The insecurity in PS3 haters is astounding. :|
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Cows last gen:
- Graphics doesn't matter!
- Sales do matter!
- Online doesn't matter
Cows current gen:
- Graphics do matter, lots!
- Sales doesn't matter.... until the ps3 sales turns around.
- Online do matter!
There are loads of examples like these, It's a lot harder to do the same listing with the lemmings and sheep.
Lemmings in 06, "Exclusives are all that matter" Lemmings in 09, "We have plenty of multiplats so exclusives don't matter"Cows last gen:
- Graphics doesn't matter!
- Sales do matter!
- Online doesn't matter
Cows current gen:
- Graphics do matter, lots!
- Sales doesn't matter.... until the ps3 sales turns around.
- Online do matter!
There are loads of examples like these, It's a lot harder to do the same listing with the lemmings and sheep.
kaealy
[QUOTE="kaealy"]Lemmings in 06, "Exclusives are all that matter" Lemmings in 09, "We have plenty of multiplats so exclusives don't matter"Cows last gen:
- Graphics doesn't matter!
- Sales do matter!
- Online doesn't matter
Cows current gen:
- Graphics do matter, lots!
- Sales doesn't matter.... until the ps3 sales turns around.
- Online do matter!
There are loads of examples like these, It's a lot harder to do the same listing with the lemmings and sheep.
Ragnarok1051
That's not really true is it? Because most fanboys always look past the "exklusive list spreadsheet" that shows that 360 has more and higher ranked exklusives here at gamespot.
Lemmings in 06, "Exclusives are all that matter" Lemmings in 09, "We have plenty of multiplats so exclusives don't matter"[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="kaealy"]
Cows last gen:
- Graphics doesn't matter!
- Sales do matter!
- Online doesn't matter
Cows current gen:
- Graphics do matter, lots!
- Sales doesn't matter.... until the ps3 sales turns around.
- Online do matter!
There are loads of examples like these, It's a lot harder to do the same listing with the lemmings and sheep.
kaealy
That's not really true is it? Because most fanboys always look past the "exklusive list spreadsheet" that shows that 360 has more and higher ranked exklusives here at gamespot.
Nope. Exclusives are all that lemmings cared about in 06 and 07. Soon as the PS3 started getting high ranking exclusives then the lemmings went to the exclusives don't matter. Lemmings used to bash the Cows for using multiplats, but now it is the lemmings.Why do people single out ONE group of fanboys as if these flaws are not shared by ALL FANBOYS. Let's take a look at SW's past: MS fanboys bragged about their consoles sales up until the Wii started catching up at a crazy rate. Then they decided to just NOT COUNT the Wii and continue with the argument up until the PS3 price drop to 400. Then the PS3 outsold it in EVERY region and MS fanboys went back to the exclusive game argument until their price drop. Then as this gen. went on the PS3 started getting more and more 1st party exclusives coming out and doing well and MS fanboys started NOT COUNTING the PC as a system and decided to use the "console exclusive" argument or the "not on the PS3". So now when arguing about a systems library they want to bring up selective multiplat games to fluff their list up. Then we have Nintendo fanboys that ONLY wanna talk about sales and pretend that the PS2 was the best system last gen. because it sold more, while ignoring the fact that the PS2 had the most highest rated quality games. All fanboys suck. Stop singling one group out as worse. The truth is PS3 fanboys bring up the sales of the PS3 because its doing well now. When the 360s sales were poor they didn't wanna talk about it until their price drop, then dissing on the PS3's fanbase size was sheik again.Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(I'm curious as to why all SW rules are in favor of cows)
Blue-Sky
Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(I'm curious as to why all SW rules are in favor of cows)
Blue-Sky
because they are the largest group of fanboys, bar none. they were also responsible for making the rule that any game that also appears on the pc is multiplat. then they tried to bypass the multiplat rule when claiming that games like mlb the show are ps3 exclusive despite the fact that the same exact game could be found on the ps2 and psp.
[QUOTE="darthogre"]Next month is where you are going to see the real impact for NPD numbers.Jandurinoh yeah. so we need to wait a month and a week D= Maybe you misunderstood me. You will have to wait another month for them to release Sept sales through NPD. Saying limited supplies were available early in some locations doesn't really mean anything. And you can't really use the "well they had the phat PS3 at $299 too" excuse because who in their right mind is going to buy the phat right now if they know a better/smaller PS3 is being released a week from then. I know it's funny to say but you really do have to wait for the Sept NPD numbers. It will be bigger than what Lems think it'll be and definetly smaller than what cows think it will be (judging by the "PS3 will overtake X360 this year" posts)
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="darthogre"]Next month is where you are going to see the real impact for NPD numbers.darthogreoh yeah. so we need to wait a month and a week D= Maybe you misunderstood me. You will have to wait another month for them to release Sept sales through NPD. Saying limited supplies were available early in some locations doesn't really mean anything. And you can't really use the "well they had the phat PS3 at $299 too" excuse because who in their right mind is going to buy the phat right now if they know a better/smaller PS3 is being released a week from then. I know it's funny to say but you really do have to wait for the Sept NPD numbers. It will be bigger than what Lems think it'll be and definetly smaller than what cows think it will be (judging by the "PS3 will overtake X360 this year" posts) What? I was completely agreeing with you, how did I misunderstand you?
[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] oh yeah. so we need to wait a month and a week D=JandurinMaybe you misunderstood me. You will have to wait another month for them to release Sept sales through NPD. Saying limited supplies were available early in some locations doesn't really mean anything. And you can't really use the "well they had the phat PS3 at $299 too" excuse because who in their right mind is going to buy the phat right now if they know a better/smaller PS3 is being released a week from then. I know it's funny to say but you really do have to wait for the Sept NPD numbers. It will be bigger than what Lems think it'll be and definetly smaller than what cows think it will be (judging by the "PS3 will overtake X360 this year" posts) What? I was completely agreeing with you, how did I misunderstand you? sorry I misunderstood you.....I thought you were poking fun at saying "just wait" lol. It's habit when talking about PS3......when a response is just wait I assume you are being sarcastic.
[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(I'm curious as to why all SW rules are in favor of cows)
cowgriller
because they are the largest group of fanboys, bar none. they were also responsible for making the rule that any game that also appears on the pc is multiplat. then they tried to bypass the multiplat rule when claiming that games like mlb the show are ps3 exclusive despite the fact that the same exact game could be found on the ps2 and psp.
so negate the existence of the best system out there? The PC...no, this is system wars, not console/companies war But multipats drive the industry right now, and the 360 has benefited and will benefit a lot for games like ME and L4D..and it's library will get stronger, but no way it cannot be counted as an exclusive[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(cows)
cowgriller
because they are the largest group of fanboys, bar none. they were also responsible for making the rule that any game that also appears on the pc is multiplat. then they tried to bypass the multiplat rule when claiming that games like mlb the show are ps3 exclusive despite the fact that the same exact game could be found on the ps2 and psp.
They Tried?
If they ruled the forums, they wouldn't try, it would be done.
Cows last gen:
- Graphics doesn't matter!
- Sales do matter!
- Online doesn't matter
Cows current gen:
- Graphics do matter, lots!
- Sales doesn't matter.... until the ps3 sales turns around.
- Online do matter!
There are loads of examples like these, It's a lot harder to do the same listing with the lemmings and sheep.
kaealy
Wow, Generalizatin FTL.
Actually, none of this is true, I was here, and you are a new account.
Let me tell you, there were graphic debates left and right, graphics mattered.
Online was a huge arguement, the PS2 was online before the Xbox.
Sales have always been argued, but GAMES were the biggest topic, JUST LIKE NOW.
No, sales never mattered - not now, not before. They were only used by lemmings as some sort of proof that the X360 is better than the PS3.Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(I'm curious as to why all SW rules are in favor of cows)
Blue-Sky
[QUOTE="cowgriller"]
[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(cows)
SolidTy
because they are the largest group of fanboys, bar none. they were also responsible for making the rule that any game that also appears on the pc is multiplat. then they tried to bypass the multiplat rule when claiming that games like mlb the show are ps3 exclusive despite the fact that the same exact game could be found on the ps2 and psp.
They Tried?
If they ruled the forums, they wouldn't try, it would be done.
just because they are the largest group of fanboys, doesn't mean they can't meet resistance from the combined efforts of the others.
[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]
The cow hypocrisy is indeed quite amazing. It's funny to see so many fanboys now using sales as ownage after desperately claiming that they don't matter for the past months. Some even say it's the beginning of the PS3's dominance :lol:.
Hypocrisy is nothing new or amazing. Lems and sheeps have been doing it for years.
And cows have been doing it for a lot longer. They invented it.Cows invented sales? Hypocrisy Long trail of quotes, you might wanna read before you comment.[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"] They invented it.aaronmullan
[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Cows invented sales? Hypocrisy Long trail of quotes, you might wanna read before you comment. So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"] They invented it.TheOwnerOner
So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?aaronmullanyou calling God a hypocrite? D=
[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Cows invented sales?Hypocrisy Long trail of quotes, you might wanna read before you comment. So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?aaronmullan
In the world of System Wars.
[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?Jandurinyou calling God a hypocrite? D= If he's a cow, yes! :P
[QUOTE="cowgriller"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(I'm curious as to why all SW rules are in favor of cows)
Giancar
because they are the largest group of fanboys, bar none. they were also responsible for making the rule that any game that also appears on the pc is multiplat. then they tried to bypass the multiplat rule when claiming that games like mlb the show are ps3 exclusive despite the fact that the same exact game could be found on the ps2 and psp.
so negate the existence of the best system out there? The PC...no, this is system wars, not console/companies war But multipats drive the industry right now, and the 360 has benefited and will benefit a lot for games like ME and L4D..and it's library will get stronger, but no way it cannot be counted as an exclusiveno. what i was saying was that the cows were the one's that came up with the whole "if it's on pc, it's not exclusive." in a way, that's true, but conversely, it's also false. it's true to say that if a game is on another platform, it's multiplatform. there's no denial there (excpet from cows who want to believe the show is still exclusive). but the assessment that if it's on the pc, it's no longer exclusive is also false in the sense that pc's are not made for the sole purpose of gaming. true their are hermits that design/build pc's with the intention of playing games on them, but gaming on a pc is not the pc's primary function. the original intention of pc's where to be used as powerful calculators. today, it's primary function is business and communication. gaming is a distant secondary function that not every pc owner utilizes. that is the exact opposite of console gaming. if you own a home console, the primary intent/duty of the console is to play games. it's secondary functions would be media and communications. this is why the pc is still debated to this day. not every one who owns a pc plays games on it, but they all use it for business (online shopping, research, stock trading, etc.) and communication; but everyone who owns a console uses it for gaming.
So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"] Hypocrisy Long trail of quotes, you might wanna read before you comment.TheOwnerOner
In the world of System Wars.
:| Nintendo have been in SW two gens longer than Sony, they've bound to done it before....[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Cows invented sales?Hypocrisy Long trail of quotes, you might wanna read before you comment. So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?aaronmullan
Cows were also the reason behind the Holy Roman War, World War I, and Avian Flu.
"And God said, "Let there be hypocritical cows, then light".
Also, it's spelled Hypocowsy.
This thread is amusing, at least.
So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"] Hypocrisy Long trail of quotes, you might wanna read before you comment.SolidTy
Cows were also the reason behind the Holy Roman War, World War I, and Avian Flu.
"And God said, "Let there be hypocritical cows, then light".
Also, it's spelled Hypocowsy.
This thread is amusing, at least.
Indeed. Alot of people think cows are the cause of all the fanboyism. They think lems, hermits and sheep are innocent of everything.[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?aaronmullan
In the world of System Wars.
:| Nintendo have been in SW two gens longer than Sony, they've bound to done it before.... Back in the good ole days, sales really didnt matter. Everyone was just happy to play video games.so negate the existence of the best system out there? The PC...no, this is system wars, not console/companies war But multipats drive the industry right now, and the 360 has benefited and will benefit a lot for games like ME and L4D..and it's library will get stronger, but no way it cannot be counted as an exclusive[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="cowgriller"]
because they are the largest group of fanboys, bar none. they were also responsible for making the rule that any game that also appears on the pc is multiplat. then they tried to bypass the multiplat rule when claiming that games like mlb the show are ps3 exclusive despite the fact that the same exact game could be found on the ps2 and psp.
cowgriller
no. what i was saying was that the cows were the one's that came up with the whole "if it's on pc, it's not exclusive." in a way, that's true, but conversely, it's also false. it's true to say that if a game is on another platform, it's multiplatform. there's no denial there (excpet from cows who want to believe the show is still exclusive). but the assessment that if it's on the pc, it's no longer exclusive is also false in the sense that pc's are not made for the sole purpose of gaming. true their are hermits that design/build pc's with the intention of playing games on them, but gaming on a pc is not the pc's primary function. the original intention of pc's where to be used as powerful calculators. today, it's primary function is business and communication. gaming is a distant secondary function that not every pc owner utilizes. that is the exact opposite of console gaming. if you own a home console, the primary intent/duty of the console is to play games. it's secondary functions would be media and communications. this is why the pc is still debated to this day. not every one who owns a pc plays games on it, but they all use it for business (online shopping, research, stock trading, etc.) and communication; but everyone who owns a console uses it for gaming.
errr, there are PC's built for the MAIN purpose of being a gaiming device, there are big companies that make graphics cards only for playing on PC. There are mega LAN parties across the world, WOW is a phenomenon (and I hate it btw), games like SC are practically a national sport in countries like Korea I don't get what you are trying to say, but PC gaiming is very relevant nowadays...in fact 90% of all multipats that are on ps3 and 360 are better on PC... that's why in SW we cannot relegate the PC as a second instance, when in fact it gets the better multipats and awesome exclusives and this all comes from person that has been gaiming on consoles since the nes daysBack in the good ole days, sales really didnt matter. Everyone was just happy to play video games.TheOwnerOnerOh, sales have always mattered. No sales, no games.
So cows invented hypocrisy. A thing that has been here since the beginning of time?[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"] Hypocrisy Long trail of quotes, you might wanna read before you comment.SolidTy
Cows were also the reason behind the Holy Roman War, World War I, and Avian Flu.
"And God said, "Let there be hypocritical cows, then light".
Also, it's spelled Hypocowsy.
This thread is amusing, at least.
:lol: f'n awesome.
btw, cows were not responsible for the holy roman war, WW1 or 2, the Spanish Inquisition, or the avain flu. they're incapable of doing anything really because they're all infected by mad-cow disease.
[QUOTE="cowgriller"][QUOTE="Giancar"] so negate the existence of the best system out there? The PC...no, this is system wars, not console/companies war But multipats drive the industry right now, and the 360 has benefited and will benefit a lot for games like ME and L4D..and it's library will get stronger, but no way it cannot be counted as an exclusiveGiancar
no. what i was saying was that the cows were the one's that came up with the whole "if it's on pc, it's not exclusive." in a way, that's true, but conversely, it's also false. it's true to say that if a game is on another platform, it's multiplatform. there's no denial there (excpet from cows who want to believe the show is still exclusive). but the assessment that if it's on the pc, it's no longer exclusive is also false in the sense that pc's are not made for the sole purpose of gaming. true their are hermits that design/build pc's with the intention of playing games on them, but gaming on a pc is not the pc's primary function. the original intention of pc's where to be used as powerful calculators. today, it's primary function is business and communication. gaming is a distant secondary function that not every pc owner utilizes. that is the exact opposite of console gaming. if you own a home console, the primary intent/duty of the console is to play games. it's secondary functions would be media and communications. this is why the pc is still debated to this day. not every one who owns a pc plays games on it, but they all use it for business (online shopping, research, stock trading, etc.) and communication; but everyone who owns a console uses it for gaming.
errr, there are PC's built for the MAIN purpose of being a gaiming device, there are big companies that make graphics cards only for playing on PC. There are mega LAN parties across the world, WOW is a phenomenon (and I hate it btw), games like SC are practically a national sport in countries like Korea I don't get what you are trying to say, but PC gaiming is very relevant nowadays...in fact 90% of all multipats that are on ps3 and 360 are better on PC... that's why in SW we cannot relegate the PC as a second instance, when in fact it gets the better multipats and awesome exclusives and this all comes from person that has been gaiming on consoles since the nes daysyou just missed the entire highlighted sentence.
pc's are debated because they can play games, but they're not not made for gaming (that is, it's primary function is not gaming.)
The TC has already fled his own topic it seems. I love the mass generalizations and general assumptions in this thread, quite a good laugh
errr, there are PC's built for the MAIN purpose of being a gaiming device, there are big companies that make graphics cards only for playing on PC. There are mega LAN parties across the world, WOW is a phenomenon (and I hate it btw), games like SC are practically a national sport in countries like Korea I don't get what you are trying to say, but PC gaiming is very relevant nowadays...in fact 90% of all multipats that are on ps3 and 360 are better on PC... that's why in SW we cannot relegate the PC as a second instance, when in fact it gets the better multipats and awesome exclusives and this all comes from person that has been gaiming on consoles since the nes days[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="cowgriller"]
no. what i was saying was that the cows were the one's that came up with the whole "if it's on pc, it's not exclusive." in a way, that's true, but conversely, it's also false. it's true to say that if a game is on another platform, it's multiplatform. there's no denial there (excpet from cows who want to believe the show is still exclusive). but the assessment that if it's on the pc, it's no longer exclusive is also false in the sense that pc's are not made for the sole purpose of gaming. true their are hermits that design/build pc's with the intention of playing games on them, but gaming on a pc is not the pc's primary function. the original intention of pc's where to be used as powerful calculators. today, it's primary function is business and communication. gaming is a distant secondary function that not every pc owner utilizes. that is the exact opposite of console gaming. if you own a home console, the primary intent/duty of the console is to play games. it's secondary functions would be media and communications. this is why the pc is still debated to this day. not every one who owns a pc plays games on it, but they all use it for business (online shopping, research, stock trading, etc.) and communication; but everyone who owns a console uses it for gaming.
cowgriller
you just missed the entire highlighted sentence.
pc's are debated because they can play games, but they're not not made for gaming (that is, it's primary function is not gaming.)
no, not all the PC are primary designed for gaming. Some are only designed for it, but I don't know whta's the point of being soYou are arguing semantics. There is no "primary" function for PC's. They can be used for everything from ordering your meds, talking with distant relatives, finding a wife to even creating video games. Why is it ok for PC's to be accetable for creating games but not for playing games. The differences between PC's and consoles have largely been erased this gen. In the end it just comes down to target audience and neither console has the exact same target audience anyways.pc's are debated because they can play games, but they're not not made for gaming (that is, it's primary function is not gaming.)
cowgriller
You're in system wars :| Almost everything here is for teh lulz. Most of the threads, if not all of them are trolling attempts Could expect anything else?The TC has already fled his own topic it seems. I love the mass generalizations and general assumptions in this thread, quite a good laugh
Alpha-Male22
Finally the best console is selling the way it should be, and yes some people are happy about it. Its nice not to see Grandmas toy dominating the sells market for a month. Hopefully the trend will continue.
[QUOTE="cowgriller"]
pc's are debated because they can play games, but they're not not made for gaming (that is, it's primary function is not gaming.)
You are arguing semantics. There is no "primary" function for PC's. They can be used for everything from ordering your meds, talking with distant relatives, finding a wife to even creating video games. Why is it ok for PC's to be accetable for creating games but not for playing games. The differences between PC's and consoles have largely been erased this gen. In the end it just comes down to target audience and neither console has the exact same target audience anyways. I agree with Javy03 in everything but this: I don't think that he was arguing semantics.Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(I'm curious as to why all SW rules are in favor of cows)
Blue-Sky
Last I checked, sales were never deemed inappropriate to post. NPD/Famitsu/VGCharts show the sales of every console whenever they're posted. Why is it considered to be changing the rules now that a chart is posted that is favorable to the PS3?
No one has said "sales count now" except for you and couple of other defensive anti-Sony posters. They're just posting sales. That's all.
[QUOTE="cowgriller"]
pc's are debated because they can play games, but they're not not made for gaming (that is, it's primary function is not gaming.)
You are arguing semantics. There is no "primary" function for PC's. They can be used for everything from ordering your meds, talking with distant relatives, finding a wife to even creating video games. Why is it ok for PC's to be accetable for creating games but not for playing games. The differences between PC's and consoles have largely been erased this gen. In the end it just comes down to target audience and neither console has the exact same target audience anyways. I agree with Javy03 in everything but this: I don't think that he was arguing semantics. The arguement of whether the PC counts as a System or not is semantics. In the end it does everthing a system does, it just goes by another more common name. But people that argue against the PC like to harp on the label "console".[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]
Apparently, it only matters when Playstations sell.
(I'm curious as to why all SW rules are in favor of cows)
Pariah-
Last I checked, sales were never deemed inappropriate to post. NPD/Famitsu/VGCharts show the sales of every console whenever they're posted. Why is it considered to be changing the rules now that a chart is posted that is favorable to the PS3?
No one has said "sales count now" except for you and couple of other defensive anti-Sony posters. They're just posting sales. That's all.
That's mainly because other fanboys (mainly lems) always connect what cows say to some other higher standard. Cows post some news about sales, lems and sheep call them hypocrites. Just like when cows hype a game AAA. Lems will always call those games failures because they don't sell 3+mil first day and rival Halo. It's the nature of fanboys.
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