Shadow of Mordor is good, but its not GOTY

word. i just like hearing people discuss and argue about how they decided on a game of the year. thats why i love the giant bomb goty podcasts.

@mems_1224: The Nemesis system in a Star Wars game is what the Force Unleashed wanted to be but couldn't figure out... If I were EA I'd be allll over that.

@TheEroica: imagine that in a batman game? or elder scrolls/fallout. that would be cool as shit.

@mems_1224: oh man, a persistent Fallout world where gangs and Raiders freely roam would be an amazing advancement to an already immersive design/world.

I'd do a whole lot of embarrassing things for some looks at Fallout 4, mems.

I just got done with it last week, I really enjoyed it. Is it GOTY worthy? Well, who's to say? I'm just glad Monolith Productions finally made something that's garnered them some due attention.

@mems_1224:

I should listen to one of those some day.....

I think people discount the orc captain and war chief system as simply the "nemesis system" doesn't give it enough credit. It's worth noting that the orc captains and war chiefs basically possess nearly all the personality in the game. But it's more than just a "nemesis system", they'll remember fights but the dynamics of the orc struggle for power is a nice system to fool around with as well. You can of course make them and even aid them in rising the ranks, and when it comes to war chief body guard infiltration with orcs you command there's a lot of fun that can be had there. Sending dominated captains to become a war chief's bodyguards, then to go pick a fight with the war chief and have the body guards turn against him... fun stuff.

First of all, it's March, this is well beyond the point where it was relevant. This topic was already discussed to death months ago.

Second, learn to blog your shitty untopicworthy opinions.

Third, SoM won because last year was abysmal. There were only a couple of games that probably could legitimately be called better than SoM, and none of them were as popular with the GS staffers, which is all that really matters in the end.

First, the latest DLC was released recently and was on sale on Steam, so the game is very much, should be discussed.

Second, who cares what you think. Seems to me that many people agree with me, shove that up your ass.

Third, just because last year was abysmal doesn't mean SoM should have won. There were plenty of games that scored better, even here. Bayonetta 2 for example. And just because it was popular with editors here doesn't mean it will stand the test of time.

lmao everything you post is pure dogshit, just learn to accept it man.

People are coming in to nod or shake their head at best, your topic is terrible and encourages absolutely no legitimate discussion. It's just yet another butthurt nonobjective opinion that you try to sell as fact. Tried, yet untrue. The absolute best thing I can even say about it is at least it isn't Bioware related, except that you posted it in tandem with a DA:I thread, also well beyond horrible as a thread, so nuts to that I suppose.

It's like a bunch of freedomfreak threads without any boobs. Truly nightmarish.

Your posts show no worth whatsoever, you don't even try to even be on topic, just come to try and troll me.

You are what you try and call me, as well, you are a hypocrite while you are at it, continuously selling your opinion as fact.

Which its what it is.

But that's the game's only defining feature. Its simply not the sum of its parts. In fact, I believe someone else could take this nemesis system, and not only improve on it, but revolve it around a better game.

Once again, take away the nemesis system and its just another "Arkham Creed" game. In fact, the new DLC does just that, takes away the nemesis system for the most part and ends up being lackluster.

"Many people agree with me". HAH

More people in this thread have disagree with you than agreed with you. But whatever floats your boat I guess. Easy to think greater of yourself when you don't bother considering a different opinion than your own.

@texasgoldrush:

I believe The Phantom Pain is already working on that.......

Loved the game and thought the nemesis system was great. I can't say its GOTY though. I feel like places are giving it goty status simply because the game was a sleeper hit imo. I certainty wasn't expecting it to be good.

Bayonetta 2 should have gotten GOTY if you ask me. That game blew me away.

It was a surprise. My friend told me about it. I was bored one Saturday afternoon and downloaded it. Crap, awesome!

You're late. Everybody already knew this.

It was a great idea but also kind of a gimmick in the way it was implemented.

It felt like something that was thrown in towards the end of development. It had no real effect on the main game.

Very good game, but not my GOTY. I would have enjoyed the game much more, but I found the Nemesis system to be flawed. Having to try and kill the same captains over and over again just because you didn't get that finishing move in became repetitive. Also having to pretty much get tendonitis in my thumb trying to upgrade my sword ruined the game for me.

I would have picked Dragon Age personally, but I guess it was released after the GOTY cutoff date or some crap like that.

Anyway at least they didn't give GOTY to some obscure artsy game, just because it was so beautiful and made an editor cry. (looking directly at Journey).

GS basically gave the Nemesis gimmick GOTY, nothing more, nothing less and is quite disappointing honestly.

You paint a very bleak picture

Only for fans ... I tried it and i found it ... one of the same experience in its core , therefore far from GOTY for my taste. So GOTY AND easily at the same time ? Not even close let alone easily.

It wasn't even the best of its genre. Dragon Age was. Wii U had three exclusives that were better too.

Uh Oh, people agree with you. Guess that makes it a fact now.

The thing is: it wasn't popular with the editors. Only 2 had it in their top 5, like I pointed on the first page.

I don't agree with Gamespot's GOTY choice either, but I would definitely say that mine is Divinity OS.

@Ross_the_Boss6: it felt like the cornerstone of the game to me... As if everything else circled around it, or at least narratively speaking, rested beside it.

It gave the game tremendous improvisation in the sense you could turn that game on and make your own session of fun on your own terms and as the game progressed you were able to further your interaction with the nemesis system using death threats and mind controlling leaders.... Which also effected the main story.

Now, I'm not suggesting the idea of what the nemesis system does is perfectly implemented, as there are dozens of ideas that design inspires for future games, but even in its infancy as a gameplay augmentation, the nemesis system is far from a gimmick.

Gimmicks work on few things and at certain moments of time... For example the wiimote is a gimmick. It only works with wii sports.

Kinect is a gimmick... It only let's you act like an ass hitting air balls.

The Nemesis system just doesn't qualify. It's a great idea, put into practice and the idea can easily be seen augmenting many many games... Imagine a fallout game with a persistent work like that? Oh wow....

Yeah, gimmick is probably a bad word. I really liked the system, and I'm excited to see how it's used in future games. There's a lot of potential there.

I just felt like the main storyline in SoM was lacking and could've been a lot better if the Nemisis system was worked in more.

Any game last year winning game of the year over Bayonetta 2 is crazy. In a year of a bunch of good games, Bayonetta 2 was the only great one. Although if the game was openly punished for having cinematic walking and losing to Shovel Knight, I'm not against this either, because **** cinematic walking.

I liked the gameplay but didn't find the story overly compelling. The identical environment throughout was pretty uninspirational too. Would like them to have another go at it though with some changes, perhaps set it outside of Mordor next time (at least partially if not completely).

almost none of the games were worthy of GOTY but atleast SoM was fun to play.

It's a matter of opinion. Shadow of Mordor was one of the best surprises, but to me GOTY was Dragon Age Inquisition.

Well if you can't see the depth then perhaps that is part of it. It is mechanically sound and all gameplay. It has stellar audio and visual design, and zero technicalities that get in the way of gameplay. No qte cutscene bullshit. I like some games with cinematic qualities but I also would prefer if an actual game was presented front and center.

It was a legit candidate but an easily GOTY ? .. not for me , not even close...

@AzatiS:

Well what were your big picks? It isn't just the polished nature of the game, but I think games that stress gameplay ought to be rewarded.

Bayonetta 2 and DS 2