RPG System Wars Poll: Who are the best of RPG developers?(Explain)

Reason for those 4 listed:

Bethesda made two high rated rpgs this time

Bioware made good console Rpgs

Square Enix is obvious

and for Atlus they published GOY and made other rpgs

I picked Square Enix because they do good handhelds and consoles

Bioware/Bethseda at the top

SE at the end of all RPG devs.

Bioware made good console Rpgs

ghost392

I hope you realize that Bioware is a PC developer first and a console developer second

and for Atlus they made GOY

ghost392

I see you haven't looked into how publishers and developers are two different things.

Also I have no favorite, different (good) RPG developers are good for different reasons.

Are we talking JRPGs/WRPGs only or MMORPGs as well? Forgot the developer off the top of my head, but the team behind the Persona series is one of if not the best. But my vote goes to Bethesda, Fallout and Oblivion were by far the best RPGs of the past 5 years.

Square-Enix, if their entire developement history is considered, not just since the merger. They knew how to spit out the hits.

Otherwise Atlus is my second choice. I shouldnt even have to explain why.

Morrowind is the all time best game EVER MADE. (lol imo) And some people think they're critics and say ME2 isnt an rpg its just a tps! It has "stripped down" RPG elements.

Do you guys know what ROLE PLAYING GAME means. Play the role. You dont have to have skill trees for that. No im not saying every game where you play a character is an rpg but you KNOW what I mean. I loved Morrowind and really like Oblivion, Me1 and Me2 are insane as well as both Kotor. So overall id have to say Bioware. I also hear Dragon Age is AMAZING.

Nintendo

Pokemon - Best turnbased online RPG with a huge competitive scene.

Fire Emblem- Father of the SRPG genre also the best SRPG game eva

Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi RPG - Awesomely funny. Best Comedy in RPGs ever

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but Bioware has been consistently releasing hits every year for the past decade.

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but right now Bioware has been consistently releasing hits for the past decade.

Blue-Sky

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but right now Bioware has been consistently releasing hits for the past decade.

farnham

KOTR was 2nd best and only because jade empire had better art dirrection variety and mini games

Argh! the poll is evil! i can't pick both bioware and bethesda.

Seriously, they both make some topclass RPG's whether it being Oblivion and fallout, or Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins, they are all awesome RPG's :oops:

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but right now Bioware has been consistently releasing hits for the past decade.

farnham

Jade Empire has an average score of 8/10 across all the major reviewers, if that's their "worst" then that says a lot.

[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but right now Bioware has been consistently releasing hits for the past decade.

Blue-Sky

Jade Empire has an average score of 8/10 across all the major reviewers, if that's their "worst" then that says a lot.

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but right now Bioware has been consistently releasing hits for the past decade.

really.. there have been duds like jade empire you knowfarnham

Jade Empire has an average score of 8/10 across all the major reviewers, if that's their "worst" then that says a lot.

[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Jade Empire has an average score of 8/10 across all the major reviewers, if that's their "worst" then that says a lot.

dreman999

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="farnham"] i dont care about reviewers.. i just care about the game i played and that wasnt really good.. great graphics and all but the combat system did not click with me and the camera was pretty bad toofarnham

blizzard for making diablo and diablo 2 >.>

my two favorite rpgs ever

From that poll, Atlus. I've really liked the SMT, Etrian Odyssey and Super Robot Taisen games this gen, particularly the first on the list.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but right now Bioware has been consistently releasing hits for the past decade.

farnham

really.. there have been duds like jade empire you know

Objectively, Bioware is top right now.

SquareEnix was a great dev back in the 90's, but they make dog turds now....and FFXIII is a steaming pile.

Bethesda is the best developer.IIRS3II_H1TMAN

[QUOTE="IIRS3II_H1TMAN"]Bethesda is the best developer.BattleTurtles

Bioware

Best plots

Interesting characters

great game play

Bioware and atlus

Haven't played FFXIII, but for me it's still Square-Enix (yes, this is mostly based on nostalgia)

Off-topic: yet i have to congrat from software for their work on Demon's Souls! Great, great game, i'm playing it now, and i can easily see why it was chosen as GOTY here on Gamespot.

[QUOTE="IIRS3II_H1TMAN"]Bethesda is the best developer.BattleTurtles

CD Projekt Red for story and Taleworlds for combat.

Squaresoft is pretty much the best RPG developer to date...but those days are over (Nostalgia'd)

Namco Tales Studio (old name: wolf team) - god dammit I love the Tales of Series

tri-Ace too - Valkyrie profile/Star ocean series were ****ing amazing as well

The fact that bioware is winning saddens me. What happened to the 90's man?

Squaresoft is pretty much the best RPG developer to date...but those days are over (Nostalgia'd)

Namco Tales Studio (old name: wolf team) - god dammit I love the Tales of Series

tri-Ace too - Valkyrie profile/Star ocean series were ****ing amazing as well

The fact that bioware is winning saddens me. What happened to the 90's man?

TalesofRaGnArOk

[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

Squaresoft is pretty much the best RPG developer to date...but those days are over (Nostalgia'd)

Namco Tales Studio (old name: wolf team) - god dammit I love the Tales of Series

tri-Ace too - Valkyrie profile/Star ocean series were ****ing amazing as well

The fact that bioware is winning saddens me. What happened to the 90's man?

kidcool189

Squaresoft

vs.

Bioware

It's kind of obvious who's king here.

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

Squaresoft is pretty much the best RPG developer to date...but those days are over (Nostalgia'd)

Namco Tales Studio (old name: wolf team) - god dammit I love the Tales of Series

tri-Ace too - Valkyrie profile/Star ocean series were ****ing amazing as well

The fact that bioware is winning saddens me. What happened to the 90's man?

TalesofRaGnArOk

Squaresoft

vs.

Bioware

It's kind of obvious who's king here.

More doesn't meant better, not to mention a lot of those games were not developed by Square

Frankly i'd take Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Baal over any Square game, and I've always been a fan of Square

[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Bioware for CONSISTENCY

They may not have the best resume, but right now Bioware has been consistently releasing hits for the past decade.

Blue-Sky

Jade Empire has an average score of 8/10 across all the major reviewers, if that's their "worst" then that says a lot.

Black Isle / (now Obsidian) and Troika games were the best in the business. and to this day they still haven't been topped. Planescape Torment, the fallout games, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: bloodlines, Kotor2, Neverwinter Nights 2 , Icewind dale, Temple of Elemental evil, etc... were all fantastic

The thing is with both Black Isle and Troika they were originally the same company. Black Isle made Fallout 1 and 2 and Planescape tormentabout 1/2 the staff left after a disagreement with interplay to form Troika games... The other half stayed at black isle and helped make baldur's gate 1 and 2 and icewind dale 1 and 2. After interplay went bankrupt they layed off the black isle guys who then went on to form Obsidian along with some members of Troika as they didn't last either (after the PC game crash in 2005 )

Since then Obsidian the new company has made Kotor 2 which was a great game just rushed at the end due to Lucas Arts making the devs release it. They have also made Neverwinter nights 2 a great sequal to biowares nwn1 which had 3 expansions and is the last 3rd edition (and crpg) AD&D game on the market. Now they are working on Alpha Protocol and Fallout: New Vegas, both titles will be very Story Driven much more so then Bethesdas fallout 3 as its what this dev is known for.

Personally I can't wait. Black Isle, Troika, Old school (pc centric) Bioware, Old School (non-mmo)Blizzard were the main reasons I never bought a console last gen. There were too many great pc rpgs and then it all crashed in 2005 when the devs started going out of business or being forced to make console games.

[QUOTE="TalesofRaGnArOk"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"] now now, im also not really a fan of bioware games either...and no, they werent all big in the 90's(up to my knowledge, the first baulders gate is the only one from them in the 90's)

but they do have a real beefy lineup of quality games from the past decade

ohthemanatee

Squaresoft

vs.

Bioware

It's kind of obvious who's king here.

More doesn't meant better, not to mention a lot of those games were not developed by Square

Frankly i'd take Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Baal over any Square game, and I've always been a fan of Square

Over Final Fantasy? Chrono Trigger? Secret of Mana? ...

Over Final Fantasy? Chrono Trigger? Secret of Mana? ...

TalesofRaGnArOk

I'll admit I never played Secret of Mana, but I played the both chrono games and ever Final Fantasy game up to X-2 and my answer is yes.

Morrowind is the all time best game EVER MADE. (lol imo) And some people think they're critics and say ME2 isnt an rpg its just a tps! It has "stripped down" RPG elements.

Do you guys know what ROLE PLAYING GAME means. Play the role. You dont have to have skill trees for that. No im not saying every game where you play a character is an rpg but you KNOW what I mean. I loved Morrowind and really like Oblivion, Me1 and Me2 are insane as well as both Kotor. So overall id have to say Bioware. I also hear Dragon Age is AMAZING.

Hathesulacon

Kotor 1 and 2 had loot, so did dragons age, there was no reason to abandon that, and take away the stat based combat. Without that you are playing a shooter with dialog...hence why so many rpg haters loved the game on this forum.

Black Isle / (now Obsidian) and Troika games were the best in the business. and to this day they still haven't been topped. Planescape Torment, the fallout games, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: bloodlines, Kotor2, Neverwinter Nights 2 , Icewind dale, Temple of Elemental evil, etc... were all fantastic

The thing is with both Black Isle and Troika they were originally the same company. Black Isle made Fallout 1 and 2 and Planescape tormentabout 1/2 the staff left after a disagreement with interplay to form Troika games... The other half stayed at black isle and helped make baldur's gate 1 and 2 and icewind dale 1 and 2. After interplay went bankrupt they layed off the black isle guys who then went on to form Obsidian along with some members of Troika as they didn't last either (after the PC game crash in 2005 )

Since then Obsidian the new company has made Kotor 2 which was a great game just rushed at the end due to Lucas Arts making the devs release it. They have also made Neverwinter nights 2 a great sequal to biowares nwn1 which had 3 expansions and is the last 3rd edition (and crpg) AD&D game on the market. Now they are working on Alpha Protocol and Fallout: New Vegas, both titles will be very Story Driven much more so then Bethesdas fallout 3 as its what this dev is known for.

Personally I can't wait. Black Isle, Troika, Old school (pc centric) Bioware, Old School (non-mmo)Blizzard were the main reasons I never bought a console last gen. There were too many great pc rpgs and then it all crashed in 2005 when the devs started going out of business or being forced to make console games.

Midnightshade29

Neverwinter nights 2 wasn't all that great if you ask me, the OC was pretty boring up until chapter III

Mask of the betrayer however is excelent

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Morrowind is the all time best game EVER MADE. (lol imo) And some people think they're critics and say ME2 isnt an rpg its just a tps! It has "stripped down" RPG elements.

Do you guys know what ROLE PLAYING GAME means. Play the role. You dont have to have skill trees for that. No im not saying every game where you play a character is an rpg but you KNOW what I mean. I loved Morrowind and really like Oblivion, Me1 and Me2 are insane as well as both Kotor. So overall id have to say Bioware. I also hear Dragon Age is AMAZING.

Midnightshade29

Kotor 1 and 2 had loot, so did dragons age, there was no reason to abandon that, and take away the stat based combat. Without that you are playing a shooter with dialog...hence why so many rpg haters loved the game on this forum.

didn't you create a thread criticizing Mass effect 2 only to discover you hadn't even played the game?

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

Black Isle / (now Obsidian) and Troika games were the best in the business. and to this day they still haven't been topped. Planescape Torment, the fallout games, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: bloodlines, Kotor2, Neverwinter Nights 2 , Icewind dale, Temple of Elemental evil, etc... were all fantastic

The thing is with both Black Isle and Troika they were originally the same company. Black Isle made Fallout 1 and 2 and Planescape tormentabout 1/2 the staff left after a disagreement with interplay to form Troika games... The other half stayed at black isle and helped make baldur's gate 1 and 2 and icewind dale 1 and 2. After interplay went bankrupt they layed off the black isle guys who then went on to form Obsidian along with some members of Troika as they didn't last either (after the PC game crash in 2005 )

Since then Obsidian the new company has made Kotor 2 which was a great game just rushed at the end due to Lucas Arts making the devs release it. They have also made Neverwinter nights 2 a great sequal to biowares nwn1 which had 3 expansions and is the last 3rd edition (and crpg) AD&D game on the market. Now they are working on Alpha Protocol and Fallout: New Vegas, both titles will be very Story Driven much more so then Bethesdas fallout 3 as its what this dev is known for.

Personally I can't wait. Black Isle, Troika, Old school (pc centric) Bioware, Old School (non-mmo)Blizzard were the main reasons I never bought a console last gen. There were too many great pc rpgs and then it all crashed in 2005 when the devs started going out of business or being forced to make console games.

ohthemanatee

Neverwinter nights 2 wasn't all that great if you ask me, the OC was pretty boring up until chapter III

Mask of the betrayer however is excelent

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Morrowind is the all time best game EVER MADE. (lol imo) And some people think they're critics and say ME2 isnt an rpg its just a tps! It has "stripped down" RPG elements.

Do you guys know what ROLE PLAYING GAME means. Play the role. You dont have to have skill trees for that. No im not saying every game where you play a character is an rpg but you KNOW what I mean. I loved Morrowind and really like Oblivion, Me1 and Me2 are insane as well as both Kotor. So overall id have to say Bioware. I also hear Dragon Age is AMAZING.

ohthemanatee

Kotor 1 and 2 had loot, so did dragons age, there was no reason to abandon that, and take away the stat based combat. Without that you are playing a shooter with dialog...hence why so many rpg haters loved the game on this forum.

didn't you create a thread criticizing Mass effect 2 only to discover you hadn't even played the game?