Rumor: 343 Developing New Halo Game!

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#1 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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This is super exciting news if true!

https://insider-gaming.com/next-halo-game-development/

It has been claimed that 343 Industries is actively working on the next Halo campaign and that a pivot away from Halo Infinite is taking place as we speak. For months, those still clinging tightly to 2021’s Halo Infinite have been holding out hope that some kind of expansion will be offered up for the game’s campaign, but as time goes on, that’s seeming less and less likely.


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These reports come from the SG Bitcast, a gaming podcast hosted by ‘Seasoned Gaming’, and this specific tidbit of information was handed down by the site’s editor-in-chief, Ains. When asked about the series, Ains stated that there’s a team actively working on ‘the restructure that is building the next generation of Halo on Unreal.’

At the start of 2023, there were concerns regarding the future of Halo, especially amidst layoffs at Microsoft that impacted 343 Industries. Fans were reassured that Halo isn’t going anywhere, but at present, nobody knows what’s next for the series. Over time, the player count ebbs and flows, Halo Infinite keeps getting updated, and even the esports side of the series is plugging away in the background.

If there is a new Halo game in development, what would you like to see from it? It could be years before it hits the market – you’ve got plenty of time to mull that one over.

What say you fellow SW fans? What would you like to see in the new Halo? Battle Royal? More character history into Master Chief? I would love to see them focus more on the single player than the multiplayer personally.

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#2 Pedro
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They need to scrap the shit story and reboot the game.

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#3  Edited By hardwenzen
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Abandoning the ship as quickly as possible, and try to throw the latest failure under the rug😂

I wonder how childish the next game is gonna be like. Will the teen Cortana coming back?🤣🤣🤣Maybe she has a boyfriend in the next game?

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#4 Archangel3371
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Hell yeah! Yes please! I had a great time with Halo: Infinite so definitely on board for another Halo game.

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Gonna suck ass.

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#6 with_teeth26
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I had some fun with infinite's single player but it's still boggles my mind how badly they screwed up with the multiplayer live service aspect of it.

They had a seemingly strong base for the game and just didn't do anything with it. Hopefully they just use a engine thats easier to work with next time because I got a sense that was a big part of the problem

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#7 HalcyonScarlet
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I feel like they should hold that idea and look at seeing if some of the talent from Zenimax or ABK could help or consult.

While making new Halo games is a good thing, there's no need to rush in. Go in carefully, and make sure the problems of the past are done with. And I think the first thing to do is make sure the team is right and they can manage themselves properly.

And like with PS using Bungie for live service consultation, there's a lot of expertise in ABK with live service games and how to run those services well. So they could get some much needed help with Halo multiplayer.

Although I am hearing that Season 4 and the upcoming Season 5 is actually quite good now.

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#8 HalcyonScarlet
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@with_teeth26 said:

I had some fun with infinite's single player but it's still boggles my mind how badly they screwed up with the multiplayer live service aspect of it.

They had a seemingly strong base for the game and just didn't do anything with it. Hopefully they just use a engine thats easier to work with next time because I got a sense that was a big part of the problem

I heard some rumblings that the multiplayer is actually quite good now. Do you know anything about that? Hopefully they use ABKs live service expertise to get things right.

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#9 nepu7supastar7
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@Pedro said:

They need to scrap the shit story and reboot the game.

Scratch that, they need to reboot the whole series! 343i has been desperately clinging on to Bungie's shadow from the beginning of Halo 4 and they just can't measure up to them. 343i is not Bungie and they'll never be Bungie. With that in mind: they should end Bungie's Halo-verse and start their own. One where 343i can be their own lore master and where they can finally stop being compared to the work of their predecessors.

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#10 Pedro
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@nepu7supastar7 said:
@Pedro said:

They need to scrap the shit story and reboot the game.

Scratch that, they need to reboot the whole series! ...

That is what I meant.

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#11 judaspete
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Kinda want to say "Yeah, no shit", but I suppose things were sort of up in the air for a bit with Infinite's reception. Unreal engine is probably a good idea.

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I hope the next one is actually good. I really want a good Halo game with a decent story and not just good multiplayer.

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#13 tjandmia
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Halo. Ugh, really? Talk about beating a dead horse. What could they possible do with the game that would be interesting? The answer is nothing. Like Forza and like Zelda, it's the same game over and over. MS should be putting all its resources in an Elder Scrolls title. It's literally more fun to watch paint dry than to play Halo.

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#14  Edited By ENI232
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I agree about a reboot needed.

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#15 brimmul777
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I liked the single campaign but prefer the multiplayer. But I see now that Halo Infinite was a step down from most previous instalments of Halo. Hopefully it gets a reboot like someone mentioned earlier.

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#16 blaznwiipspman1
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@Archangel3371: yep, it's a great game. I hope they bring out an expansion pack or dlc.

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#17  Edited By mrbojangles25
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I'd like to see 343 do something else, frankly.'

Time to retire Halo, or turn it into a multiplayer-only CoD-clone to keep people thatj ust want multiplayer happy.

I did enjoy Infinite, though.

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I just assumed they were.

I feel a lot of problems of Halo Infinite's development get largely ignored, though parts like the large swaths of outsourcing were covered extensively, and the outsourcing compounds problems of using the Slipspace Engine as those contracted devs weren't up to speed with the engine like they might if they had designed the game around an Unreal Engine instead.

But back to need to outsourcing, IMO what hasn't gotten any attention was the scope of work 343 was burdened with mostly stems from Microsoft's commitment to get the Halo Master Chief Collection onto PC in a near parallel time frame, those nunerous games and their online functionality all in a narrow window, which didn't finish until less than a year before Halo Infinite's launch. Plus working through the pandemic was no doubt tough.

So, sure, using something like Unreal could have helped them way back then, now given they aren't burdened with juggling monumental tasks, I imagine switching engines may actually be counter-productive. Unless they foresee an issue to outsource to contract workers like they did while putting Halo MCC on PC while juggling Infinite's development, it's kind of pointless.

Furthermore, I'm still not sold Unreal Engine 5 is the industry game changer people are assuming it was supposed to be yet. We're still not seeing devs roll games out for it and Epic is still making significant updates to it that still tell me it isn't ready yet. We aren't really seeing the rollout of widespread industry support for it yet, though I've been assured that countless devs are plugging away at developing games for it, I'm curious if they're going through a substantial learning curve or if they are waiting for the UE5 engine to finish adding substantial updates to get the game's where they need them to be. Perhaps Epic themselves have moved their talent to making Fortnite content and utterly forgot to add more support on toward making UE5 a widely adopted industry engine they license for a percentage of sales revenue, because of the shortsightedness of Fortnite revenues and making those EGS deals.

Frankly I see it 50/50 the pros and cons of either sticking with Slipspace or going to UE5. I just hope they make the right choice, and they make that choice based on their own needs. I feel an engine switch would probably be more prompted by all the media attention centering around Halo Infinite's development issues, and might not be the best reason to force the change, and that wouldn't be a good start.

I still feel 343 is creatively capable of making a great Halo game, if circumstance doesn't interfere with their efforts there like it has in the past. With both Halo 5 and Infinite, 343 was busy with Halo MCC versions without much time to work solely on the next entry sequels. I feel a Slipspace designed game will get them there quicker as the outsourcing to contractors doesn't look to be as big as an issue given they're not juggling multiple ambitious projects. UE5 has a learning curve which becomes a major barrier, but also I'm not sold yet Epic is supporting the engine enough to make it viable for the industry at large. And wide industry adoption was kind of the whole point of using UE5 to begin with. Perhaps it really is just better they stuck with Slipspace until UE5 is widely adopted, widely supported, and it shouldn't be a problem switching engines after. Right now, planning on UE5 is a gambit, a leap of faith.

And if I wanna go all tinfoil hat about it, perhaps it's in Epic's better interest to slow roll out UE5 games since they have one of the notable online cash cows out there, and giving the industry tools to put out better and better games runs the risk of taking that away that flow of cash. Just saying, coincidence, Fortnite explodes and they're less interested making getting UE5 into mass adoption. Perhaps even the clowns at Unity figured that out, saw UE5 as a dead end and thought they could use that circumstance to muscle more money away from developers and publishers that used Unity, because Unreal doesn't look to be going anywhere at this point.

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#19  Edited By lamprey263
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Anyhow, despite where they go with the engine, creatively, stick to either a traditional experience with linear set piece designed levels, 4-player co-op, drop the idea of open world please unless they plan to go GaaS.

This is why I like Halo 5 more, the structure, plus the PvE Warzone Firefight is my favorite online experience between the two games, they need more of that. They also had by far some of the best weapon and vehicle variants in Halo 5's online mode, but all that seem to be part of the whole burn card system which they avoided because it's seen as greedy people would spend money on things you can just earn in-game, therefore so went the really cool weapons and vehicles.

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#20  Edited By Silentchief
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That's like saying:

Turn 10 is developing a New Forza....

No shit?

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#21 Heil68
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@Pedro said:
@nepu7supastar7 said:
@Pedro said:

They need to scrap the shit story and reboot the game.

Scratch that, they need to reboot the whole series! ...

That is what I meant.

I would agree with this.

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#22  Edited By Saint-George
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Another 9️⃣/1️⃣0️⃣......Nice👍

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#23 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@silentchief said:

That's like saying:

Turn 10 is developing a New Forza....

No shit?

Whoa, no need to get triggered. This isn't Uncharted 5 Remastered Remake we are talking about here!

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#24  Edited By Silentchief
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@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:

That's like saying:

Turn 10 is developing a New Forza....

No shit?

Whoa, no need to get triggered. This isn't Uncharted 5 Remastered Remake we are talking about here!

I'm not triggered at all but I'm also not excited for the 9th Halo.

They just bought Activision/Blizzard for christ sake. Why not utilize some of those IP's? How about a new FPS or TPS in the Starcraft Universe?

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So far, from what I've heard, it's leading to rebooting Halo franchise all together but truth be told and I say this as a Halo fan since the beginning of Xbox. Let this franchise rest. 343 needs to do something new. I love Halo, but I think Halo: Infinite really raps everything up, nothing left to tell the tale.

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@Zero_epyon said:

I hope the next one is actually good. I really want a good Halo game with a decent story and not just good multiplayer.

ironically, the singleplayer campaign received near universal praise and landed at a 9/10 on GameSpot and 87% on metacritic..

it was the multiplayer that was criticized for not having enough content.. years later that seems to be fixed with Season 5 being met with alot of hype in the Halo community (unfortunately too late for Infinite to be a major player in F2P though)..

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#27 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

Whoa, no need to get triggered. This isn't Uncharted 5 Remastered Remake we are talking about here!

I'm not triggered at all but I'm also not excited for the 9th Halo.

They just bought Activision/Blizzard for christ sake. Why not utilize some of those IP's? How about a new FPS or TPS in the Starcraft Universe?

But millions enjoy Halo. So why not just keep making Halo, and let the other bazillion developers they own make some of those IPs?

My 2021 GOTY was Halo Infinite single player.

I would love some Starcraft universe for sure. I can't argue that.

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#28  Edited By Silentchief
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@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

Whoa, no need to get triggered. This isn't Uncharted 5 Remastered Remake we are talking about here!

I'm not triggered at all but I'm also not excited for the 9th Halo.

They just bought Activision/Blizzard for christ sake. Why not utilize some of those IP's? How about a new FPS or TPS in the Starcraft Universe?

But millions enjoy Halo. So why not just keep making Halo, and let the other bazillion developers they own make some of those IPs?

My 2021 GOTY was Halo Infinite single player.

I would love some Starcraft universe for sure. I can't argue that.

Millions enjoyed Uncharted but at some point they had to take a break. The story of Halo has completely gone off the rails.

If your excited for it good for you, I hope you enjoy it. But this just isn't surprising to me.

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#29 R4gn4r0k
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The new game should use Id Tech instead of Unreal Stutterfest Engine 5

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#30 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

Whoa, no need to get triggered. This isn't Uncharted 5 Remastered Remake we are talking about here!

I'm not triggered at all but I'm also not excited for the 9th Halo.

They just bought Activision/Blizzard for christ sake. Why not utilize some of those IP's? How about a new FPS or TPS in the Starcraft Universe?

But millions enjoy Halo. So why not just keep making Halo, and let the other bazillion developers they own make some of those IPs?

My 2021 GOTY was Halo Infinite single player.

I would love some Starcraft universe for sure. I can't argue that.

Millions enjoyed Uncharted but at some point they had to take a break. The story of Halo has completely gone off the rails.

If you’re excited for it good for you, I hope you enjoy it. But this just isn't surprising to me.

I do agree with you

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#31 Zero_epyon
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@Antwan3K said:
@Zero_epyon said:

I hope the next one is actually good. I really want a good Halo game with a decent story and not just good multiplayer.

ironically, the singleplayer campaign received near universal praise and landed at a 9/10 on GameSpot and 87% on metacritic..

it was the multiplayer that was criticized for not having enough content.. years later that seems to be fixed with Season 5 being met with alot of hype in the Halo community (unfortunately too late for Infinite to be a major player in F2P though)..

That's cool but I played it and thought it wasn't as good. The multiplayer was barebones but at least that can be improved over time.

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#32  Edited By Last_Lap
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Here's a crazy thought. I think MS should get ID to make the next Halo game, and let 343 make a new IP instead of being chained to Halo.

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#33 NNoyingHusband
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The time is now to reassign 343i. They are not capable, not skilled enough to fix this franchise. We need Activision’s involvement, guidance, oversight, babysitting, whatever. We need Unreal Engine 5. Uncle Phil needs to do the right thing and give 343i the boot from Halo. Not trying to be rude and mean about it, it’s just not working.

Yes, Halo Infinite is awesome now, but we can’t have the JV squad screwing up another launch.

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#34 blaznwiipspman1
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@tjandmia: 🤡 posts as usual, yawn.

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#35  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@Antwan3K: if they launched a dlc or new expansion, this would bring in a ton of new players. But I guess MS and 343 have moved on.

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@blaznwiipspman1: Sounds like you got conned intro buying an Xbox. 🤣

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#37 hardwenzen
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You know 343i is a dumpster fire of a company when they didn't even attempt to release a Halo BR. Clueless.

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@last_lap said:

Here's a crazy thought. I think MS should get ID to make the next Halo game, and let 343 make a new IP instead of being chained to Halo.

Id are wayyy above Halo.

Id should Reboot Quake 1 or make another Doom.

Reboot Quake.

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@ghosts4ever: Yeah having qte's kills in your game makes you above anyone else lol.

You want them to do the same franchises for eternity, out of curiosity, what was the last new ip that was made by ID, and how long ago was it?

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#40 Litchie
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Why? It's boring. And 343i sucks.

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#41 sakaiXx
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Seems like a dumb business decision to let 343i do halo when you got all these CoD studios around. Just let 343i do CoD not like people gonna care the worst CoD or the best CoD just sells.

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#42 SecretPolice
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OMG, OMG, OMG!!!

Halo Infinite is an AwesomeSauce foundation from which to build as one of the best made games in generations. They need to further the compelling story whilst keeping the best gun-play, game-play combat in the biz and it'll be another new GOAT for Xbox/PC. :D

Thank you, 343i and Uncle Phil, you guys are the best. :P

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#43 robert_sparkes
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I think 343 have made good halo games really enjoyed 4 and 5 on Xbox one. Halo infinite was way over hyped and a step backwards in the series I'm surprised ms are giving 343 another shot when you look around at the studios they have.

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#44  Edited By Antwan3K
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Antwan3K: if they launched a dlc or new expansion, this would bring in a ton of new players. But I guess MS and 343 have moved on.

whether it's warranted or not, there has been a narrative attached to Halo Infinite that's just not going to go away.. the F2P multiplayer has seemed to be finally fixed but if they are going to do any future singleplayer content, they'd be better off just doing a completely different game/title..

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@hardwenzen said:

You know 343i is a dumpster fire of a company when they didn't even attempt to release a Halo BR. Clueless.

Halo BR is being worked on by another studio at the moment.

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#46 hardwenzen
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@super600 said:
@hardwenzen said:

You know 343i is a dumpster fire of a company when they didn't even attempt to release a Halo BR. Clueless.

Halo BR is being worked on by another studio at the moment.

Those are just rumors. It needed to come out no later than six months after the game launch. If done well, it could've revived the whole IP from the grave. I mean shit, even i would try it because the mechanics of a Halo games are literally flawless for a BR.

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#47 nepu7supastar7
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@last_lap said:

Here's a crazy thought. I think MS should get ID to make the next Halo game, and let 343 make a new IP instead of being chained to Halo.

It's literally in their name: "343 Industries", they're named after 343 Guilty Spark the monitor of the original Halo and a very prominent character in the series. Creating Halo is their sole purpose for existing. Might as well disband the team altogether if they're not in charge of making more.

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#48  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
Member since 2007 • 16918 Posts

@Antwan3K: I disagree. Halo infinite has a solid foundation. Nothing wrong with expanding on it. But I guess the issue is that they don't have enough people that understand the code base, making it hard to take such an approach.

Narrative doesn't matter. Just look at a game like cyber punk. The game was trashed so bad back in 2020, and people literally abandoned it. Look where they are now.

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#49 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@tjandmia said:

@blaznwiipspman1: Sounds like you got conned intro buying an Xbox. 🤣

Sounds like a bought a POS PS5 that has 1 game a year, and that game was an 8 😂

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#50 TheEroica  Moderator
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Not a big halo guy. I liked the first game quite a bit and halo 2 was fun. Was never my cup of tea beyond that. I thin Heil and I may have played through halo 4 together too. It was pretty mindless fun I guess.

I don't find much appealing about halo. It has felt generic, green space man and square jawed marines blasting aliens.