Saint's Row 2 > GTA4? (new trailer)

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#51 ThisCurse
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While I doubt it will be better than GTA4(imo), I will definitely buy SR2. I am such a sucker for any GTA clone and this games seems to be doing some great things, so yeah, they have my $60.
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#52 Pro_wrestler
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Seems it has more wacky things to do than GTA4.
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#53 Sooshy
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It's a good route to go in. They're not going to be able to compete with GTA on a realistic level, so this way there is room for both on the market.
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#54 elektrixxx
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What I would rather is to actually do storyline missions one after the other instead of being forced to do "activities" all the time.
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#55 E M I N 3 M
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They should seriously run that as their commerical. That was a good trailer 8)
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#56 ArisShadows
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That is awesome, I can't wait!
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#57 JonJonJohnnyJon
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What I would rather is to actually do storyline missions one after the other instead of being forced to do "activities" all the time.elektrixxx

The video was titled: "Activities: Saints Row 2 vs. GTA IV", so the whole point of the video was the activities, hence the reason no storyline missions were shown.

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#58 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]GTAIV is much better but I would have liked some strange stuff in GTAIV. Where are the fun weapons?BioShockOwnz

In Saint's Row 2, apparently.

C'mon! Septic tank truck that you can spray people with? How much win is that.

It's a step back for gaming as a legitimate entertainment medium.

But GTA is? The game is known for car jacking and beating up hookers with bats. Neither one is a gem when it come to making gaming a legitimate entertainment medium. Unless I misunderstood what you ment.
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#59 TheGTAvaccine
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Some of the stuff looks pretty cool, but did anyone notice that a LOT of the stuff on the video is just stuff they took out of past GTA games?

Demolition derbies, flying planes, hell even protecting the band on stage reminded me of the Love Fist missions. Once a clone, always a clone.

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#60 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]GTAIV is much better but I would have liked some strange stuff in GTAIV. Where are the fun weapons?Eltroz

In Saint's Row 2, apparently.

C'mon! Septic tank truck that you can spray people with? How much win is that.

It's a step back for gaming as a legitimate entertainment medium.

But GTA is? The game is known for car jacking and beating up hookers with bats. Neither one is a gem when it come to making gaming a legitimate entertainment medium. Unless I misunderstood what you ment.

GTA IV does it in a more mature and tasteful way, although it's still sprinkled with distasteful immaturity. SR2 is trying to sell itself off of its distasteful immaturity. It's a copycat, so Volition feels the need to "shock" people.

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#61 gtawoof
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Why is everyone getting so excited about spraying people with that stuff, i dont see the appeal. It looks like when you sprayed the water from the fire fighter truck in GTA3, except instead of water its crap =/ WOW OMFG SO MUCH BETTER THEN GTA4 OMFG OMFG, No.
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#62 TheGTAvaccine
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I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

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#63 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]BioShockOwnz

It's a step back for gaming as a legitimate entertainment medium.

But GTA is? The game is known for car jacking and beating up hookers with bats. Neither one is a gem when it come to making gaming a legitimate entertainment medium. Unless I misunderstood what you ment.

GTA IV does it in a more mature and tasteful way, although it's still sprinkled with distasteful immaturity. SR2 is trying to sell itself off of its distasteful immaturity. It's a copycat, so Volition feels the need to "shock" people.

Well thats cool. I disagree completly but we all are able to have opinions.
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#64 Formula_50
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I didn't see this thread before I posted. I have to admit that I was swept up into GTA hype. It was my first experience with the franchise and fell asleep on this game literally. I didn't care about spending time with the phonebook. The cars don't control as sharp as Saints Row. I couldn't save cars. I had to pay for ammo. I felt that Los Carnales alone were more interesting than the plot of GTA 4. The theme of backstabbing got old after 15 minutes. A lot of people have turned their back on Saints Row after GTA 4 came out. I am honest with my gaming. I am still playing Saints Row.
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#65 stephant_6
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Hey guys, you can spray crap on crowds of people. It's official, SR2 > GTA IV.BioShockOwnz

GTA4 is seriously lacking in the crazyness factor. All of the old wacky things I loved in San Andreas are gone in GTA4.

No more crazy weapons,like Katanas,chainsaws,meat cleavers,flamethrowers etc...

No more tanks. You can't even destroy trains in GTA4. Saints Row 1 did that.

Saints Row 2 obviously won't be a better game overall,but it'll last alot longer for me because it looks like it's bringing fun back to rampaging.

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#66 PS3_3DO
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Some of the stuff looks pretty cool, but did anyone notice that a LOT of the stuff on the video is just stuff they took out of past GTA games?

Demolition derbies, flying planes, hell even protecting the band on stage reminded me of the Love Fist missions. Once a clone, always a clone.

TheGTAvaccine

So GTA4 is a clone of Saint's Row since Rockstar copied the GPS and the Cell Phone. :|

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#67 TheGTAvaccine
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[QUOTE="TheGTAvaccine"]

Some of the stuff looks pretty cool, but did anyone notice that a LOT of the stuff on the video is just stuff they took out of past GTA games?

Demolition derbies, flying planes, hell even protecting the band on stage reminded me of the Love Fist missions. Once a clone, always a clone.

PS3_3DO

So GTA4 is a clone of Saint's Row since Rockstar copied the GPS and the Cell Phone. :|

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#68 BioShockOwnz
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I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

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The story was quite atrocious.

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#69 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="TheGTAvaccine"]

I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

BioShockOwnz

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The story was quite atrocious.

I actually like that dude.

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#71 insanejedi
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Uhh GTA 4 actually has a story thats as good as The Godfather, Scarface, and Heat?
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#72 TheGTAvaccine
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[QUOTE="TheGTAvaccine"]

I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

BioShockOwnz

One of the worst game characters ever...

The story was quite atrocious.

His appearance pretty much sums up the quality of the entire game.

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#73 Corvin
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I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

TheGTAvaccine

Actually Saints Row was extremely fun. I had a few paragraphs typed out in one of the other GTA vs. Saints Row threads I tried to post in before I saw this one, but since the mods see fit to go on ****ing locking sprees it was lost in the ether of the internet tubes for all time.

But basically I think there is a place in the world for both Saints Row and GTA. GTA has taken a more serious approach, and it was a great game, but SR was just crazy fun. Say what you will about the gangsta baditude, I thought it was pretty silly and over the top, the shooting mechanics were simple but solid, and I actually thought the story was funny and well done. People gotta stop taking stories in games like this so seriously.

Overall Saints Row feels pretty under-appreciated and I'm looking forward to SR2 as much or more than I was GTA IV.

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#74 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="TheGTAvaccine"]

I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

Corvin

Actually Saints Row was extremely fun. I had a few paragraphs typed out in one of the other GTA vs. Saints Row threads I tried to post in before I saw this one, but since the mods see fit to go on ****ing locking sprees it was lost in the ether of the internet tubes for all time.

But basically I think there is a place in the world for both Saints Row and GTA. GTA has taken a more serious approach, and it was a great game, but SR was just crazy fun. Say what you will about the gangsta baditude, I thought it was pretty silly and over the top, the shooting mechanics were simple but solid, and I actually thought the story was funny and well done. People gotta stop taking stories in games like this so seriously.

Overall Saints Row feels pretty under-appreciated and I'm looking forward to SR2 as much or more than I was GTA IV.

I agree.

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#75 killerfist
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funny video, but Ill have to see more than that

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#76 rolo107
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I hate when advertisements do that. Anyways, it looks good, not as realistic like GTA IV was.
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#77 clintos59
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Now that is what I call bad a$$. I just hope this game can deliver as whole like GTA4. But from a gameplay point of view, looks like GTA4 got some good competition on its rear in the same genre. The gameplay already looks solid. :)
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#78 masiisam
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comedy...I like the direction..it should be pretty fun
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#79 club-sandwich
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Saints Row was super fun fun fun, Saints Row 2 will be super fun fun fun too. : D
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#80 heretrix
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That looks seriously entertaining. I'll judge it on it's own merits and give it a chance.
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#81 Arjdagr8
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what a stupid trailer. style+quality over random content imo. i wanna try this game but im pretty sure that this wont hold a candle to GTA4
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#82 Dreams-Visions
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I hate when advertisements do that. Anyways, it looks good, not as realistic like GTA IV was. rolo107
yea, realistic is definitely not their angle.
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#83 munu9
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LOL, it's funny because all the things that they named off that you can do in GTA IV are probably more fun than a lot of the things in SR 2...
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#84 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="TheGTAvaccine"]

I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

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The story was quite atrocious.

the story is what sold saints row wasnt it?

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LOL, it's funny because all the things that they named off that you can do in GTA IV are probably more fun than a lot of the things in SR 2...munu9

Exactly, because there is absolutely nothing funnier than playing chauffer. I mean, who would rather ride shotgun during a drug trafficing mission fighting a wave of cops and enemy gang members when they could be driving their friend back home from a Burger Shot, stopping at a toll booth and... zzzz.

I will not apologize for the first Saint's Row. It's story was pretty stupid. However, it also did a lot of things right. It's combat and garage system are outstanding in my opinion. Best of all: It was fun.

GTA4 was fun until right after the bank Heist. Then the plane crashed right into the mountain.

If you like GTA4, that's great. It is a very pretty game and has some great things to do in it. One great thing about it was the taxi system. Another great thing I enjoyed was the cover system. However, that's about it.

The fact is, I am looking forward to Saints Row 2. I think it will succeed in the areas GTA4 fails.

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#86 funnymario
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It looks good, but I'm not in the market for another sandbox-gangster game right now.
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#87 numba1234
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Pretty easy for saints row 2 to be better than gta4, seeing how gta 4 was the worst in series (outside of the 2d gta games)
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#88 ReverseCycology
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Wow, they're really going after GTA IV, and yeah, those SR2 activities looks fun.

Unless the PS3 get exclusive episodic content, there's no reason to get it for it if you have both consoles, because everyone associates Saint's Row with the 360.

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#89 LinKuei_warrior
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I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

TheGTAvaccine

i think youve been hanging with grove street too much.

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#90 LinKuei_warrior
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Why is everyone getting so excited about spraying people with that stuff, i dont see the appeal. It looks like when you sprayed the water from the fire fighter truck in GTA3, except instead of water its crap =/ WOW OMFG SO MUCH BETTER THEN GTA4 OMFG OMFG, No.shadyd1717

is there even a water shooter in GTAIV or did reality get the best of that game?

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#91 BioShockOwnz
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Pretty easy for saints row 2 to be better than gta4, seeing how gta 4 was the worst in series (outside of the 2d gta games)numba1234

Saints Row was worse than every GTA game, including LCS and VCS, so I highly doubt Saints Row 2 will be anything more. I expect the same mediocrity this time around, yet for some reason, Saints Row 2 looks even worse than the original, visually.

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#92 murat8
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[QUOTE="TheGTAvaccine"]

I've said this once and I'll reitirate it. Did everyone just up and forget what a steaming turd Saints Row was? I mean yeah, it had some fun parts (like insurance fraud), but the physics were horrendous, and the story was atrocious. And I mean atrocious. The voice actors all had that "YO YO YO" mentality too. Yuck.

BioShockOwnz

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The story was quite atrocious.

yea i didnt like that guy either but i think that was the purpose of that character and the story was pretty good IMO
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#93 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="numba1234"]Pretty easy for saints row 2 to be better than gta4, seeing how gta 4 was the worst in series (outside of the 2d gta games)BioShockOwnz

Saints Row was worse than every GTA game, including LCS and VCS, so I highly doubt Saints Row 2 will be anything more. I expect the same mediocrity this time around, yet for some reason, Saints Row 2 looks even worse than the original, visually.

ok now i know your just being a GTA fanboy when your saying saintsrow was worse than those garbage handheld games.

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#94 murat8
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[QUOTE="numba1234"]Pretty easy for saints row 2 to be better than gta4, seeing how gta 4 was the worst in series (outside of the 2d gta games)BioShockOwnz

Saints Row was worse than every GTA game, including LCS and VCS, so I highly doubt Saints Row 2 will be anything more. I expect the same mediocrity this time around, yet for some reason, Saints Row 2 looks even worse than the original, visually.

are u sure u played SR cuz IMO it was better then every GTA game not counting GTA4
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#95 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="numba1234"]Pretty easy for saints row 2 to be better than gta4, seeing how gta 4 was the worst in series (outside of the 2d gta games)LinKuei_warrior

Saints Row was worse than every GTA game, including LCS and VCS, so I highly doubt Saints Row 2 will be anything more. I expect the same mediocrity this time around, yet for some reason, Saints Row 2 looks even worse than the original, visually.

ok now i know your just being a GTA fanboy when your saying saintsrow was worse than those garbage handheld games.

If I was such a GTA fanboy, then I wouldn't dislike GTA: SA, which I do. Saints Row just wasn't good, except for its targeting/aiming system. It was downright mediocre and as a copycat -- I expected mediocrity. Of course, there's nothing wrong with enjoying a mediocre game.

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#97 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="LinKuei_warrior"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="numba1234"]Pretty easy for saints row 2 to be better than gta4, seeing how gta 4 was the worst in series (outside of the 2d gta games)BioShockOwnz

Saints Row was worse than every GTA game, including LCS and VCS, so I highly doubt Saints Row 2 will be anything more. I expect the same mediocrity this time around, yet for some reason, Saints Row 2 looks even worse than the original, visually.

ok now i know your just being a GTA fanboy when your saying saintsrow was worse than those garbage handheld games.

If I was such a GTA fanboy, then I wouldn't dislike GTA: SA, which I do. Saints Row just wasn't good, except for its targeting/aiming system. It was downright mediocre and as a copycat -- I expected mediocrity. Of course, there's nothing wrong with enjoying a mediocre game.

thats fine dude..you dont need to prove your point when you make bold statements like saying handheld GTA games are better than saints row.

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#98 numba1234
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[QUOTE="numba1234"]Pretty easy for saints row 2 to be better than gta4, seeing how gta 4 was the worst in series (outside of the 2d gta games)BioShockOwnz

Saints Row was worse than every GTA game, including LCS and VCS, so I highly doubt Saints Row 2 will be anything more. I expect the same mediocrity this time around, yet for some reason, Saints Row 2 looks even worse than the original, visually.

Saints Row was mediocre, and plain out terrible. I agree, but gta 4 I would say ditto. GTA 4 only redeeming point was its cover system, its story, and realism gameplay were plain out boring. Who wants to go bowling for a mini game? Get rid of half the weapon and blood. Ruin the driving system, and make hand to hand combat utterly useless?
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#99 BioShockOwnz
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that fine dude..you dont need to prove your point when you make bold statements like saying handheld GTA games are better than saints row.

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Gamespot obviously thinks the same. LCS and VCS scored higher than SR.

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#100 LinKuei_warrior
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yeah...i wonder how different the standards were for rating them were...there probably were big ones like one having current PS2 gta graphics on a handheld and playing sorta/kinda like a PS2 GTA on a handheld