Seems Horizon: Zero Dawn has to Bow Out

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#1 freedomfreak
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This doesn't have anything to do with the latest Zelda game, which is getting high reviews because Nintendo is paying the likes of Gamespot and such to push high scores. Amiibo money is paying off.

But no, this is about Horizon's Bow. The bow. Aloy's bow. Why is it so shit? Why? I thought we mastered it?

Crysis 3
Tomb Raider
The Last of Us
Far Cry

Anything else? Regardless, you have 4 titles that did bows, and anything bow, very well. So, why does Horizon fall so short? There's no pull, no push back, no reprimands of holding the bow strung too long. It's deathmatch on coke, and nobody seems to bother.

I like the game. It's like Rise of the Tomb Raider meets Mass Effect's weird animations, which is great. But the bow, which you have to use due to hunting from going child-to-Ashley Burch in about a scene cut. Cutscene. Really fast.

But yeah, it's a cool game, but leave it to the Dutch to mess up the hunting (BOW) aspect. Potjandorie.

I don't know if the Dutch use that word.

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#2 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Zelda > all those games on your list

Gameplay > Graphics

Zelda = pure gameplay go anywhere fight anywhere sick of walking simulators and painted backgrounds

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#3 ConanTheStoner
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No bow, no buy.

I made that up by myself.

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#4 FLOPPAGE_50
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You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

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#5  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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Thief (OG series) did bow like whoah

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#6 Bread_or_Decide
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

This conspiracy theory for all critics really has to die. No one would waste money buying off critics whose opinions mean very little to average people.

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#7 ConanTheStoner
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Nintendo definitely paid all critics, which is why they had to skimp on blast processing with the Switch.

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#8 bmanva
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What's wrong with the bows in Horizon? I didn't really have any issue with it in my play through.

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#9 xantufrog  Moderator
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@ConanTheStoner: THAT explains how 1-2 Switch pulled in a 6/10. Was wondering how it got so close to 11

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#10 m_machine024
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Didn't play it yet but apparently bows feel like guns/snipers in that game.

Also the melee combat looks weird.

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#12 VFighter
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The bow in Crysis 3 was ass, just like the rest of the game.

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#13 DaVillain  Moderator
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@bmanva said:

What's wrong with the bows in Horizon? I didn't really have any issue with it in my play through.

Nether have I. The Bow is a lot of fun to use and I'm still using the games starter Bow before I even go to the Merchant to buy better Bows.

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#14 speedfog
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Zelda is better

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#15 Phazevariance
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This thread lost credibility the instant TC claimed Ninty paid GS for BoTW score. Man, I can't even open my eyes in this thread, it's so damn salty.

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#16  Edited By CrashNBurn281
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Sony is so gracious giving us a game like Horizon. People are having meltdowns about its success.

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#17 bmanva
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@davillain- said:
@bmanva said:

What's wrong with the bows in Horizon? I didn't really have any issue with it in my play through.

Nether have I. The Bow is a lot of fun to use and I'm still using the games starter Bow before I even go to the Merchant to buy better Bows.

I got the slightly better bow and stealth armor from the preorder bonus pack.

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#18 Heil68
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I like the Bow in TombRaider. Will judge horizon next week.

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#19 R4gn4r0k
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Techlands Dying Light and The Following had a very nice bow and crossbow.

A bow is such an essential tool for if you want to sneak by undetected, so it's good to see a lot of games include this weapon.

@freedomfreak: I think the dutch use the word: Drommels !!!! ;)

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#20 22Toothpicks
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ITT: people that are more dense (denser? That doesnt seem right lol) than I am. And that is really saying something.

Anyway. Ive read a few reviews in which similar complaints were levied about the bow. Its silly to even use primitive weapons if they arent going to have a physics model that is consistent with the aesthetics. Its just a paint job at that point and totally neuters the unique qualities of the weapons.

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#21 jdc6305
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I know right? how could a game like Zelda ever possibly be better then Horizon? End sarcasm as a PS4 owner all PS4 games are on hold until I finish playing Zelda. I don't think the PS4 has a single game out that can compete with how good Zelda is going to be.

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#22 Pedro
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@jdc6305 said:

I know right? how could a game like Zelda ever possibly be better then Horizon? End sarcasm as a PS4 owner all PS4 games are on hold until I finish playing Zelda. I don't think the PS4 has a single game out that can compete with how good Zelda is going to be.

Well that is just a silly statement.

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#23 FireEmblem_Man
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@crashnburn281: Horizon is yesterdays news, its all about Zelda

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#24 Eikichi-Onizuka
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I wonder how much Nintendo paid IGN to give Zelda a 10, but the Switch a 6.7.

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#25 Sgt_Crow
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@Eikichi-Onizuka: I wonder how much they'd give your poor trolling skills.

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#27 hrt_rulz01
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

LOL, that's an understatement.

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#28 Eikichi-Onizuka
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@Sgt_Crow said:

@Eikichi-Onizuka: I wonder how much they'd give your poor trolling skills.

Why am I a troll?

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#29  Edited By PinchySkree
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Most of it was covered here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tViQ4xTSaJo

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#30 lundy86_4  Online
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People taking TC seriously about Ninty in this thread is hilarious.

Yeah, the human/bow combat is definitely not this game's strong suit. It's great for the most part, but I feel the hit-detection with humans can be shat on occasion, but with machines it's seriously on point.

Still, all-in-all, game is dope and i'm only 10 or so hours in. Just got to Meridian.

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#31 princeofshapeir
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trading in nioh and horizon and putting the money towards a switch and zelda seems like a good idea

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

yes i do, no yes i know, why would they not? all those publications receive advertising money from them, so yes they are, and yes everyone know that policy "this game is important for us" "make sure you make a well thought review" "lets discuss advertisings next week after the review"

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#33 MonsieurX
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@leandrro said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

yes i do, no yes i know, why would they not? all those publications receive advertising money from them, so yes they are, and yes everyone know that policy "this game is important for us" "make sure you make a well thought review" "lets discuss advertisings next week after the review"

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@MonsieurX said:
@leandrro said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

yes i do, no yes i know, why would they not? all those publications receive advertising money from them, so yes they are, and yes everyone know that policy "this game is important for us" "make sure you make a well thought review" "lets discuss advertisings next week after the review"

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#35 KHAndAnime
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@MonsieurX said:
@leandrro said:

yes i do, no yes i know, why would they not? all those publications receive advertising money from them, so yes they are, and yes everyone know that policy "this game is important for us" "make sure you make a well thought review" "lets discuss advertisings next week after the review"

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Yes, nothing more tin-foil hatty than journalists relying on advertisers for a living.

What will those tin-foil hatters come up with next?

People breathe air?!

McDonalds gets paid by....customers?!

Some people....don't tip in the restaurant industry?!

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Teh conspiracy!

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#36 Livecommander
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@ProtossRushX: zelda has a good story and graphics aswell tho.

It would haved scored a 9 or even 8 if it didnt have either.

But you can keep under minding the fact that both indirectly are apart of gameplay.

9 aint far from a 10 but of course the exaggeration will commence.

Nothing against zelda i want it , it just doesn't make the switch a necessity to me. If i get the extra bread yea

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#37 FLOPPAGE_50
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@crashnburn281: only people in this thread having meltdowns are cows.

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#38 Fairmonkey
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Horizon is good but Zelda will probably be better

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#39 X_CAPCOM_X
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

I think it's funny that you took the bait.

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#40 FLOPPAGE_50
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

You really think Nintendo is paying gamespot (and 56 other publications that gave it a 9+)

Man, cows are so Insecure.

I think it's funny that you took the bait.

I think cow insecurity is funnier.

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#41 mems_1224
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The bow is poop but at least it's not the melee combat. The melee combat suuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

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#42 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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@ConanTheStoner: That dumb "paid off" shit has always been funny to me. More in it for a journalist or editor to break the story of Nintendo trying to buy reviews.

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#43 Ghost120x
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The salt is at dangerous levels.

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#44 Litchie
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No reason to take you seriously. Ignore thread.

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#45  Edited By PutASpongeOn
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@ProtossRushX said:

Zelda > all those games on your list

Gameplay > Graphics

Zelda = pure gameplay go anywhere fight anywhere sick of walking simulators and painted backgrounds

But Zelda aren't good games, they are just nostalgia fests and the new one looks like an indie game.'

Also zeldas open world is the same as horizon zero dawn, you literally said go anywhere fight anywhere yet used walking simulator and painted backgrounds for horizon zero dawn when it's literally the same, that's called double standards.

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#46 FLOPPAGE_50
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@putaspongeon: butthurt cow detected

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#47 zeeshanhaider
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Always said that it was a TPS in disguise.

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#48  Edited By PutASpongeOn
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@putaspongeon: butthurt cow detected

Nope, Zelda has always just sucked to me. I'd rather play xenoblade chronicles x, the wonderful 101, bayonetta 2, and stuff like that.

It's hard to call me a cow when the only non xbox consoles I've not had (also have a upper end gaming pc) I've not had since since 5th generation is a wii u and a ps1.

Xbox sucks, deal with it.

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#49 SolidGame_basic
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Did you actually try upgrading it or is this just your initial impression? I'm enjoying it.

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I only bow down to god