Rookie in charge, Gaming on a decline.

Yeah, Microsoft has a long ways to go when it comes to video gaming. 360 fans say they have the games, but comparing it to 2 systems that been out for 6 months, of course they will. Let's compare them to past generations and see how they stand.

First 18 months Playstation 2  AAA titles = 20
Tekken Tag Tournament
Fifa 2001
SSX
NFL Madden 2001
Guitar Freaks 3rd Mix
Rayman 2 Revolution
Twisted Metal Black
NBA Street
Gran Turismo 3: A-spec
Madden NFL 2002
Resident Evil: Code Verinoca
Devil May Cry
Grand Theft Auto III
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 (10)
SSX Tricky
Metal Gear Sold 2: Sons of Liberty
NFL 2k2
Final Fantasy X
NBA 2k2
Virtua Fighter 4

First 18 months of Gamecube   AAA titles = 8
Star Wars Rouge Squadron
Tony Hawk 3
Eternal Darkness
NFL 2k3
Super Monkey Ball 2
Tony Hawk 4
Metriod Prime
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker

 
First 18 months of Dreamcast  AAA titles = 20
Soul Calibur (10)
NFL 2k
NFL 2k1
Tony Hawk 2
NBA 2k1
Test Drive LeMans
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Tony Hawk
Rayman 2
Quake 3 Arena
Skies of Arcadia
Ultimate Fighting Championship
Dead or Alive
F355 Challenge
NFL Blitz 2001
Jet Grind Radio
Samba de Amigo
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Marvel vs. Capcom

First 18 months of Xbox360   AAA titles = 5
Gears of War
Oblivion
Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter
Rainbow Six Vegas
Perfect Dark Zero

Notice two things about the charts. First, look how far behind Xbox360 is compare to Dreamcast and PS2, yet 360 fans say they have a "bunch" of great games. I think the standards of "bunch" has fallen. Secondly, look at the diversity library of the PS2, Gamecube, and the Dreamcast. Every genre is there on the list. Now, look at 360 list..."bang, bang I shot you down. bang, bang you hit the ground"

How did the Xbox do its first 18 months? It seems suspect that you left it out.Jandurin

Trust me...if you a 360 fan you glad that I did. 

yet if you look at of its AA games that would have been AAA if it was reviewed by last gens standards,it has a great lineuplazzordude

lol, I'm sure you know what this is...If, but, should've...lol 

Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.Vandalvideo

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault? 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.shungokustasu

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault? 

[QUOTE="lazzordude"]yet if you look at of its AA games that would have been AAA if it was reviewed by last gens standards,it has a great lineupshungokustasu

lol, I'm sure you know what this is...If, but, should've...lol 

Yeah, Microsoft has NOTHING to do with the AAA games that come out or what their genre is. That is up to the developers, so take up your tirade with them.Verge_6

I have to say, you can put the partial blame on Microsoft. Like most of you putting the blame on Sony for the PS3 not being worth $600 because it doesn't have game, right? 

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Yeah, Microsoft has NOTHING to do with the AAA games that come out or what their genre is. That is up to the developers, so take up your tirade with them.shungokustasu

I have to say, you can put the partial blame on Microsoft. Like most of you putting the blame on Sony for the PS3 not being worth $600 because it doesn't have game, right? 

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Yeah, Microsoft has NOTHING to do with the AAA games that come out or what their genre is. That is up to the developers, so take up your tirade with them.shungokustasu

I have to say, you can put the partial blame on Microsoft. Like most of you putting the blame on Sony for the PS3 not being worth $600 because it doesn't have game, right?

And the same can be said for Sony for not securing enough games that could have been exclusive to their platform. It works both ways. 

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.Vandalvideo

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

Right, in 6 months? Are you happy about Microsoft for having 2 exclusive AAA for 18 months? 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.shungokustasu

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

Right, in 6 months? Are you happy about Microsoft for having 2 exclusive AAA for 18 months? 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.shungokustasu

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault? 

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Yeah, Microsoft has NOTHING to do with the AAA games that come out or what their genre is. That is up to the developers, so take up your tirade with them.Verge_6

I have to say, you can put the partial blame on Microsoft. Like most of you putting the blame on Sony for the PS3 not being worth $600 because it doesn't have game, right?

And the same can be said for Sony for not securing enough games that could have been exclusive to their platform. It works both ways.

but in your original post you said it didn't work both ways. You said Microsoft had NOTHING to do with AAA titles comes out on their system. So which one is it?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.shungokustasu

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Yeah, Microsoft has NOTHING to do with the AAA games that come out or what their genre is. That is up to the developers, so take up your tirade with them.shungokustasu

I have to say, you can put the partial blame on Microsoft. Like most of you putting the blame on Sony for the PS3 not being worth $600 because it doesn't have game, right?

And the same can be said for Sony for not securing enough games that could have been exclusive to their platform. It works both ways.

but in your original post you said it didn't work both ways. You said Microsoft had NOTHING to do with AAA titles comes out on their system. So which one is it?

You had implied that it was entirely Microsoft's fault that all thier AA games now are shooter-based. They aren't entirely innocent in this matter, you are right. But the developers are the ones that are to blame for this.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.jg4xchamp

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

That was the point of this thread. To prove that this gen is not up to par with past gens. I have to say the reason for that is because Microsoft is ahead of the pack right now. People are "satisfied" for what they're doing instead of asking for better. They rather bash Sony for coming with expensive ideas for next gen, and remain content with a lacklusting library that Microsoft has. 

what does that have to do with microsoft ? JPOBS

Microsoft has absolutely no control over the matter of lack-lusting AAA library? 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.shungokustasu

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

Lol, that's a good point.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]what does that have to do with microsoft ? shungokustasu

Microsoft has absolutely no control over the matter of lack-lusting AAA library? 

I think you were looking for lackluster.  :P

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]what does that have to do with microsoft ? shungokustasu

Microsoft has absolutely no control over the matter of lack-lusting AAA library?

and because the 360 doesnt have 20 AAA's is 18 months gaming is on a decline?

Thats doesnt make sense. The ps3 and wii arent exactly racking em up either, and as technology gets better, it takes longer/harder to make games. Not to mention, microsoft has little control over how well 3rd parties make games.  

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.shungokustasu

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

That was the point of this thread. To prove that this gen is not up to par with past gens. I have to say the reason for that is because Microsoft is ahead of the pack right now. People are "satisfied" for what they're doing instead of asking for better. They rather bash Sony for coming with expensive ideas for next gen, and remain content with a lacklusting library that Microsoft has.

You say your threads point is to prove this gen aint up to par with past gen. But then again THIS gen has only lasted for less than 2 YEARS! Give it more time. As of now your thread is pointless.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Yeah, Microsoft has NOTHING to do with the AAA games that come out or what their genre is. That is up to the developers, so take up your tirade with them.Vandalvideo

I have to say, you can put the partial blame on Microsoft. Like most of you putting the blame on Sony for the PS3 not being worth $600 because it doesn't have game, right?

That will all change this fall :D.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.shungokustasu

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

That was the point of this thread. To prove that this gen is not up to par with past gens. I have to say the reason for that is because Microsoft is ahead of the pack right now. People are "satisfied" for what they're doing instead of asking for better. They rather bash Sony for coming with expensive ideas for next gen, and remain content with a lacklusting library that Microsoft has. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Thats more the fault of the developers than the platform makers. You can't control the ammount of AAA titles you make unless you pump out a ton of first party titles. Microsoft's lead has nothing to do with the ammount of AAA titles. Just look at all the other platforms. AAA titles are in an extreme drougth right now save on PCs. Its merely developers.Solid-CELL

Good point. Does that mean the lack of AAA games on the PS3 is not Sony fault?

That was the point of this thread. To prove that this gen is not up to par with past gens. I have to say the reason for that is because Microsoft is ahead of the pack right now. People are "satisfied" for what they're doing instead of asking for better. They rather bash Sony for coming with expensive ideas for next gen, and remain content with a lacklusting library that Microsoft has.

You say your threads point is to prove this gen aint up to par with past gen. But then again THIS gen has only lasted for less than 2 YEARS! Give it more time. As of now your thread is pointless.

What!? 12 months PS2 was solo and churned out more AAA did than Xbox360. 12 months Dremcast was solo and churned out more AAA than Xbox360 did. You are the prime example of being satisfied with the little Xbox360 has done. I never compare the whole gen to this gen. I did the first 18 months, and as you can totally see this gen is wayyyyyy behind.

So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?waynehead895

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that? 

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?shungokustasu

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?shungokustasu

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that? 

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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?JPOBS

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

The question wasn't about AAA games, but why is it taking so long for Sony to save gaming. Sony will save gaming from Microsoft. You can bet your last dollar on that. 

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?shungokustasu

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

Nope. 

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?shungokustasu

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

The question wasn't about AAA games, but why is it taking so long for Sony to save gaming. Sony will save gaming from Microsoft. You can bet your last dollar on that. 

Sony will save gaming from Microsoft. You can bet your last dollar on that. shungokustasu

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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?waynehead895

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

Nope.

Sadly, I think you already had an answer to your own question. 

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?shungokustasu

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

The question wasn't about AAA games, but why is it taking so long for Sony to save gaming. Sony will save gaming from Microsoft. You can bet your last dollar on that.

I think I have a better chance if I put this dollar in a slot machine... 

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?shungokustasu

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

The question wasn't about AAA games, but why is it taking so long for Sony to save gaming. Sony will save gaming from Microsoft. You can bet your last dollar on that.

Yep, Microsoft is the big bad wolf, out to ruin gaming for everyone, and Sony is the hunter, in it for the good of man. :roll:

If what Sony is doing right now is 'saving gaming', then I do not want to see what their idea would be of ruining it. 

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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?shungokustasu

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

The question wasn't about AAA games, but why is it taking so long for Sony to save gaming. Sony will save gaming from Microsoft. You can bet your last dollar on that.

Now, the ps3 isnt exactly a AAA machine so tell me again how sony will save gaming at this rate?  

tell me again how sony will save gaming at this rate?  JPOBS

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]So what's taking Sony so long to regain the lead so they can "save" gaming?JPOBS

Simple, media and their image. They now have to work on image to get the respect back from the consumer. Do you believe that?

The question wasn't about AAA games, but why is it taking so long for Sony to save gaming. Sony will save gaming from Microsoft. You can bet your last dollar on that.

Now, the ps3 isnt exactly a AAA machine so tell me again how sony will save gaming at this rate?

By showing that you CAN price your console outside of the casual price range, and STILL win. Don't you agree that this is the first step to saving gaming? 

Gamespot's standards have changed over the years and gotten tougher. That is just the reality. You can look at all the systems' games in the last 3 years to see the evidence.