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#51 Slimmin360
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@kingtito said:

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@lglz1337 said:

knack is a flop get over it

LOL i love this....it's like being in on the best new secret of the PS4 and no one realizes it......but because some snobbish reviewers who haven't played a good action platformer since Super Mario Galaxy or Ratchet & Clank turned there nose up at it, everyone is going to dismiss it.

LOL whatever your loss, i just finished playing 3 straight hours of it, and it just gets better and better, don't take my word for it, by all means go and try the demo on the PS4 kiosks first, don't spend the money until you try it...if you're even the slightest lover of platformers or action games, you will enjoy playing the demo.

That's good for you but you need to stop acting like your opinion == fact. A majority of reviewers didn't like the game, get over it already. Play the game because you like it but stop trying to tell people the reviewers are wrong because you disagree with them.

First of all i can absolutely tell reviewers there wrong, what qualifies them to be reviewers?, the fact that they played video games for 15 to 20 years and have either a journalism or some kind of writing degree as well.....Okay i'm 44 years old and have been gaming for 35 years, which is longer than most of today's reviewers have been alive, and i have an english lit degree, as well as a computer hardware and software upgrades and repair degree from N.Y.I.T.

So i think i'm every bit as qualified to be a reviewer as they are, and i'm certainly more than qualified to question there reviews....but i am not telling people to run out and spend $60, what i am saying is to go and play the demo, and ignore the reviews until they have tried the demo for themselves and then make a decision.THATS ALL !!!

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#52 kingtito
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@Slimmin360 said:

@kingtito said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@lglz1337 said:

knack is a flop get over it

LOL i love this....it's like being in on the best new secret of the PS4 and no one realizes it......but because some snobbish reviewers who haven't played a good action platformer since Super Mario Galaxy or Ratchet & Clank turned there nose up at it, everyone is going to dismiss it.

LOL whatever your loss, i just finished playing 3 straight hours of it, and it just gets better and better, don't take my word for it, by all means go and try the demo on the PS4 kiosks first, don't spend the money until you try it...if you're even the slightest lover of platformers or action games, you will enjoy playing the demo.

That's good for you but you need to stop acting like your opinion == fact. A majority of reviewers didn't like the game, get over it already. Play the game because you like it but stop trying to tell people the reviewers are wrong because you disagree with them.

1 First of all i can absolutely tell reviewers there wrong,what qualifies them to be reviewers?, the fact that they played video games for 15 to 20 years and have either a journalism or some kind of writing degree as well.....2 Okay i'm 44 years old and have been gaming for 35 years, which is longer than most of today's reviewers have been alive, and 3 i have an english lit degree, as well as a computer hardware and software upgrades and repair degree from N.Y.I.T.

So i think i'm every bit as qualified to be a reviewer as they are, and i'm certainly more than qualified to question there reviews....but i am not telling people to run out and spend $60, what i am saying is to go and play the demo, and ignore the reviews until they have tried the demo for themselves and then make a decision.THATS ALL !!!

1 No you can't. It's an opinion and nothing more. Reviews aren't any different than yours or mine. You're missing the point.

2 Then you should understand that game reviews are opinion. Why are you trying to make it seem like a fact?

3 Doesn't mean your opinion is anymore valid than theirs which is what you're trying to say in this thread

Bottom line is you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact. Like I said your opinion =/= fact What you like =/= what everyone else does. In this case a majority of the reviewers don't agree with you.

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#53 -ArchAngeL-777-
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This is system wars so people will come in here and troll the thread just because of the score, but the game does look like fun. I have considered picking it up. I probably will at some point this Christmas season, maybe even Black Friday.

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#54  Edited By hiphops_savior
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@Slimmin360 said:

@lglz1337 said:

knack is a flop get over it

LOL i love this....it's like being in on the best new secret of the PS4 and no one realizes it......but because some snobbish reviewers who haven't played a good action platformer since Super Mario Galaxy or Ratchet & Clank turned there nose up at it, everyone is going to dismiss it.

LOL whatever your loss, i just finished playing 3 straight hours of it, and it just gets better and better, don't take my word for it, by all means go and try the demo on the PS4 kiosks first, don't spend the money until you try it...if you're even the slightest lover of platformers or action games, you will enjoy playing the demo.

I have and I even wrote my impressions on this forum a week ago. My opinion still stands that Knack is a mediocre piece of crap that does not take advantage of the guy's abilities (Wonderful 101 does a better job with using separating pieces to change gameplay mechanics).

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#55 LJS9502_basic
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@R3FURBISHED said:

@Slimmin360 said:

i love it.

good for you. You liking the game doesn't mean its good, but its good you are enjoying it.

Fair enough....but by the same token....why take reviews seriously?

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#56  Edited By GreySeal9
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TC (and others in the thread) is trying to justify his purchase. The only reason people are trying to convince themselves that this game is any good is because they don't have much else to play. We all know that's the truth.

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#57 LJS9502_basic
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@GreySeal9 said:

TC (and others in the thread) is trying to justify his purchase. The only reason people are trying to convince themselves that this game is any good is because they don't have much else to play. We all know that's the truth.

We do? I'd imagine that minus broken games.....every game has fans.

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#58  Edited By GreySeal9
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@GreySeal9 said:

TC (and others in the thread) is trying to justify his purchase. The only reason people are trying to convince themselves that this game is any good is because they don't have much else to play. We all know that's the truth.

We do? I'd imagine that minus broken games.....every game has fans.

Definitely. Actually, even broken games have fans. For instance, there's this one poster who swears by Sonic '06.

My comment wasn't meant to be taken super literally. Yes, there's the odd person out there that probably loves this game, but I'd bet anything that most of the "Knack is awesome/good/etc" is purchase justification. On this forum at least.

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@Slimmin360 said:

@kingtito said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@lglz1337 said:

knack is a flop get over it

LOL i love this....it's like being in on the best new secret of the PS4 and no one realizes it......but because some snobbish reviewers who haven't played a good action platformer since Super Mario Galaxy or Ratchet & Clank turned there nose up at it, everyone is going to dismiss it.

LOL whatever your loss, i just finished playing 3 straight hours of it, and it just gets better and better, don't take my word for it, by all means go and try the demo on the PS4 kiosks first, don't spend the money until you try it...if you're even the slightest lover of platformers or action games, you will enjoy playing the demo.

That's good for you but you need to stop acting like your opinion == fact. A majority of reviewers didn't like the game, get over it already. Play the game because you like it but stop trying to tell people the reviewers are wrong because you disagree with them.

First of all i can absolutely tell reviewers there wrong, what qualifies them to be reviewers?, the fact that they played video games for 15 to 20 years and have either a journalism or some kind of writing degree as well.....Okay i'm 44 years old and have been gaming for 35 years, which is longer than most of today's reviewers have been alive, and i have an english lit degree, as well as a computer hardware and software upgrades and repair degree from N.Y.I.T.

So i think i'm every bit as qualified to be a reviewer as they are, and i'm certainly more than qualified to question there reviews....but i am not telling people to run out and spend $60, what i am saying is to go and play the demo, and ignore the reviews until they have tried the demo for themselves and then make a decision.THATS ALL !!!

It's easy to judge that reviewers can be wrong. But unlike the normal person reviewers from sites like gamespot and IGN play so many more games than we do. There is a huge differences in judging games when you play for fun rather than 8 hours a day across all platforms.

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#60 HarlockJC
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@GreySeal9 said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@GreySeal9 said:

TC (and others in the thread) is trying to justify his purchase. The only reason people are trying to convince themselves that this game is any good is because they don't have much else to play. We all know that's the truth.

We do? I'd imagine that minus broken games.....every game has fans.

Definitely. Actually, even broken games have fans. For instance, there's this one poster who swears by Sonic '06.

My comment wasn't meant to be taken super literally. Yes, there's the odd person out there that probably loves this game, but I'd bet anything that most of the "Knack is awesome/good/etc" is purchase justification. On this forum at least.

There something wrong with people who liked Sonic 06. They also must be the same people who like to hurt themselves nonstop. To have to watch 5 minutes of cutscenes every time you die over and over again. I got the game free with my PS4, I tried to like it so much. There was so many errors in the game.

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#61 GreySeal9
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@HarlockJC said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@GreySeal9 said:

TC (and others in the thread) is trying to justify his purchase. The only reason people are trying to convince themselves that this game is any good is because they don't have much else to play. We all know that's the truth.

We do? I'd imagine that minus broken games.....every game has fans.

Definitely. Actually, even broken games have fans. For instance, there's this one poster who swears by Sonic '06.

My comment wasn't meant to be taken super literally. Yes, there's the odd person out there that probably loves this game, but I'd bet anything that most of the "Knack is awesome/good/etc" is purchase justification. On this forum at least.

There something wrong with people who liked Sonic 06. They also must be the same people who like to hurt themselves nonstop. To have to watch 5 minutes of cutscenes every time you die over and over again. I got the game free with my PS4, I tried to like it so much. There was so many errors in the game.

I'm thinking he was probably a crazed Sonic fanboy who can't mentally accept that Sonic 06 is a hot mess.

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@Riverwolf007 said:

you guy should quit freaking out over knack since ryse is most likely going to be lucky to get a 4.

once ryse gets its shytty score balance will be restored to sw.

Ryse won't get any lower than a 6. There might be one reviewer that'll troll for hits by giving it 5.

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#63  Edited By PsychoLemons
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Whatever floats your boat but you can't just jump to the conclusion that reviewers are wrong merely because they have a different opinion to yours (duh).

@GreySeal9 said:

@HarlockJC said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@GreySeal9 said:

There something wrong with people who liked Sonic 06. They also must be the same people who like to hurt themselves nonstop. To have to watch 5 minutes of cutscenes every time you die over and over again. I got the game free with my PS4, I tried to like it so much. There was so many errors in the game.

I'm thinking he was probably a crazed Sonic fanboy who can't mentally accept that Sonic 06 is a hot mess.

Is that "person" even around here anymore?

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@PsychoLemons said:

Whatever floats your boat but you can't just jump to the conclusion that reviewers are wrong merely because they have a different opinion to yours (duh).

@GreySeal9 said:

@HarlockJC said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@GreySeal9 said:

There something wrong with people who liked Sonic 06. They also must be the same people who like to hurt themselves nonstop. To have to watch 5 minutes of cutscenes every time you die over and over again. I got the game free with my PS4, I tried to like it so much. There was so many errors in the game.

I'm thinking he was probably a crazed Sonic fanboy who can't mentally accept that Sonic 06 is a hot mess.

Is that "person" even around here anymore?

I haven't seen him on this new version of GS, but he posted on the Legacy Forum pretty frequently.

Also, why put quotes around the word person? You don't believe that there's anybody out there who likes Sonic '06? lol.

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I will score higher if it starred Mario

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#66  Edited By PsychoLemons
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@GreySeal9 said:

@PsychoLemons said:

Whatever floats your boat but you can't just jump to the conclusion that reviewers are wrong merely because they have a different opinion to yours (duh).

@GreySeal9 said:

@HarlockJC said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@GreySeal9 said:

There something wrong with people who liked Sonic 06. They also must be the same people who like to hurt themselves nonstop. To have to watch 5 minutes of cutscenes every time you die over and over again. I got the game free with my PS4, I tried to like it so much. There was so many errors in the game.

I'm thinking he was probably a crazed Sonic fanboy who can't mentally accept that Sonic 06 is a hot mess.

Is that "person" even around here anymore?

I haven't seen him on this new version of GS, but he posted on the Legacy Forum pretty frequently.

Also, why put quotes around the word person? You don't believe that there's anybody out there who likes Sonic '06? lol.

Not really, actually. There were, if I could remember, at least two users that liked Sonic 06- with both their names having "sonic" in it, I think-but that is nothing compared to Youtube users and such.

The reason I put the quotation marks around it is because I might be pointing at the wrong user, of course.

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#67  Edited By adamosmaki
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That looked incredibly boring and no i havent watch the whole video but watching 3-4 minutes just out of curiosity it seems way to boring and monotonous

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#68  Edited By Cyberdot
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Knack looks great and I will be picking this game up along with PS4, with Killzone: Shadow Fall.

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@Cyberdot said:

Knack looks great and I will be picking this game up along with PS4, with Killzone: Shadow Fall.

Lol casual

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#70  Edited By AmazonTreeBoa
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@adamosmaki said:

That looked incredibly boring and no i havent watch the whole video but watching 3-4 minutes just out of curiosity it seems way to boring and monotonous

If all you watched was the beginning, yeah it looks boring. And that would be because you are watching the opening training session. Skip past that and watch the actual game, not the tutorial.

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#71  Edited By Bigboi500
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Reviews do not influence my gaming purchases. This game just doesn't seem very interesting to me. I'd probably pick it up at around $10 - $20 tho.

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#72  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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well if lems are gonna go by reviews, they better not touch crimson dragon lol

Metacritic: 54 based on 19 critics

IGN: 5.9 (same score they gave knack)

Gamespot: 5

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#73 adamosmaki
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

@adamosmaki said:

That looked incredibly boring and no i havent watch the whole video but watching 3-4 minutes just out of curiosity it seems way to boring and monotonous

If all you watched was the beginning, yeah it looks boring. And that would be because you are watching the opening training session. Skip past that and watch the actual game, not the tutorial.

i actually watched from about 45-46th minute till 50-51th ( somewhere looked like an underground temple or archaeological site with traps until the part he finds a transmuter or something like that ). But then again i'm not exactly big fan of platformers and with the exception of a couple of games ( mainly trine ) i never really liked them.

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Riiiiight. MC of 56... The game seems to be pretty meh. No doubt some people are gonna enjoy it... Duh.

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#75  Edited By Slimmin360
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@Midnightshade29 said:

@chikenfriedrice: actually a lot of people like it that actually own the game. People streaming their content of the game like it a lot. Also when I was at midnight launch there were a number of people looking forward to it.

The messed up thing is the people bashing it on sys wars have never played it. I haven't either but I am not going to bash it.. That would be juvenile...

Exactly my point, just try the demo before just blindly following reviews, especially since the demo is on every PS4 kiosk in your local retail store....no reason for all this hate.

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#76  Edited By Slimmin360
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@kingtito said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@kingtito said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@lglz1337 said:

knack is a flop get over it

LOL i love this....it's like being in on the best new secret of the PS4 and no one realizes it......but because some snobbish reviewers who haven't played a good action platformer since Super Mario Galaxy or Ratchet & Clank turned there nose up at it, everyone is going to dismiss it.

LOL whatever your loss, i just finished playing 3 straight hours of it, and it just gets better and better, don't take my word for it, by all means go and try the demo on the PS4 kiosks first, don't spend the money until you try it...if you're even the slightest lover of platformers or action games, you will enjoy playing the demo.

That's good for you but you need to stop acting like your opinion == fact. A majority of reviewers didn't like the game, get over it already. Play the game because you like it but stop trying to tell people the reviewers are wrong because you disagree with them.

1 First of all i can absolutely tell reviewers there wrong,what qualifies them to be reviewers?, the fact that they played video games for 15 to 20 years and have either a journalism or some kind of writing degree as well.....2 Okay i'm 44 years old and have been gaming for 35 years, which is longer than most of today's reviewers have been alive, and 3 i have an english lit degree, as well as a computer hardware and software upgrades and repair degree from N.Y.I.T.

So i think i'm every bit as qualified to be a reviewer as they are, and i'm certainly more than qualified to question there reviews....but i am not telling people to run out and spend $60, what i am saying is to go and play the demo, and ignore the reviews until they have tried the demo for themselves and then make a decision.THATS ALL !!!

1 No you can't. It's an opinion and nothing more. Reviews aren't any different than yours or mine. You're missing the point.

2 Then you should understand that game reviews are opinion. Why are you trying to make it seem like a fact?

3 Doesn't mean your opinion is anymore valid than theirs which is what you're trying to say in this thread

Bottom line is you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact. Like I said your opinion =/= fact What you like =/= what everyone else does. In this case a majority of the reviewers don't agree with you.

I never said it was a fact, stop putting words in my mouth, i said, and you can check my previous posts, " for people to go and play the demo and judge for themselves before just following reviews "

Then maybe peoples opinion will change,or maybe it won't, but to post in here that the game sucks because thats what you saw in some review, is ridiculous, judge for yourself if it sucks, play the demo and make up your own mind.....That's all i'm saying.

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This butthurt is almost as delicious as Eddie-Vedder's butthurt over The Last of Us.

I love McShea.

Making buyers remorse and Nintendo jealousy a wonderful, entertaining thing.

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Game reviewers judge (for the most part) a game objectively by its own merits and flaws. Yes, a review is an opinion. It's actually heavily debatable whether art can be judged as good or bad, or if how good it is subjective to the one experiencing it. It's even true that some people enjoying the highest rated games may find some fun in the lower rated games. I believe it to be somewhere in the middle as some people just don't sound good when they sing for example. How can I say they are a good singer if their technique is incorrect? It's interesting to see that such a game as Knack is polarizing; the reviewers don't like it, but some people do. This happens with movie reviews too sometimes. You'll notice for some movies the rating is "rotten" on rottentomatoes from reviewers, but the audience loved it. Sometimes reviewers fail to enjoy something as it is and expected something else out of it or preconceived standards that they feel every piece of art needs. So individually, it is true that the only way to tell if something is "good" or "bad" for yourself is to experience it yourself. But quality is still subjective. On the other hand, game reviewers judge on objective criteria. They may not be "right" about what they criticize it on, but they are not "wrong" either. It's just that- an opinion, and an opinion can't be "wrong". The whole point of game reviews is to inform the consumer which games are of high quality and which ones are duds. Opinions may vary, but that is their intent. However, to understand the perspective of the reviewer, you need to read the review before just judging it on the score. For example, Batman Origins could be seen as a great game as it plays well. The reviewer gave it a 6 because it sticks to the formula and doesn't try anything new. I still plan to pick up sometime even if I may not enjoy it as much as Arkham City; it's still good Batman gameplay, but it's nothing outstanding. I kinda like how Knack looks too though I am disappointed to hear it's a simplistic beat-em-up as I feel it had more potential to be something worthwhile. However, some of the combat mechanics in Knack look good so I may still check it out.