RUMOR-Next Final Fantasy to be bigger better than Skyrim and FF7!!

[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] True, that they cannot do much worse than 13-2, so perhaps there is some hope for them yet. That is the last FF game I will by with any hope they make games as good as they used to though, it was aweful. bushidotu

quit trying to defend the game... everyone is entitled to thier own opinion if he say's its crap then its crap in his eye's

Square has made plenty of mistakes, but at least they learn from them. And they never make the same game twice. They're one of the few (or only) gaming companies I've seen come out and basically say "oops, we made a huge mistake" and try and fix it with the revamp of FF14. BioWare/EA wasted 100s of millions of dollars on a crappy MMO and it's just going to die out. At least SE cares enough to fix their mess. Same deal with 13-2. The game isn't a masterpiece, but they took the universe they created and used fan feedback to improve the sequel... 13-2 is a huge improvement over 13. But I couldn't care less how people feel because it's cool to hate on Square Enix and most Americans would rather play generic medieval WRPGs with huge worlds, no direction and nothing to do than admit that they enjoyed a JRPG.Fossil-

maybe he is talking about FFvs? Because if FFvs is still not out yet and the rumored game is supposed to be bigger than Skyrim and better than FF7 it will take them at the very least 10 years to develop!

I CALLSHENANIGANS !!

Well, in this day and age, it's not exactly difficult to make a game that's bigger and better than FF7.1PMrFister

Bigger? yes but better is a different story. Square can't seem to make a good story anymore or even likeable characters. FF characters were always cliche at times but sometimes they had depth and personality, these days they're just cliched stereotypical heroes/villains with no dimension to them

Square can't seem to make a good story anymore or even likeable characters. FF characters were always cliche at times but sometimes they had depth and personality, these days they're just cliched stereotypical heroes/villains with no dimension to them

seanmcloughlin

I think they have a certain depth but I just plain don't like them. They sound so fake at times, it's like watching some bad actors on Youtube. Everytime, I ask myself, would a normal person act that way and the answer is almost always no. They just can't seem to give their games that level of realism. I am talking about FFXIII, I don't even want to play FFXIII-2 because I can't imagine characters being that much different.

[QUOTE="1PMrFister"]Well, in this day and age, it's not exactly difficult to make a game that's bigger and better than FF7.seanmcloughlin

Bigger? yes but better is a different story. Square can't seem to make a good story anymore or even likeable characters. FF characters were always cliche at times but sometimes they had depth and personality, these days they're just cliched stereotypical heroes/villains with no dimension to them

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Chris_Williams

LOL

So is Versus FFXV now? Or that thing is officially dead?

I'd be happy if they just copied Xenoblade Chronicles.

That world was huge.

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Chris_Williams

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cfstar

I think he meant it as a joke, I'd be really surprised if they didn't learn from that mistake.

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Mr_Cumberdale

This.

Looks like alot of fanboys didn't play FFXII because of their idiot bias. They don't have a clue. I actually came in to bash this thread until I saw that.

Ok all those bullet points sound fantastic. The bit about evolving FFXIIs battle system really has me interested.

But the goals of being "bigger and better than Skyrim and FFVII" tell me that they might not have their collective heads in the right place. The fact that they continue to put FFVII on such a pedestal without understanding why it was such a smash hit to begin with worries me.

This would get me hyped for the next FF game, rumors a rumor though. D: Prob fake.

Ok all those bullet points sound fantastic. The bit about evolving FFXIIs battle system really has me interested.

But the goals of being "bigger and better than Skyrim and FFVII" tell me that they might not have their collective heads in the right place. The fact that they continue to put FFVII on such a pedestal without understanding why it was such a smash hit to begin with worries me.

Wiimotefan

*eye twitches*

FF release Final Fantasy Versus 13 already you lazy chumps.

Funny article from the latest Gameinformer magazine about versus 13

Since it's announcement at E3 in 2006

• All three Mass Effect games released
• The entire Assassin's Creed franchise
• The rise and fall of music games
• Four other main FF games (XII,XIII,XIII-2 and XIV)
• Bioshock and Bioshock 2 released *Ballroompirate side note- probably Bioshock 3 as well*
• CoD 3,WaW,Black Ops and 3 MW titles *Ballroompirate side note- and Black Ops 2*
• The Playstation 3's entire life
• The Wii craze
• Sony and MS introducing/releasing their own motion controllers
• Duke Nukem Forever

Issue 232 Aug 2012 of Gameinformer

Final Fantasy, the next Sonic, was once great but went to the dumps and never returned.OpenHat

It did kinda return only when they attempted to go back to it's roots. Sonic Generations it's called. Sonic 4 was a disaster though. FF needs to go back to it's roots, it can do new things sure. but not at the cost of butchering the franchise aka Final Fantasy XIII.

• The co-director led a small part of the development team to make Tactics Ogre for the PSP in parallel with FFXV. He's currently multi-tasking as lead UI designer of FFXIV 2.0 and co-director of FFXV.

HAZE-Unit

This is probably the sketchiest part of the rumor. How does one guy take on three major development roles for 3 separate (and significant) projects in the space of four years?

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• The co-director led a small part of the development team to make Tactics Ogre for the PSP in parallel with FFXV. He's currently multi-tasking as lead UI designer of FFXIV 2.0 and co-director of FFXV.

WTA2k5

This is probably the sketchiest part of the rumor. How does one guy take on three major development roles for 3 separate (and significant) projects in the space of a few years?

How do they keep the biggest project in the companies history a secret for four years? especially with Square Enix's bad habbit of announcing games before they are even being worked on. I really want this rumor to be true but it just doesnt sound right. I just want Versus to come out.

[QUOTE="OpenHat"]Final Fantasy, the next Sonic, was once great but went to the dumps and never returned.Crossel777

It did kinda return only when they attempted to go back to it's roots. Sonic Generations it's called. Sonic 4 was a disaster though. FF needs to go back to it's roots, it can do new things sure. but not at the cost of butchering the franchise aka Final Fantasy XIII.

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Ok all those bullet points sound fantastic. The bit about evolving FFXIIs battle system really has me interested.

But the goals of being "bigger and better than Skyrim and FFVII" tell me that they might not have their collective heads in the right place. The fact that they continue to put FFVII on such a pedestal without understanding why it was such a smash hit to begin with worries me.

Crossel777

Hey I loved the game. For a good while I considered it one of my favorite games of all time. I even still enjoy it today.

That said, you cant deny the fact that its immense popularity was a result of (at the time) never before seen high production values. It was the JRPG that finally busted the genre into the mainstream. Gamers who previously couldn't care less about the genre came into the fold for the graphics, effects and pre-rendered cutscenes. It was a "my first rpg" for so many people. As a result it was also the first story heavy game for many of those people. So naturally it holds a special place in their hearts.

The game did nothing to surpass previous rpgs and was outclassed by many rpgs afterwards. This situation isnt much different than OoT. Both games were awesome at the time and are still enjoyable today, but they receive a disproportionate amount praise simply because of their place in time.

I'm not saying FFVII wasnt good, or even great, but if you cant clearly see what fuels its immense popularity then the ignorance is on you.

Love FF but just NO!!!

If it's true then we'll hear it from them soon enough. I'm not holding my breath.

So they wanna make a better selling Xenoblade?

So they wanna make a better selling Xenoblade?

ActicEdge

But FFXII is older than xenoblade its not like Xenoblade is the first large scale JRPG.

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casharmy

This.

Looks like alot of fanboys didn't play FFXII because of their idiot bias. They don't have a clue. I actually came in to bash this thread until I saw that.

Indeed, FFXII battle system was awesome.

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So they wanna make a better selling Xenoblade?

Kashiwaba

But FFXII is older than xenoblade its not like Xenoblade is the first large scale JRPG.

Sure but its the most recent JRPG that is meeting many of the bullet points on that list. I personally haven't played many if any JRPGs as large scale as Xenoblade. I also hate FF12 but that's not relevant I suspose :P

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So they wanna make a better selling Xenoblade?

ActicEdge

But FFXII is older than xenoblade its not like Xenoblade is the first large scale JRPG.

Sure but its the most recent JRPG that is meeting many of the bullet points on that list. I personally haven't played many if any JRPGs as large scale as Xenoblade. I also hate FF12 but that's not relevant I suspose :P

Well I admit Xenoblade did a more interesting large scale world than FF12 and it was more dynamic than DQ8 and WKC worlds so basicaly its the best large scale world in a JRPG.

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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

But FFXII is older than xenoblade its not like Xenoblade is the first large scale JRPG.

Kashiwaba

Sure but its the most recent JRPG that is meeting many of the bullet points on that list. I personally haven't played many if any JRPGs as large scale as Xenoblade. I also hate FF12 but that's not relevant I suspose :P

Well I admit Xenoblade did a more interesting large scale world than FF12 and it was more dynamic than DQ8 and WKC worlds so basicaly its the best large scale world in a JRPG.

Xenoblade is one of the best RPGs to come around in the last decade or so imo but my comment was more about it seeming like SE just wanted to creat a Xenoblade style RPG is all. I dunno why they want a game as expansive as skyrim and styled in that way though. That doesn't seem to fit an FF title. They should go towards 12 again, just make it actually fun to play :P

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]I don't need to predict it, it is pretty fkn obvious from the state of every game they have released this gen. bloodling

This gen was a failure. There are plenty of gens still to come. Even SE officials said that XIII was a failure. Chances are, the FF name isn't about to die and if you want me to predict how it's gonna turn out, well I say it would be difficult for them to do worse, so we might be surprised if they do step it up.

I have yet to see a majority of the FF fanbase claim XIII was a failure let alone an SE official.

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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]I don't need to predict it, it is pretty fkn obvious from the state of every game they have released this gen. chocolatesoda

This gen was a failure. There are plenty of gens still to come. Even SE officials said that XIII was a failure. Chances are, the FF name isn't about to die and if you want me to predict how it's gonna turn out, well I say it would be difficult for them to do worse, so we might be surprised if they do step it up.

I have yet to see a majority of the FF fanbase claim XIII was a failure let alone an SE official.

Its the least liked Main FF in a long time.

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I have yet to see a majority of the FF fanbase claim XIII was a failure let alone an SE official.

ActicEdge

Its the least liked Main FF in a long time.

That isn't saying much. Besides, it has a user score of 8 on Metacritic, and each FF installment garners some hate.

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I have yet to see a majority of the FF fanbase claim XIII was a failure let alone an SE official.

chocolatesoda

Its the least liked Main FF in a long time.

That isn't saying much. Besides, it has a user score of 8 on Metacritic, and each FF installment garners some hate.

This one has had the most critic and gamer backlash since the release of FF11. Not saying it isn't a good game, more that it did let down the fanbase and it did hurt the companies reputation.

That's not saying much :?

I have yet to see a majority of the FF fanbase claim XIII was a failure let alone an SE official.

chocolatesoda

That's because you're blind. The only people who were defending FF13 when it released were "it's bad but I could still enjoy it" apologists.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its the least liked Main FF in a long time.

ActicEdge

That isn't saying much. Besides, it has a user score of 8 on Metacritic, and each FF installment garners some hate.

This one has had the most critic and gamer backlash since the release of FF11. Not saying it isn't a good game, more that it did let down the fanbase and it did hurt the companies reputation.

I suppose it was polarizing, but with each new FF, Square Enix has a clean slate: not including XIII-2 since that was a sequel but even that profited.

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I have yet to see a majority of the FF fanbase claim XIII was a failure let alone an SE official.

N30F3N1X

That's because you're blind. The only people who were defending FF13 when it released were "it's bad but I could still enjoy it" apologists.

Sorry I wasn't aware of the unwarranted hatred the game received when it was released because I didn't play it then. I am; however, aware that fans of the game grow by the day and that it's only a matter of time until it's considered a "classic."

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I have yet to see a majority of the FF fanbase claim XIII was a failure let alone an SE official.

chocolatesoda

That's because you're blind. The only people who were defending FF13 when it released were "it's bad but I could still enjoy it" apologists.

Sorry I wasn't aware of the unwarranted hatred the game received when it was released because I didn't play it then. I am; however, aware that fans of the game grow by the day and that it's only a matter of time until it's considered a "classic."

XIII sold a ton (one of the fastest selling ever) and overall very positive reviews. The people who think XIII was some massive bomb spend too much time here.

Sorry I wasn't aware of the unwarranted hatred the game received when it was released because I didn't play it then. I am; however, aware that fans of the game grow by the day and that it's only a matter of time until it's considered a "classic."

chocolatesoda

You believe FF13 will be considered a classic?

And I thought I had seen everything SW has to offer :lol:

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Sorry I wasn't aware of the unwarranted hatred the game received when it was released because I didn't play it then. I am; however, aware that fans of the game grow by the day and that it's only a matter of time until it's considered a "classic."

N30F3N1X

You believe FF13 will be considered a classic?

And I thought I had seen everything SW has to offer :lol:

EVERY main series FF is considered a classic at some point in time.