rumor: MS blog talks next xbox... joins the collective and becomes a pc

its in short a pc..

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/rumor-next-xbox-to-be-windows-powered-going-apple-route/

the next XBOX is running a variant of windows 8 or windows phone 7.. in short youve officially been turned into a pc (except alot cruder) how does thou feel xbox faithful??

the next XBXO is rumored to have an ARM based cpu with an ion "like" graphics setup with a gpu designated for non-gaming use and another for games and/or multimedia (if supported). it according to source will also have microsoft silverlight and support for some level of basic networking. in the end however your running an official (possibly purchaseable) windows OS (or a variant thereof). resistance is futile!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww

as long as it gets good games I don't really care either wayohthemanatee

nor do i care.. but i appreciate the fact that ill be able to (if true) dual boot and then buy xbox games thus destroying the multiplat paradime

I was expecting this... it's Microsoft.

This is one of the advantages that Microsoft has. Creating incredible software and UI. Only 3 companies can do this. Microsoft, Google, or Apple. And apples sucks for gaming.

I've been expecting [hoping] some variant of Windows 8 ever since the rumor about Xbox emulation on the OS. Not to mention the metro UI is quite familiar to the recent Kinect interface for 360.

Windows 8 brings full OS capability to low-profile tablet PC, so I can imagine how effortly it is to run on a high-end console.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]as long as it gets good games I don't really care either wayionusX

nor do i care.. but i appreciate the fact that ill be able to (if true) dual boot and then buy xbox games thus destroying the multiplat paradime

I think its briliant... pc and xbox have been cousins for years and now theyll join completely. Its the functions other than the gaming in the next xbox that i think will be jaw dropping must haves.TheEroica

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]I think its briliant... pc and xbox have been cousins for years and now theyll join completely. Its the functions other than the gaming in the next xbox that i think will be jaw dropping must haves.ActionRemix

That's what I'm saying. If titles are interchangeable, how is the xbox going to last? At some point it will make far more sense to just buy a FAR more capable pc. I had a feeling this would happen--MS will slap the xbox logo on pc cases and call it a day. Here's hoping Sony and Nintendo deliver.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="TheEroica"]I think its briliant... pc and xbox have been cousins for years and now theyll join completely. Its the functions other than the gaming in the next xbox that i think will be jaw dropping must haves.Heirren

That's what I'm saying. If titles are interchangeable, how is the xbox going to last? At some point it will make far more sense to just buy a FAR more capable pc. I had a feeling this would happen--MS will slap the xbox logo on pc cases and call it a day. Here's hoping Sony and Nintendo deliver.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="TheEroica"]I think its briliant... pc and xbox have been cousins for years and now theyll join completely. Its the functions other than the gaming in the next xbox that i think will be jaw dropping must haves.Heirren

That's what I'm saying. If titles are interchangeable, how is the xbox going to last? At some point it will make far more sense to just buy a FAR more capable pc. I had a feeling this would happen--MS will slap the xbox logo on pc cases and call it a day. Here's hoping Sony and Nintendo deliver.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="TheEroica"]I think its briliant... pc and xbox have been cousins for years and now theyll join completely. Its the functions other than the gaming in the next xbox that i think will be jaw dropping must haves.Heirren

That's what I'm saying. If titles are interchangeable, how is the xbox going to last? At some point it will make far more sense to just buy a FAR more capable pc. I had a feeling this would happen--MS will slap the xbox logo on pc cases and call it a day. Here's hoping Sony and Nintendo deliver.

probably thinking of those who can't afford a gaming PC

IF it releases on windows or xbox...doesn't matter. MS benefits.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]What jaw-dropping things will it be able to do that my computer can't already do?ActionRemix

That's what I'm saying. If titles are interchangeable, how is the xbox going to last? At some point it will make far more sense to just buy a FAR more capable pc. I had a feeling this would happen--MS will slap the xbox logo on pc cases and call it a day. Here's hoping Sony and Nintendo deliver.

I think this is what MS wants--to eventually bring xbox live and kinect to Windows. Imagine if xbox live became the standard for pc gaming? They'd make an incredible killing. A Halo game for pc that was OPTIMISED for pc? EVERYBODY would eat that up. The xbox "console" will likely be marketed towards the kiddies. Something that can play games on a scalable "lower" setting. Judging by the rumors that the price of the new system will be cheaper, it actually makes a lot of sense and can be true.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

That's what I'm saying. If titles are interchangeable, how is the xbox going to last? At some point it will make far more sense to just buy a FAR more capable pc. I had a feeling this would happen--MS will slap the xbox logo on pc cases and call it a day. Here's hoping Sony and Nintendo deliver.

Heirren

I think this is what MS wants--to eventually bring xbox live and kinect to Windows. Imagine if xbox live became the standard for pc gaming? They'd make an incredible killing. A Halo game for pc that was OPTIMISED for pc? EVERYBODY would eat that up. The xbox "console" will likely be marketed towards the kiddies. Something that can play games on a scalable "lower" setting. Judging by the rumors that the price of the new system will be cheaper, it actually makes a lot of sense and can be true.

So the 360 is where the Microsoft console era ends huh...that's fine with me because this is where I'll part ways with them as well. I'll become strictly a Nintendo/Sony gamer after this gen is over.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

That's what I'm saying. If titles are interchangeable, how is the xbox going to last? At some point it will make far more sense to just buy a FAR more capable pc. I had a feeling this would happen--MS will slap the xbox logo on pc cases and call it a day. Here's hoping Sony and Nintendo deliver.

Heirren

I think this is what MS wants--to eventually bring xbox live and kinect to Windows. Imagine if xbox live became the standard for pc gaming? They'd make an incredible killing. A Halo game for pc that was OPTIMISED for pc? EVERYBODY would eat that up. The xbox "console" will likely be marketed towards the kiddies. Something that can play games on a scalable "lower" setting. Judging by the rumors that the price of the new system will be cheaper, it actually makes a lot of sense and can be true.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"] If I can just play Xbox games on PC, why buy an Xbox? At least it means I won't have to worry about Xbox exclusives, not that any Xbox exclusives interested me this gen.GeneralShowzer

I think this is what MS wants--to eventually bring xbox live and kinect to Windows. Imagine if xbox live became the standard for pc gaming? They'd make an incredible killing. A Halo game for pc that was OPTIMISED for pc? EVERYBODY would eat that up. The xbox "console" will likely be marketed towards the kiddies. Something that can play games on a scalable "lower" setting. Judging by the rumors that the price of the new system will be cheaper, it actually makes a lot of sense and can be true.

It was a lazy port. I said optimized.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I think this is what MS wants--to eventually bring xbox live and kinect to Windows. Imagine if xbox live became the standard for pc gaming? They'd make an incredible killing. A Halo game for pc that was OPTIMISED for pc? EVERYBODY would eat that up. The xbox "console" will likely be marketed towards the kiddies. Something that can play games on a scalable "lower" setting. Judging by the rumors that the price of the new system will be cheaper, it actually makes a lot of sense and can be true.

Heirren

It was a lazy port. I said optimized.

I don't really see the point if it's just going to be a PC with the xbox sticker stuck onto it.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I think this is what MS wants--to eventually bring xbox live and kinect to Windows. Imagine if xbox live became the standard for pc gaming? They'd make an incredible killing. A Halo game for pc that was OPTIMISED for pc? EVERYBODY would eat that up. The xbox "console" will likely be marketed towards the kiddies. Something that can play games on a scalable "lower" setting. Judging by the rumors that the price of the new system will be cheaper, it actually makes a lot of sense and can be true.

Heirren

It was a lazy port. I said optimized.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"] If I can just play Xbox games on PC, why buy an Xbox? At least it means I won't have to worry about Xbox exclusives, not that any Xbox exclusives interested me this gen.GeneralShowzer

I think this is what MS wants--to eventually bring xbox live and kinect to Windows. Imagine if xbox live became the standard for pc gaming? They'd make an incredible killing. A Halo game for pc that was OPTIMISED for pc? EVERYBODY would eat that up. The xbox "console" will likely be marketed towards the kiddies. Something that can play games on a scalable "lower" setting. Judging by the rumors that the price of the new system will be cheaper, it actually makes a lot of sense and can be true.

But the by the time the ports got on PC everyone that wanted to play it would of just gotten an xbox which was 3 years.

its in short a pc..

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/rumor-next-xbox-to-be-windows-powered-going-apple-route/

the next XBOX is running a variant of windows 8 or windows phone 7.. in short youve officially been turned into a pc (except alot cruder) how does thou feel xbox faithful??

the next XBXO is rumored to have an ARM based cpu with an ion "like" graphics setup with a gpu designated for non-gaming use and another for games and/or multimedia (if supported). it according to source will also have microsoft silverlight and support for some level of basic networking. in the end however your running an official (possibly purchaseable) windows OS (or a variant thereof). resistance is futile!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww

ionusX

Nice one, most silly rumor i have ever read, it seems so obviously fake that is probably a delayed 1st April joke or something

Windows powered? There goes those speedy updates.

I suppose this is how 360 games will run on PC?

Not suprised because it's MS and sooner or later they were going to include in there next console.

I don't really see the point if it's just going to be a PC with the xbox sticker stuck onto it.

XileLord

It's a bit naive to think that'd be the case.

[QUOTE="XileLord"]

I don't really see the point if it's just going to be a PC with the xbox sticker stuck onto it.

SW__Troll

It's a bit naive to think that'd be the case.

So the 360 is where the Microsoft console era ends huh...that's fine with me because this is where I'll part ways with them as well. I'll become strictly a Nintendo/Sony gamer after this gen is over.

Bigboi500

I hear ya.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="XileLord"]

I don't really see the point if it's just going to be a PC with the xbox sticker stuck onto it.

FPSfan1985

It's a bit naive to think that'd be the case.

Right

And the next Xbox isn't just going to be some Dell PC with an XBox sticker on it. That's all Im saying.

It was always inevitable that Windows would eventually wind up on Xboxes. Hopefully it turns out well, wonder if MS will allow for any hardware modifications beyond hard drives and how they'll combat piracy. I bet they'll limit what programs you can run on the OS by only allowing programs purchased from a MS "App" store via XBL.

People love their rumors around here...

It was always inevitable that Windows would eventually wind up on Xboxes. Hopefully it turns out well, wonder if MS will allow for any hardware modifications beyond hard drives and how they'll combat piracy. I bet they'll limit what programs you can run on the OS by only allowing programs purchased from a MS "App" store via XBL.

Basinboy

Remember that it is the software and services that make the Xbox brand successful; the hardware itself is just a convenient way of accessing them and isn't particularly profitable on its own. Windows 7 features full Xbox Live integration, as will Windows 8 (including a full dashboard as seen in the upcoming 360 dashboard update). Turning the next Xbox into more of a PC would encourage sales of Windows 8 PCs and get players used to the idea of accessing the Xbox experience on a PC.

Altering hardware would alienate their xbox consumer base. If ppl want to modify components, thats what a pc is for.Human-after-all

Optional capabilities are advantages, not downsides. Look at the PS3: it supports swapping in an off-the-shelf PC hard drive for more storage space and faster loading, but you can still fully enjoy the PS3 experience in its out-of-the-box state. The same goes for the PC; every component can be upgraded but the average user will only upgrade the RAM (and many won't do even that).

Having the optional ability to improve your experience is a positive, not a negative, whether we're talking a console or a PC.

ARM? Makes sense. Allowing Xbox 3 to play PC games would kill any chances MS could ever have at the platform being profitable afterall.

After reading this, I just imagined one the worst case scenarios for this system:

The windows 404 error meants RROD

The chaos that would ensue! :shock:

Guess now games will come out on xbox 720 and pc and will be considered one and the same, thus any shared game will be a microsoft exclusive.

Guess now games will come out on xbox 720 and pc and will be considered one and the same, thus any shared game will be a microsoft exclusive.

Phazevariance

Guess now games will come out on xbox 720 and pc and will be considered one and the same, thus any shared game will be a microsoft exclusive.

Phazevariance

Sooo... having a version of Windows 8 automatically makes it a PC?

Funny... the Dreamcast ran a modified version of Windows CE. Guess the Dreamcast was actually a gaming PC in disguise.

ARM? Makes sense. Allowing Xbox 3 to play PC games would kill any chances MS could ever have at the platform being profitable afterall.

AdrianWerner

Windows 8 supports ARM, but sharing the same hardware and OS doesn't mean playing the same games; look at the first Xbox--it had x86 hardware and used DirectX but its games didn't run on Windows and vice versa. Even with the underlying OS being the same I'd expect some technical measures to prevent playing games on the other platform (unless intended). Some form of deliberate compatibility similar to Steam Play is possible but at BUILD Microsoft only talked about sharing cloud saves across platforms rather than the games themselves.

As for profitability, the 360 is profitable through its software and services more than the console unit itself. This is why Microsoft has repeatedly cut the price of the console and recently had a deal where you get a free 360 with a new Windows 7 PC. Microsoft is bringing the full Xbox Live experience to the PC with Windows 8 (dashboard and everything) without fearing the consequences; if this leads to you buying a Windows 8 PC instead of a next-generation Xbox Microsoft still wins by being able to sell you comparable games and services through the OS, and if you then decide to get an Xbox as well that's even better. Microsoft needs Xbox, but Microsoft does not need the Xbox.

Original xbox wasn't it called a pc as well?

As for profitability, the 360 is profitable through its software and services more than the console unit itself

garrett_daniels