Please correct me if im wrong, but as I know there is no release date for GT5. It looks like a 2010 game. Now Forza 3 will be released in October and will get the full treatment of the holiday shopping season. This will provide a very nice head start on Gt5. As for GT5, if it launches in jan-august period, it wont exactly get the holiday sales boost. If its holiday 2010 its gonna definately pass forza 3. Then theres the option for bundles. MS and Sony could easily bundle the respective games if they see fit. Point is, for the first time, A Forza game has a chance to outsell a Gran Turismo game, granted if the necessary factors play out.
GT has historically been on a platform that absolutely dominated the competition in sales. This time... not so much. Even Halo 3 only sold to about half of the world's Xbox owners. Without 40-50 million PS3s installed by the time GT5 releases, Sony won't be able to repeat GT1-4's successes.
[QUOTE="Couth_"]I think the amount GT5 sells in Europe and Japan alone will easily beat Forza3 sales worldwide. That's not indicative of quality though.Liquid_DC
this. i had high expectations for GT5 but that damage limiting to only a fraction of the cars has turned me off. AA at best now tbh :(
GT has historically been on a platform that absolutely dominated the competition in sales. This time... not so much. Even Halo 3 only sold to about half of the world's Xbox owners. Without 40-50 million PS3s installed by the time GT5 releases, Sony won't be able to repeat GT1-4's successes.
lowe0
Well GT3 is the best selling game ont he PS2 and it came out before the PS2 even sold 10 million consoles.The PS3 is already at a higher fanbase with 24 million before GT5 releases.SO it's safe to say that an install base of 40-50 million isn't necessary for the most popular Playstation game to sell over 10 million copies.Heck,GT5P alone sold 4 million copies and that was while the PS3 was barely 20 million sold.You act like people wom't buy the console just for GT5.
As for Forza selling as good as GT5? I doubt it,because Forza is not a big franchise.Just because it's releasing this holiday season does not mean anything,especially since there will be another Need for Speed this fall and most 360 owners are more interested in Left 4 Dead,Halo and MW2.
Lifetime sales? WHAT? GT5 will sell over 8-9 million (like previous versions of the game) NOT including GT5P. Forza 3 will hover around the 6 million sold mark, assuming everyone that has 2 picks up 3 and more. assuming we're talking about lifetime sales ...
honestly for how good forza is it tends to sell like crap. I don't think that forza 2 really sold a whole lot until it got bundled up, and I remember reading the original forza sold horrible (like less than 1 million).
I expect GT5 to sell better, but it doesn't look that well either. PS3 games aren't really selling, and I'd be surprised if GT5 breaks that trend. Of course the ps3 price drop may make all the difference. Of course MS will probably drop the price of the 360, and I don't see why a consumer would pick a ps3 over a cheaper 360 since almost every game looks pretty much the same.
Anyway I'm going to guess 2 million for forza 3, and 3 million for GT5 after the first 6 months of release.
One factor I believe (over a lifetime) that will help GT5 do that is "I Assume" there will not be another GT for 4-5 years..With more time in the market..One can guess it will have greater sales say over T10's history(FM4should be out in two years)…..That alone will dictate sales for FM3 by having a shorter time in the market…
Umm......I don't see that happening with the insurgance of the PS3 slim. They've recaptured the European audience so they're basically sold on GT5 out-selling Forza 3. Although we don't have a release date on it so if GT5 is moved back to '10, Forza 3 maybe just maybe hold it's own for sales.
I am just gonna point out GTA 4 and MGS4, it showed that a game doesn't have to be in the holiday season to get a great sale. I am sure the name GT carries a lot of weight! :D
Gt has always had a huge following in EU.. me and my friends or else people i know into gaming all of us had GT games since PS1 era.... In EU Football(soccer) & Racing games always sell like crazy..
However Forza series has gained a good reputation in EUand am sure Forza3 will enjoy great sales.. still though have my doubts whether it will sell close to GT5..
Forza could come out 2 weeks before Christmas and be on sale with a 20% discount and GT5 could come out dead in the middle of summer and GT5 would still sell more.
[QUOTE="Liquid_DC"][QUOTE="Couth_"]I think the amount GT5 sells in Europe and Japan alone will easily beat Forza3 sales worldwide. That's not indicative of quality though.killa4lyfe
this. i had high expectations for GT5 but that damage limiting to only a fraction of the cars has turned me off. AA at best now tbh :( I agree, that is a huge blow considering forza has full damage, and from what Ive seen, its much better too. Hopefully, what we've seen so far isnt indicative of final product. Otherwise, forza 3 will take the crown.
Not even close, especially now that Nascar is included and online. Just chalk up more sales, it may even outsell Gran Turismo 3. If gamescon was any showing of how much people care about forza in europe, then i doubt it will do well sales wise compared to GT. Plus GT has the Japanese market, and Forza doesn't. Multi-console owners only have to look at the stats sheet to see which one to get, and GT5 easily comes up with more bang for your buck.
GT has historically been on a platform that absolutely dominated the competition in sales. This time... not so much. Even Halo 3 only sold to about half of the world's Xbox owners. Without 40-50 million PS3s installed by the time GT5 releases, Sony won't be able to repeat GT1-4's successes.
lowe0
metal gear solid 4 sold as well if not better than 3 irregardless of install base. whats to say gt5 wont do the same?
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