Rumor: Wii U CPU is 3 Wii CPU Cores clocked a bit higher "enhanced broadway

lol retro studios is pathetic compared to 1990s rare studios lmao. retro we get awesome remake of rare donkey kong 1994.gamesaredead420

And that is all.......three Wii CPUs together..??lol Epic fail......not even more powerful than XBOX360.lololAtariKidX

Rumour;)

[QUOTE="gamesaredead420"]lol retro studios is pathetic compared to 1990s rare studios lmao. retro we get awesome remake of rare donkey kong 1994.nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]And that is all.......three Wii CPUs together..??lol Epic fail......not even more powerful than XBOX360.lolollundy86_4

Rumour;)

So even a guy with 5 posts on a random internet forum can create rumors that the gaming world will run with.....

That sounds stupid if for no other reason than jerry rigging three ancient PPC G3 processors into a modern one sounds quite a bit more complex and expensive than just using a modern PPC chip. So I'm definitely calling BS on this one.famicommander

IBM PPE is like G1 PowerPC i.e. on par with ARM Cortex A8 or Intel Atom i.e. dual instruction issue per cycle with in-order processing.

IBM PPE vs IBM PowerPC G3 is like comparing Intel Atom vs Intel Pentium M/Core 1.

PowerPC G3 with 128bit VMX would be like PowerPC G4+(e.g. 7448). PowerPC G4+ with updated FSB would like Freescale's e600 update i.e. Freescale's PowerPC G5 (with minus 64bit GPR compute) level CPU.

That sounds stupid if for no other reason than jerry rigging three ancient PPC G3 processors into a modern one sounds quite a bit more complex and expensive than just using a modern PPC chip. So I'm definitely calling BS on this one.famicommander

2Ghz PowerPC G3 with VMX + FSB updates would rival IBM PPE (3.2Ghz PowerPC G1 with VMX + FSB updates) .

At the same clock speed, branch performance on PowerPC G3 would be superior compared to PPE. PowerPC G3 has the short pipeline advantage compare to Pentium 4 level PPE(21 stage).

Hopefully, IBM create it's own Intel Core like solution instead of another Intel Atom/Pentium IV like solution.

[QUOTE="famicommander"]That sounds stupid if for no other reason than jerry rigging three ancient PPC G3 processors into a modern one sounds quite a bit more complex and expensive than just using a modern PPC chip. So I'm definitely calling BS on this one.ronvalencia

2Ghz PowerPC G3 with VMX + FSB updates would rival IBM PPE (3.2Ghz PowerPC G1 with VMX + FSB updates) .

At the same clock speed, branch performance on PowerPC G3 would be superior compared to PPE. PowerPC G3 has the short pipeline advantage compare to Pentium 4 level PPE(21 stage).

Hopefully, IBM create it's own Intel Core like solution instead of another Intel Atom/Pentium IV like solution.

I'm not buying in to this rumor. It just doesn't sound plausible to me.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]That sounds stupid if for no other reason than jerry rigging three ancient PPC G3 processors into a modern one sounds quite a bit more complex and expensive than just using a modern PPC chip. So I'm definitely calling BS on this one.Zero5000X

2Ghz PowerPC G3 with VMX + FSB updates would rival IBM PPE (3.2Ghz PowerPC G1 with VMX + FSB updates) .

At the same clock speed, branch performance on PowerPC G3 would be superior compared to PPE. PowerPC G3 has the short pipeline advantage compare to Pentium 4 level PPE(21 stage).

Hopefully, IBM create it's own Intel Core like solution instead of another Intel Atom/Pentium IV like solution.

So even a guy with 5 posts on a random internet forum can create rumors that the gaming world will run with.....

bc1391

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

2Ghz PowerPC G3 with VMX + FSB updates would rival IBM PPE (3.2Ghz PowerPC G1 with VMX + FSB updates) .

At the same clock speed, branch performance on PowerPC G3 would be superior compared to PPE. PowerPC G3 has the short pipeline advantage compare to Pentium 4 level PPE(21 stage).

Hopefully, IBM create it's own Intel Core like solution instead of another Intel Atom/Pentium IV like solution.

parkurtommo

Honestly I dont even care about the Wii U specs. I still wonder why Nintendo hasnt released the officals specs yet.

http://e3.nintendo.com/wiiu/

Sure, let's just toss out what Nintendo gave us at e3 and say it's three Wii's strapped together...sigh.

Wii 1.5 confirmed!

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="gamesaredead420"]n64 is nintendo's last hardcore gamer focused console. Because nintendo/Snes early on nintendo didnt allow violent stuff like blood in mortal kombat.gamesaredead420

Its werid how MK2 MK3 an MK3U all had blood eh? They make 1 call, that didnt even matter seeing how MK1 looks like **** on megadrive, and people hose them for it. MK1 SNES is hands down better then MK megadrive.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]That sounds stupid if for no other reason than jerry rigging three ancient PPC G3 processors into a modern one sounds quite a bit more complex and expensive than just using a modern PPC chip. So I'm definitely calling BS on this one.Zero5000X

2Ghz PowerPC G3 with VMX + FSB updates would rival IBM PPE (3.2Ghz PowerPC G1 with VMX + FSB updates) .

At the same clock speed, branch performance on PowerPC G3 would be superior compared to PPE. PowerPC G3 has the short pipeline advantage compare to Pentium 4 level PPE(21 stage).

Hopefully, IBM create it's own Intel Core like solution instead of another Intel Atom/Pentium IV like solution.

At the same clock speed, PowerPC G3's CPU core is better than Xbox 360's PPE CPU core..

After the 128bit SIMD and FSB updates, this is like comparing Intel Atom X3 (PPE/PowerPC G1) vs AMD Athlon II X3 (PowerPC G3).

Wii 1.5 confirmed!

Far_RockNYC

Atleast the console doesn't have Intel Atom like CPU cores (Xbox 360's PPE).

IBM confirmed Wii-U is using the Watson/Power7 CPU.

That was last year. They also updated their Twitter 3 hours ago and reconfirmed it.

"WiiU has 45nm custom chip ... a SOI design & packs same processor tech found in #IBMWatson

Three Wii's duct taped together.Willy105

Just hope "enhanced broadway" doesn't result in Intel Core i3/i5/i7 type update i.e. enhanced Intel Pentium Pro(P6)/II/III/M/Core 1/Core 2.

IBM confirmed Wii-U is using the Watson/Power7 CPU.

That was last year. They also updated their Twitter 3 hours ago and reconfirmed it.

"WiiU has 45nm custom chip ... a SOI design & packs same processor tech found in #IBMWatson

ChubbyGuy40

Current Power7's wattage, die size and process tech says Hi.

Power7 follows PowerPC G3 out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree.

Power6 and PPE are not part of out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree.

Wattage and process tech with current Power7 says Hi.

Power7 follows PowerPC G3 out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. Power6 and PPE are not part of out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. ronvalencia

So what does this mean for the Wii-U? Good or bad thing?

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Wattage and process tech with current Power7 says Hi.

Power7 follows PowerPC G3 out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. Power6 and PPE are not part of out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. ChubbyGuy40

So what does this mean for the Wii-U? Good or bad thing?

It depends on how many updates has been applied for PowerPC G3 e.g. Intel Atom (PPE like) @ 3.2Ghz would beat Intel Core Solo @ 1.2 Ghz.

IBM PowerPC G3 is still a good CPU core that needs 128bit VMX, external bus and clock speed updates.

Wii U needs a low power updated PowerPC chip and current Power7 doesn't fit this TDP profile. Wii U needs a DTR laptop type CPU solution.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Wattage and process tech with current Power7 says Hi.

Power7 follows PowerPC G3 out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. Power6 and PPE are not part of out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. ChubbyGuy40

So what does this mean for the Wii-U? Good or bad thing?

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Wattage and process tech with current Power7 says Hi.

Power7 follows PowerPC G3 out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. Power6 and PPE are not part of out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. AtariKidX

So what does this mean for the Wii-U? Good or bad thing?

PowerPC G3 with 2Ghz (with 128bit VMX + FSB update) would beat IBM PPE @ 3.2Ghz (L2 cache @ 1.6Ghz for XBox 360)

Perhaps Nintendo should include AMD type PR (performance rating) marketing LOL e.g. PowerPC G6 Mobile 3200+ PR @1.6Ghz vs PPE @ 3.2Ghz.

At the same clock speed, PowerPC G4 would beat PowerPC G5 on non-FSB workloads e.g. PowerPC G4 @2Ghz (overclock) would beat PowerPC G5 @ 2Ghz.

PowerPC G5 @ 1.6Ghz would rival PPE @ 3.2Ghz e.g. LinuxPPC app benchmarks.

Don't believe this

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Wattage and process tech with current Power7 says Hi.

Power7 follows PowerPC G3 out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. Power6 and PPE are not part of out-of-order processing PowerPC family tree. AtariKidX

So what does this mean for the Wii-U? Good or bad thing?

It at the very least confirms massive superiority over teh Cell.

Don't believe this

super600

hermits translate

I bought a Wii knowing it would not be a powerhouse. This does not discourage me from my desires for the WiiU.

Though I do wish I didn't have to call it WiiU...

IBM already confirmed that it is a Power7 chip, similar to what is in Watson. This is one rumor that should have been put to rest by now.

A single core on the xbox 360 was only 20% faster than a single core from broadway. Broadway can't go above 1ghz so they have to improve it in that regards. Also the current Broadway architecture is not compatible for multicore designs. With that in mind the CPU should be a much better imrovement even at a low clock speed. It will refined enough to stand on its own. Also from what i've heard 2 cores will be a 476p, and the main core is a Power7 derivative, but again... rumors are rumors. Regardless the WiiU still won't be the strongest, but rest assured the CPU is at least 50% stronger.

hermits translate

Mario1331

Thermals would be too hot for Wii U's form factor.

IBM Power7 (8 cores) has a die size 567 mm^2 (1). No consoles was shipped with this die size!

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Cutdown Power 7 with 3 cores would be around 212 mm^2 or less without L3 cache.

IBM CELL DD2 (1 PPE, 8 SPE) has die size of 235 mm^2 (first generation, PS3 has 1 disabled SPE)

AMD FX-8xxx (8 cores) has die size of 315 mm^2

AMD Phenom II X6 (6 cores) has die size of 346 mm^2.

AMD Radeon HD 7970 has a die size is 365 mm^2.

Intel Core i7 IvyBridge (4 cores, 16 IEUs) has a die size is 160 mm^2.

Reference 1.

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/download/attachments/104533149/POWER7+Technology.pdf

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

So what does this mean for the Wii-U? Good or bad thing?

ChubbyGuy40

It at the very least confirms massive superiority over teh Cell.

Ouch.

Cell = roughly comparable to Pentium 4 (PPE) & GeForce 7800 GTX (5x SPE) in raw power.

But it's not as good for processing and graphics as the above mentioned combo.

Infact Cell doing graphics on it's own looks nothing special:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehwFOM4CBKA

bit dissappointed Wii U is only gonna be triple core- I mean why not go quad-core?

PC has had quad core CPUs for years and it's reasonably to assume that X720/ PS4 will be at least quad core.

That sounds stupid if for no other reason than jerry rigging three ancient PPC G3 processors into a modern one sounds quite a bit more complex and expensive than just using a modern PPC chip. So I'm definitely calling BS on this one.famicommander

Why pay for a new processor when you can use 3 of the old one? Worked for the Wii, why not the Wii U?

bit dissappointed Wii U is only gonna be triple core- I mean why not go quad-core?

PC has had quad core CPUs for years and it's reasonably to assume that X720/ PS4 will be at least quad core.

CwlHeddwyn

Power7 core can do 6 instruction issues** per cycle from it's dispatch unit while PPE can only do two instruction issues per cycle.

Power7's six instruction issues per cycle can slot into any of following units

• 2 fixed-point units
• 2 load/store units
• 4 double-precision floating-point units
• 1 vector unit supporting VSX (SIMD)
• 1 decimal floating-point unit
• 1 branch unit
• 1 condition register unit

PowerPC G5 can do 5 instruction issues per cycle.

With Linux app benchmarks, PowerPC G5 @1.6Ghz is roughly equivalent to PPE @ 3.2Ghz.

PS; X86 instruction decodes into two RISC instructions i.e. one AGU and one ALU.

If it runs Batman Arkham City Well and Assassin's Creed 3 well I don't see the big deal, it just means the games will look better on the LCD screens now.

I just don't like the trend I'm seeing here.

I can't believe people actually want to see some old dude's nose hairs when playing a game.

Theyve made so many Wii's... They can now bundle them up together. After Next-Gen, there will be 6 Wii's bundled together

If it runs Batman Arkham City Well and Assassin's Creed 3 well I don't see the big deal, it just means the games will look better on the LCD screens now.

I just don't like the trend I'm seeing here.

I can't believe people actually want to see some old dude's nose hairs when playing a game.

LegatoSkyheart