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#1 PSP107
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http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9861122-17.html

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9858188-17.html?tag=head

well i cant comment on the sega saturn but PS1 is indeed the greastest console. The author says the PS1 is not even in his top 3. PS2 still has a shot to be PS1 though.

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#2 the_h_bomb
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PS2 is better than PS1 and So is SNES. I'd put PS2 above SNES though

Saturn was a pretty crappy failure as well although it had the odd good game

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I enjoyed the Saturn for what it was, but it was an aborted project IMO.

There are many worse consoles: Jaguar, Virtual Boy, Sega CD, etc etc

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#4 SmashBrosLegend
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You're all fools if you think the Saturn is anywhere near the bottom. True SEGA fans (see: Panzer_Zwei, me) recognize it as the company's greatest console. If you have the ability to play import Saturn games, it becomes one of the greatest systems in existence.
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#5 linkin_guy109
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saturn was pretty good...before the add ons
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#6 BreakingPoint8
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I blame Sega of America for the Saturns poor sales and reputation in North America.

It was a great console if you imported titles though.

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#7 Cristallis
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Saturn, worst console? Far from it, I'd even rank it above the Dreamcast, but that is my personal opinion. To each his own I guess. I'm just wondering if he had played the best the Saturn has to offer, Dragon Force, Radiant Silvergun, Princess Crown and many many perfect arcade ports.
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#8 TrueReligion_
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Hardly. If anything the Saturn is the best console if you had the means to play Japanese games.

It has the best fighters....ever

It has the best shooters....ever

It has the best RPGs....ever

CNET fails big time.

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#9 SpruceCaboose
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You're all fools if you think the Saturn is anywhere near the bottom. True SEGA fans (see: Panzer_Zwei, me) recognize it as the company's greatest console. If you have the ability to play import Saturn games, it becomes one of the greatest systems in existence.SmashBrosLegend

What? The Saturn is nowhere near the greatest Sega console IMO. To each his own I guess....

EDIT: Imports would explain it, as I only played NA released games on it.

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#10 k-diddy66
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sonic cd is still the best game on the staurn and one of the best games ever in my oppinion.
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#11 Unreal_393
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no and no
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Hardly. If anything the Saturn is the best console if you had the means to play Japanese games.

It has the best fighters....ever

It has the best shooters....ever

It has the best RPGs....ever

CNET fails big time.

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Even as a SEGA fan, I'd have to give the SHMUP and fighter advantage to the Neo Geo. In fact, many of the best SHMUPs and fighters on the Saturn were Neo Geo AES, MVS, or CD ports. The problem with the Neo Geo family was that 2D fighters and shooters were the ONLY games that they had.
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sonic cd is still the best game on the staurn and one of the best games ever in my oppinion.k-diddy66
Sonic CD wasn't on the Saturn. It was on the SEGA CD.
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]You're all fools if you think the Saturn is anywhere near the bottom. True SEGA fans (see: Panzer_Zwei, me) recognize it as the company's greatest console. If you have the ability to play import Saturn games, it becomes one of the greatest systems in existence.SpruceCaboose

What? The Saturn is nowhere near the greatest Sega console IMO. To each his own I guess....

EDIT: Imports would explain it, as I only played NA released games on it.

Even as far as domestic games go, you've still got NiGHTS, the Panzer Dragoon series, the Virtua Fighter series, and countless other cIassics.
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SNES is the greatest of all time.
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#16 shaggyaz
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saturn the worst console of all time?youve got to be kidding me!The saturn is one of the greatest consoles of all time IMO.If you had the means to import the saturn was an amazing system
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#17 JiveT
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The Saturn had some great games but they focused on making a 2D powerhouse. It came out when Sega was arguably at the peak of its arcade game prowess and games like VF, VF2, Daytona, Sega Rally, Virtual On, Fighting Vipers, Fighters Megamix, were great. It also had some decent baseball games. It just didn't have the greatest graphics and EA did not support it much if at all. Bug was a pretty good game too. heh heh
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#18 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]You're all fools if you think the Saturn is anywhere near the bottom. True SEGA fans (see: Panzer_Zwei, me) recognize it as the company's greatest console. If you have the ability to play import Saturn games, it becomes one of the greatest systems in existence.SmashBrosLegend

What? The Saturn is nowhere near the greatest Sega console IMO. To each his own I guess....

EDIT: Imports would explain it, as I only played NA released games on it.

Even as far as domestic games go, you've still got NiGHTS, the Panzer Dragoon series, the Virtua Fighter series, and countless other cIassics.

Dragoon yes, the others are not to my tastes, and I dispise almost all fighters.

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#19 SemiMaster
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It's a toughie, but for me so far

PS2 = SNES = 360, as my top 5 games came from those consoles.

Also, the Virtua Boy, Atari Jaguar or Sega 32x were the worst consoles of all time IMHO.

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genesis > snes
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3D0, CD-i, Atari Jaguar, Virtual Boy...

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#22 krunkfu2
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PS1 sucked BAD. PS2 only had good games late in it's life; for me at least.

SNES is defiitely a contender for the greatest console but i doubt it. From what I've played of the Saturn, which is very little, it's fun. Virtua boy is the worst major console of all time hands down.

Now that I think of it, Gameboy is prbably the best console of all time.

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#23 SmashBrosLegend
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3D0, CD-i, Atari Jaguar, Virtual Boy...

BreakingPoint8
The 3DO had some great games too (just not enough to justify its price point). Gex, Road Rash, Samurai Shodown, Return Fire, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, ect.
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I don't even want to think about Sega's history, it's just too painful. So many mistakes, disappointments and missed opportunity's.

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#25 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]

3D0, CD-i, Atari Jaguar, Virtual Boy...

SmashBrosLegend
The 3DO had some great games too (just not enough to justify its price point). Gex, Road Rash, Samurai Shodown, Return Fire, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, ect.

Most went to other consoles though.
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#26 TrueReligion_
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]

Hardly. If anything the Saturn is the best console if you had the means to play Japanese games.

It has the best fighters....ever

It has the best shooters....ever

It has the best RPGs....ever

CNET fails big time.

SmashBrosLegend

Even as a SEGA fan, I'd have to give the SHMUP and fighter advantage to the Neo Geo. In fact, many of the best SHMUPs and fighters on the Saturn were Neo Geo AES, MVS, or CD ports. The problem with the Neo Geo family was that 2D fighters and shooters were the ONLY games that they had.

Neo-Geo was great, but games are way too damn expensive for it. I still think the Saturn owned in terms of SHUMPS. Battle Garrega, DonDonPachi, Cotton, Radiant Silvergun, Sexy Parodius, etc. just seal the deal for me.

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#27 krunkfu2
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I don't even want to think about Sega's history, it's just too painful. So many mistakes, disappointments and missed opportunity's.

BreakingPoint8

you gotta remember the good times, try to not be such a pessimist

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#28 beast667
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PS2 is better than PS1 and So is SNES. I'd put PS2 above SNES though

Saturn was a pretty crappy failure as well although it had the odd good game

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ps2 above SNES? what the hell are you thinking?
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I guess they're saying it's the worst because of the way it was handled and how it was one of the larger contributors to the downfall of Sega.

Sega in general just made alot of stupid mistakes.

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#30 JiveT
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I never bought a single import for Saturn and I still got hundreds of hours of play out of it. I loooved Virtua Cop series. People talk about SOOTC but the first game to ever get a truly epic scary feel from bosses was Panzer Dragoon series especially 2 when you fight that thing that is swimming under the water and then it leaps into the air. Frigging epic.
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#31 Blackbond
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SNES being the greatest console of all time is debatable.

Saturn being the worst console of all time is a down right lie.

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#32 asl2006
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Saturn, worst console? Far from it, I'd even rank it above the Dreamcast .Cristallis

The dreamcast was the best console ever

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#33 long_dong_goo
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I'm of the belief that the best console of all time is the newest one currently sitting in my living room.

In terms of worst, I can only speak on consoles that I've owned. And though it's blasphemy around here, my worst one is what those blogs are touting as the best one. Can't explain it. Just feel that way.

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#34 karasill
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I really liked the Saturn. I remember being 10 years old and my dad getting it for me when it was first released.
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#35 the_h_bomb
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ps2 above SNES? what the hell are you thinking?beast667

PS2 had a lot of underappreciated RPGs.

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#36 SOedipus
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I wouldn't say the Saturn is the worst console. There are others that are worse in my opinion.
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sonic cd is still the best game on the staurn and one of the best games ever in my oppinion.k-diddy66

saturn was pretty good...before the add onslinkin_guy109

huh????

i see we have some die hard sega fans here

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http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9861122-17.html

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9858188-17.html?tag=head

well i cant comment on the sega saturn but PS1 is indeed the greastest console. The author says the PS1 is not even in his top 3. PS2 still has a shot to be PS1 though.

PSP107

That writer lost me when he said the Playstation wasn't a revolutionary console. Maybe if you totally ignore the fact that it ended Nintedo's domination (for a reason) and helped contribute to the death of Sega...

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#39 heretrix
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The Saturn wasn't the best and it wasn't the worst console. But it had Panzer Dragoon Saga and for that alone, it owned.Aside from that it has some decent games, but the Playstation crushed it.

The worst console would be a tossup between the Jaguar and the Atari 7800. I don't know what Cnet is thinking but they are WAY off.

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#40 heretrix
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]

http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9861122-17.html

http://www.cnet.com/8301-13506_1-9858188-17.html?tag=head

well i cant comment on the sega saturn but PS1 is indeed the greastest console. The author says the PS1 is not even in his top 3. PS2 still has a shot to be PS1 though.

Weapons_Free

That writer lost me when he said the Playstation wasn't a revolutionary console. Maybe if you totally ignore the fact that it ended Nintedo's domination (for a reason) and helped contribute to the death of Sega...

And it ushered in the true 3d era.where do they get these people? How could he not know that?
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#41 Zaxro
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If the only game on the saturn was Panzer Dragoon saga it wouldn't even be close to the bottom. The other awsome games made it even better.
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#42 JiveT
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Sega ushered in the 3D era with their arcade games Virtua Fighter and Virtua Racing. They weren't the first 3D games ever but they can definitely be seen as the bedrock from which all 3D gaming was built on in a sense.
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#43 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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SNES>>>>PS1>>>>Gamecube

That's my Top 3. Saturn is an amazing console if you can import games.

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#44 AzatiS
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Just to know...

You can call worst console ever,consoles like 3DO- Jaguar or whatever,but no Saturn.

Snes was a very nice console,but dont think that rival (genesis) was that bad.So you cant call Snes best console ever.

To me,best console till now is PSone,not only because of the so many AAAE franchises that even now selling like crazy,even if are multiplatform (Like Resident evil,Wipeout and more),not only we see really new genres (Resident evil - metal gear solid - GT and more) ,not only it had VS competition the best titles for any genre... (Nothing could compete with anything,except SM64 and ZElda).

For me PSone was the best console ever. And im active gamer since amiga. Ive played with all consoles from Nes thru this generation.Best franchises ever made (even now are the best),many many AAAE games (Tekken-RE-FF7-GT-Wipeout and a huge list with more games).

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#45 NamelessPlayer
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I blame Sega of America for the Saturns poor sales and reputation in North America.

It was a great console if you imported titles though.

BreakingPoint8
It's a shame that they totally screwed things up here in America, because it means that I get to miss out on a lot of what made the Saturn good. (Some titles, such as Panzer Dragoon Saga/Azel: Panzer Dragoon RPG, have scarce English copies, but common Japanese ones. Others, such as Radiant Silvergun, Princess Crown, a port of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night/Dracula X: Nocturne in the Moonlight, and a certain couple of RPG remakes set on a terraformed moon, didn't even leave Japan! Oh, and let's not forget Segata Sanshiro.)
[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]

3D0, CD-i, Atari Jaguar, Virtual Boy...

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The 3DO had some great games too (just not enough to justify its price point). Gex, Road Rash, Samurai Shodown, Return Fire, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, ect.

You forgot one. (Note that UQM is basically the 3DO version of SC2 backported to x86 PCs and some other platforms, with numerous enhancements and the original PC version's interface added.) I think that what killed the 3DO was the ridiculous price tag. I'm talking 700 US$ in a time long before "599 US DOLLARS"-less if you got a 3DO Blaster that could be installed in an IBM PC clone, but the PC requirement only made it all the more expensive in total. It might have had a chance if it only cost 300 or 400 US$. Oh, and I'm in the "SNES is the greatest console ever as of today" camp. There's too many classics released on that thing to list.
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#46 ghoklebutter
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saturn also had the ULTIMATE version of Earthworm Jim 2!
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#47 Blanco98
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1.PS1

2.PS2

3.SNES

4.Dreamcast

5.N64

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#48 EVOLV3
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wrong. PS2 is the greatest console of all time.
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#49 dbzfreak
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I agree with the best but not the worst. I think the Jaguar would be the worst. What a debacle.
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It's a shame that they totally screwed things up here in America, because it means that I get to miss out on a lot of what made the Saturn good. (Some titles, such as Panzer Dragoon Saga/Azel: Panzer Dragoon RPG, have scarce English copies, but common Japanese ones. Others, such as Radiant Silvergun, Princess Crown, a port of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night/Dracula X: Nocturne in the Moonlight, and a certain couple of RPG remakes set on a terraformed moon, didn't even leave Japan! Oh, and let's not forget Segata Sanshiro.) NamelessPlayer

You don't understand. they are scarce "NOW" they weren't scarce when they released. Which is not different than rare games on any other system like the PS/PS2.

If you were around on forums like GF, you probably would have seen people posting pics of their 5-6 copies of Panzer Dragoon Saga, Radiant Silvergun, Shining Force III etc.

People began to hog titles when as usual, people began to notice what they missed.

You could buy Radiant Silvergun around $50-60 bundled with 2 other games like Gunbird and DonPachi.