Rumor: Four Wii U games launching on NX. What do you want?

Another day, another NX rumor. Someone saying four Wii U games will launch as NX titles.

To give this a different spin than every other Charizard thread drooling over unconfirmed garbage, let's discuss this instead. Say this is happening, and four Wii U titles are coming to NX. Nobody with pride has a Wii U, and hasn't played any of these titles. What four do you want to see?

I say Bayonetta 2 deserves an audience, a GOTY Smash 4 only makes sense, Mario Maker needs a second screen solution, but if NX has something then perfect, and I guess some people like Splatoon.

I want give Nintendo middle finger because they delayed Zelda so it could be launch title for NX same time as WiiU release...that is what i want to do

Seems crappy to me for a luanch that is.

Bayonetta 1+2. Smash 4 with DLC. Star Fox Zero. Xenoblade X because it hasn't got much sales, and deserves recognition.

Old news.

What they need to do is the NX needs to be BC, they need have all the Wii U digital games be available on NX, and they need to offer way for Wii U GamePad to pair up with NX, and or for NX players to acquire a GamePad for Wii U BC for games that need it. It'd help if Nintendo can figure out a way to update many of their games for off-GamePad play, some already do. People jumping on board the NX should be able to experience what the Wii U offered if they never had one.

Anyhow, LoZ obviously gonna be a launch killer app title for the NX.

But, they'll probably bring over the best of what Wii U offered, Splatoon, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, they should also try to bring us Bayonetta 2, know it was a big seller but it was an utterly awesome game regardless. Just stack the deck with Wii U games though should really give it a nice launch library for anybody who didn't have a Wii U. They could also add Pikmin 4, Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, Star Fox Zero... the best of it, just make it available on the digital store, at a nominal price.

Doesn't mean these will be all the NX titles at launch. Just four titles that should be given another opportunity to succeed on a platform that will hopefully have a wider audience.

My money is on it being the following:

• Mario Kart
• Mario Maker
• Smash
• Splatoon

These make sense to me because they could potentially launch with all the DLC and be billed as definitive editions. All of these games were 8 or higherwhen reviewed and their definitive editions would only serve to supplement the launch library.

Smash seems like an obvious one.

This is a hard one to answer because we don't know if Zelda counts as one of the four.

For my answer I'm going to assume Zelda isn't one of those games. I'm also going to give two lists, the one that I think they should do, and the one I think Nintendo is more likely to do.

My List:

1. Super Smash Bros
2. Pokken Tournament
3. Xenoblade Chronicles X
4. Mario Maker

Nintendo's List:

1. Splatoon
2. Super Smash Bros
3. Mario Maker
4. Mario Kart 8

Whatever the four games are, I hope Nintendo doesn't try charging full price for them, between $30-40 should be the max for these ports. Especially if Nintendo are expecting Wii U owners to re-buy them for NX.

These games must be played by all:

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze should be there simply for being a masterclass game in every aspect imaginable.

Pikmin 3 with all its genius DLC stages

Smash Bros should come out as a complete package as well.

Bayonetta 2

Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros, Splatoon, and Xenoblade Chronicles X. Unite the online and call it a day. I forgot Mario Maker, guess they would most likely want that one.

Or the Zeldas maybe, makes sense, bring the Zelda HDs over.

An "ultimate edition" of Smash 4 that has all 3DS content, Wii U content, and all DLC in one package would be a good idea, and maybe even add some new stuff too on top of that.

They could do that with other games like Mario kart 8 and Splatoon I suppose, but eh, I'd really only care to see that with Smash. I'd rather see a Mario Kartt 9 or Splatoon 2 on the NX.

I hope Nintendo knows what it is doing. A lot of these rumors are hot garbage.

That's only true if these are instead of new games. If NX gets four Wii U ports, the new Zelda and one or two of the rumored games like 3D Mario, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Metroid, Pikmin 4, all topped off with 3rd party support. That's a solid launch, especially for people who didn't jump on the Wii U.

It's also, in terms of 1st party, Sony's support for the PS4 entire life so far, but on day one. One or two new games, and a ton of PS2/3 ports.

Nobody said that these would be Nintendo's only launch titles or even that they would all be launch titles (they most likely won't be).

Everyone should keep in mind that Zelda U is one of the titles and Smash is heavily rumored, so there are only really two free slots.

It's going to be the same old rehashed drivel: <Nintendo franchise +1>

I would love to see some adult oriented games like Bloodborne+Castlevania or a Red Dead Redemption type game.

Why not have a link?

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/11/rumour-nintendo-nx-games-set-to-include-wii-u-ports/

Could Nintendo give me free copies of those WiiU remasters/ complete editions/ ports on NX then so that the giant middle finger they're giving me doesn't sting as much?

Why in God's name would anybody buy a NX when we all saw what happened with the wii u ???

The only way Bayo 2 would have "an audience" is if Nintendo was not involved at all (no matter how popular the NX ends up over Wii U). I remember the reveal all too well, Nintendo was given less this:

And more this:

(Also Why I think the idea of Nintendo publishing Beyond Good and Evil is a bad idea, but as Patrick Stump would sing, I digress)

And the sales since launch backed it the **** up.

That crowd would have been happier if Activision/EA/Ubisoft/Konami were the publisher of Bayonetta 2, no matter what schemes they'd have added to it (though not like they wanted to, given how especially the former three are).

If NX launched with:

• Zelda
• 3D Mario
• Pikmin 4
• Full 3rd party support (All sports games, CoD, Mass Effect, FFXV, Destiny 2 any other 3rd party titles)
• Smash Definitive
• Splatoon Definitive
• Mario Kart 8 Definitive
• Mario Maker Definitive

It wouldn't just be a solid launch, it would probably be the best launch of any system ever. Zelda and Mario alone assure, at least in my opinion, 2 must buy titles.

Just Zelda and Mario Kart plus all the dlc, maybe another 8 courses thrown in. That game would benefit a lot from 1080p + 16x AF and it'd be nice to have all the patches on a disc

The NX is going to be BC with Wii U, Wii and GameCube plus every Nintendo game from all it home console and handhelds will be available to play online with a monthly subscription or to buy

The console controller has a screen and it is like the Wii U pad only smaller about the size of a Vita

It would be an awful launch for wii u owners... And also I am doubtful it would happen

If it even has a disc drive at all...

We already know it's gonna be zelda

The 4 games will probably be;

1. Who cares

2. Idgaf

3. bleh

4. meh

But seriously, if NX launched with a successor to DKR, I'd buy it day one..

Realistically, if I had to guess 4-Games I'd go with:

The Legend of Zelda

Pikmin 4 (if it really is coming out)

Pokken Tournament

Super Smash Bros.

Bayonetta 1+2, The Wonderful 101, Splatoon, and Super Mario Maker.

Backwards compatibility or bust.

Full backwards compatibility means that they'd need to use the now 17-year-old CPU cores in Wii U yet again.

You know how the 20/60gb ps3's were BC right?

Just chuck the whole chip in there alongside the new cpu. Incorporate the Wii U gpu (which had the Wii gpu in it) into the new gpu, problem solved.

That would increase the cost and size of the console significantly for no real benefit. There's a reason Sony removed that after a few months.

And that's a problem... why? Too many console manufacturers these days forget the importance of BC.

Does pokken count?

I would go with pokken, smash, splatoon, and star fox zero

90% sure they'd put super Mario maker in that list of they had one

Well, do you want NX to or any future Nintendo console to at least match PS4? Because you can't do that without a newer CPU. Wii U's CPU is one of its biggest bottlenecks (the other being memory bandwidth), so using it again would mean that the console would be limited to being around as powerful as Wii U is. It's not worth it at all, especially considering how badly Wii U sold.

Sony removed it because they were bleeding $200+ from every unit sold, with or without the ps2 chips. They needed every penny.

Size? The Wii U cpu is very tiny and that's at 45nm, both the gpu and cpu would be incredibly small if they were put in NX. The cpu wouldn't even need a heatsink.

It might be the most beneficial inclusion of bc yet for Nintendo, since many want Wii U games but don't want to buy a dying console. 3 consoles in one would be amazing. Sad that people have given up on BC, it should be standard.

I t's a long shot but it could be done if they wanted.

You know nothing about BC.

The Wii U contains the Wii's hardware, which allows it to play Wii games natively. Only the Wii was built on the same architecture as the Gamecube allowing it to play GC games natively without the need for the original hardware.

They would only have to include the Wii U and Wii hardware in the next console to make the entire Wii U, Wii and GC libraries available for native play (i.e. non-emulation). And the rest they just need to make available for digital download.

Because they were trying to make the $900 console make money at a $600 price tag.

If it weren't so bloated with expensive hardware like the Cell, they would clearly have left the BC in.

It would still add around $50 to the price, or possibly even more from needing to change the design to work on 28nm. It's a waste of time and money. If Wii U having BC with Wii didn't help it at all, what makes you think that NX having Wii U BC would help? They'd make more money from adding GameCube and Wii to VC, or from more HD remasters.

I didn't buy a WiiU but those four games and Xenoblade Chronicles are the only ones I have wanted to play and I'm not sure if I care about Splatoon.

@techhog89:Where'd you get $50 from? I don't know either, but I imagine it couldn't be very much considering the size of them. After the node transition they might be dirt cheap

Like I said there are people that want Wii U games but not the console, everyone already had a Wii though.

I know everything about BC, but it seems that you don't. Wii U BC worked due to using what is basically an overclocked, tri-core version of the Wii/GC CPU and having some fixed-function hardware from Wii built into the GPU. It's not using any separate chips containing Wii hardware like PS3 did with PS2. I thought that everyone knew this. :/

Perhaps, but the point is that it did add to the cost. This means that Nintendo would only bother doing this if they felt that it would significantly increase revenue to offset the additional costs. So far, not a single console has really benefited from BC. Meanwhile, Sony and Microsoft are raking in cash from the "remasters" they've been pumping out this generation. It seems pretty clear which route will be the more profitable one for them.

I skipped Wii-U so I would pick:

Zelda (new one)

Zelda TP HD

New Super Mario Bros 2

Star Fox

... I can't think of a fifth I would want. Hence why I skipped Wii-U.

I'm going to take that part back simply because I can't find the list that I was extrapolating from, but I can assure you that it costs more than the $10-15 you probably think. It would also require Nintendo to depend on two different fabrication facilities for the console, meaning that they'd be in trouble if one of them lags behind. That's a huge risk for a feature that has never had any sort of real effect on any home console's sales. This is on top of adding to the design costs (contrary to what you believe, it would still require a heat sink at 28nm) and having to pay extra licensing fees. The icing on the cake to all of this is that it means they'd need to have a controller with a screen as a standard as well as using Wii U's technology for working with the controller (and don't say that they can make it optional, since it makes no sense to add that hardware if people need to buy a $100 peripheral just to use it). All of this means that the console would need to be $400-450 just to match PS4 while breaking even or making a small profit. That is, frankly, a stupid idea. If you want to play Wii U games that badly, go buy a a Wii U or just be happy with the ports/remasters that NX gets.

Mario Maker, Splatoon, Smash Bros, and Pokken Tournament.

These to me are the For sure NX launch titles with Pokken Tournament actually being the one game that was made with the NX in mind.

EDIT: forgot about Zelda WiiU, so I guess if not Pokken it''ll be Zelda U. Man Nintendo is killing everyone with the E3 wait.

@darkspineslayer: You need to add to the OP that one of the games is Zelda U (as stated in the tweet that this comes from) and another is most likely Smash 4 (which was rumored months ago).

@techhog89: I don't need to do anything. This is a discussion of desire, not rumoured "fact", which is already a shaky thing to stand on.

@darkspineslayer: Then close or change the name the thread because the same rumor that this thread is referring to says that Zelda is one of the four games (on top of the fact that there have been a ton of different sources saying the exact same damn thing, including at least one confirmed to have had a source in Nintendo's marketing department). You seem to have an extreme dislike of rumors, so why even bother posting this? Just so someone else won't?