Seriously people, God of War 3 is console graphics king!!!

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#1 Squall18
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I mean, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 look amazing, but I played through the Poseidon battle the other day, and was just amazing.

I mean, Kratos's face in the menu is epic.

agree? disagree?

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#2 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Screenshots?
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#3 Chutebox
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It's tough to choose.

GoW3 has the best visuals on a console, but it's also inconsistent.

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#4 Arach666
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No,that would be Uncharted 2,but GoW3 looks very good as well,same for Killzone 2.
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#6 Fightingfan
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Killzone2 It has maps the size of battle field and look at its awesome. God of war is a linear cave.
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#7 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

I mean, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 look amazing, but I played through the Poseidon battle the other day, and was just amazing.

I mean, Kratos's face in the menu is epic.

agree? disagree?

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No,that would be Uncharted 2,but GoW3 looks very good as well,same for Killzone 2.Arach666
Crysis.

They are talking about consoles, like the title says. I know, no such thing as console GK...
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#8 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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seriously people stop these threads.
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this is going to be a long weekend....
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#10 shadownetsam
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No,that would be Uncharted 2,but GoW3 looks very good as well,same for Killzone 2.Arach666
Actually you are wrong the only thing uncharted 2 has better then gow 3 is textures and that is barely. Gow3 kills every console game in everything that has to do with graphics and worst part is it's only using 50-60% of ps3's power.
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#11 Vaasman
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Beyond it's scale theres nothing that makes it more impressive than Uncharted 2, and there are parts of the game that look rather bland compared to the stuff in the first few scenes.

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#12 navyguy21
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Well GOW3 does look good, but something has to be discounted since it has fixed camera angles, is linear, and scripted. Uncharted 2/Alan Wake are still kings to me.
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#13 hard_body79
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I agree,

I own all the PS3 heavy hitters praised for graphics and Crisis and Crisis Warhead. God of war 3 kinda smacks all of'em, it's not open world but it has incredible scale and that has to be considered.

GOW3 is the most impressive game I have ever played in my life --and not once during the chaotic action and no matter how many enimes are on screen does it ever miss a beat. People who say other wise I just can't take them seriously because I've played ALL the games that professional reviews praised as the best, and GOW3 is better. I just finished beating the Chronos Titan today, untouchable.

IMHO the only way anyone can "honestly" say that GOW3 isn't best looking game they've ever played is if the only played it on a SDTV or they played Crysis/Crysis warhead on very high/enthusiest with the some very good mods equiped.

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#14 Vaasman
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I agree,

I own all the PS3 heavy hitters praised for graphics and Crisis and Crisis Warhead. God of war 3 kinda smacks all of'em, it's not open world but it has incredible scale and that has to be considered.

GOW3 is the most impressive game I have ever played in my life. People who say other wise I just can't take them seriously because I've played ALL the I just finished beating the Chronos Titan today.

IMHO the only way anyone can "honestly" say that GOW3 isn't best looking game they've ever played is if the only played it on a SDTV or they played Crysis/Crysiswarhead on very high/enthusiest with the some very good mods equiped.

hard_body79

lol no, there are 5-6 games I can think of that beat GoW3 on the PC, and you definitely don't need mods for crysis to poop all over GoW3.

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I agree,

I own all the PS3 heavy hitters praised for graphics and Crisis and Crisis Warhead. God of war 3 kinda smacks all of'em, it's not open world but it has incredible scale and that has to be considered.

GOW3 is the most impressive game I have ever played in my life. People who say other wise I just can't take them seriously because I've played ALL the I just finished beating the Chronos Titan today.

IMHO the only way anyone can "honestly" say that GOW3 isn't best looking game they've ever played is if the only played it on a SDTV or they played Crysis/Crysiswarhead on very high/enthusiest with the some very good mods equiped.

hard_body79
The fact that you spelled Crysis like Crisis makes me believe you don't own them. But even Vanilla Crysis on high owns God of War 3.
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#16 shadownetsam
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Beyond it's scale theres nothing that makes it more impressive than Uncharted 2, and there are parts of the game that look rather bland compared to the stuff in the first few scenes.

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I don't know what you're smoking but like I said the only thing uncharted 2 has better then gow 3 is textures and thats barely. Also to that other guy they could of easily added a 3d camera all environments in gow3 pan around showing everything around you meaning they could of easily done a 3d cam if they wanted to but thats not possible because you use both analogs already.
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Hey, I agree with you.
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I agree,

I own all the PS3 heavy hitters praised for graphics and Crisis and Crisis Warhead. God of war 3 kinda smacks all of'em, it's not open world but it has incredible scale and that has to be considered.

GOW3 is the most impressive game I have ever played in my life. People who say other wise I just can't take them seriously because I've played ALL the I just finished beating the Chronos Titan today.

IMHO the only way anyone can "honestly" say that GOW3 isn't best looking game they've ever played is if the only played it on a SDTV or they played Crysis/Crysiswarhead on very high/enthusiest with the some very good mods equiped.

hard_body79
So people cant have their own opinion? Didnt you just share yours? How does it make yours better than anyone elses?
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#19 WilliamRLBaker
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I was under the impression that graphics king is not based on actual graphics but whether a critical source gives it such props as having insane graphics, all time graphics, best graphics...ect

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#20 hard_body79
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[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

I agree,

I own all the PS3 heavy hitters praised for graphics and Crisis and Crisis Warhead. God of war 3 kinda smacks all of'em, it's not open world but it has incredible scale and that has to be considered.

GOW3 is the most impressive game I have ever played in my life. People who say other wise I just can't take them seriously because I've played ALL the I just finished beating the Chronos Titan today.

IMHO the only way anyone can "honestly" say that GOW3 isn't best looking game they've ever played is if the only played it on a SDTV or they played Crysis/Crysiswarhead on very high/enthusiest with the some very good mods equiped.

Vaasman

lol no, there are 5-6 games I can think of that beat GoW3 on the PC, and you definitely don't need mods for crysis to poop all over GoW3.

So, lol, you own a PS3 have played GOW3?

Also, why would I need 5 or 6 other games on PC? Crysis and Crysis warhead are the benchmark and I have those, everything else gose down from there, or what something released on PC that trumps Crysis that I wasn't aware of?

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Only thing keeping gow 3 being up there with crysis is th elack of running in high resolution and lacking high levels of anisotropic filtering and no they are not 5 or 6 games that can hang with it on pc only crysis beats it. I know I played all the graphic show pieces on pc I'm a graphics whore. Now if you are talking about mods thats a different story then I would agree with you.
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#22 dakan45
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Nope, its not that impressive.
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#23 successful19
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not even close, god of war have average graphics at best.... uncharted 2=graphics kings

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#24 shadownetsam
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Nope, its not that impressive.dakan45
lol stop playing on sdtv lol. I wish I had a capture card I would make you turn into a ps3 fan as a matter of fact you would call bullshots.
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#25 shadownetsam
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not even close, god of war have average graphics at best.... uncharted 2=graphics kings

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Are you insane???Stop playing in sdtv gow3 is insane in graphics as a matter of fact I will link you to capture card screenshot that eat uncharted 2 alive.
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#26 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

I agree,

I own all the PS3 heavy hitters praised for graphics and Crisis and Crisis Warhead. God of war 3 kinda smacks all of'em, it's not open world but it has incredible scale and that has to be considered.

GOW3 is the most impressive game I have ever played in my life. People who say other wise I just can't take them seriously because I've played ALL the I just finished beating the Chronos Titan today.

IMHO the only way anyone can "honestly" say that GOW3 isn't best looking game they've ever played is if the only played it on a SDTV or they played Crysis/Crysiswarhead on very high/enthusiest with the some very good mods equiped.

hard_body79

lol no, there are 5-6 games I can think of that beat GoW3 on the PC, and you definitely don't need mods for crysis to poop all over GoW3.

So, lol, you own a PS3 have played GOW3?

Also, why would I need 5 or 6 other games on PC? Crysis and Crysis warhead are the benchmark and I have those, everything else gose down from there, or what something released on PC that trumps Crysis that I wasn't aware of?

I don't own a PS3 but I've seen GoW3 played several times and played myself at least a while, mostly the first part cuz when my old housemates have guests they all play the beginning part.

Crysis is graphics kingbut there are plenty of PC games that also look better than what consoles can offer.

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[QUOTE="successful19"]

not even close, god of war have average graphics at best.... uncharted 2=graphics kings

shadownetsam

Are you insane???Stop playing in sdtv gow3 is insane in graphics as a matter of fact I will link you to capture card screenshot that eat uncharted 2 alive.

i played in hd, the gameplay wasn't too good either :?

im not saying the graphics are bad, but theres 3-4 games on ps3 that has better graphics than god of war

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#28 hard_body79
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[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

I agree,

I own all the PS3 heavy hitters praised for graphics and Crisis and Crisis Warhead. God of war 3 kinda smacks all of'em, it's not open world but it has incredible scale and that has to be considered.

GOW3 is the most impressive game I have ever played in my life. People who say other wise I just can't take them seriously because I've played ALL the I just finished beating the Chronos Titan today.

IMHO the only way anyone can "honestly" say that GOW3 isn't best looking game they've ever played is if the only played it on a SDTV or they played Crysis/Crysiswarhead on very high/enthusiest with the some very good mods equiped.

DragonfireXZ95

The fact that you spelled Crysis like Crisis makes me believe you don't own them. But even Vanilla Crysis on high owns God of War 3.

:)

What does your belief have to do with reality?

and I disagree, I play crysis on high it's impressive in the jungle because of the draw distance and the fact that it's sandbox, but crysis is just about as inconsistant as GOW3 but most poeple who praise it's graphics never tell others this. I know I proabably need to use some mods but I don't bother because it's too bothersome for me.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Nope, its not that impressive.shadownetsam
lol stop playing on sdtv lol. I wish I had a capture card I would make you turn into a ps3 fan as a matter of fact you would call bullshots.

id like to see that, especially seeing as i have had crysis shots from my computer called bullshots.
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#30 shadownetsam
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Don't ever doubt that king of console graphics ever again look at these. http://www.gametrailers.com/users/manzoorboy06/gamepad/?action=viewblog&id=509871 Sad part is this guys tv doesn't look calibrated my tv is calibrated and tweeked and it looks ten times better and higher res. Wish I had a capture card to show you how beautiful it really looks like :(.
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Don't ever doubt that king of console graphics ever again look at these. http://www.gametrailers.com/users/manzoorboy06/gamepad/?action=viewblog&id=509871 Sad part is this guys tv doesn't look calibrated my tv is calibrated and tweeked and it looks ten times better and high res. Wish I had a capture card to show you how beautiful it really looks like :(.shadownetsam
Ok, we get it dude, YOU think it looks better than any other game. Thats fine, but dont continue to force your opinion on others if they disagree with you.
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Only thing keeping gow 3 being up there with crysis is th elack of running in high resolution and lacking high levels of anisotropic filtering and no they are not 5 or 6 games that can hang with it on pc only crysis beats it. I know I played all the graphic show pieces on pc I'm a graphics whore. Now if you are talking about mods thats a different story then I would agree with you.shadownetsam

You compare GOW3 that is in a path 100% of the time, to the open jungles of Crysis, that pack 1.000.000 times the detail and objects ?

Also Crysis has dynamic volumetric lighting, huge thick foliage and forests and huge scale and open levels, things only Alan Wake has in consoles (and maybe Crysis 2), none other and definatly not GOW3

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#33 Espada12
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Nah I don't think so.. simply because it's inconsistent.

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#34 hard_body79
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[QUOTE="shadownetsam"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Nope, its not that impressive.ferret-gamer
lol stop playing on sdtv lol. I wish I had a capture card I would make you turn into a ps3 fan as a matter of fact you would call bullshots.

id like to see that, especially seeing as i have had crysis shots from my computer called bullshots.

:) But--my PC is better than yours.

Also I own a PS360 gig(HDMI), xbox360 elite (HDMI) , and a Gaming PC (HDMI)

I own a 1080P 46'' samsung Plasma Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GOW3, Crysis and Crysis Warhead>Your claim of seeing GOW3 onsome friends PS3 (such stong pedegree for the judgement you'retrying so hard to makehere).

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[QUOTE="shadownetsam"]Only thing keeping gow 3 being up there with crysis is the lack of running in high resolution and lacking high levels of anisotropic filtering and no they are not 5 or 6 games that can hang with it on pc only crysis beats it. I know I played all the graphic show pieces on pc I'm a graphics whore. Now if you are talking about mods thats a different story then I would agree with you.theseekar

You compare GOW3 that is in a path 100% of the time, to the open jungles of Crysis, that pack 1.000.000 times the detail and objects ?

Also Crysis has dynamic volumetric lighting, huge thick foliage and forests and huge scale and open levels, things only Alan Wake has in consoles (and maybe Crysis 2), none other and definatly not GOW3

Umm I never compared it to crysis what are you talking about??lol alan wake are you kidding nice try but you fail??? You know a game named alone in the dark inferno has massive environments and dynamic lighting also on ps3??You might as well call it alan wake ps3 lol.
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[QUOTE="shadownetsam"]Only thing keeping gow 3 being up there with crysis is th elack of running in high resolution and lacking high levels of anisotropic filtering and no they are not 5 or 6 games that can hang with it on pc only crysis beats it. I know I played all the graphic show pieces on pc I'm a graphics whore. Now if you are talking about mods thats a different story then I would agree with you.theseekar

You compare GOW3 that is in a path 100% of the time, to the open jungles of Crysis, that pack 1.000.000 times the detail and objects ?

Also Crysis has dynamic volumetric lighting, huge thick foliage and forests and huge scale and open levels, things only Alan Wake has in consoles (and maybe Crysis 2), none other and definatly not GOW3

so you've played GOW3, correct? perhaps you could post pics or your gamertag and psn id.
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#37 shadownetsam
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Nah I don't think so.. simply because it's inconsistent.

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Helloooooo all games are inconsistent even the king of graphics crysis you sr make no sense.
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="shadownetsam"]Only thing keeping gow 3 being up there with crysis is the lack of running in high resolution and lacking high levels of anisotropic filtering and no they are not 5 or 6 games that can hang with it on pc only crysis beats it. I know I played all the graphic show pieces on pc I'm a graphics whore. Now if you are talking about mods thats a different story then I would agree with you.shadownetsam

You compare GOW3 that is in a path 100% of the time, to the open jungles of Crysis, that pack 1.000.000 times the detail and objects ?

Also Crysis has dynamic volumetric lighting, huge thick foliage and forests and huge scale and open levels, things only Alan Wake has in consoles (and maybe Crysis 2), none other and definatly not GOW3

Umm I never compared it to crysis what are you talking about??lol alan wake are you kidding nice try but you fail??? You know a game named alone in the dark inferno has massive environments and dynamic lighting also on ps3??You might as well call it alan wake ps3 lol.

not just dynamic..."volumetric" :P
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="shadownetsam"]lol stop playing on sdtv lol. I wish I had a capture card I would make you turn into a ps3 fan as a matter of fact you would call bullshots.hard_body79

id like to see that, especially seeing as i have had crysis shots from my computer called bullshots.

:) But--my PC is better than yours.

Also I own a PS360 gig(HDMI), xbox360 elite (HDMI) , and a Gaming PC (HDMI)

I own a 1080P 46'' samsung Plasma Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GOW3, Crysis and Crysis Warhead>Your claim of seeing GOW3 onsome friends PS3 (such stong pedegree for the judgement you'retrying so hard to makehere).

actually the screenshot that was claimed to be a bullshot was from a radeon 3870. and when did i claim to see gow3 on my friends ps3?

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#40 zarshack
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I've played through the entire game and no i do not agree. Some parts of it look amazing but the overall game is not as consistantly good as KZ2 or Uncharted 2.

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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="shadownetsam"]Only thing keeping gow 3 being up there with crysis is th elack of running in high resolution and lacking high levels of anisotropic filtering and no they are not 5 or 6 games that can hang with it on pc only crysis beats it. I know I played all the graphic show pieces on pc I'm a graphics whore. Now if you are talking about mods thats a different story then I would agree with you.clone01

You compare GOW3 that is in a path 100% of the time, to the open jungles of Crysis, that pack 1.000.000 times the detail and objects ?

Also Crysis has dynamic volumetric lighting, huge thick foliage and forests and huge scale and open levels, things only Alan Wake has in consoles (and maybe Crysis 2), none other and definatly not GOW3

so you've played GOW3, correct? perhaps you could post pics or your gamertag and psn id.

I have gow3 and uncharted 2 and I play xbox games on my friends xbox I forgot his gamer tag but I can give you my psn name and you can see i'm not bsing you. psn: ShadownetOne I'm a audio/videophile/graphics whore I know beautiful when I see it.
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#42 shadownetsam
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[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] id like to see that, especially seeing as i have had crysis shots from my computer called bullshots.ferret-gamer

:) But--my PC is better than yours.

Also I own a PS360 gig(HDMI), xbox360 elite (HDMI) , and a Gaming PC (HDMI)

I own a 1080P 46'' samsung Plasma Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GOW3, Crysis and Crysis Warhead>Your claim of seeing GOW3 onsome friends PS3 (such stong pedegree for the judgement you'retrying so hard to makehere).

actually the screenshot that was claimed to be a bullshot was from a radeon 3870. and when did i claim to see gow3 on my friends ps3?

Dude you are making crysis look bad with that horrible screenshot I played it and it looks ten times better then that.
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#43 Arach666
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

:) But--my PC is better than yours.

Also I own a PS360 gig(HDMI), xbox360 elite (HDMI) , and a Gaming PC (HDMI)

I own a 1080P 46'' samsung Plasma Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GOW3, Crysis and Crysis Warhead>Your claim of seeing GOW3 onsome friends PS3 (such stong pedegree for the judgement you'retrying so hard to makehere).

shadownetsam

actually the screenshot that was claimed to be a bullshot was from a radeon 3870. and when did i claim to see gow3 on my friends ps3?

Dude you are making crysis look bad with that horrible screenshot I played it and it looks ten times better then that.

You mean the screenshot that looks much better than GoW3? *Sigh*...
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#44 clone01
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I have gow3 and uncharted 2 and I play xbox games on my friends xbox I forgot his gamer tag but I can give you my psn name and you can see i'm not bsing you. psn: ShadownetOne I'm a audio/videophile/graphics whore I know beautiful when I see it.shadownetsam
this comment wasn't directed at you...it was directed that theseekar.
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#45 successful19
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[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] id like to see that, especially seeing as i have had crysis shots from my computer called bullshots.ferret-gamer

:) But--my PC is better than yours.

Also I own a PS360 gig(HDMI), xbox360 elite (HDMI) , and a Gaming PC (HDMI)

I own a 1080P 46'' samsung Plasma Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, GOW3, Crysis and Crysis Warhead>Your claim of seeing GOW3 onsome friends PS3 (such stong pedegree for the judgement you'retrying so hard to makehere).

actually the screenshot that was claimed to be a bullshot was from a radeon 3870. and when did i claim to see gow3 on my friends ps3?

if crysis looks like that, then that's extra sh1tty lol, looks worst than just cause 2

god of war and uncharted will **** all over that pic on it's worst screens

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#46 shadownetsam
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I've played through the entire game and no i do not agree. Some parts of it look amazing but the overall game is not as consistantly good as KZ2 or Uncharted 2.

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I can tell you no nothing about graphics making a claim like that. Uncharted yes in textures and thats it but barely. killzone 2 are you kidding me even guerilla in one of the current interviews wants to make a better looking and playing game then gow3 they even know its better looking.
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#47 shadownetsam
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lol no not stating anything by saying that. Yes crysis is better looking then gow3 but he's just making crysis overall look ugly with that screenshot
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[QUOTE="shadownetsam"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

actually the screenshot that was claimed to be a bullshot was from a radeon 3870. and when did i claim to see gow3 on my friends ps3?

Arach666

Dude you are making crysis look bad with that horrible screenshot I played it and it looks ten times better then that.

You mean the screenshot that looks much better than GoW3? *Sigh*...

this was expected its easy to see the pattern. When i post that normally somone willl: usually say it is a mod running at -1fps or something, or say it is a bullshot.

BUT, if i tell them that the cows have called it a bullshot before it becomes crappy.

That happens ever time, i was just testing to see if it would repeat again with my post.

so lol

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#49 shadownetsam
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[QUOTE="shadownetsam"]I have gow3 and uncharted 2 and I play xbox games on my friends xbox I forgot his gamer tag but I can give you my psn name and you can see i'm not bsing you. psn: ShadownetOne I'm a audio/videophile/graphics whore I know beautiful when I see it.clone01
this comment wasn't directed at you...it was directed that theseekar.

You quoted me I think thats why I send that.
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#50 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="shadownetsam"]I have gow3 and uncharted 2 and I play xbox games on my friends xbox I forgot his gamer tag but I can give you my psn name and you can see i'm not bsing you. psn: ShadownetOne I'm a audio/videophile/graphics whore I know beautiful when I see it.shadownetsam
this comment wasn't directed at you...it was directed that theseekar.

You quoted me I think thats why I send that.

gotcha...my apologies.