Robert Kotick- "I want to take the fun out of making video games"

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#51 dragonpuppy
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And he's doing a very good job of it. Gaming will be a much better place without people like him. Too bad all 3 console makerswill bend over backwards to please this raving lunatic...

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#52 Maxyboy13
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If there is a God, he will smite this fat toad...

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Don't insult toads like that! It's highly offensive.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]His company, his policies. Considering how well Activision has been doing lately, I'm not in position to question him.WasntAvailable

Actually it's quite easy to question outright stating you want your employees to be disatisfied with their own work. That's not a good way to make your company look good, and it raises the question why did he do this interview if he didn't really care that the people reading the article were going to be annoyed by it. As far as I'm concerned saying what he has just said can not have a positive impact on peoples impression of the company, and as a CEO he should be spending his time more efficently. It really says alot about him.If Activision starts to lose money, the blame will rest entirely on him, regardless of who really caused the problem. He's setting himself up badly if you ask me.

If this somehow affects Activision stocks, income or profit this fiscal year we will be in position to question him. Until that, the best we can do is say "what a mean person!!! :cry: "
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#54 MJPK
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[QUOTE="river_rat3117"] so, hes the michael bay of video games lol.RedruM_I
Uggghhh! The sight of that name makes me want to kill something.

Michael Bay, Michael Bay, Michael Bay, Michael Bay, Michael Bay, Michael Bay, Michael Bay, Michael Bay.

Now go kill Kotick before he kills gaming

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#55 nintendoboy16
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*sigh* Kotick. What're we going to do.
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#56 SPYDER0416
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Faster = good?

Yeah right, Hideo Kojima delayed MGS4 so much it became the 2008 GotY. GTA IV also took an extra 6 moths coupled with the longet time its taken to make a GTA game.Valve ALWAYS delays their games, took them 10 years for TF2, 6 for Half-Life 2, and... well, just one for Left 4 Dead 2.

Boy I hope this doesn't catch on to other devs.

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#57 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]His company, his policies. Considering how well Activision has been doing lately, I'm not in position to question him.IronBass

Actually it's quite easy to question outright stating you want your employees to be disatisfied with their own work. That's not a good way to make your company look good, and it raises the question why did he do this interview if he didn't really care that the people reading the article were going to be annoyed by it. As far as I'm concerned saying what he has just said can not have a positive impact on peoples impression of the company, and as a CEO he should be spending his time more efficently. It really says alot about him.If Activision starts to lose money, the blame will rest entirely on him, regardless of who really caused the problem. He's setting himself up badly if you ask me.

If this somehow affects Activision stocks, income or profit this fiscal year we will be in position to question him. Until that, the best we can do is say "what a mean person!!! :cry: "

You can't have a question after it has been answered. We can question him all we want now, we just can't prove he's wrong, that's what questioning means. I say his behaviour is highly questionable.

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#58 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Faster = good?

Yeah right, Hideo Kojima delayed MGS4 so much it became the 2008 GotY. GTA IV also took an extra 6 moths coupled with the longet time its taken to make a GTA game.Valve ALWAYS delays their games, took them 10 years for TF2, 6 for Half-Life 2, and... well, just one for Left 4 Dead 2.

Boy I hope this doesn't catch on to other devs.

And neither Valve, Konami or Take-Two are as successful as Activision. He's a CEO. He cares about $, not about MGS4 being GameSpot's GOTY.
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#59 Wasdie  Moderator
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This is why I really hate Activision. Their leadership is really what is going to ruin this industry.

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#60 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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He likes being hated it seems.
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You can't have a question after it has been answered. We can question him all we want now, we just can't prove he's wrong, that's what questioning means. I say his behaviour is highly questionable.WasntAvailable
I can't question a CEO without a solid basis. He looking like an ******* is not a solid basis when the company is doing as well as it is.
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#62 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]You can't have a question after it has been answered. We can question him all we want now, we just can't prove he's wrong, that's what questioning means. I say his behaviour is highly questionable.IronBass
I can't question a CEO without a solid basis. He looking like an ******* is not a solid basis when the company is doing as well as it is.

If that's not a good enough basis for you, there's allways the fact that there are now more than 10guitar heros since 2005. Is there some reason I can't question someones behaviour simply because they are making money? I don't think so, simply being succesful does not make you immune from critisism. I very much doubt the succes of the company is down to his own efforts. He didn'thave any involvement in developing titles, and you can onlykeep remaking the same IP for so long beforeit gets stale.Actitivsion don't even need to try, it's running on automatic.

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Is there some reason I can't question someones behaviour simply because they are making money? I don't think so, simply being succesful does not make you immune from critisism.WasntAvailable

He's a CEO. The only way I'm gonna judge him is as a CEO. As a CEO, his function is to keep his company successful. And he's doing it, so I will not question him.

I don't know him enough to judge him as a person. And even if I did, I have no interest on doing it. I have my own garbage.

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#64 shoryuken_
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Silly Robert, no wonder your company publishes crap games.

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Silly Robert, Trix are for kids.

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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]You can't have a question after it has been answered. We can question him all we want now, we just can't prove he's wrong, that's what questioning means. I say his behaviour is highly questionable.IronBass
I can't question a CEO without a solid basis. He looking like an ******* is not a solid basis when the company is doing as well as it is.

And I'm sure the shareholders and execs at Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, AIG and all those corp. thought it was a great idea to do what was needed for short-term profit instead of long-term sustainability. And they were so on the money with that way of business....

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#66 Phaze-Two
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His company, his policies. Considering how well Activision has been doing lately, I'm not in position to question him.IronBass

you're a consumer... of course you are in a position to question him. unless you work for activision.

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#67 Sully28
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I do not understand how people who are aware of what this guy says and the crap activision has been pulling latley can still buy activison published games. You are just feeding the fire they are throwing around. The only way to stop this garbage is by speaking with your dollar, dont buy their friggen games. I hope to god this doesnt last, activision really is turning into the cancer of gaming.

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#68 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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you're a consumer... of course you are in a position to question him. unless you work for activision.Phaze-Two
As a consumer I can question his products , what I actually pay for.
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#69 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"] Is there some reason I can't question someones behaviour simply because they are making money? I don't think so, simply being succesful does not make you immune from critisism.IronBass

He's a CEO. The only way I'm gonna judge him is as a CEO. As a CEO, his function is to keep his company successful. And he's doing it, so I will not question him.

I don't know him enough to judge him as a person. And even if I did, I have no interest on doing it. I have my own garbage.

If you say so. As far as I'm concerned saying bad things about your own company is not a good way of doing your job as a CEO, so I will question his behaviour, because frankly it should be questioned.

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#70 Maxyboy13
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there's allways the fact that there are now more than 10guitar heros since 2005.

WasntAvailable

Seriously. Look at this list of hero games. There are seven in this year alone.

2005 Guitar Hero

2006 Guitar Hero II

2007 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

2008 Guitar Hero World Tour

2009 Guitar Hero 5

2007 Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s

2008 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith

2009 Guitar Hero: Metallica

2009 Guitar Hero Smash Hits

2009 Guitar Hero: Van Halen

2009 Band Hero

2009 DJ Hero

2008 Guitar Hero: On Tour

2008 Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades

2009 Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits

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#71 sethman410
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Whats going on with this guy? He seriously makes me wanna kick him in the private spot.
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#72 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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If you say so. As far as I'm concerned saying bad things about your own company is not a good way of doing your job as a CEO, so I will question his behaviour, because frankly it should be questioned.WasntAvailable

You are welcome to do it.

Just that I don't think your reasons to question him are solid enough for meto do the same.

But that's what this place is about, isn't it? To have a healthy exchange of views. :)

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#73 Kickinurass
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Looks like I'm done supporting Activision :?

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#74 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

there's allways the fact that there are now more than 10guitar heros since 2005.

Maxyboy13

Seriously. Look at this list of hero games. There are seven in this year alone.

2005 Guitar Hero

2006 Guitar Hero II

2007 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

2008 Guitar Hero World Tour

2009 Guitar Hero 5

2007 Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s

2008 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith

2009 Guitar Hero: Metallica

2009 Guitar Hero Smash Hits

2009 Guitar Hero: Van Halen

2009 Band Hero

2009 DJ Hero

2008 Guitar Hero: On Tour

2008 Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades

2009 Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits

I'm just wondering how long they can keep that up. That can't be sustainable. Activision should really be looking at new IPs about now if you ask me. Right now they have prototype, they will need something more to fall back on when Guitar Hero goes Tony Hawks, which is probably inveitable.

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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]His company, his policies. Considering how well Activision has been doing lately, I'm not in position to question him.IronBass

Actually it's quite easy to question outright stating you want your employees to be disatisfied with their own work. That's not a good way to make your company look good, and it raises the question why did he do this interview if he didn't really care that the people reading the article were going to be annoyed by it. As far as I'm concerned saying what he has just said can not have a positive impact on peoples impression of the company, and as a CEO he should be spending his time more efficently. It really says alot about him.If Activision starts to lose money, the blame will rest entirely on him, regardless of who really caused the problem. He's setting himself up badly if you ask me.

If this somehow affects Activision stocks, income or profit this fiscal year we will be in position to question him. Until that, the best we can do is say "what a mean person!!! :cry: "

There is more than one way too gleen profits. People are reacting to him as a guy and really that is all he is bottom line. CEO is just a title for a job really. He appears to be a self serving arrogant dink.

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#76 ThePRAssassin
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Bobby Kotick says this stuff because he knows tomorrow everyone will just proceed to bash "M$" or "Micro$cam" or whatever other stupid names forumites have given them. He gets his lulz and everyone forgets it by the next day.

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#77 cutmaclass1
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And yet there are people who are still in denial about Activision's foul business practices. If I had a nickel for everyone who said "But it's just business!!".... How can anyone cry foul on a man who chooses to boycott this terrible company when Bobby Kotick is explicitly stating that he dislikes fostering creativity and fun in the industry that thrives on just that? Boycott Activision. If you choose to support them, then 1) you can't plausibly say you care about the face of the gaming industry and 2) You have no right to complain about the horrible stagnancy of ideas that plagues the modern gaming market.
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

there's allways the fact that there are now more than 10guitar heros since 2005.

Maxyboy13

Seriously. Look at this list of hero games. There are seven in this year alone.

2005 Guitar Hero

2006 Guitar Hero II

2007 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

2008 Guitar Hero World Tour

2009 Guitar Hero 5

2007 Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s

2008 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith

2009 Guitar Hero: Metallica

2009 Guitar Hero Smash Hits

2009 Guitar Hero: Van Halen

2009 Band Hero

2009 DJ Hero

2008 Guitar Hero: On Tour

2008 Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades

2009 Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits

Amazing, thats amazing. Activision just wants to release the same games always.
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#79 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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If you choose to support them, then 1) you can't plausibly say you care about the face of the gaming industry and 2) You have no right to complain about the horrible stagnancy of ideas that plagues the modern gaming market.cutmaclass1
I could care less about the the face of the gaming industry and I love the "horrible stagnancy of ideas that plagues the modern gaming market" (this has been an awesome gen, after all). Can I has some MW2? :D
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#80 Yandere
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

there's allways the fact that there are now more than 10guitar heros since 2005.

Maxyboy13

Seriously. Look at this list of hero games. There are seven in this year alone.

2005 Guitar Hero

2006 Guitar Hero II

2007 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

2008 Guitar Hero World Tour

2009 Guitar Hero 5

2007 Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s

2008 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith

2009 Guitar Hero: Metallica

2009 Guitar Hero Smash Hits

2009 Guitar Hero: Van Halen

2009 Band Hero

2009 DJ Hero

2008 Guitar Hero: On Tour

2008 Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades

2009 Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits

Looking at the huge increase of games in 2009 I wonder what 2010 will bring.

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#81 VendettaRed07
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Robert Kotnick =Dr. Robotnick

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I swear I'm going to shove a drum set so far up his back port that he's going to be able to ace "Through the fire and flames" on expert + with his teeth.

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#83 shani_boy101
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And I want to take thearrogant smirk off of hisface by taking a shovel to it. Or is that mabye just a bit harsh...?

WasntAvailable

NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING is too harsh when it somes to dealing with Robert Kotick.

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#84 SpinoRaptor24
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It's time we gamers stopped supporting Activision.

And no, you can't say "I'll stop supporting Activision after Guitar Hero 5 or Modern Warfare 2". It's as stupid as saying "I'll put out this fire burning here just as soon as I finish pouring gasoline on it."

By buying more games from Activision you're only giving more money to Kotick and his company. We gamers can live without another rehashed, button mashing Guitar Hero game or another generic shooter like COD.

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#85 8Tango
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THATS IT! I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS GUY *Takes out belt sander* LEMME AT HIM!
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#86 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

He is a CEO and he wants his employees to work fast and efficiently

I would do the same if I was in his position

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yeah because in this form of entertainment faster = good.............. :| compare it to music or even movies.

Well said this man. Games like Music and Films are at there best easily to be considered an Art form and certainly a form of expression.
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#87 Vesica_Prime
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I'd have to admit Activision is becoming a sort of "EA" by churning out games like a photocopier and feels that they can do anything with their games (e.g the price hike of MW2.)

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#88 delta3074
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does anyone know this jerks gamertag?, i would actually pay for LIVE, just so i could teabag him online, the guy is an absolute moron, i have been gaming since 84 and never have i heard such a load of crap come out of a CEO's mouth, activision should fire this jerk before he completely ruins activisions reputation in the games industry, i pity the guys poor kids (if he has any) if he treats them the way he treats his employee's.
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#89 joel_c17
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Jeeze activision are really grating my cheese lately!!!
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="nofriekinlemons"] 2) people how should we name Activision fanboys? :D

The Ticks. :D
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Activision is the kind of company that causes mass suicide among their employees, like that french telecom business.
You know how that happens?
Because ALL they see is money, and not people. So the company makes many rules and gets dehumanized, the people get forgotten and punished for being human. And as they pretend to be droids, the true talent has left or has been silenced in Your company, because none of them can do their work there to push the media forward. Slowly it devours human lives, but it's money will be pouring in until the other companies outthink them.
When that happens, they will be unable to keep up and they fail.

The sad thing is the company ruining things for everyone because they can get some money out of it. And maybe even worse are the customers, You guys, who fall for it and will allow them to do increasingly worse things for years until they go down. What's it going to take guys? What's it going to take for You to say no? We first need some suicides? Or maybe see all gameprices rise? Should we wait until Diablo 3 or 4 gets a commercial interruption every 5 minutes, with the excuse that it's good for gamers to take a break now and then? What does it take?

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#92 delta3074
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Activision is the kind of company that causes mass suicide among their employees, like that french telecom business.
You know how that happens?
Because ALL they see is money, and not people. So the company makes many rules and gets dehumanized, the people get forgotten and punished for being human. And as they pretend to be droids, the true talent has left or has been silenced in Your company, because none of them can do their work there to push the media forward. Slowly it devours human lives, but it's money will be pouring in until the other companies outthink them.
When that happens, they will be unable to keep up and they fail.

The sad thing is the company ruining things for everyone because they can get some money out of it. And maybe even worse are the customers, You guys, who fall for it and will allow them to do increasingly worse things for years until they go down. What's it going to take guys? What's it going to take for You to say no? We first need some suicides? Or maybe see all gameprices rise? Should we wait until Diablo 3 or 4 gets a commercial interruption every 5 minutes, with the excuse that it's good for gamers to take a break now and then? What does it take?

KungfuKitten
this guys right, we gamers hold the true power in this industry, we decide which companys will rise and fall, we can destroy activision purely by refusing to buy there products, for the sake of all the talented devs at activision we should boycott there products until they fire kotick and change there ways, remember when MS tried charging for windows live? the hermits stood together and refused to pay, and windows live is still free, it was consumer pressure that forced MS to give a 3 year warranty for RROD, as long as we buy activisions games they will continue down the road they are travelling, no one here likes what they are doing, question is, are you going to do anything about? i am, i swear i will not buy another activision game until kotick is fired.
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#93 WardCleaver02
Member since 2007 • 1559 Posts

While, I don't know if he actually meant create a work place that is not fun, I have to agree with him somewhat.

When video games started to become popular, companies had a hard time finding qualified people to make games. The people they hired were in such demand that they could get away with behaviours that would get most of us fired.

Most of the people on the creative-side, had no clue about the business-side of making games. The creative-side people felt the shouldn't be "rushed" to meet deadlines. Some of these people went on to head some of the development studios and kept that ethic; the ole, "the game is released when it is finished" mantra.

Unfortunately, the longer you take to develop a game, the more likely you are to go over budget. Further, there are no guarantees that the extra time spent on the game is going to translate into extra sales, or even enough to recoup the costs. What happens is that a game is released a doesn't sell enough to cover the costs. For a smaller "independent" studio, this canmean "game over" (pun intended). You either remain independent and hope that you can secure funding for your next game from a private source, or you team with an established publisher to bankroll some of the costs.

Maybe Kotlick meant that he stopped practices likeemployees playing video games and watching movies during work hours to get "inspired". Obviously, he doesn't want to make their actually work devoid of fun. He sounds like he just expects them to do their jobs as hired.

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#94 FireEmblem_Man
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He is enjoying our cries for his amusement, so my advice is to not pay attention to him.

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#95 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

He is a CEO and he wants his employees to work fast and efficiently

I would do the same if I was in his position

thelastguy

yeah because in this form of entertainment faster = good.............. :| compare it to music or even movies.

Well fast as possible of course

Would you not do the same if you could maximize use of time? You have to remember, he is the CEO of the company, it is all numbers and dollars for him

nintendo and blizzard do it right " its done when its done, and no time before"
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#96 King-Tigre
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Yeahshigeru miyamoto and Hideo Kojima are probably going to take out Kotick. I can see it now, Miyamoto pretending he is mario jumping on kotick's head while Kojima gets ready for the sleeper hold.

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#97 delta3074
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[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"] yeah because in this form of entertainment faster = good.............. :| compare it to music or even movies. surrealnumber5

Well fast as possible of course

Would you not do the same if you could maximize use of time? You have to remember, he is the CEO of the company, it is all numbers and dollars for him

nintendo and blizzard do it right " its done when its done, and no time before"

that's a spot on attitude if you ask me, i remember bungie saying Halo2 was not as good as it could have been because of time constraints impsosed on them by MS.