Scorpio, Digital Foundry & Sony fails. A tail of consoles.

Ok let's start from the beginning.

Playstation 1, without doubt destroyed the competition with better hardware, SEGA went out with the Saturn with what would be the equivalent to the PS3 except 3 times worse due to not having the tools required to code for such hardware, so in the end every port looked horrendous vs the PS1 release.

N64 whilst having better visuals had bad framerates and was limited by cart space, definitely a clear win for PS1.

Dreamcast arrives on the scene and blows everything out of the water in 1999 , it receives a plethora of quality titles and some ports from Playstation with highly upgraded graphics and framerates (most notable being the Resident Evil 2 port.. 60FPS and 480P VGA goodness).

Playstation 2 is on the horizon and Sony have built a huge cult following through what is a talented and awesome machine, the Playstation 1.

Dreamcast is struggling with sales, and the PS2 would be the console to cement it's demise.

PS2 is hyped beyond belief supporting DVD playback, incredible graphics and some way way overblown specs.

Playstation 2 is a major success relying on the hearts of fans and the sheer amount of marketing muscle.

Microsoft want to dabble in the console market, they hit the road with a raw power approach and market the XBOX as the next coming of gaming experiences in the living room which performance wise it delivers.

Financially crippled and due to the fierce competition from Sony, Microsoft struggle internally hemorrhaging money due to the sheer cost to produce such powerful machines and sell them at competitive prices.

Microsoft would rely on their MASSIVE amount of money power and the XBOX would turn out to be a success and a new entry to the console market.

Microsoft then quickly move all development to the XBOX 360 and stop OG XBOX development and sales in 2006 with the release of the 360.

A sleek looking design, powerful, well built and a delight to code for, the 360 is the Playstation 2 of the gen prior and the XBOX together, it combines easy to code for hardware with powerful enough hardware to stand above in multiplatform titles much liek the XBOX before it.

Sony rely on marketing hype and their large fan base to bring what would be the Playstation 3 at a whopping 700 USD.

You would think Sony had gone mad.. and yeah they literally did, a rushed hardware design with a thrown in Nvidia GPU, it is hardware wise a disaster to code for and the GPU is inferior to that of the XBOX 360, however does have a rather powerful CPU, but in such a way would take many years to truly get anything out of it to even match the 360 in terms of overall presentation, we would see such titles arrive in it's later years such as The Last Of Us.

In the end the PS3 and 360 ended out rather even, however the 360 has the advantage of having the superior ports of that generation much like OG XBOX before it.

Now PS4 & XB1 are basically the same hardware, XB1 has slightly slower hardware, they are underpowered on purpose to rake in as much cash as possible, and both companies now feed off of marketing hype and their huge fan base.

What we have here however it two great machines in terms of coding ability, basically akin to the original PS1.. slap in some code and you have almost every bit of the consoles performance on tap.

Now let's get to now..

Scorpio.

Microsoft are allowing Digital Foundry to show the machine off, let me just put this into words and say this as slowly as i can to make you understand, this console is going to have some real muscle behind it if MS are allowing DF to do this.

I'm a fan of all machines.. it's going to be exciting for those who are interested.

LOL

Everytime I am absolutely shocked to hear someone who is honestly utterly astounded that the Xbox One is bombing in sales just a badly as the first Xbox marketplace failure I am reminded that there actually are people out there who really are that delusional.

Sales are not always everything, you can see what sells, PS4 was hardware wise a better machine than XB1, MS are cashing in on this by boasting a much faster machine than the PS4 Pro.

It's weak sauce to be a fanboy of any system because both companies do not give a crap about their fanbase so long as no complaints are thrown their way, it's a constant fight between two giants in the gaming market.

Who's alt is this?

I'm not an alt i see things how they are.

@hhex4: Microsoft walked into the enemies camp and said.....

But if you were an alt, who's alt would you be!?

The thing will be a beast of a console for sure. Why they're unveiling it now and not at e3, no clue. Maybe they're just going to talk about the parts inside of it instead of showing the actual machine.

Wait wait wait, did you call the 360 well built? lol

As for the rest, yeah it's possible, would be a bit stupid though, all talk no go.

Scorpio will be a 'beast' in the exact same way the Dreamcast was a 'beast'.

Hello dynamitecop.

@hhex4 said:

@Chutebox said:

@hhex4 said:

@Zero_epyon said:

Who's alt is this?

I'm not an alt i see things how they are.

But if you were an alt, who's alt would you be!?

The thing will be a beast of a console for sure. Why they're unveiling it now and not at e3, no clue. Maybe they're just going to talk about the parts inside of it instead of showing the actual machine.

As for the rest, yeah it's possible, would be a bit stupid though, all talk no go.

Ok I know who's alt this is...

Please entertain. I am myself i have not been registered here before.

@Zero_epyon: is it nyadc?

I'll just say this. He's being really transparent right now.

Tin foil over this? i expected open minds, got the opposite.

The best part is when he make sure to claim the xbox 360 had the superior ports,but when its time to claim the same about the PS4 and xbox one he chokes and claim both are close power wise and never mention how the PS4 has kick the xbox one by a bigger margin than the xbox 360 beat the PS3 in most games.

So from 640p to 720p there was a huge gap last gen but from 720p to 1080p and 720p to 900p and 900p to 1080p there the difference is small apparently..lol

I wonder why Dynamitecop is making so much propaganda from this alt accounts instead on jumping into his normal one..lol

Sure buddy. Carry on...

? He was permanently banned on his normal account.

Your bias is deluding what the truth is.

The XBOX one is slightly slower.. it has been the entire time.

The difference between the XB1 and PS4 is not as big as the one between PS2 / XBOX OG or PS3 / 360, PS3 began to shine later in it's life cycle.. and i made sure it was noted they ended out pretty evenly.

It's your own bias lol.

? Chill nyadc, you don't wanna get banned again.

Why are people assuming i am someone else? are they really this insecure over consoles?

Because they want to distract people from the ass beating they are taking game wise,MS is very clever they are trying to make hype and create topics that don't go the xbox suck or doesn't have games.

The PS4 has receive like 8 or 9 games not on xbox in this few months,including some very high rated games,and is killing them.

Horizon looks awesome and may even make me buy a base PS4, back on topic.. Scorpio looks like it is going to be very powerful, i don't need more of your insecure ramblings projected thank you.

Damn he was ban on B4X,Nyadc,and Dynamite cop..lol

And people try to tell me that posters here will not go through hoops to make an alt account..lol

You don't get it from 720p to 640p which was the usual gap between PS3 and 360,there is way smaller gap than between 1080p vs 720p,1080p vs 900p,and 900p vs 720p.

In fact any game was 720p on xbox one and 1080p on PS4 was showing actually a 100% gap in pixels,while the gap between 720p and 640p is a few pixel.

The fact that you claim that the gap between the PS4 and xbox one is smaller than the gap between the xbox 360 and PS3 says it all,in fact the PS3 was more powerful than the 360 and was ease of use what really keep the xbox ahead,contrary to the xbox one which is weaker and nothing can change that.

Maybe you should change the argument dynamitecop.

All that just for the announcement of the announcement:/

You clearly have not played on all of these systems, visual quality is not just a resolution game, you always sway it with words to suit your own biased argument.

Games on 360 for the first 2-3 years were graphically superior because devs were getting to grips with PS3's hardware, regardless of resolution, assets and effects, shaders etc impact visuals far more than resolution does.

Other than a small loss in clarity XB1 and PS4 are not noticeably different in actual visual quality.

Look at PS2 vs OG XBOX, both 480P images.

Where is the visual difference akin to the PS3 / 360 or PS2 / XBOX OG?

@hhex4: Whatever point you're trying to make with those shitty offscreen pics is completely lost here.

Comprehension helps.

Nya and his ugly ass green room with load of Microsoft propaganda in it. Ewww.

You're an idiot, those blurry pics aren't even the same game. One is DOA2 Hardcore on PS2 and the other is DOA 2 Ultimate, a remastered version of the original DOA2 released years later on Xbox.

Last time we checked, DOA2 on XBOX uses the DOA 3 engine which is not able to even run on PS2 hardware, which is why the point is used, you should perhaps read before posting just to side with your favored console of choice.

You're full of shit lol. If you're gonna do image quality comparison use different versions of the same game and not blurry cellphone offscreen pics. You suck at this.

Nice retort, using brains i see requires energy.

Read my edited post numbskull. You fail at doing comparisons.

Dreamcast's problem was on top of Saturn and 32X/MegaCD mistakes.

http://gonintendo.com/stories/245737-wii-u-manages-to-outsell-dreamcast-install-base

Dreamcast's install base was about 10.6 million units which is worst than Wii U and original Xbox.

Scorpio is not going to matter that much without the software to back it up. It's a more powerful xbox one, not a new console so, like the ps4 pro, most people that already own one isn't going to run to get one and a lot of people will prefer getting a xbox one s since it's cheaper. I think it's going to be no different than what's going on with the ps4 and ps4 pro. Power isn't everything.

Solid point, will have to see where they go with this, personally i hope they take the PS4 approach, 60FPS in games, optional graphical settings (resolutions)

PS4 is the worst enemy for PS4 Pro since PS4 already reaching 1080p resolution for the majority of it's games while PS4 Pro is too weak for proper 4K gaming.

Unlike PS4, XBO has a need to reach sustain 1080p hence there's a significant market segment created for Scorpio and it's powerful enough to run any console game with XBO at 900p and PS4 at 1080p profiles at 4K with high graphics settings (like R9-390X).

Both XBO S and Scorpio doubles as 4K blu-ray player replacement for HD blu-ray players.

Scorpio's APU 362 mm^2 size was engineered to be similar in size as XBO's 363 mm^2 APU, hence similar BOM cost.

The problem is hiding on PS3 early development doesn't help you case,as the point here is simple the xbox 360 was weaker and only had an advantage because it was easier to code and cheaper to get to a point vs the PS3.

The gap in pixel was mostly the difference between both platforms,and the PS4 doesn't just have resolution over the xbox one,many games run faster and have higher resolution as well and some have higher assets as well as higher resolution is not just resolution dude.

There isn't a small loss in clarity when a game drops almost to 720p from 1080p.

My argument wasn't about the PS2 and xbox so you hiding on xbox vs PS2 does nothing for your pathetic argument since what i question was you hypocrisy pointing 360 superior version vs totally ignoring the PS4 vs xbox one.

Shsssss play alone with hes crap..hahahahaaa

Can you believe he claimed the PS2 could not do 480p..hahahahahaa

Yes it would ran on PS2 with reduced visual it didn't run because the game was exclusive dude.

So i'm now hiding on PS3 and XBOX 360, and PS2 and XBOX, it's amazing how well crafted your responses are, it denotes the imbecilic person behind the screen.

Do whatever it takes to project insecurity, as i mentioned to you previously, i'm not stuck to one platform, i am not deluded about how superior a system is over the other, i see it how it really is.

I know you want to tell the world how amazing Sony is and good for you, but it does not belong in a non subjective thread.

This thread is attempting to make you Cows see reality from a person who is not biased.

Sure dynamitecop you are doing a great job...lol

I'm Rekonmeister, the person who was a hermit who had no side with any machine last time.

It must be hard living at the computer screen 24/7

Sup Dynamitecop

https://www.gamespot.com/profile/rekonmeister/

NO that was one of your alts..lol

Can't play tech specs.

Which was an alt of AMD655 who was the original person.

@hhex4: Your thread is a failure just like you and the Xbone. Only you knows the point you're trying to make. If you're gonna argue about image quality use direct feed screens from the same game instead of your cellphone pics. What kind of moron are you that you don't understand your point is falling flat with those shitty screens?

To you it is because you like to downplay truth to instigate, for everyone else with a mind, it's clear as day.