Scenario : MS announces the Xboy.. your portable gaming device

Using graphics that exceed the DS

- a crisp screen

- 2,5 GB HD UMD

- no gimmick like dual screens and touch screens

I bet the "hardcore" will say.. OMG DS got pwned!!!

It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolXerlaoth

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolPoppaLemming

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Reminds me of

OMG sony will release GT 4, DMC and all that great PS franchises.. NINTENDOOMED

Just what the world needs, ANOTHER ******* HANDHELD. Yeah, no...

handhelds :lol:

[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolfarnham

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Reminds me of

OMG sony will release GT 4, DMC and all that great PS franchises.. NINTENDOOMED

two different companies

i would laugh becaue it would have 1 game, halo. Sully28

Thats what I had in mind. :lol:

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolPoppaLemming

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Remember Microsoft has the Zune? The Zune is a complete failure. Microsofts track record with electronics is dismal. Not one device they have attempted to bring to market has made them any money.

Now they are going to make a handheld? Maybe they should learn how to put higher quality parts into their console first, repair their new OS, and drop the Zune.

If the Xboy comes out the first one to buy it would be M. Jackson. :(

I don't want to that happen.

I almost forgot. There is an going to be news on Halo Ds soon and Matt at IGN Nintendo said he played it.

[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolSubcritical

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Remember Microsoft has the Zune? The Zune is a complete failure. Microsofts track record with electronics is dismal. Not one device they have attempted to bring to market has made them any money.

Now they are going to make a handheld? Maybe they should learn how to put higher quality parts into their console first, repair their new OS, and drop the Zune.

Zune is fine

360 is fine

I'm using vista right now with absolutely no problem. I mean did Bill Gates steal your lunch money? :lol: A microsoft handheld incorporated with zune qualities would be fantastic.

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolPoppaLemming

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Doesn't Zune have like a 5% market share? lol

If it had Halo 1 online with up to 16 ppl, i would buy it within 3 secondsdesktopdefender

I wouldn't, because the whole idea of a handheld system takes the gamer away from constant internet access.

[QUOTE="Subcritical"][QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolPoppaLemming

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Remember Microsoft has the Zune? The Zune is a complete failure. Microsofts track record with electronics is dismal. Not one device they have attempted to bring to market has made them any money.

Now they are going to make a handheld? Maybe they should learn how to put higher quality parts into their console first, repair their new OS, and drop the Zune.

Zune is fine

360 is fine

I'm using vista right now with absolutely no problem. I mean did Bill Gates steal your lunch money? :lol: A microsoft handheld incorporated with zune qualities would be fantastic.

According to you the Zune is fine. According to a professional reviewer, the Zune is left in the dust.

http://reviews.digitaltrends.com/review4144_main20728_page4.html

The 360 is fine? How do you explain the failure rate of its hardware?

Vista is fine? They why is most of corporate America avoiding it? Why are gamers upset that its optimizations, or lack of, hinder game performance?

IMHO Microsoft has produced a plethora of products. All of them on their own merit would faulter, fail and disappear from the marketplace. The only reason why their electronicsstill existis because of Microsoft's monopoly in the OS business. They use that monopoly and its associated revenue generation to support their sub-par products.

[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"][QUOTE="Subcritical"][QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolSubcritical

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Remember Microsoft has the Zune? The Zune is a complete failure. Microsofts track record with electronics is dismal. Not one device they have attempted to bring to market has made them any money.

Now they are going to make a handheld? Maybe they should learn how to put higher quality parts into their console first, repair their new OS, and drop the Zune.

Zune is fine

360 is fine

I'm using vista right now with absolutely no problem. I mean did Bill Gates steal your lunch money? :lol: A microsoft handheld incorporated with zune qualities would be fantastic.

According to you the Zune is fine. According to a professional reviewer, the Zune is left in the dust.

http://reviews.digitaltrends.com/review4144_main20728_page4.html

The 360 is fine? How do you explain the failure rate of its hardware?

Vista is fine? They why is most of corporate America avoiding it? Why are gamers upset that its optimizations, or lack of, hinder game performance?

IMHO Microsoft has produced a plethora of products. All of them on their own merit would faulter, fail and disappear from the marketplace. The only reason why their electronicsstill existis because of Microsoft's monopoly in the OS business. They use that monopoly and its associated revenue generation to support their sub-par products.

Microsoft is the richest company in the states

Bill Gates = richest man in the US, 2nd in the world

I'm happy with vista, i'll be getting a zune, i'm happy with my 360... their job is to satisfy the consumer and they did just that with me. :D

[QUOTE="desktopdefender"]If it had Halo 1 online with up to 16 ppl, i would buy it within 3 secondsXerlaoth

I wouldn't, because the whole idea of a handheld system takes the gamer away from constant internet access.

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]

[QUOTE="desktopdefender"]If it had Halo 1 online with up to 16 ppl, i would buy it within 3 secondsdesktopdefender

I wouldn't, because the whole idea of a handheld system takes the gamer away from constant internet access.

The 360 is fine? How do you explain the failure rate of its hardware?

Vista is fine? They why is most of corporate America avoiding it? Why are gamers upset that its optimizations, or lack of, hinder game performance?

IMHO Microsoft has produced a plethora of products. All of them on their own merit would faulter, fail and disappear from the marketplace. The only reason why their electronicsstill existis because of Microsoft's monopoly in the OS business. They use that monopoly and its associated revenue generation to support their sub-par products.

Subcritical

Hardware failure rate is not a concern anymore. Everyone has got a 3 year warranty for the 3 red lights.

Vista is a diamond in the rough. It's just like Windows 98 (I think that's the one) which people slowly moved over to. Vista has DirectX 10 as well, so it's only a matter of time until Vista is embraced by the video game community.

Using graphics that exceed the DS

- a crisp screen

- 2,5 GB HD UMD hell no! ms will never use umd's. also, hd on a 4" lcd is a waste because the screen is too small to see the hd details. the screen will probably be 720 x 480 which is the standard for widescreen dvd's.

- no gimmick like dual screens and touch screens

I bet the "hardcore" will say.. OMG DS got pwned!!!

farnham

if ms announces a portable xbox (x-go?), they would make it more powerful than the original xbox (meaning more powerful than the wii.) it will probably have a clamshell design with one lcd screen between 4" - 7" in size. it will probably have a force feedback system (rumble), rely on a built-in HDD, have the standard xbox buttons, 2 analog sticks that hopefully don't break like the one on the psp (believe me, i know from experience), have the standard l and r bumpers but bring back the black and white buttons because it will be hard to have two sets of bumpers/triggers on the sides of the unit, built-in wifi, and an os that's a hybrid of the xbox 360 os and zune os. it will need some sort of variant of the xbox live/zune marketplace in order to download games, videos, and music because ms will probably use digital distribution instead of a physical medium of starge (other than the HDD).

[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolXerlaoth

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Doesn't Zune have like a 5% market share? lol

Hmmm, let's think... How well would a complete rip-off of the PSP sell... plus consider Microsoft is trying to turn a profit in the games division in 08.

This is just stupid to think about.

[QUOTE="Subcritical"]The 360 is fine? How do you explain the failure rate of its hardware?

Vista is fine? They why is most of corporate America avoiding it? Why are gamers upset that its optimizations, or lack of, hinder game performance?

IMHO Microsoft has produced a plethora of products. All of them on their own merit would faulter, fail and disappear from the marketplace. The only reason why their electronicsstill existis because of Microsoft's monopoly in the OS business. They use that monopoly and its associated revenue generation to support their sub-par products.

FrozenLiquid

Hardware failure rate is not a concern anymore. Everyone has got a 3 year warranty for the 3 red lights. That's a heck of a relief.

Vista is a diamond in the rough. It's just like Windows 98 (I think that's the one) which people slowly moved over to. Vista has DirectX 10 as well, so it's only a matter of time until Vista is embraced by the video game community. Can you explain to me why you have to have Vista to utilize DX10? Oh yeah, because Microsoft said so......

[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolSubcritical

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Remember Microsoft has the Zune? The Zune is a complete failure. Microsofts track record with electronics is dismal. Not one device they have attempted to bring to market has made them any money.

Now they are going to make a handheld? Maybe they should learn how to put higher quality parts into their console first, repair their new OS, and drop the Zune.

the zune is not a failure. it is the second best selling mp3 player on the market, right behind the ipod. ms has 11% of the market which is a lot considering apple hold 62% and the rest is distributed between sony, creatvie, iriver, etc. ms sold over 1 million zunes in since it's launch in november 2006, that's 1 million zune's in 8 months! that's more than sony ever sold in the same time period. ms's market share with the zune continues to rise. but, according to your "logic", that would mean that apple is a failure in the pc market, and sony and nintendo are failures in the console market because ms owns the most market share at the moment. for a new mp3 player and a company that is as hated as ms is, having the second best selling mp3 player that continues to increase market share is an accomplishment, not a failure.

link

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but, according to your "logic", that would mean that apple is a failure in the pc market.

latinrage69

I don't think anyone has contested that yet.

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolPoppaLemming

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

but, according to your "logic", that would mean that apple is a failure in the pc market.

Hewkii

I don't think anyone has contested that yet.

i don't think there's enough proof to the contrary.

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolPoppaLemming

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Up against the AppleiPod and the Creative Zen audio players, which are the two largest audio player companies on the market, the Zune is an abysmal failure, it has yet to penetrate the market and considering how crap Windows is, why would people be gullible enough to buy an mp3 player made by them?

Well consdering Japan makes most of the software sales and a respectable hardware sales in the portable market, and Microsoft can't advertise for anything nor get appealing games for the country, I'd say flop.

Especially with what the DS has done to the "Nintendo killer" PSP. I mean the PSP launched when SONY was hands down #1, imagine what the Xboy will do if Microsoft's hands down #2.

Fun Fact Square-Enix is talking about launching a handheld. :)

[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]It'll pwn just like the PSP. lolDSgamer64

Remember, Microsoft not only has the Zune, but a damn near Monopoly on computing. If they intergrated those two things into a gaming device... it could be crazy

Plus Halo on there also. Microsoft has more potential for handheld gaming than sony

Up against the AppleiPod and the Creative Zen audio players, which are the two largest audio player companies on the market, the Zune is an abysmal failure, it has yet to penetrate the market and considering how crap Windows is, why would people be gullible enough to buy an mp3 player made by them?

did you completely miss my post and this link? the zune has 11% market share making it the second best selling hdd based mp3 player on the market (first is obviously the ipod.) seems like you deliberately bypassed facts to bash an mp3 player and company with no facts to back up any of your statements. you fail.

did you competely miss my post and this link? the zune has 11% market share making it the second best selling hdd based mp3 player on the market (first is obviously the ipod.) seems like you delibrately bypassed facts to bash an mp3 player and company with no facts to back up any of your statements. you fail.

latinrage69

Is this a joke? 11% is hardly anything in a Market. The PSP has triple that amount in the handheld market and has the lowest software sales, however with respectable hardware. The fact that they went in headstrong in a market with only one competitor and got that far is proof enough that they are anything but ready for the task.

[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

did you competely miss my post and this link? the zune has 11% market share making it the second best selling hdd based mp3 player on the market (first is obviously the ipod.) seems like you delibrately bypassed facts to bash an mp3 player and company with no facts to back up any of your statements. you fail.

Dencore

Is this a joke? 11% is hardly anything in a Market. The PSP has triple that amount in the handheld market and has the lowest software sales, however with respectable hardware. The fact that they went in headstrong in a market with only one competitor and got that far is proof enough that they are anything but ready for the task.

you sir are horribly misinformed. the handheld gaming market is made up of two companies, sony and nintendo. the mp3 market is made up of several companies such as apple, microsoft, sony, creative, iriver, samsung, toshiba, and several oem and cheap chinese players. the fact that ms commands 11% of a market that they've been in for only 8 months is huge. they are number two in the mp3 market where as sony has been in the market for years, longer than apple actually, and they are at the bottom of the barrel. hell, diamond, the original mp3 company, the founder of portable mp3 players is no longer around and they introduced the mp3 during the turn of the millenium. you fail.

No one can compete with Nintendo in the handheld market. Absolutely no one. The rumours of Halo making its way to the DS seem plausible as it would seem MS is being smart and just ceding defeat before even attempting to take on Nintendo.

Hell, Nintendo has pretty much already cemented its domination of the handheld market and is only expanding... take this for example: http://gonintendo.com/?p=19662foxhound_fox

Umm no YOU fail. Microsoft was going after Apple, and only getting 11% of the market when Apple has over 4-5 times more then that is just utter pathetic. And think about it, it has MORE features, EASY to USE, and better everything. Now Microsoft is going to go against systems with high third party support and biggest appeal to the main region of the platforms market?

I mean idk about you but 1 million sold isn't really all that impressive, especially if your going after a market where you need at leasts 17 to make some kind of profit.

I'm sorry but Microsoft would get chewed up and spit out. So YOU FAIL.

Umm no YOU fail. Microsoft was going after Apple, and only getting 11% of the market when Apple has over 4-5 times more then that is just utter pathetic. And think about it, it has MORE features, EASY to USE, and better everything. Now Microsoft is going to go against systems with high third party support and biggest appeal to the main region of the platforms market?

I mean idk about you but 1 million sold isn't really all that impressive, especially if your going after a market where you need at leasts 17 to make some kind of profit.

I'm sorry but Microsoft would get chewed up and spit out. So YOU FAIL.

Dencore

you so clearly are misinformed. ms went into the mp3 market aiming to take down sony and the competition. they took out the competition and they continue to gain momentum and market share. the ipod does not have better features than the zune. they are about the same with the zune offering a slightly bigger screen. 1 million units is impressive for a company that never made an mp3 player EVER and have only been in the market for 8 months. sony has been in the mp3 market for years and they have nowhere near the amount of market share as ms. ms will not quit until they dominate. you should know that. everyone knows that. you are the biggest failure in this thread, just admit it and move on.

btw, keep in mind that ms sold 1 million zunes in america only because they have yet to launch it in europe and asia.

to get back on topic, this thread is about if ms were to announce a portable gaming console, not a portable mp3 player. hopefully they do announce an xbox mobile or xbox mini because i would love to have one. plus the head of XNA, j Allard, is running the zune department meaning he could be working on a portable xbox.

Umm no YOU fail. Microsoft was going after Apple, and only getting 11% of the market when Apple has over 4-5 times more then that is just utter pathetic. And think about it, it has MORE features, EASY to USE, and better everything. Now Microsoft is going to go against systems with high third party support and biggest appeal to the main region of the platforms market?

I mean idk about you but 1 million sold isn't really all that impressive, especially if your going after a market where you need at leasts 17 to make some kind of profit.

I'm sorry but Microsoft would get chewed up and spit out. So YOU FAIL.

Dencore

Apple seriously owns like 75% of the market for mp3 players, Creative is the second largest, the Zune is tied for 3rd with Samsung and Sony most likely. I highly doubt that MS has an 11% market share when almost everyone I see with an mp3 player either owns an iPod, Creative or a smaller flash based mp3 player like a Samsung, I have never seen a Zune in stores or in the hands of people who listen to music.

[QUOTE="Dencore"]

Umm no YOU fail. Microsoft was going after Apple, and only getting 11% of the market when Apple has over 4-5 times more then that is just utter pathetic. And think about it, it has MORE features, EASY to USE, and better everything. Now Microsoft is going to go against systems with high third party support and biggest appeal to the main region of the platforms market?

I mean idk about you but 1 million sold isn't really all that impressive, especially if your going after a market where you need at leasts 17 to make some kind of profit.

I'm sorry but Microsoft would get chewed up and spit out. So YOU FAIL.

DSgamer64

Apple seriously owns like 75% of the market for mp3 players, Creative is the second largest, the Zune is tied for 3rd with Samsung and Sony most likely. I highly doubt that MS has an 11% market share when almost everyone I see with an mp3 player either owns an iPod, Creative or a smaller flash based mp3 player like a Samsung, I have never seen a Zune in stores or in the hands of people who listen to music.

the zune owns 11% of the HDD based mp3 players, not the flash based. this makes them the second best-selling hdd based mp3 player (amazingly it's only sold in the us now, europe will get it in the fall, most likely the zune 2.0 and the flash based zunes.)