they will tell you the correct pricing and such.

Sorry, I don't really know, I'm not much of a PC gamer. I'll edit that if it is factually incorrect.

If you've obviously no clue about PC gaming why reply, your post is so wrong I don't know where to start. Consolite ignorance about PC gaming is staggering sometimes.
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#60 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]For a good gaming rig (that would play all the games that are released without a hitch), you'd be spending $2500-$4000 for sure. I still think you should stick to console gaming... I mean, the PC is great as a gaming platform, and sure, there's no denying that console manufacturers like to milk their consumers for all they're worth, but you need to remember that PC has been getting increasingly belated (and not so good) ports of multiplats lately (cases in point, GTA IV and Modern Warfare 2), that PC exclusives are now nothing more or less than RTS's, and that, face it, more and more people are moving to the consoles. In the end, it's all your choice, of course, and I wish you have as much fun as possible whatever you choose!!! :)charizard1605

And this is why you don't ask questions like this in System Wars :P

Go to the PC hardware section, they will tell you the correct pricing and such.

Sorry, I don't really know, I'm not much of a PC gamer. I'll edit that if it is factually incorrect.

You must suffer from that foot in mouth syndrome quite a bit. :P
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#61 HotRevolver
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Again, another thread where console fanboys don't know what they're talking about.

And the HP firebird? REALLY? You mean the slim as hell case which basically means no future upgrades? Uh, no thanks. You can find quality parts on Newegg and build a great machine that will stomp the Firebird. All parts will be quality, and won't be the junk Dell/HP/Gateway use to cut costs so they can sell it for 400% markup.

This thread makes me :roll:

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#62 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] I have a $600 PC and I can play crysis on high with 4x AA, which looks way better than anythinga console can produce. I have never had an issue with my $600 computer and it maxes most games without any extra tweaking. So you are saying playing crysis on high is low-end? Your theory makes no sense and you should stop talking about PCs right now; you're just making yourself look stupid.SF_KiLLaMaN

Nice, nice, but thats crysis, try running most multiplatform games and you will see that the perfomance will force you into buying better hardware. Also try pc exclusives like arma 2 with your current pc, i doubt you can go higher than medium settings.

lol, I can play AmA 2 on high as well. I also play STALKER Clear Sky on high, Company of heroes on high, prototype on high, and world in conflict on high. I also can play the mess that is Mercenaries 2 on high. Do you want me to keep going? Every game I own I can either max, or play on high. This is all at 1440x900 so I consider that pretty good for a $600 PC.

Ok about arma 2, i could run it near high with my old dual core, but i doubt you can play gta iv or crysostasis on high without lagging like crazy...
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#63 Cait__Sith
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Honestly the way people go on about hardware prices, this system in my sig did Dragon Age maxed at 1920x1200.

I do not know how much it would cost today, monitor is probably the most expensive part.

NEWEGG.COM Antec 900 - $59.99 Corsair 650w - $89.99 Nvidia 8800GT (2) - $100 ($50 per card) AMD 5600+ x2 - $54.99 GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $109.99 4GB DDR2- $102.99 GRAND TOTAL OF LISTED PARTS $517.95 I ether found the same part you had, or found a better part, I also did not look for deals or specials, but at the first thing that came up.

You're missing a case and hard drive/optical drive. Also, I don't think that's a SLI board. You'l need to dump the 8800 GTs and put in one card, or go ATI (which you might as well do anyway)

Antec 900 is a case, and the Mobo he has was old and i couldn't find it so i just priced something. HDD and Optical he never listed. All i was doign was pricing out the parts he had listed in his specs.
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#64 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Nice, nice, but thats crysis, try running most multiplatform games and you will see that the perfomance will force you into buying better hardware. Also try pc exclusives like arma 2 with your current pc, i doubt you can go higher than medium settings.dakan45

lol, I can play AmA 2 on high as well. I also play STALKER Clear Sky on high, Company of heroes on high, prototype on high, and world in conflict on high. I also can play the mess that is Mercenaries 2 on high. Do you want me to keep going? Every game I own I can either max, or play on high. This is all at 1440x900 so I consider that pretty good for a $600 PC.

Ok about arma 2, i could run it near high with my old dual core, but i doubt you can play gta iv or crysostasis on high without lagging like crazy...

you probably got me there. GTA 4 is CPU heavy and my cpu is not top notch, but it gets the job done for almost all games. Plus, did you see how good GTA 4 on PC looks? Plss both cryostasis and GTA 4 are very poorly made console ports, and that is not what PC gaming is about. This thread is about how you can get a fairly cheap gaming PC that runs most games on high. Of course there will be a few games that could stutter a bit but it is worth it for superior controls, better community, better graphics, more games, etc.

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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"] NEWEGG.COM Antec 900 - $59.99 Corsair 650w - $89.99 Nvidia 8800GT (2) - $100 ($50 per card) AMD 5600+ x2 - $54.99 GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $109.99 4GB DDR2- $102.99 GRAND TOTAL OF LISTED PARTS $517.95 I ether found the same part you had, or found a better part, I also did not look for deals or specials, but at the first thing that came up.lowe0
You're missing a case

The first part he listed is a case :|

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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

most custom pcs are garbage . i see people saying " i can make a 500$ pc! " . A 500$ pc is horrible! you have a case made with dollar store plastic some no name power supply that's held together with bread ties. you have some cheap crappy mother board . the only thing they put in these things is a med ranged cpu and gpu and act like its a good machine . its like putting a good engine into a 1984 rusted honda . anything under 800$ is just a cheap low end pc . you might be able to get a cupple of good parts in it . but over all the system is junke .

dontshackzmii

lol? Did you actually jsut say anything under $800 is a cheap low end PC? Shows how much you know.

Just because you can put a decent cpu/gpudoes not mean its a good machine . Don't bs me by telling me how good a 600$ pc can be . It's not all about specs its also about build quality. You need a decent case , power supply , mother board , ram , hard drive and so on to make a good machine . You can't make a very all round good machine with much less then 800$ .

the more you talk about stuff you got not idea about the more of a fool you look and trust me right now at some people's eyes you look like a dog trying to speak english. so i'll give you an advice: please stop

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#67 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Cait__Sith"] NEWEGG.COM Antec 900 - $59.99 Corsair 650w - $89.99 Nvidia 8800GT (2) - $100 ($50 per card) AMD 5600+ x2 - $54.99 GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $109.99 4GB DDR2- $102.99 GRAND TOTAL OF LISTED PARTS $517.95 I ether found the same part you had, or found a better part, I also did not look for deals or specials, but at the first thing that came up.Cait__Sith
You're missing a case and hard drive/optical drive. Also, I don't think that's a SLI board. You'l need to dump the 8800 GTs and put in one card, or go ATI (which you might as well do anyway)

Antec 900 is a case, and the Mobo he has was old and i couldn't find it so i just priced something. HDD and Optical he never listed. All i was doign was pricing out the parts he had listed in his specs.

Wow, I think I'm going blind. How did I miss the Nine Hundred... that's the case I used for my own PC. My error is duly noted.
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#68 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Cait__Sith"] NEWEGG.COM Antec 900 - $59.99 Corsair 650w - $89.99 Nvidia 8800GT (2) - $100 ($50 per card) AMD 5600+ x2 - $54.99 GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $109.99 4GB DDR2- $102.99 GRAND TOTAL OF LISTED PARTS $517.95 I ether found the same part you had, or found a better part, I also did not look for deals or specials, but at the first thing that came up.anshul89

You're missing a case

The first part he listed is a case :|

Yep. Reading fail on my part.
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#69 johnny27
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console games may cost a bit more but they have resale vaule while pc games don't .i can sell or trade in pretty much every console game . cant say the same for pc .

dontshackzmii

not true only games that are tied to an account like steam,any mmo,gas powered games,etc can't be resold for everything else you can buy used copies for even games with drm and limited installs which are 3 or 5 so you can resell it to more then one person. But personally i don't buy used games because i like to show support to the developer

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Cait__Sith"] NEWEGG.COM Antec 900 - $59.99 Corsair 650w - $89.99 Nvidia 8800GT (2) - $100 ($50 per card) AMD 5600+ x2 - $54.99 GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P - $109.99 4GB DDR2- $102.99 GRAND TOTAL OF LISTED PARTS $517.95 I ether found the same part you had, or found a better part, I also did not look for deals or specials, but at the first thing that came up.Cait__Sith
You're missing a case and hard drive/optical drive. Also, I don't think that's a SLI board. You'l need to dump the 8800 GTs and put in one card, or go ATI (which you might as well do anyway)

Antec 900 is a case, and the Mobo he has was old and i couldn't find it so i just priced something. HDD and Optical he never listed. All i was doign was pricing out the parts he had listed in his specs.

Where did you find the 8800 GT for $50?

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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="lowe0"]A good PC will be more like $900. Don't skimp on power supply or motherboard, or you'll just pay more to replace them when they die. A good Asus mobo and GPU, and a decent PSU from Corsair will be worth the extra cost.lowe0
Yeah, make sure you pay as MUCH AS POSSIBLE, otherwise Iowe0 can't troll effectively. Also, make sure you buy an Xbox 360, it's not like they have high failure rates or anything. Also, make sure you buy the Microsoft brand of everything and a wi-fi adapter because they're totally awesome. DON'T SKIMP.

That's a lowercase L, genius. If you're going to call me a troll, at least spell my **** name right. While you're at it, if you criticize me for the Xbox's failings, keep in mind that I'm primarily a PS3 gamer. And I'm speaking from recent experience - the machine my brother-in-law had me spec out for him was $1k, and it's a great machine, but not over-the-top by any means (Phenom II, Radeon 5850). The extra $100 is for the Antec P182 he wanted.

For once we agree, wihen building a new pc I don't go less than 1k.

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#72 Cait__Sith
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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="lowe0"] You're missing a case and hard drive/optical drive. Also, I don't think that's a SLI board. You'l need to dump the 8800 GTs and put in one card, or go ATI (which you might as well do anyway)sleepingzzz

Antec 900 is a case, and the Mobo he has was old and i couldn't find it so i just priced something. HDD and Optical he never listed. All i was doign was pricing out the parts he had listed in his specs.

Where did you find the 8800 GT for $50?

8800gt isn't sold anymore on newegg. And the average price I've seen at some local PC stores ranges from $50 to $70.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

most custom pcs are garbage . i see people saying " i can make a 500$ pc! " . A 500$ pc is horrible! you have a case made with dollar store plastic some no name power supply that's held together with bread ties. you have some cheap crappy mother board . the only thing they put in these things is a med ranged cpu and gpu and act like its a good machine . its like putting a good engine into a 1984 rusted honda . anything under 800$ is just a cheap low end pc . you might be able to get a cupple of good parts in it . but over all the system is junke .

dakan45
I have a $600 PC and I can play crysis on high with 4x AA, which looks way better than anythinga console can produce. I have never had an issue with my $600 computer and it maxes most games without any extra tweaking. So you are saying playing crysis on high is low-end? Your theory makes no sense and you should stop talking about PCs right now; you're just making yourself look stupid.

Nice, nice, but thats crysis, try running most multiplatform games and you will see that the perfomance will force you into buying better hardware. Also try pc exclusives like arma 2 with your current pc, i doubt you can go higher than medium settings.

Did you just say that multiplatform games require more horsepower than Crysis ( sig worthy btw ) ? That goes to show how much you know. Unless is GTA4 or saintsrow which are bad ports every single multiplatform runs at 1920x1080 even in a 2year old 8800gt like my Vga. Batman AA, Dragon age, Prototype, Assasins creed, Mass effect, RE5, NFS shift, Street fighter you name it there isnt a single multiplatform game outside those 2 i named an 8800gt cant max Also games that require fast hardware are few and namely are Arma 2, Crysis, Cryostasis and Stalker Call of pripyat but even those games can run at 1680x1050 at mostly high settings even in a 2 year old 8800gt