I still remember the days when Ridge racer used to be a decent driving game on PS1 what happend to namco to make it go that low loOL i GUESS thy should stop pumping a new game for every new system launch and start focusing on quality.
Got it FREE with preordering the Vita...Wow I kinda wish they didnt even include the game. Its so friggen bad, thank god it retails for $50 here in Australia might be able to pawn it off to EB or something for another vita game.
What is up with Namco Bandai? This is one of the reasons why I sold SCV, the lack of content will cause me to turn away from their games. I just hope that Streetfighter x Tekken has full content to justify $60.
A 3.0 is what Vita's launch lineup should be rated, all crap not worth half the price they're asking.silversix_
Troll harder. If the PS Vita's launch is crap then every other system for the past few launches must've been aboslutely abysmal. The only games not worth the price they're asking are Little Deviants, Ridge Racer & Uncharted (Should've been $40). I bet you don't even have one though to speak of their quality.
3 TRACKS?! WTF is this?! Did Gamespot review a demo or am I reading this correctly... this game has THREE tracks. This should be scored 1/10 for this alone.
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Funny thinking back about all the talk of how great the Vita library is.FlamesOfGrey
The PS Vita already has 4 AA & 5 A titles at launch. There are still a few games that haven't been reviewed yet try again. ;)
And five of those games have superior installments on the PS3 or Xbox 360, for cheaper (excluding Uncharted, UC3 is still $60) Lumines, Katamari, Stardust, Hot Shots are the only ones that don't have recent, better installments on HD platforms with cheaper price tags.
So far Nintendo 3DS is gonna whitewash the PS Vita. It's best titles are games you can get on a console anyway.
FlamesOfGrey
Outside of maybe 5 titles I can make the same argument against the 3DS currently. Please don't generalize. You can compare Uncharted Golden Abyss to Uncharted 3 since they are only 3 months apart, feature the exact same game play with Golden Abyss missing features. It's harder to compare Mario Kart 7 to Mario Kart Wii because there is a 3 1/2 year gap between them, and MK7 mixes up the core game play with communities to block out cheats/hackers, flying and diving to add a level of strategy and depth not seen in previous Mario Karts (not to mention managing Coin boosts) Just a few examples, that's all. There's a difference between taking a game and slapping it onto a handheld and taking a game and maintaining its core game play while making in unique in the series with new features. I'm not saying the Vita or 3DS aren't guilty of any of this, or that one is more guilty of it then the other per say, just establishing some ground rules.
So far Nintendo 3DS is gonna whitewash the PS Vita. It's best titles are games you can get on a console anyway.
FlamesOfGrey
Outside of maybe 5 titles I can make the same argument against the 3DS currently. Not really. Handheld versions of Nintendo franchises are different from their console counterparts unlike PSP games of GoW which feels and plays the same as the console games. There's also IPs exclusive to Nintendo's handhelds such as Professor Layton and Pokemon. Not to mention the great upcoming games for 3DS such as Kid Icarus Uprising and Bravely Default. Vita needs more games like Gravity Rush not games like Uncharted, GoW, CoD,etc.
So far Nintendo 3DS is gonna whitewash the PS Vita. It's best titles are games you can get on a console anyway.
lordlors
Outside of maybe 5 titles I can make the same argument against the 3DS currently. Not really. Handheld versions of Nintendo franchises are different from their console counterparts unlike PSP games of GoW which feels and plays the same as the console games. There's also IPs exclusive to Nintendo's handhelds such as Professor Layton and Pokemon. Not to mention the great upcoming games for 3DS such as Kid Icarus Uprising and Bravely Default. Vita needs more games like Gravity Rush not games like Uncharted, GoW, CoD,etc. I couldn't agree more, that's why I'm proud I chose DS over PSP last handheld gen and if I'm going to get a handheld from current handheld gen then it's going to be 3DS no doubt. I want my experience to be specifically a handheld one, and not just the same as on the bigger console counterpart.
So far Nintendo 3DS is gonna whitewash the PS Vita. It's best titles are games you can get on a console anyway.
Outside of maybe 5 titles I can make the same argument against the 3DS currently. Not really. Handheld versions of Nintendo franchises are different from their console counterparts unlike PSP games of GoW which feels and plays the same as the console games. There's also IPs exclusive to Nintendo's handhelds such as Professor Layton and Pokemon. Not to mention the great upcoming games for 3DS such as Kid Icarus Uprising and Bravely Default. Vita needs more games like Gravity Rush not games like Uncharted, GoW, CoD,etc. Handheld Mario Kart uses the same basic structure as the console versions. 3DS Mario Kart 7 adds in some new mechanics however, the core gameplay is still the same. Super Mario 3D Land is just 2D Mario mixed with some of the 3D elements from past Mario games, it's not a drastic change. The PSP had exclusive franchises as well such as Loco Roco & Patapon. The 3DS is a year out so, of course it's going to have more games coming out sooner then the Vita which has just had it's worldwide launch 1 day ago.
Both console version and handheld version of Mario Kart are just fun, so I don't give a sh1t whether one feels like this or that, who cares lol. For Vita, LBP is just perfect for both console and handheld versions as well. It's just the type of game and whether they fit better on a console, on a handheld or can actually do both.
Both console version and handheld version of Mario Kart are just fun, so I don't give a sh1t whether one feels like this or that, who cares lol. For Vita, LBP is just perfect for both console and handheld versions as well. It's just the type of game and whether they fit better on a console, on a handheld or can actually do both.
babycakin
That's the point. Nintendo fanboys run their mouths about Sony handhelds bringing out the same game series from the consoles and retaining what works while dismissing that Nintendo has done the same. Who cares if it is a similiar experience as long as it works and is fun but none of them have any true opinion on the quality of Vita games since they have no experience and piggy back off of reviewers.
[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Outside of maybe 5 titles I can make the same argument against the 3DS currently.FlamesOfGrey
Not really. Handheld versions of Nintendo franchises are different from their console counterparts unlike PSP games of GoW which feels and plays the same as the console games. There's also IPs exclusive to Nintendo's handhelds such as Professor Layton and Pokemon. Not to mention the great upcoming games for 3DS such as Kid Icarus Uprising and Bravely Default. Vita needs more games like Gravity Rush not games like Uncharted, GoW, CoD,etc. Handheld Mario Kart uses the same basic structure as the console versions. 3DS Mario Kart 7 adds in some new mechanics however, the core gameplay is still the same. Super Mario 3D Land is just 2D Mario mixed with some of the 3D elements from past Mario games, it's not a drastic change. The PSP had exclusive franchises as well such as Loco Roco & Patapon. The 3DS is a year out so, of course it's going to have more games coming out sooner then the Vita which has just had it's worldwide launch 1 day ago. That's the point. Nintendo makes them unique and they stand on their own without their console brethern. Have you played them? Uncharted GA uses the same basic structure as Uncharted 3 but takes away multi-player and adds very little. Mario Kart 7 maintains the core game play while modifying it in ways that makes it feel fresh to long time, and new players alike. So does Super Mario 3D Land. You've never played a Mario platformer where a 3D screen was incredibly helpful to clear some stages since there has never been a mario platformer that used a 3D screen. Succssefully merging the best elements of 2D/3D Mario's is cool in of its self, and Super Mario 3D Land plays different than both Galaxy games due to the added depth of the 3D screen making timing, judging jumps far better IMO.
Both console version and handheld version of Mario Kart are just fun, so I don't give a sh1t whether one feels like this or that, who cares lol. For Vita, LBP is just perfect for both console and handheld versions as well. It's just the type of game and whether they fit better on a console, on a handheld or can actually do both.
FlamesOfGrey
That's the point. Nintendo fanboys run their mouths about Sony handhelds bringing out the same game series from the consoles and retaining what works while dismissing that Nintendo has done the same. Who cares if it is a similiar experience as long as it works and is fun but none of them have any true opinion on the quality of Vita games since they have no experience and piggy back off of reviewers. Yes, but why spend $340 to play Uncharted GA when you could spend $60 to play it on your PS3? (I say $340 coz that's cost of WiFi Vita plus memory card plus the game) Since Uncharted GA has little to stand out and lacks features from the 3 month old Uncharted 3, it's a hard sell for most. But since MK7 was released 3 1/2 years after Mario Kart Wii, and actually plays different it is compelling for people to spend $210 on a 3DS with MK7 since the IP of Mario Kart is different to an extent each installment and there is a lot of time in between installments. If anything I think Sony's timing is all off. If they released these games on Vita during periods when they don't get releases on the PS3 it would at least be less repetitive of them. That's just my opinion though. I wonder how much you can judge how different Mario Kart 7 and 3D Land are from their predecessors if you "have no experience and piggy back off reviewers" as well. Have you played MK7 and 3D Land for extensive periods of time? (like, not 30 mins)
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="lordlors"] Not really. Handheld versions of Nintendo franchises are different from their console counterparts unlike PSP games of GoW which feels and plays the same as the console games. There's also IPs exclusive to Nintendo's handhelds such as Professor Layton and Pokemon. Not to mention the great upcoming games for 3DS such as Kid Icarus Uprising and Bravely Default. Vita needs more games like Gravity Rush not games like Uncharted, GoW, CoD,etc.bonesawisready5
Handheld Mario Kart uses the same basic structure as the console versions. 3DS Mario Kart 7 adds in some new mechanics however, the core gameplay is still the same. Super Mario 3D Land is just 2D Mario mixed with some of the 3D elements from past Mario games, it's not a drastic change. The PSP had exclusive franchises as well such as Loco Roco & Patapon. The 3DS is a year out so, of course it's going to have more games coming out sooner then the Vita which has just had it's worldwide launch 1 day ago. That's the point. Nintendo makes them unique and they stand on their own without their console brethern. Have you played them? Uncharted GA uses the same basic structure as Uncharted 3 but takes away multi-player and adds very little. Mario Kart 7 maintains the core game play while modifying it in ways that makes it feel fresh to long time, and new players alike. So does Super Mario 3D Land. You've never played a Mario platformer where a 3D screen was incredibly helpful to clear some stages since there has never been a mario platformer that used a 3D screen. Succssefully merging the best elements of 2D/3D Mario's is cool in of its self, and Super Mario 3D Land plays different than both Galaxy games due to the added depth of the 3D screen making timing, judging jumps far better IMO. Yes, I've played both Mario Kart 7 & Super Mario 3D Land. Yes, it's great the Nintendo has put in new mechanics for MK7 however, there is nothing wrong with not doing so if the core design works well enough. Uncharted: GA is just lacklaster effort by Sony Bend since there is no excuses for not including online multiplayer & Co-Op. However the core gameplay that made Uncharted a good game to play is still there. I don't see what new mechanics you can do to a linear TPS like Uncharted to make it feel different outside of new set pieces that weren't done before if anything. I'll give you that MK7 does add in some new mechanics which changes up the way the games feels however, for me it doesn't do that much. SM3DL on the other hand, I don't believe the 3D makes that big of a difference as you're making it seem. I haven't beaten the game yet but I've played through the first few worlds and I haven't encountered anything that I needed to switch to 3D to do. Also something to note I'm not saying any of these Nintendo games are bad.
[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Outside of maybe 5 titles I can make the same argument against the 3DS currently.FlamesOfGrey
Not really. Handheld versions of Nintendo franchises are different from their console counterparts unlike PSP games of GoW which feels and plays the same as the console games. There's also IPs exclusive to Nintendo's handhelds such as Professor Layton and Pokemon. Not to mention the great upcoming games for 3DS such as Kid Icarus Uprising and Bravely Default. Vita needs more games like Gravity Rush not games like Uncharted, GoW, CoD,etc. Handheld Mario Kart uses the same basic structure as the console versions. 3DS Mario Kart 7 adds in some new mechanics however, the core gameplay is still the same. Super Mario 3D Land is just 2D Mario mixed with some of the 3D elements from past Mario games, it's not a drastic change. The PSP had exclusive franchises as well such as Loco Roco & Patapon. The 3DS is a year out so, of course it's going to have more games coming out sooner then the Vita which has just had it's worldwide launch 1 day ago. What are you expecting on a handheld Mario game anyway? 3DLand feels different because it's a mix of 2d and 3d mario and there hasn't been a mario game quite like it even though there aren't any major changes. Drastic change? Do you have an idea what that drastic change would be? Make Mario not jump but shoot guns? Make Mario a tower defense game? These whiners always whine yet have no idea what drastic change they want. I'm only talking about DS/3DS. PSP does have exclusive franchises but i find DS' exclusives to be better both in quantity and quality.
[QUOTE="joojtzu"]Flamesofgrey you havent played the 3ds mario if with those comments above. FlamesOfGrey
I have played Super Mario 3D land whether you believe so or not. I didn't play anything that felt like a major change to me. I got it free when i brought my 3Ds. It plays different to both mario galaxy and super mario world as ive owned and finished both games. You might of played it which i doubt but you cant give a honest comment upon it with playing once or maybe twice. If you of said the game was crap after a couple quick goes id probaly agreed with you their as i couldnt adjust to it.
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="lordlors"] Not really. Handheld versions of Nintendo franchises are different from their console counterparts unlike PSP games of GoW which feels and plays the same as the console games. There's also IPs exclusive to Nintendo's handhelds such as Professor Layton and Pokemon. Not to mention the great upcoming games for 3DS such as Kid Icarus Uprising and Bravely Default. Vita needs more games like Gravity Rush not games like Uncharted, GoW, CoD,etc.lordlors
Handheld Mario Kart uses the same basic structure as the console versions. 3DS Mario Kart 7 adds in some new mechanics however, the core gameplay is still the same. Super Mario 3D Land is just 2D Mario mixed with some of the 3D elements from past Mario games, it's not a drastic change. The PSP had exclusive franchises as well such as Loco Roco & Patapon. The 3DS is a year out so, of course it's going to have more games coming out sooner then the Vita which has just had it's worldwide launch 1 day ago. What are you expecting on a handheld Mario game anyway? 3DLand feels different because it's a mix of 2d and 3d mario and there hasn't been a mario game quite like it even though there aren't any major changes. Drastic change? Do you have an idea what that drastic change would be? Make Mario not jump but shoot guns? Make Mario a tower defense game? These whiners always whine yet have no idea what drastic change they want. I'm only talking about DS/3DS. PSP does have exclusive franchises but i find DS' exclusives to be better both in quantity and quality. So you're using DS AND 3DS against the PS Vita? Really? The PS Vita has just launched worldwide while the 3DS has had a year. If by 2013 the PS Vita has nothing then by all means bash away since Sony isn't doing their job. Whether you find the titles better on the DS / 3DS is of no importance. The point is you Nintendo guys are always whining about Sony console games being put on Sony handhelds when Nintendo has ALWAYS done the same thing. What are you expecing from an Uncharted game? I know what I expect, the same gameplay with a new well written story and a few set pieces thrown in. What do I expect from a Mario game? Great level design with either 2D or 3D gameplay. Nintendo using the same forumla is not a problem but neither is Uncharted doing the same with its core gameplay.
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="joojtzu"]Flamesofgrey you havent played the 3ds mario if with those comments above. joojtzu
I have played Super Mario 3D land whether you believe so or not. I didn't play anything that felt like a major change to me. I got it free when i brought my 3Ds. It plays different to both mario galaxy and super mario world as ive owned and finished both games. You might of played it which i doubt but you cant give a honest comment upon it with playing once or maybe twice. If you of said the game was crap after a couple quick goes id probaly agreed with you their as i couldnt adjust to it. I never said it plays entirely like either. It play like a mixture of the 2D and 3D Mario games with the level design tailered to fit that gameplay style. The game isn't crap so why would I say it is. What couldn't I adjust to? The 3D? I rarely turn on 3D when playing any 3DS game because I don't like it and haven't needed it to do anything up to this point. You can find my 3DS Collection here: http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/DarkAbyssGaming/Video%20Game%20Collections/ I don't give opinions on games I haven't touched.
[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Handheld Mario Kart uses the same basic structure as the console versions. 3DS Mario Kart 7 adds in some new mechanics however, the core gameplay is still the same. Super Mario 3D Land is just 2D Mario mixed with some of the 3D elements from past Mario games, it's not a drastic change. The PSP had exclusive franchises as well such as Loco Roco & Patapon. The 3DS is a year out so, of course it's going to have more games coming out sooner then the Vita which has just had it's worldwide launch 1 day ago.FlamesOfGrey
What are you expecting on a handheld Mario game anyway? 3DLand feels different because it's a mix of 2d and 3d mario and there hasn't been a mario game quite like it even though there aren't any major changes. Drastic change? Do you have an idea what that drastic change would be? Make Mario not jump but shoot guns? Make Mario a tower defense game? These whiners always whine yet have no idea what drastic change they want. I'm only talking about DS/3DS. PSP does have exclusive franchises but i find DS' exclusives to be better both in quantity and quality. So you're using DS AND 3DS against the PS Vita? Really? The PS Vita has just launched worldwide while the 3DS has had a year. If by 2013 the PS Vita has nothing then by all means bash away since Sony isn't doing their job. Whether you find the titles better on the DS / 3DS is of no importance. The point is you Nintendo guys are always whining about Sony console games being put on Sony handhelds when Nintendo has ALWAYS done the same thing. What are you expecing from an Uncharted game? I know what I expect, the same gameplay with a new well written story and a few set pieces thrown in. What do I expect from a Mario game? Great level design with either 2D or 3D gameplay. Nintendo using the same forumla is not a problem but neither is Uncharted doing the same with its core gameplay. I'm not bashing the Vita dude. You're the one bashing 3DS that's why i made a counter. Nintendo has always achieved great level design. They are literally the masters of gameplay and they always make enough additions/changes that won't harm the core formula *cough C&C4 *cough. I'm not going to bother with an idiot anymore.
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="lordlors"] What are you expecting on a handheld Mario game anyway? 3DLand feels different because it's a mix of 2d and 3d mario and there hasn't been a mario game quite like it even though there aren't any major changes. Drastic change? Do you have an idea what that drastic change would be? Make Mario not jump but shoot guns? Make Mario a tower defense game? These whiners always whine yet have no idea what drastic change they want. I'm only talking about DS/3DS. PSP does have exclusive franchises but i find DS' exclusives to be better both in quantity and quality.lordlors
So you're using DS AND 3DS against the PS Vita? Really? The PS Vita has just launched worldwide while the 3DS has had a year. If by 2013 the PS Vita has nothing then by all means bash away since Sony isn't doing their job. Whether you find the titles better on the DS / 3DS is of no importance. The point is you Nintendo guys are always whining about Sony console games being put on Sony handhelds when Nintendo has ALWAYS done the same thing. What are you expecing from an Uncharted game? I know what I expect, the same gameplay with a new well written story and a few set pieces thrown in. What do I expect from a Mario game? Great level design with either 2D or 3D gameplay. Nintendo using the same forumla is not a problem but neither is Uncharted doing the same with its core gameplay. I'm not bashing the Vita dude. You're the one bashing 3DS that's why i made a counter. Nintendo has always achieved great level design. They are literally the masters of gameplay and they always make enough additions/changes that won't harm the core formula *cough C&C4 *cough. I'm not going to bother with an idiot anymore.
Exactly stop talking. I never bashed the 3DS I simply defended the Vita there's a big difference.
[QUOTE="joojtzu"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] I have played Super Mario 3D land whether you believe so or not. I didn't play anything that felt like a major change to me.FlamesOfGrey
I got it free when i brought my 3Ds. It plays different to both mario galaxy and super mario world as ive owned and finished both games. You might of played it which i doubt but you cant give a honest comment upon it with playing once or maybe twice. If you of said the game was crap after a couple quick goes id probaly agreed with you their as i couldnt adjust to it. I never said it plays entirely like either. It play like a mixture of the 2D and 3D Mario games with the level design tailered to fit that gameplay style. The game isn't crap so why would I say it is. What couldn't I adjust to? The 3D? I rarely turn on 3D when playing any 3DS game because I don't like it and haven't needed it to do anything up to this point. You can find my 3DS Collection here: http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/DarkAbyssGaming/Video%20Game%20Collections/ I don't give opinions on games I haven't touched. Reread what i said... i cannot be bothered to make a genuine reply when people cant be assed to read.
[QUOTE="joojtzu"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] I have played Super Mario 3D land whether you believe so or not. I didn't play anything that felt like a major change to me.FlamesOfGrey
I got it free when i brought my 3Ds. It plays different to both mario galaxy and super mario world as ive owned and finished both games. You might of played it which i doubt but you cant give a honest comment upon it with playing once or maybe twice. If you of said the game was crap after a couple quick goes id probaly agreed with you their as i couldnt adjust to it. I never said it plays entirely like either. It play like a mixture of the 2D and 3D Mario games with the level design tailered to fit that gameplay style. The game isn't crap so why would I say it is. What couldn't I adjust to? The 3D? I rarely turn on 3D when playing any 3DS game because I don't like it and haven't needed it to do anything up to this point. You can find my 3DS Collection here: http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/DarkAbyssGaming/Video%20Game%20Collections/ I don't give opinions on games I haven't touched. Reread what i said... i cannot be bothered to make a genuine reply when people cant be assed to read.
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="joojtzu"] I got it free when i brought my 3Ds. It plays different to both mario galaxy and super mario world as ive owned and finished both games. You might of played it which i doubt but you cant give a honest comment upon it with playing once or maybe twice. If you of said the game was crap after a couple quick goes id probaly agreed with you their as i couldnt adjust to it.joojtzu
I never said it plays entirely like either. It play like a mixture of the 2D and 3D Mario games with the level design tailered to fit that gameplay style. The game isn't crap so why would I say it is. What couldn't I adjust to? The 3D? I rarely turn on 3D when playing any 3DS game because I don't like it and haven't needed it to do anything up to this point. You can find my 3DS Collection here: http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/l619/DarkAbyssGaming/Video%20Game%20Collections/ I don't give opinions on games I haven't touched. Reread what i said... i cannot be bothered to make a genuine reply when people cant be assed to read. Yes, I did misread that last line. I apologize for that.
What is up with Namco Bandai? This is one of the reasons why I sold SCV, the lack of content will cause me to turn away from their games. I just hope that Streetfighter x Tekken has full content to justify $60.
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