SEGA leaks Sony's plans for PS2 and Dreamcast emulation on PS3

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#1 Nero_Paladin
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I wouldn't mind downloading ps2 and DC titles (that I missed) onto the ps3.

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There's mention of a big announcement at the back half of this year, which we now know is the PS3 Slim and price cut. However, there's finally confirmation that Sony is interested in emulating all PlayStation 2 games.

The notes reveal that "SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN." Whether this will come as a case by case basis, like the God of War remastering, or that Sony is creating a universal emulator for all PS3 models is unknown. Grand Theft Auto Vice City is one of the titles mentioned.

The publisher has been tasked with providing SCEA a list of titles so that they can choose which games they're interested in having exclusively. It is further added that "if we give them a long period of exclusivity they'll give us more marketing support."

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#2 SaudiFury
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oh wow.. if that is true. that sux for Sony.

another megaton opportunity lost and deflated just days before announcement.

still very very cool.

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I wouldn't be up for buying dreamcast games as I just bought one about a month ago, but the PS2 emulation would be great!

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#5 Blixxed
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Oh I see this going the same way as the Xbox Live thing with Xbox titles, and being completly overpriced and no one buys them.

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#6 Cherokee_Jack
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Dreamcast, huh? That would be cool with the right pricing structure.
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#7 8Tango
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Sonic Adventure 2... YES!

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#8 campbell1874
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Sony have seen that the 360 can make money selling past games on xbox live marketplace and want a peice of that.

Sony is a joke when it comes to all of this. Before the PS3 was out Sony made it a selling point that you could play PS2 games on the PS3. They soon removed the BC from the PS3 with their customers asking for it to be returned. Now they are going to try and re-sell you all the old games.

They should at least add a download for PS2 emulation then i wouldn't mind buying PS2 games from PSN that i don't already own or are willing to pay for again with updated graphics.

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#9 amaneuvering
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If they did both PS2 and Dreamcast then that really would be cool and I think it would be a bit of a feather in Sony's cap. The Dreamcast is a machine the many gamers have fond memories of and being able to play it's games on PS3 would be very cool indeed. I'm not sure how they could do it with all the licensing issues, unless it's just the Sega games, but it would be cool.

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#10 double_heist
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SKIES OF ARCADIA PLS I LOVE YOU SEGA. :P
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#11 SaudiFury
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Oh I see this going the same way as the Xbox Live thing with Xbox titles, and being completly overpriced and no one buys them.

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i don't know man. there are at least 10 PS2 games i'd buy again or new. Final Fantasy 10 (never got to it) Final Fantasy 12 (never got to it) Shadow of Cololssus (never got to it) Ico (never got to it) Kingdom Hearts (Do not mind buying again, no more then $20) Kingdom Hearts 2 (Do not mind buying again, no more then $20) GTA: Vice City (Do not mind buying again, no more then $20 - this was my favorite GTA game of that gen) Ace Combat 5 (love love love the AC series, especially 5) Ace Combat 4 (my first PS2 game, don't mind buying it again) Ace combat 0 (don't mind buying it again.) Metal Gear solid 2 (Never got to it) Metal Gear Solid 3 (Never Got to it) you know what would be awesome on top of all that? if they added trophy support like they did with God of War Collection. There is one game i'd buy for Dreamcast (i was never a sega guy so i never played it), and that was that skate-painting game. Jet-Set something.
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What a screwed up move by Sony, removing BC from the PS3 and now charging for it. So basically we have to re-buy PS2 games to play them on the PS3 if the PS2 died. Or of course fork over $100 fee to Sony.
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#14 shutdown_202
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Cooli guess. I pretty much have every DC game that i want so thats a no go and i can find most retail copy PS2 games for under $10 so im cool. But still, nice for the people who just want a DD.

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#15 Blue-Sky
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FAKE

Man you guys sure jump up and down on rumors. Did you guys even read the article? There was like no mention of the Dreamcast portion other than the one sentence at end that sited no sources of information. The PS2 emulation is plausible and was the only portion of the article that was "backed up" by the initial info leak from "confidential letters" but the DC part? Bogus...

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All PS2 titles.... Rez on PS3?:shock: my dreams comes true

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#17 CleanNJerk
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I wouldn't mind downloading ps2 and DC titles (that I missed) onto the ps3.

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There's mention of a big announcement at the back half of this year, which we now know is the PS3 Slim and price cut. However, there's finally confirmation that Sony is interested in emulating all PlayStation 2 games.

The notes reveal that "SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN." Whether this will come as a case by case basis, like the God of War remastering, or that Sony is creating a universal emulator for all PS3 models is unknown. Grand Theft Auto Vice City is one of the titles mentioned.

The publisher has been tasked with providing SCEA a list of titles so that they can choose which games they're interested in having exclusively. It is further added that "if we give them a long period of exclusivity they'll give us more marketing support."

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WHO CARES IF IT WAS LEAKED THIS IS COLOSSAL NEWS!!! Yo boi you got Dreamcast in ma PStree dis morn whut up!!
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#18 SaudiFury
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FAKE

Man you guys sure jump up and down on rumors. Did you guys even read the article? There was like no mention of the Dreamcast portion other than the one sentence at end that sited no sources of information. PS2 emulation is plausible but the DC part? Bogus...

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try and remember Wii's Virtual Console has access to Sega's past consoles game library, as well Turbografix and NeoGeo. with Sega out of the console business and solely in the software business. I can see it totally feasible that - through software emulation - Sony will try to copy Nintendo's move (they already kinda have with PSone games). what better way to get one of the alltime greatest consoles (PS2) and a fan-cult favorite the DreamCast? we'll only know for sure when it comes to TGS.
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#19 CleanNJerk
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What a screwed up move by Sony, removing BC from the PS3 and now charging for it. So basically we have to re-buy PS2 games to play them on the PS3 if the PS2 died. Or of course fork over $100 fee to Sony. themyth01
Hmmm???
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Dreamcast + PS3 = Win
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#21 double_heist
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FAKE

Man you guys sure jump up and down on rumors. Did you guys even read the article? There was like no mention of the Dreamcast portion other than the one sentence at end that sited no sources of information. The PS2 emulation is plausible and was the only portion of the article that was "backed up" by the initial info leak from "confidential letters" but the DC part? Bogus...

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If it's fake, why is it in Sega's official web? ftp://segapr.segaamerica.com/SEGA_News/SCEA%20Meeting%20Aug%205th%20Notes%20BH.dochttp://www.mediafire.com/?mnz2ydeznjz (Backup)
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#22 SaudiFury
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looks like somebody is getting a lecture, pay cut, or fired....

This is big though - if it all works out.

but to the person who complains about it bineg a re-buy or possible an emulation basis. if you bothered to read that link. you'll quickly see their trying to find ways for you to BUY.

good will only goes so far. to them and from a good business stand point - at this stage in the game, a good will is reselling of PS2/DC games, OR do what they do with PSone, and have it both on PSN and allow emulation. either way, the OPPORTUNITY to buy will be offered.

at the end of the day they gotta go to their bosses and stockholders and tell them how many dollars they made, not how many gamers they made happy.

was really hoping to hear about PSP games coming to PSN, they said 300 we've yet to see that number. really hoping to hear something on that at TGS.

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It simply wont happen, the PS2 is incredibly difficult to emulate and then lets remember the PS3 is a difficult system too. MS could only get 500 or so titles working with an original as well as current-gen system that are way more simple to work with.
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It simply wont happen, the PS2 is incredibly difficult to emulate and then lets remember the PS3 is a difficult system too. MS could only get 500 or so titles working with an original as well as current-gen system that are way more simple to work with.GulliversTravel

If someone did 80% functional emulator thanks to reverse enginiring imagine people doing emulator with 100% clear PS2 specification and don't say PS3 diffculty will stop it's own creator ;) Besides original BC of PS3 was also 80% functional, MGS3 does not start on him.

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#25 Syferonik
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I am sooo getting Shadow of Colossus and Ico if this happens
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#26 jmdude
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I'm gonna wet my pants off if this is true!:P it's the only important thing missing on my PS3.

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#27 Nidget
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Hmm so they think the initial level of Alpha Protocol is too challenging!? And that it doesnt feel like an RPG? Oh dear, i hope theyve got this wrong, im really looking forward to that game.
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#28 110million
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This sounds far too good to be true, but if it is, the rest of TGS doesn't matter for me, though I do hope with PS2 downloadable, it would only make sense to allow PS2 games to work in general as well through emulation, my Dreamcast still works, and I do have all the games I want for it, but it is showing its age, freezes at times and such, if I had a more permanent and sure-fire way to play my DC games, even if I would have to buy them again, I'd be all for it. But again, this sounds way too good to be true, so I'll keep an eye on it, and hope for the best.

Also, that DOC file is kind of sketchy, seems a little too casual in tone.

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Dreamcast + PS3 = Winsonicthemegaman

Pretty much this. = )

I'll believe it when I see it though--I don't want to get my hopes up for nothing.

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#30 Nidget
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Wasnt PS2 emulation already planned?

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#31 AdoringFan_
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FAKE

Man you guys sure jump up and down on rumors. Did you guys even read the article? There was like no mention of the Dreamcast portion other than the one sentence at end that sited no sources of information. The PS2 emulation is plausible and was the only portion of the article that was "backed up" by the initial info leak from "confidential letters" but the DC part? Bogus...

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And you strike once again! Wow your on a role :roll:

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I think Sega should deny Sony access to the Dreamcast IPs required to do emulation; anyone remember Bleem!cast and what Sony did to that?

Yes I'm still bitter about Bleem!

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#33 3rdbass
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This isn't going to be emulation. They are going to make people buy the old PS2 classics in HD for extra money. Sony isn't stupid they make very little money from adding emulation as most of the PS2 games are usedor people have already bought themand very few new games are coming out.

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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]It simply wont happen, the PS2 is incredibly difficult to emulate and then lets remember the PS3 is a difficult system too. MS could only get 500 or so titles working with an original as well as current-gen system that are way more simple to work with.ShadowriverUB

If someone did 80% functional emulator thanks to reverse enginiring imagine people doing emulator with 100% clear PS2 specification and don't say PS3 diffculty will stop it's own creator ;) Besides original BC of PS3 was also 80% functional, MGS3 does not start on him.

Thats because original and later models had the Emotion Engine and sometimes the Graphics Synthesizer chips, the CPU itself is a beast to emulate.
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lol, another awesome announcement spoiled days before the event.

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#36 BuryMe
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So does that mean that BC could be comming bacl to the PS3?

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#37 Ontain
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1. remove BC support

2. release games on psn

3. profit.

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#38 110million
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1. remove BC support

2. release games on psn

3. profit.

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I don't believe it would be possible to put in PS2 emulation JUST for PSN releases, it would have to allow disk games too, no one is going to complain that they offer hard to find PS1 games as download, because you can play them anyway by disk, so I'm pretty sure this will be the same.
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If true, then PS3 is going to be one mega-gaming machine.
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#40 Couth_
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At some point Sony is going to discontinue the PS2. And at that point, I expect them to implement BC via software emulation. As far as the DC thing. Wow Sony and Sega must have a great relationship
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#41 TruedUp
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Dreamcast, huh? That would be cool with the right pricing structure.Cherokee_Jack
My thoughts exactly. Lots of good titles from the DC. Original Soul Calibur, yessss! lol
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#42 ironcreed
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Hmm so they think the initial level of Alpha Protocol is too challenging!? And that it doesnt feel like an RPG? Oh dear, i hope theyve got this wrong, im really looking forward to that game.Nidget

I'm with you, but I fear a delay is in the cards for AP. There has been no new footage lately and they still have not even announced a hard date outside of the target dates of October 6th and October 27th that are floating around. To top it off, Sega is not even showing the game at TGS. I am about ready to cancel my preorder and put the money on something I know is releasing. I'll worry about AP when it finally does arrive.

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If true, then PS3 is going to be one mega-gaming machine.aaronmullan
Amen to that.
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#44 blazinpuertoroc
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sounds awesome, even thought I have my 60gb. But I wouldnt mind buying a few games that I missed out on, on it. But I'd rather buy the original on ebay, including dreamcast games.

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If its true thats a really great thing.

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#46 Nintendo_Ownes7
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If this is true I can't wait for it because I haven't really bought many Dreamcast games. I would love to play the games I missed.

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#47 Tony-Baxter
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The Sega Saturn wouldn't be bad either.
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#48 Lionheart08
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DC + PS2 + PS3

Very nice combo indeed. :)

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#49 Filthybastrd
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It'd be downright stupid to complain about added content but I doubt I'll use this much. I've always been advocating that B/C was'nt as big a deal as many system warriors made it out to be but I guess I could find a few games I missed or just something that would hit the nostalgia nerve.

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#50 walbeb
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Man i have been trying to find my dreamcast and this would make my year.

I mean i have a PS2 but i wouldn't mind playing FFX in hi def at all.

And to people saying that they are going to price this games crazy expensive, it depends on popularity, the PS1 games MGS1 and FF7 cost 10$ (really cheap since people want to sell them for crazy.) I think15-20$ would be fair, imean i can only hope they don't go all M$ on us.