Rumor: Cyberpunk 2077 delayed because of current gen consoles

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#101  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@heretrix said:

I think all of this is complete BS. The game just isn't finished yet. This shit happens all the time. I haven't seen anything about that game that couldn't be done on a PS4 Pro or Xbox one X. Blaming it on a console is idiotic especially since the next gen consoles won't be out until after the game releases in September.

The only thing that is idiotic is you saying that you don't see anything about the game that can't be done on a PS4 Pro and X1X... Since clearly the rumour behind the delay is to do with the base Xbox One and S which have 1/4 the GPU power of a X1X and CPU that is clocked 600MHz lower.

  • The X1X has a GPU is between the performance of a RX 580 and GTX 1070 which are capable gaming GPU's today
  • The X1 and S have GPU's that are around the performance of a 750 Ti and HD 7850 which are not capable gaming GPU's today

The difference between the X1X and X1S in GPU performance is bigger than the X1X and the next generation consoles, just to give you a idea what these developers are working with when it comes to trying get there games to run at stable frame rates... They art literally making cross generation ports within the same generation because of the substantial power difference.

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#102 Zero_epyon
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@goldenelementxl said:

I don’t understand how people thought the demos were being run on consoles when multiple outlets ran features discussing the PC tech used for those demos. Both in 2018 and 2019! Xbox button prompts really fooled some of you that much? Plug a Xbox One controller into a PC and tell me what the button prompts look like... That’s right, Xbox One button prompts.

CDPR thought they could dumb down the game enough in 18 months for the base consoles. They were wrong and now we all have to wait...

Haha I'll admit I was fooled. I didn't really look into what it was running on, just looking at the game in general.

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#103  Edited By Pedro
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@pdogg93: You try every time and fail every time. I wonder why still keep trying. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#104 pdogg93
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@Pedro: what are you droning on about? I stated a fact. Fact: cyberpunk Dev says xbone most to blame for holding back development for consoles.

Deal with it.

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#105 PernicioEnigma
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I wish CDPR announced this game would be PC and next gen console only. They used to be a PC-centric developer, but obviously that's not the case anymore if they are still developing their games to run on ancient console hardware.

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#106 Pedro
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@pdogg93 said:

@Pedro: what are you droning on about? I stated a fact. Fact: cyberpunk Dev says xbone most to blame for holding back development for consoles.

Deal with it.

And the PS4. Lets not leave out anything. :)

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#107 pdogg93
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@Pedro: “Borys came to the information very strongly confirmed that the biggest problem is the Xbox one”

Don’t twist anything you delusional lem.

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#108 Pedro
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@pdogg93: And the PS4.

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#109 pdogg93
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@Pedro: confirmed you are delusional.

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#110 Pedro
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@pdogg93: PS4 = current gen.

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#111 BlackShirt20
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@fedor: They want the game to sell. PC doesn’t ship enough copies. #facts

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#112 Pedro
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@BlackShirt20 said:

@fedor: They want the game to sell. PC doesn’t ship enough copies. #facts

This is true. But a better wording would be they want it to sell a lot.

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#113  Edited By pdogg93
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@Pedro: what are you not able to understand about my quote and the issue? The biggest hindrance with developing this game has been the xbone. End of story, deal with it.

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#114  Edited By Fedor
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@BlackShirt20: Huh? You might want to check out how well CDPR games sell on PC (Better than Xbox). I also didn't say don't release it on consoles, you'll still get it after the delay and downgrade.

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#115 Pedro
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@pdogg93: and PS4.

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#116 deactivated-6068afec1b77d
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@Pedro: set yourself free

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#117 pdogg93
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@Pedro: wrong

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@pdogg93: The fact is that they're having problems with both while the XB1 is having the most problems, that doesn't negate that there are problems on the PS4 also, try and accept that fact, but, but Xbox lol.

Here's another fact that the game would have more problems running on the PRO as opposed to the X, facts are fun aren't they :)

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#119 pdogg93
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@i_p_daily: sorry buddy, I’m only reporting facts aka from the horses mouth. Not made up lemming delusions to try and downplay how shitty of the last 6 years you guys have had.

Fact, Dev singled out the Xbox one. Deal with it i_cry_daily

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#120 Pedro
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@pdogg93: Nope.

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#121  Edited By BassMan
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@i_p_daily said:

@pdogg93: The fact is that they're having problems with both while the XB1 is having the most problems, that doesn't negate that there are problems on the PS4 also, try and accept that fact, but, but Xbox lol.

Here's another fact that the game would have more problems running on the PRO as opposed to the X, facts are fun aren't they :)

All the current gen console versions will be shit anyway. PC or next-gen console ports will be the only way to play the game properly.

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@i_p_daily said:

@pdogg93: The fact is that they're having problems with both while the XB1 is having the most problems, that doesn't negate that there are problems on the PS4 also, try and accept that fact, but, but Xbox lol.

Here's another fact that the game would have more problems running on the PRO as opposed to the X, facts are fun aren't they :)

All the current gen console versions will be shit anyway. PC or next-gen console ports will be the only way to play the game properly.

Shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for console games.
Shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for console games.

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#123 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@pdogg93 said:

@i_p_daily: sorry buddy, I’m only reporting facts aka from the horses mouth. Not made up lemming delusions to try and downplay how shitty of the last 6 years you guys have had.

Fact, Dev singled out the Xbox one. Deal with it i_cry_daily

Yeah the PS4 would have no problems at all only the XB1, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Name calling, ooh the frustration is real for you :( the only one crying in here is you as you can't face the facts that the PS4 is having problems too.

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#124  Edited By IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@phbz said:

That's just horrible project management. 7 years to make a game with a specific target hardware and by the end struggle to make it work. That's like building furniture and not realising that it won't fit in your house.

No it's not. It's a studio that won't sacrifice their vision that's been evolving and changing and iterating over the course of 7 years. 20 years ago, this would totally have been a PC exclusive.

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#125 Pedro
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@IMAHAPYHIPPO said:

No it's not. It's a studio that won't sacrifice their vision that's been evolving and changing and iterating over the course of 7 years. 20 years ago, this would totally have been a PC exclusive.

You mean like Halo? LOL

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#126 ButDuuude
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He was very specific about the original Xbox One.

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#127 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@Pedro said:
@IMAHAPYHIPPO said:

No it's not. It's a studio that won't sacrifice their vision that's been evolving and changing and iterating over the course of 7 years. 20 years ago, this would totally have been a PC exclusive.

You mean like Halo? LOL

..........no? What even? Bolding somebody else's words and writing a nonsense sentence does nothing. What's your goal, here? Explain yourself.

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#128  Edited By BassMan
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@i_p_daily said:
@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:

@pdogg93: The fact is that they're having problems with both while the XB1 is having the most problems, that doesn't negate that there are problems on the PS4 also, try and accept that fact, but, but Xbox lol.

Here's another fact that the game would have more problems running on the PRO as opposed to the X, facts are fun aren't they :)

All the current gen console versions will be shit anyway. PC or next-gen console ports will be the only way to play the game properly.

Shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for console games.
Shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for console games.

Nope. Not needed at the moment. MS games already on PC and Sony is coming around. PC getting the best versions of first party games and multiplats FTW!

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@IMAHAPYHIPPO: Ye, that's bad project management. Regardless of your PC master race fantasy, this is a developer that stated the Witcher 3 wouldn't be possible without consoles. I'm assuming the same still stands for this game as there's 0 AAA games that are PC exclusives. It's just how the market works.

I've said it in this forums as soon as they released gameplay that current gen consoles would struggle to run it and that I rather they just released it next gen as I imagine this would be a heavy on CPU game. I'm sure they'll sort it, all I want it this game to be as good as possible. And I would be fine with it releasing first on PC, but again, that's just not how the market works.

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@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:
@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:

@pdogg93: The fact is that they're having problems with both while the XB1 is having the most problems, that doesn't negate that there are problems on the PS4 also, try and accept that fact, but, but Xbox lol.

Here's another fact that the game would have more problems running on the PRO as opposed to the X, facts are fun aren't they :)

All the current gen console versions will be shit anyway. PC or next-gen console ports will be the only way to play the game properly.

Shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for console games.
Shouldn't you be off somewhere begging for console games.

Nope. Not needed at the moment. MS games already on PC and Sony is coming around. PC getting the best versions of first party games and multiplats FTW!

The
The "master" race

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#131  Edited By BassMan
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@i_p_daily: Funny gif, but at the end of the day, the games are coming to PC and will be best on PC. So, any "begging" or demanding games is justified.

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#132 deactivated-5efed3ebc2180
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@ghosts4ever said:

The game is waay too ambitious to run on current consoles. im surpriesed its not fully next gen game. come on.

...says someone who has such a weak ass PC... C'mon.

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#133 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@Pedro said:
@BlackShirt20 said:

@fedor: They want the game to sell. PC doesn’t ship enough copies. #facts

This is true. But a better wording would be they want it to sell a lot.

No game ships enough on one platform.

It's why MS have put all their games on PC and from the rumours Sony might end up doing the same soon.

As for Witcher 3 sales:

PC isn't doing bad when you consider how many PS4/Xbox's where out in 2015-2017... combined almost 100 million consoles and PC still out performs both after the first year of sales.

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#134 hardwenzen
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I feel bad for anybody that's gonna waste this game on consoles.

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#136 robert_sparkes
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You can get it and play it smoother on the x-series or ps5. I think that's the route I'll take.

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@hardwenzen said:

I feel bad for anybody that's gonna waste this game on consoles.

I feel bad for people that think like you do.

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#138 tormentos
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@kuu2:

Yes but you don't see cows crying about Sony moving on from the PS4,it is lemmings NOW that want Ms to keep the Xbox one alive and defend their decision to have no platform specific games.

The Xbox one has been underperforming since launch,this machine since day 1 was running several games in 720p what will people expect to happen 7 years down the raod.🤷

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#139 Zaryia
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lol at the clowns who play this at 30/60 fps on medium/low

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#140 Pedro
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@zaryia: You mean gamers? You should consider being one to. Its fun.

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#141 Zaryia
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@Pedro said:

@zaryia: You mean gamers? You should consider being one to. Its fun.

I'm 10x a gamer than any consoler.

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#142 Pedro
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@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

@zaryia: You mean gamers? You should consider being one to. Its fun.

I'm 10x a gamer than any consoler.

Sure you are. LOL

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#143 Zaryia
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@Pedro said:
@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

@zaryia: You mean gamers? You should consider being one to. Its fun.

I'm 10x a gamer than any consoler.

Sure you are. LOL

Thank you.

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#144 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@zaryia said:

lol at the clowns who play this at 30/60 fps on medium/low

60FPS on medium is a great gaming experience.

30FPS is not a problem also really... The problem is if it can't hold 30FPS and drop regularly to 20FPS, which is how I feel this game will end up on current gen hardware on base consoles.

I hope I can play it at 1440/60 on High(not max) settings with a little bit of Ray Tracing with a 2080 Ti.

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#145 Cloud_imperium
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If it helps PC version's optimization too then I don't mind it, even though delay kinda sucks. On other hand I always expected it to get delayed like Witcher 3. Here is hoping that optimization won't come at the cost of downgrade. From what I expect, they delayed it because they need more time to optimize their streaming tech. They improved it a lot in Blood and Wine expansion and reduced stuttering in populated cities and it also allowed them to crank up draw distance further. CP2077 takes place within a populated city instead of city being just a part of bigger world populated with dense forests like Witcher 3, which means they require much better streaming than Witcher 3 to make it run on current hardware especially on Consoles or mid range PCs especially the ones that lack SSDs or don't have extremely powerful GPUs to load textures without lag or stuttering.

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@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

@zaryia: You mean gamers? You should consider being one to. Its fun.

I'm 10x a gamer than any consoler.

You play games on mobile, you're 10x less a gamer than EVERYBODY else, that's a fact.

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@zaryia said:

lol at the clowns who play this at 30/60 fps on medium/low

60FPS on medium is a great gaming experience.

30FPS is not a problem also really... The problem is if it can't hold 30FPS and drop regularly to 20FPS, which is how I feel this game will end up on current gen hardware on base consoles.

I hope I can play it at 1440/60 on High(not max) settings with a little bit of Ray Tracing with a 2080 Ti.

Its refreshing to see a hermit actually tell it like it is.

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#148 PernicioEnigma
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@zaryia said:

lol at the clowns who play this at 30/60 fps on medium/low

60FPS on medium is a great gaming experience.

30FPS is not a problem also really... The problem is if it can't hold 30FPS and drop regularly to 20FPS, which is how I feel this game will end up on current gen hardware on base consoles.

I hope I can play it at 1440/60 on High(not max) settings with a little bit of Ray Tracing with a 2080 Ti.

Yeah, agreed on the 60fps/medium thing. Anyone who's ever watched a Digital Foundry analysis of a modern PC game will know most high/max settings only make relatively minor improvements to a games visuals over medium. Even the best current implementations of ray tracing can hardly justify the insane hit to performance it incurs.

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#149 Zaryia
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@i_p_daily said:
@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

@zaryia: You mean gamers? You should consider being one to. Its fun.

I'm 10x a gamer than any consoler.

You play games on mobile, you're 10x less a gamer than EVERYBODY else, that's a fact.

I have played mobile games for literally less than 1 minute.

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@zaryia said:
@i_p_daily said:
@zaryia said:
@Pedro said:

@zaryia: You mean gamers? You should consider being one to. Its fun.

I'm 10x a gamer than any consoler.

You play games on mobile, you're 10x less a gamer than EVERYBODY else, that's a fact.

I have played mobile games for literally less than 1 minute.

That's a lie, you know it, but most importantly WE know it.