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#101 Bread_or_Decide
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Good. Capcom needs to FEEL this failure. A hadoken to their wallets.

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#102 CWEBB04z
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Japan only cares about weird anime crap. Not surprised.

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#103 spike6958
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Good. As soon as I heard the limited amount of content in this game, I hoped it would bomb. It's about time the gaming community stood up to crap like this.

We've almost all supported a game like this at least once in our lives, so we're all to blame for letting it get to this situation, but it's going too far now. Let's hope a series as high profile as SFV tanking like this, is the start of us showing developers that they need to start putting effort into their games again.

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#104 PSP107
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@StrongBlackVine: "They are OK with paying a studio to make a game. "

Your original comment mentioned them not buying studios. And the reason for my link.

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#105 DocSanchez
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So all those people who have defended the bullshit "console exclusive" going to explain this?

1. Would have sold more without.

2. Apparently we are to believe Sony are the only reason we get SFV in 2016. (Incidentally,. I don't.) Well guess what? They simply released it unfinished anyway you losers. This game should have come out in 2017 if it wasn't going to be ready. If we are to believe them that Sony's bribe money is the only reason they are releasing their most famous and illustrious franchise, which is hilarious.

Come on where are you? Utter disaster of a launch. I was right, admit it.

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#106 PsychoLemons
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Should I be celebrating?

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#107 tormentos
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You're an idiot... He's 100% right, anything that's not Sony related you say is shipped, you're dumb, go away...

Yeah and thats why NPD prove them wrong,considering Greenburg is one of the biggest liars MS has and who doesn't know were his feet are.

Is not the first time he lies about something xbox one.

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#108 KHAndAnime
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@CWEBB04z said:

Japan only cares about weird anime crap. Not surprised.

SF V is weird anime crap

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#109 lawlessx
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good for them..maybe next time they wont rush a game out like that.

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#110 NyaDC
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@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

You're an idiot... He's 100% right, anything that's not Sony related you say is shipped, you're dumb, go away...

Yeah and thats why NPD prove them wrong,considering Greenburg is one of the biggest liars MS has and who doesn't know were his feet are.

Is not the first time he lies about something xbox one.

Literally an employee at Microsoft is telling you what the game sold, and you're sticking to your incomplete sales data for the United States...

Rocket scientist folks...

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@mems_1224: You can't say that. This is SW lol

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#112 delta3074
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@kvally said:
@Salt_The_Fries said:

They like traditional experiences over there, don't they? So they're probably not big on online and since most of them probably realized there's not much content for a solo player, they decided not to give a dam.

Um, Street Figher = Japan. This IS their thing. But sadly, the game is just a bomb in general. If you noticed, it's the Japanese that are on the top of the leaderboards for this game.

i think you missed the main point and he is absolutely right, the Japanese prefer single player offline gaming which is why the Xbox tanks over there, it's too online oriented.

the game itself, street fighter, may be a Japanese thing but online only games are definitely not and being an offline only gamer myself i absolutely sympathize with there stance.

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#113 cainetao11  Online
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@StrongBlackVine: Be a man and admit Sony dropped a check on half ass shit bro. The game launched garbage and after all your MCC talk they should've known better. But they still blew it. kI got same score. MS blew it but sony did too

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#114 StrongBlackVine
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@cainetao11: What is there to admit? Sony funded SFV, but every indication is that it is Capcom that rushed the releases for various reasons. I'm sure Sony isn't happy with this development, but honestly it is not going to have much if any impact on PS4's success. Uncharted 4 is already on everyone's minds after that amazing trailer.

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#115 Mario1331
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the game....needs a lot of work and this is coming from a really big sf fans.

they need to tweak frames. and for the love of **** nerf m bison

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#116 Kashiwaba
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@Mario1331:

The only tweaks the game needs is the challenge mode and the longer story mode otherwise the game is perfect gameplay wise yup bison might me a bit overpowered but that comes at a cost he is hard to use to be fair SFV is the most balanced fighting game i ever played and really it keeps no room for dirty tricks and spammers.

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#117 cainetao11  Online
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@StrongBlackVine: Nintendo funded bayonetta2 but they made sure their investment was put to good use. You know damn well you guys were praising Sony for their being a SF5. But you won't call them out when they obviously didn't do well by their investment. Yes they take some of the blame.

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#118 caryslan2
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@JangoWuzHere said:
@2mrw said:

To be honest I thought that "missing content" bla bla bla wouldn't affect the sales that much. I was wrong.

I still think 400k first month for a fighting game is amazing.

That's not that impressive, especially when Mortal Kombat X probably sold 3x that on release week.

The fighting game audience isn't just a bunch of hardcore players. Casual players like to mess around as well, and having a bunch of fun modes is a nice way to make everybody happy instead of just the minority.

Smash Bros 4 also sold insane numbers in its first month, and the Wii U version was on the worst selling console of this generation.

This is where Capcom missed the mark. They focused too much on the hardcore tournament players and ignored the casual fans that tend to buy fighting games to have fun.

And the argument about how Capcom had to get the game out to appeal to "tournament players" becomes a hollow point when you consider Smash Bros for Wii U and Mortal Kombat X are also at Evo this year, and both of those games launched with most of their content.

In other words, those two games made both the casual and the competitive communities happy.

There is no excuse for Street Fighter V. This is not a fly by night Fighting game series made by a small indie developer. This is the biggest Fighting game franchise that is the Call of Duty of its genre that was made by a company with tons of experience making these kinds of games and the money of Sony backing it up.

SFV never should have launched in such bad shape.

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#119  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@cainetao11: Every investment doesn't pan out. They still had no active role in developingg the game that I have seen any evidence of. Sure you can give them arbitrary blame, but it's Capcom that screwed up and Capcom that will suffer for it.

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#120  Edited By cainetao11  Online
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@StrongBlackVine: Not buying it. If it was MS you'd be all over them for it. They will make money of this one, but if they were really "for the players" they should've made sure what they put their money behind was going to release in quality shape like Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2.

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#121 cainetao11  Online
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It's a bomb, period. It's no better than killer instinct.

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#122  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@cainetao11: Without having the contract in front of us we have no way of knowing how much control Sony had over the release. Obviously they should been a bit more hands on, but I firmly believe Capcom is the party responsible for the rushed launch.

Again which company needed the boost from this game more? PlayStation is gonna sell shit loads this month and year regardless.

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#123 Mario1331
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@Kashiwaba: fair enough i have a problem with bis mechanics. Hes way to safe to be this strong. He has way too many frame traps and his devil reverse is a move inside of head press. Which is ridiculous lol

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@cainetao11 said:

@StrongBlackVine: Not buying it. If it was MS you'd be all over them for it. They will make money of this one, but if they were really "for the players" they should've made sure what they put their money behind was going to release in quality shape like Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2.

Or like Nintendo did with Devil's Third right?

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@NathanDrakeSwag: You just owned him. Very easily at that.

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#126  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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it's funny because if the game was a raging success, all the cows would be praising Sony, but because it has been a disaster it's Capcoms fault.

Anyone who believes Sony put in a shit ton of money for the game to be made and had no say in the game what so ever, is stupid to say the least.

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#127 tormentos
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@nyadc said:

Literally an employee at Microsoft is telling you what the game sold, and you're sticking to your incomplete sales data for the United States...

Rocket scientist folks...

Yeah the same one who told people to not believe everything they read online when the leak about the xbox one plying no used games,having 24 hours online check ups and all that crap that turn to be true.

Just like Spencer claim Kinect would never be unbundle when the leaks came one.

USA is the xbox one biggest market in fact it flopped in UK as well badly,so that leave nowhere else those are the 2 biggest xbox one markets and in both flopped.

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#128 360ru13r
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For people looking to blame this on Sony, it's not their fault Capcom produced a half baked game. Capcom brought this on themselves. I actually feel bad for Sony because Street Fighter 5 being on the PS4 is the only reason I have to get a PS4, but with the game being so half finished I'll just wait for the SFV: Evo edition.

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#129  Edited By EG101
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Street Fighter hasn't been a good game since Street Fighter 3.

Don't understand why people thought SFV was somehow going to be the best fighter this gen.

Killer Instinct is the Superior game and since all the Cows have High End gaming Rigs they will all be able to play it at 4K anyways. KI Season 3 is about to release and it's bringing a whole new Global illumination engine to all 3 seasons. I can't understand Why anyone would want to play the far inferior SFV. SFV has Inferior characters, inferior gameplay, inferior network play just a whole lot of inferiority when comparing SFV to Killer Instinct.

Killer Instinct actually runs internally at 90 FPS keeping the gameplay super tight.

Killer Instinct runs at 90FPS

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@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

Literally an employee at Microsoft is telling you what the game sold, and you're sticking to your incomplete sales data for the United States...

Rocket scientist folks...

Yeah the same one who told people to not believe everything they read online when the leak about the xbox one plying no used games,having 24 hours online check ups and all that crap that turn to be true.

Just like Spencer claim Kinect would never be unbundle when the leaks came one.

USA is the xbox one biggest market in fact it flopped in UK as well badly,so that leave nowhere else those are the 2 biggest xbox one markets and in both flopped.

Well, I don't think they wanted to until they had no choice. Doesn't make it better though.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

Literally an employee at Microsoft is telling you what the game sold, and you're sticking to your incomplete sales data for the United States...

Rocket scientist folks...

Yeah the same one who told people to not believe everything they read online when the leak about the xbox one plying no used games,having 24 hours online check ups and all that crap that turn to be true.

Just like Spencer claim Kinect would never be unbundle when the leaks came one.

USA is the xbox one biggest market in fact it flopped in UK as well badly,so that leave nowhere else those are the 2 biggest xbox one markets and in both flopped.

Well, I don't think they wanted to until they had no choice. Doesn't make it better though.

They said they couldn't "flip a switch" and remove all that DRM and 24 hour monitoring shit too and the second they saw their preorder numbers they reversed everything and sent out a big apology note.

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#132 EG101
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

Literally an employee at Microsoft is telling you what the game sold, and you're sticking to your incomplete sales data for the United States...

Rocket scientist folks...

Yeah the same one who told people to not believe everything they read online when the leak about the xbox one plying no used games,having 24 hours online check ups and all that crap that turn to be true.

Just like Spencer claim Kinect would never be unbundle when the leaks came one.

USA is the xbox one biggest market in fact it flopped in UK as well badly,so that leave nowhere else those are the 2 biggest xbox one markets and in both flopped.

Well, I don't think they wanted to until they had no choice. Doesn't make it better though.

They said they couldn't "flip a switch" and remove all that DRM and 24 hour monitoring shit too and the second they saw their preorder numbers they reversed everything and sent out a big apology note.

That's because they couldn't as long as Don Mattrick and Steve Ballmer were the Top Dogs.

Once Ballmer retired and MS got rid of Mattrick the guys that actually cared about the Xbox brand were able to make the changes required to save the Xbox One.

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@EG101 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

Literally an employee at Microsoft is telling you what the game sold, and you're sticking to your incomplete sales data for the United States...

Rocket scientist folks...

Yeah the same one who told people to not believe everything they read online when the leak about the xbox one plying no used games,having 24 hours online check ups and all that crap that turn to be true.

Just like Spencer claim Kinect would never be unbundle when the leaks came one.

USA is the xbox one biggest market in fact it flopped in UK as well badly,so that leave nowhere else those are the 2 biggest xbox one markets and in both flopped.

Well, I don't think they wanted to until they had no choice. Doesn't make it better though.

They said they couldn't "flip a switch" and remove all that DRM and 24 hour monitoring shit too and the second they saw their preorder numbers they reversed everything and sent out a big apology note.

That's because they couldn't as long as Don Mattrick and Steve Ballmer were the Top Dogs.

Once Ballmer retired and MS got rid of Mattrick the guys that actually cared about the Xbox brand were able to make the changes required to save the Xbox One.

Mattrick was still there when they "flipped the switch" and Ballmer had much bigger fish to fry than worrying about a game system. The people still there like Spencer, Mehdi, Greenberg and Hyrb were all on board with DRM, Kinect, 24 hour check ins until the preorder numbers came in. Those decisions were not made by a single person. Everyone likes to use Mattrick as the scapegoat but no way 1 man overruled everything and did all that by himself.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: I didn't know Nintendo funded that drek. But yeah absolutely. If I'm putting the money in or up, you better believe I'm going to do my due diligence and see that it's used properly. If I don't? I am to blame. That's why I say yes Sony with SF5 and you're telling me Nintendo with devil's anus take some blame. I never said Capcom isn't more at fault. But some people, who were all praising Sony for the game even happening are blanketing them now that what was made is simply a good game. That's not the pedigree SF had

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#135 cainetao11  Online
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@StrongBlackVine: I've basically covered how I see this situation in the reply to NathanDrakSwag above. I never once said Capcom isn't more at fault. But the fanboys are acting like the funder shouldn't at least come to call as to why weren't they more involved. We don't have the contract but Capcom couldn't have had that much bargaining leverage in it the way people go on about their finances.

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#136 madsnakehhh
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This game probably will have more legs than any other game this gen, as soon as the big updates and big tournaments began, the game will go on and sell better.

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@deadline-zero0: Series is dead anyway.

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#138 NeoPrime
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Good! Its great to see people FINALLY voting with their wallets, maybe more devs will learn stripping back features and charging the same for it is not a good business model.

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#139 HalcyonScarlet
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

Literally an employee at Microsoft is telling you what the game sold, and you're sticking to your incomplete sales data for the United States...

Rocket scientist folks...

Yeah the same one who told people to not believe everything they read online when the leak about the xbox one plying no used games,having 24 hours online check ups and all that crap that turn to be true.

Just like Spencer claim Kinect would never be unbundle when the leaks came one.

USA is the xbox one biggest market in fact it flopped in UK as well badly,so that leave nowhere else those are the 2 biggest xbox one markets and in both flopped.

Well, I don't think they wanted to until they had no choice. Doesn't make it better though.

They said they couldn't "flip a switch" and remove all that DRM and 24 hour monitoring shit too and the second they saw their preorder numbers they reversed everything and sent out a big apology note.

What does that have to do with Kinect? They only got rid of it because it was keeping prices too high to compete. All I'm saying was, they probably never wanted to. The Xbox One you see today, isn't exactly what MS had in mind, it's more a matter of making the best of a bad situation.

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#140 tormentos
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Well, I don't think they wanted to until they had no choice. Doesn't make it better though.

The problem was that he was ask based on a leak that claimed that the a new xbox one bundle was coming without kinect in the summer.

@EG101 said:

That's because they couldn't as long as Don Mattrick and Steve Ballmer were the Top Dogs.

Once Ballmer retired and MS got rid of Mattrick the guys that actually cared about the Xbox brand were able to make the changes required to save the Xbox One.

No dude stop inventing things and already Phill Spencer recognize he was part of that vission and he took the blame as well in fact he say he could not say he wasn't part of that because he was,maybe you forgot who was saying tv tv tv as well on the xbox one unveil.

@EG101 said:

Street Fighter hasn't been a good game since Street Fighter 3.

Don't understand why people thought SFV was somehow going to be the best fighter this gen.

Killer Instinct is the Superior game and since all the Cows have High End gaming Rigs they will all be able to play it at 4K anyways. KI Season 3 is about to release and it's bringing a whole new Global illumination engine to all 3 seasons. I can't understand Why anyone would want to play the far inferior SFV. SFV has Inferior characters, inferior gameplay, inferior network play just a whole lot of inferiority when comparing SFV to Killer Instinct.

Killer Instinct actually runs internally at 90 FPS keeping the gameplay super tight.

Killer Instinct runs at 90FPS

No KI is not superior and got 73 on meta.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: I didn't know Nintendo funded that drek. But yeah absolutely. If I'm putting the money in or up, you better believe I'm going to do my due diligence and see that it's used properly. If I don't? I am to blame. That's why I say yes Sony with SF5 and you're telling me Nintendo with devil's anus take some blame. I never said Capcom isn't more at fault. But some people, who were all praising Sony for the game even happening are blanketing them now that what was made is simply a good game. That's not the pedigree SF had

SF5 was develop by capcom any blame on sony on how good or bad the game turn out is nothing but blind fanboysm.

The games Sucks on PC to so who do we blame there MS is runs on windows you know.