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#1 InfinityMugen
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That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series

Best football series - Madden

Best console - Wii

Best PC game (beloved apparently by hardcore PC gamers) - The Sims

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.;)

PS: Sarcasm rooles!:P

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#2 TheCoreGamer_
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i guess that means the PS3 is the best right now since its outselling everything.
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#3 Ribnarak
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That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series

Best football series - Madden

Best console - Wii

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.

InfinityMugen

i like KZ2 more than Halo. But the multiplayer, i like halo's more.

So the best fps u could argue.

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#4 Filthybastrd
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That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series

Best football series - Madden

Best console - Wii

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.

InfinityMugen

Ok, but your principle is'nt true so your thread is pointless.

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#5 TheGrat1
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series

Best football series - Madden

Best console - Wii

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.

No offense but you also "like" paying to play online. So excuse me as I disregard whatever you say.
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#6 foxhound_fox
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I guess that makes Okami a terrible game.

Sales do not in any way correlate to quality.

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#7 Nidget
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i guess that means the PS3 is the best right now since its outselling everything.TheCoreGamer_
Yet still last :lol:
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#8 PannicAtack
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Explain 50 Cent: Bulletproof
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#9 Ribnarak
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i guess that means the PS3 is the best right now since its outselling everything.TheCoreGamer_

loll.,

yea this thread is just all OPINION. everyone likes different art, gameplay, etc.

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#11 Eternal_Sleeper
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Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

InfinityMugen

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#12 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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:lol: alrighty then

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#13 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Eternal_Sleeper

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I should have noticed that sooner.
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#14 MJPK
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Wii Sports best game :lol:.It wouldn't even be in my top 100.

The only reason it's sold so much is because it was bundled with the console.

Edit: also toyota have sold more then ferrari.Does that mean they are better?

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#16 dolph1073
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sales = popularity popularity =/= supirior
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#17 Shafftehr
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You're so right... Now I'm going upstairs to listen to my Britney Shpiers records.

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#18 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series

Best football series - Madden

Best console - Wii

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.

No offense but you also "like" paying to play online. So excuse me as I disregard whatever you say.

*sigh* you just dont get it do you?
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#19 Pices
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series

Best football series - Madden

Best console - Wii

Best PC game (beloved apparently by hardcore PC gamers) - The Sims

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.

Are you ex-GhostMLD?
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#20 lolfiretruck
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Obvious troll is obvious. I cannot believe so many people are falling for this.
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#21 dkrustyklown
Member since 2009 • 2387 Posts

Why yes, TC, I agree, the Wii is the best console of this generation. How nice of you to point that out.

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#22 furomaster_99
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]i guess that means the PS3 is the best right now since its outselling everything.Nidget
Yet still last :lol:

Second place is the first loser! :lol:

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#23 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series

Best football series - Madden

Best console - Wii

Best PC game (beloved apparently by hardcore PC gamers) - The Sims

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.

Are you ex-GhostMLD?

Who? I thought most ppl would get the nature of the thread by now. Apparently not.
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#24 ActicEdge
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Problem TC is that that is the worse logic to disprove the notion that they don't matter since no one thinks like that. They matter for a multitude of other reasons.

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#25 InfinityMugen
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Problem TC is that that is the worse logic to disprove the notion that they don't matter since no one thinks like that. They matter for a multitude of other reasons.

ActicEdge
You'd be surprised.
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#26 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Problem TC is that that is the worse logic to disprove the notion that they don't matter since no one thinks like that. They matter for a multitude of other reasons.

InfinityMugen

You'd be surprised.

No I wouldn't, I know this because I know all the people who are fakeboy trolls who make the argument and those of us who are legit.

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#27 jakehouston88
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That is the very principle which proves that:

Best FPS - Halo 3 False

Best Game of all Time - Wii Sports False

Best Sandbox Game - GTA series False

Best football series - Madden False

Best console - Wii False

Best PC game (beloved apparently by hardcore PC gamers) - The Sims False

Dont cry. Sales matter in System Wars.

InfinityMugen

Sorry, your whole argument failed.

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#28 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Problem TC is that that is the worse logic to disprove the notion that they don't matter since no one thinks like that. They matter for a multitude of other reasons.

ActicEdge

You'd be surprised.

No I wouldn't, I know this because I know all the people who are fakeboy trolls who make the argument and those of us who are legit.

Someone needs a chill pill. If I hadnt mentioned I was being sarcastic, you probably wouldve made the same response as the previous posts.
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#29 fabz_95
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That principle is definitely not true.

Wii sports the best game of all time? No.

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#30 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"] You'd be surprised.InfinityMugen

No I wouldn't, I know this because I know all the people who are fakeboy trolls who make the argument and those of us who are legit.

Someone needs a chill pill. If I hadnt mentioned I was being sarcastic, you probably wouldve made the same response as the previous posts.

Not at all lol, I wasn't calling you a fakeboy troll. I've seen you post, I know you were joking regardless of whether or not you said it. But, the idea that people such as myself say sales matter never use that point and that's the only one people think exists. Sales hold relevance for many other reasons.

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#31 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No I wouldn't, I know this because I know all the people who are fakeboy trolls who make the argument and those of us who are legit.

ActicEdge

Someone needs a chill pill. If I hadnt mentioned I was being sarcastic, you probably wouldve made the same response as the previous posts.

Not at all lol, I wasn't calling you a fakeboy troll. I've seen you post, I know you were joking regardless of whether or not you said it. But, the idea that people such as myself say sales matter never use that point and that's the only one people think exists. Sales hold relevance for many other reasons.

Then I apologize for the misunderstanding. TBH I didnt mean to attack ppl like you. Youre one of the more logical personalities on GS.
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#32 ChrisSpartan117
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50 Cent Bulletproof sold more than Resident Evil 4. There, nuff said.
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#33 Pices
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[QUOTE="fabz_95"]

That principle is definitely not true.

Wii sports the best game of all time? No.

It is...for casual gamers
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#34 Pices
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50 Cent Bulletproof sold more than Resident Evil 4. There, nuff said.ChrisSpartan117
Wrong 50 cent sold 1.59 million RE 4 ps2 sold 3 million, gc sold 1.69 million, wii sold 1.61
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#35 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="fabz_95"]

That principle is definitely not true.

Wii sports the best game of all time? No.

It is...for casual gamers

Wow, it's sad how true that statement is.
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#36 Pices
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[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"][QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="fabz_95"]

That principle is definitely not true.

Wii sports the best game of all time? No.

It is...for casual gamers

Wow, it's sad how true that statement is.

They have the right
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#37 Brainhunter
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High Sales can mean anything, and not necessarily a Superior Product. Factor these elements together, and you can wind up with high sales anyway : 1) Known IP. This mean EA Sports, Halo, or even Activision games like the Hero series. Lesser known IPs tend to face difficulties in high sales. 2) Known brand. 50 Cent Bulletproof, which sold millions of units over its lifespan, is one of the most successful games that sold a lot despite harsh criticism from hardcore gamers and reviewers alike. Games like The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, or Spiderman - Web of Shadows, can sell well to the audience due to its established brand attach rate, even if reviews are low. 3) Aggressive Marketing Campaigns. We've seen this succeed with the Halo franchise, going as far as making miniature documentaries and movie trailers to hype the game up. Airing it at Superbowl events and marketing it to the mass market would undoubtedly increase it sales. On the other hand, poor marketing for titles like ICO games, Okami, Valkyria Chronicles, or Folklore would result in mediocre sales outside of the hardcore demographic market, since no one else outside of this consumer range would even be aware of their existence. 4) Mass Market Attach Rate. This means that a title can appeal to a very large market of consumers (outside of the hardcore market), even though as a game in itself, isn't exactly the most revolutionary, the most in depth, etc. Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii, and pretty much a plethora of Wii titles fit this category. There are many other factors I can list down that I fail to mention now, but all these elements together can greatly increase sales on a product, and now we know it does not necessarily equate to a Superior Product in terms of quality.
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#38 TintedEyes
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lol People don't understand this guy is being sarcastic.
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#39 glez13
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Dude stop making these nonsense threads.

We don't care if you like paying for online gaming or prefer buying a 20gb over a 250gb HDD.

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#40 Lionheart08
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TC is being sarcastic people. Wii Sports being the "Best Game of All time" should've been the tip off. :|

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#41 93soccer
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i guess that means the PS3 is the best right now since its outselling everything.TheCoreGamer_
LOL it's outselling in japan ONLY. Everywhere else, Wii is still destroying everything while PS3 is still last.
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#42 TheCoreGamer_
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]i guess that means the PS3 is the best right now since its outselling everything.93soccer
LOL it's outselling in japan ONLY. Everywhere else, Wii is still destroying everything while PS3 is still last.

link?
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#43 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"]i guess that means the PS3 is the best right now since its outselling everything.93soccer
LOL it's outselling in japan ONLY. Everywhere else, Wii is still destroying everything while PS3 is still last.

Europe too.
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#44 CPM_basic
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So a Civic >>> Ferrari ??

I don't think so.

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#45 chapnzaba
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The problem with this topic is that people can't take a joke. I think TC wins here.
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#46 djsifer01
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Sales means nothing other than thats whats popular. Here is a good example, the best bluray player on the market dose not sell well but the worst one dose. Dose that mean the worst blu-ray player is superior? your logic is flawed. Just because it sells well has nothing to do with superior product. By that logic the Wii fit is the best game ever made. Edit: Oh, i see what you did ther TC lol.
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#47 razgriz_101
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I guess that makes Okami a terrible game.

Sales do not in any way correlate to quality.

foxhound_fox

correctamundo.I feel this way if by this theory that would make Guitar hero a better game than Rock band which to be honest is far from the truth.GH is overly difficult for the sake sometimes.I like RB's more what could be said as realistic approach.

I mean cmon i can play raining blood on bass all the way through irl but for the life of me i cant on Guitar hero 3...which is poor it was nothing like playing it imo it was just mush cept from the main riff the mosh was totally off :S

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I agree -- after all, Fast Food > 5-star restaurants.
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#49 MetroidPrimePwn
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[QUOTE="fabz_95"]

That principle is definitely not true.

Wii sports the best game of all time? No.

Pices

It is...for casual gamers

I don't know a single casual gamer (which would be 95% of my female friends) who thinks that Wii Sports is better than The Sims 2 or 3...

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#50 CaptainHarley
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i dont know why some people have such a hard time comprehending the importance of sales without corellating it with the actual quality of the product. they are both extremely important in seperate areas. think of a venn diagram with sales as one spehere and quality as another, and this adds up to a kind of overall merit in the middle (theres some other stuff too but im sure anybody whose thoughts are worth reading can both understand that and doesnt need this explained).

in short; a wise man once said "cash rules everything around me". sales are important.