Shallow Big Planet

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[QUOTE="tccavey2"]I cannot WAIT till this game flops. It will be a gloooooorius day in SW.supermechakirby

Most people wouldnt be here talking about LBP, they'd be playing it

first sign of a bad review and all cows would removes ANY mention of LBP from their sig

I look forward to seeing your sig dissapeer

Remember when you were hyping Too Human AAAA?

Also, where's the PS4?

Because all the big kids are playing shooters right? :roll:kingdre

No, maybe if you did a little research instead of making baseless assumptions you would find out he plays a variety of games. I freaking hate people that think people only like shooters if they don't like a certain game with a cute art style.

Honestly, Little Big Planet's gameplay looks highly unimpressive. The level designing is sweet, but I'm seriously doubting how much fun the gameplay will be. I see it the same way I saw Spore, except I'm still actually very interested in the game. It's like this for either Spore or Little Big Planet:

*Shows extremely boring gameplay video that isn't fun, original, deep, or challenging in any way whatsoever.*

Everyone that isn't me: WHOA! OMGODZ! GAME OF THE YEAR! The gameplay looks like so much fun!

Me: What in God's ****ing name is so great about this game, other than the designing aspects?

Little Big Planet is definitely on my radar, but it still has to prove itself. I'm so unimpressed with the gameplay as of right now.

If your going to change its name to make fun of it you should have said

Little shallow planet, jes your terrible at this are you?

Um no its a platformer with alot of complex platforming machanics all based on its robust physics engine

Honestly, Little Big Planet's gameplay looks highly unimpressive. The level designing is sweet, but I'm seriously doubting how much fun the gameplay will be. I see it the same way I saw Spore, except I'm still actually very interested in the game. It's like this for either Spore or Little Big Planet:

*Shows extremely boring gameplay video that isn't fun, original, deep, or challenging in any way whatsoever.*

Everyone that isn't me: WHOA! OMGODZ! GAME OF THE YEAR! The gameplay looks like so much fun!

Me: What in God's ****ing name is so great about this game, other than the designing aspects?

DeathScape666

don't ask me why someone would make a game about a plummer, sounds like a terrible idea to me

point being previews are NEVER a good gauge on a games final quality

supermechakirby

I really hope you haven't praised Fallout 3 at all.

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Honestly, Little Big Planet's gameplay looks highly unimpressive. The level designing is sweet, but I'm seriously doubting how much fun the gameplay will be. I see it the same way I saw Spore, except I'm still actually very interested in the game. It's like this for either Spore or Little Big Planet:

*Shows extremely boring gameplay video that isn't fun, original, deep, or challenging in any way whatsoever.*

Everyone that isn't me: WHOA! OMGODZ! GAME OF THE YEAR! The gameplay looks like so much fun!

Me: What in God's ****ing name is so great about this game, other than the designing aspects?

LastRedMage

don't ask me why someone would make a game about a plummer, sounds like a terrible idea to me

That was just stupid.

I know you thought you were being clever and making a point, but you failed. Hard.

Try again. No, really... Try again.

Yeah I see this game tanking big time. The hype is insane. V_Isle

the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gamesupermechakirby

please go away fanboy....and never come back

I used to wonder what the hype of this game is all about. Why cows would hype this game. I didn't think it looked good at all to me. However, that changed recently, when I saw the game videos from E3, and I realized just why they were hyping this.

It looks like a very fun platformer. Sure, a lot of the levels might end up sucking, due to lack of imagination by the people who create levels, but I've seen some levels that looked like a lot of fun. And it seems like it will have a variety of levels, whether the focus is on the co-op aspect of the game, with just messing around with friends, some which have some puzzle elements in the game, some which are more focused on simple platforming, and even racing. Hell, one person in this thread posted a video of a simple mini-game where you have to collect the most bubbles, while avoiding some fire logs, which might not be the best level ever (even in this game), but could end up being a nice distraction while playing with some friends.

Then there's the co-op, which is a nice mixture of actually cooperating and competition. You rely on your friends to help you out in the levels, and are basically going through the level together, but at the same time, you can have competitions to see who can collect the most of those bubbles (we've already seen that one mini-game based on this, I can imagine some other better levels based on this aspect as well), racing, and some other possibilities.

Then there's the level creator. Sure, this has been done before. But it does add a lot to this game, and possibly the best thing about it for many people. For one thing, it can give creative people something to do outside of the platforming, and showing off their skills as a level designer. It can also add a lot of replayability. Not everybody will end up using this part of the game, but almost everybody will end up benefiting from it, due to the limitless number of levels that they can play. This could be a bit flawed if not done right, either making it too complicated, or making it too basic, but from what I've seen of the level creator, it is done extremely well, so that it's easy to use, gives you incentive to play through the actual game to unlock some features for it, and not being too restrictive. And if you aren't satisfied with a specific part of the level while actually playing through it, you can edit it on the spot, without having to switch to a different mode in the game, making it quick and accessible to many people.

Could it flop? Of course it could. Any game could. Does it look shallow? Sometimes, but again it depends on the creator of the level. Some of the levels look very fun to play through, and not shallow at all. At least that's my opinion on what I've seen so far, and I don't even have a PS3. But this is one game that might push me towards getting one, at least eventually. But obviously it's not for everybody. No game is, and if it's not your kind of game, then that's fine. I just love the idea of it.

This game isn't being advertised as a a deep platformer. It's an accessible creation tool with entertaining, instantly gratifying platforming. According to most previews, the game is gold.project343

I bet it will be boring after the first couple of days, of doing the same thigns over and over again. It's like "linerider" game online, its fun, but its the same stuff over and over again and people will lose interest fast, while others will create neat stuff, just not the majority.

Honestly, Little Big Planet's gameplay looks highly unimpressive. The level designing is sweet, but I'm seriously doubting how much fun the gameplay will be. I see it the same way I saw Spore, except I'm still actually very interested in the game. It's like this for either Spore or Little Big Planet:

*Shows extremely boring gameplay video that isn't fun, original, deep, or challenging in any way whatsoever.*

Everyone that isn't me: WHOA! OMGODZ! GAME OF THE YEAR! The gameplay looks like so much fun!

Me: What in God's ****ing name is so great about this game, other than the designing aspects?

Little Big Planet is definitely on my radar, but it still has to prove itself. I'm so unimpressed with the gameplay as of right now.

DeathScape666

What's your issue with the gameplay?

I think it looks very good. I like how you can move between the different planes, and I think pulling and grabbing on things can lead to cool stuff. Swinging using the grab mechanic is a nice idea. And I love the idea of going through levels co-operatively while trying to get the most pickups. Reminds me of Four Swords, in a way, which is good.

I mean, it's a platformer. Where's the problem? What do you think is missing? I'm not going to say it's better, but where is it severely lacking compared to a 2D Mario game?

Judging by press impressions, the game plays well, and the level designer means any shortcoming outside the basic controls can (and will) be addressed by the users. It might not set the world on fire (though I think it'll be very successful commercially), but there is no doubt in my mind that this game is going to be fun.

MAn o man if this flops.....not saying it will probably not but if it does prepare for the onslaught of rage and fanboy anger about to ensue. For the reviewers sake i hope they get the review right. I can see it now if LBP gets 6.0 the number of topics with 300+ posts all saying how the reviewer was wrong. Heck if this happened to Halo i would laugh. lets see wat this gets when it releases.

MAn o man if this flops.....not saying it will probably not but if it does prepare for the onslaught of rage and fanboy anger about to ensue. For the reviewers sake i hope they get the review right. I can see it now if LBP gets 6.0 the number of topics with 300+ posts all saying how the reviewer was wrong. Heck if this happened to Halo i would laugh. lets see wat this gets when it releases.

hak145

oh man..imagine if This and Killzone 2 flopped..

SW would blow up...

no I am tired of LBP being brought up, SPECIALLY on the topic of GOTY, which this year has Fable 2, Banjo Threeie, Gears 2, Tales of Vesperia, GTA4, Ninja gaiden 2, ect..

supermechakirby

Translation: "I only own a 360 and only one of the games on my system deserves GOTY and if it is on another system it doesn't even deserve consideration."

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no I am tired of LBP being brought up, SPECIALLY on the topic of GOTY, which this year has Fable 2, Banjo Threeie, Gears 2, Tales of Vesperia, GTA4, Ninja gaiden 2, ect..

CajunShooter

Translation: "I only own a 360 and only one of the games on my system deserves GOTY and if it is on another system it doesn't even deserve consideration."

Fable 2, Banjo and Gears are all more deserving than LBP.

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no I am tired of LBP being brought up, SPECIALLY on the topic of GOTY, which this year has Fable 2, Banjo Threeie, Gears 2, Tales of Vesperia, GTA4, Ninja gaiden 2, ect..

CajunShooter

Translation: "I only own a 360 and only one of the games on my system deserves GOTY and if it is on another system it doesn't even deserve consideration."

ding ding ding :lol:

How can the gameplay be shallow in a game where you essentially create your own gameplay? It's only as "shallow" as you make it.Teufelhuhn

And that's the biggest obstical of LBP!

This game is directed heavily at the casuals. But the thing is, IMO, I don't think casuals got the brain power to design some great levels. If nobody start to design level up worth a damn, then the game will easily fails! Sure, there will be some hardcore gamers who will go the distance and design some fantastic levels, but if the casuals just mess around with the single player then quits........

And then, you have no doubt some idiots will do this (Remember "Sporn?), some jack-offs will certaintly design something like, Penor enter the Vaganagina level (you know what I mean). If you don't believe this, just hit youtube and type in, Banjo Kazooie rated M? and see all the "Mature" contents that Rare underhandedly entered into the game (including an Ouija Board and a piece of rock that look like a certain part of the female anatomy and a penor pointing at it!)

STuff like this usually make anyone cringe! I still remember the original Perfect Dark Gameboy Camera fiasco! It worked great until a jack@$$ farked it up!

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[QUOTE="tccavey2"]I cannot WAIT till this game flops. It will be a gloooooorius day in SW.rockguy92

Most people wouldnt be here talking about LBP, they'd be playing it

first sign of a bad review and all cows would removes ANY mention of LBP from their sig

I look forward to seeing your sig dissapeer

Remember when you were hyping Too Human AAAA?

Also, where's the PS4?

yea but I lost interest well before the demo came out, to me it didnt look like any changes were being made like dyack promised, I expected more, I have been trying to give away this damn union for awhile too..

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point being previews are NEVER a good gauge on a games final quality

Hewkii

I really hope you haven't praised Fallout 3 at all.

nope, I havnt even really seen any videos of it either, just the initial one

Way t go TC 170+ responses and still nobody has proven you wrong...AlphaGamer469

When did he prove himself right?

I'm not saying that it will or that it will increase how much fun I have with the game but it would be even more funny if it ot a 10 and watch the fallout like MGS4.FragTycoon

That was pretty funny though.

I haven't seen the person in my sig since.

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"] Way t go TC 170+ responses and still nobody has proven you wrong...sonicmj1

When did he prove himself right?

Didn't you hear? Opinons=facts now :roll:

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no I am tired of LBP being brought up, SPECIALLY on the topic of GOTY, which this year has Fable 2, Banjo Threeie, Gears 2, Tales of Vesperia, GTA4, Ninja gaiden 2, ect..

SSCyborg

Translation: "I only own a 360 and only one of the games on my system deserves GOTY and if it is on another system it doesn't even deserve consideration."

Fable 2, Banjo and Gears are all more deserving than LBP.

LBP is pretty much the definition of depth when it comes to creating your own levels, but i'm worried about depth of the actual gameplay itself. Originally we saw levels where you had to find ways to progress via physics, where the terrain was a puzzle in itself. We haven't been seeing so much of that it seems so I hope we see more interesting levels.

So while the game itself cannot be shallow, maybe its platforming is?

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"] Way t go TC 170+ responses and still nobody has proven you wrong...sonicmj1

When did he prove himself right?

So you with the Kratos banner in your sig -- wnat to play dress up with rag DOLLS? This is appealing to you?

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[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"] Way t go TC 170+ responses and still nobody has proven you wrong...elpoep

When did he prove himself right?

So you with the Kratos banner in your sig -- wnat to play dress up with rag DOLLS? This is appealing to you?

LBP is about more than creating individualized characters. But of course, if anything is in anyone similar to "play" that we associate with the female gender, then of course you can't play it. And, you know, creativity when it comes to creating your own characters should be frowned upon as well. You should never play games where you get to dress up your characters, its really beneath the male gender, who, btw, are the only ones who play videogames.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]I'm not saying that it will or that it will increase how much fun I have with the game but it would be even more funny if it ot a 10 and watch the fallout like MGS4.sakura_Ex

That was pretty funny though.

I haven't seen the person in my sig since.

I dont think it will but it would be hella funny to see fanboys saying "still no AAAE for PS3" lmao

Yeah you have a good point about Little Big Planet being shallow, especially when you compare this platformer game to other platforming games like Braid for example. Anyone who played Braid knows how creative and unique the puzzle solving elements are.

And by watching these LBP gamplay vids, it does looks shallow, since all you see is the puzzle solving on how or where to jump to get to a higher platform. It's like all you do is push this so you could jump on that, pull this so you could jump on that, and wait till this thing swings closer so you could jump on that.

But who knows, people might like those simple elements and have fun with it. I prefer more brain challenging puzzle elements like what they have in Braid in a platforming game anyday.

Yeah you have a good point about Little Big Planet being shallow, especially when you compare this platformer game to other platforming games like Braid for example. Anyone who played Braid knows how creative and unique the puzzle solving elements are.

And by watching these LBP gamplay vids, it does looks shallow, since all you see is the puzzle solving on how or where to jump to get to a higher platform. It's like all you do is push this so you could jump on that, pull this so you could jump on that, and wait till this thing swings closer so you could jump on that.

But who knows, people might like those simple elements and have fun with it. I prefer more brain challenging puzzle elements like what they have in Braid in a platforming game anyday.

ReverseCycology

wow you dare raise a good point against LBP? don't you know this game is infallible in every way? look at how cute sack boy is!

Yeah you have a good point about Little Big Planet being shallow, especially when you compare this platformer game to other platforming games like Braid for example. Anyone who played Braid knows how creative and unique the puzzle solving elements are.

And by watching these LBP gamplay vids, it does looks shallow, since all you see is the puzzle solving on how or where to jump to get to a higher platform. It's like all you do is push this so you could jump on that, pull this so you could jump on that, and wait till this thing swings closer so you could jump on that.

But who knows, people might like those simple elements and have fun with it. I prefer more brain challenging puzzle elements like what they have in Braid in a platforming game anyday.

ReverseCycology

Good point. Early on there seemed like there were going to be harder "puzzles" to progress, but I'm not so sure anymore.

I'm confident that I could create something I little tougher though. ;)

the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gamesupermechakirby

whens the last time you played this game? o yeah never! i hate gears of war all u do i kill locust with ur gun. so shallow.

Yeah you have a good point about Little Big Planet being shallow, especially when you compare this platformer game to other platforming games like Braid for example. Anyone who played Braid knows how creative and unique the puzzle solving elements are.

And by watching these LBP gamplay vids, it does looks shallow, since all you see is the puzzle solving on how or where to jump to get to a higher platform. It's like all you do is push this so you could jump on that, pull this so you could jump on that, and wait till this thing swings closer so you could jump on that.

But who knows, people might like those simple elements and have fun with it. I prefer more brain challenging puzzle elements like what they have in Braid in a platforming game anyday.

ReverseCycology

i know right. those later levels were really easy because i already beat this game! i wish it had more puzzles. its not like u can make ur own u know.

[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gamenippon_gamer

whens the last time you played this game? o yeah never! i hate gears of war all u do i kill locust with ur gun. so shallow.

and when did YOU play it to praise it endlessly? :

Yeah you have a good point about Little Big Planet being shallow, especially when you compare this platformer game to other platforming games like Braid for example. Anyone who played Braid knows how creative and unique the puzzle solving elements are.

And by watching these LBP gamplay vids, it does looks shallow, since all you see is the puzzle solving on how or where to jump to get to a higher platform. It's like all you do is push this so you could jump on that, pull this so you could jump on that, and wait till this thing swings closer so you could jump on that.

But who knows, people might like those simple elements and have fun with it. I prefer more brain challenging puzzle elements like what they have in Braid in a platforming game anyday.

ReverseCycology

you forgot one thing, levels shown in LBP might look shallow but its up to those who buy LBP to challenge their creativity and if you think the puzzles are simple, why not get the game and create levels with some intriguing and tough puzzles to solve???

This is whats funny when people bash LBP for being shallow or in this case simple... LBP is not like other platformers where you have a fixed no. of levels you have to go through, LBP has some levels with which the game comes, but if LBP sells 1 million copies, you potentially have 1 million 'amateur devs' who will do their best to create interesting levels to share with everyone...

LBP is not shallow or simple because that would mean that gamers' creativity would be simple since its only creativity that can limit what one can possibly do with creating levels in LBP...

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yea try to change the subject, but with the flops this year there have also been great 360 games, not to mention how great XBLA is doing

blushield

Still flops, and the highest rated 360 exclusives this year have been AA which isn't really impressive

LBP (quite frankly) looks far better than anything on the 360 this year and the impressions from games journalists have been unanimously positive. I think I'll take their word over a member of the "Too Human Union" :lol:

the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gamesupermechakirby

You haven't seen enough vids probably..

And why are people calling simplistic games shallow now, me and my friends were crazy about Mario, Sonic, and oldschool scrollers back then and now people bash that type of gameplay? Seems to me that many people are just expecting a game that the developers never planned for nowadays.

[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gametmntPunchout

You haven't seen enough vids probably..

And why are people calling simplistic games shallow now, me and my friends were crazy about Mario, Sonic, and oldschool scrollers back then and now people bash that type of gameplay? Seems to me that many people are just expecting a game that the developers never planned for nowadays.

well you have to understand that we're in SW and mostly the people bashing LBP are non PS3 owners... They saw a few vids showing a few levels and from that they deducted that the gameplay is shallow and simplistic... for me its fun and entertaining... we havent seen all the levels and probably never will since with the ability of each gamer creating his/her own levels we shall see a huge amount of content coming up and many levels to share... Sure most of them will be crap (like my first attempts probably) but surely there are gamers out there with talent and creativity who will surely create some interesting levels

imo COD4 is more shallow than LBP

from what I've seen so far

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[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gameMalta_1980

You haven't seen enough vids probably..

And why are people calling simplistic games shallow now, me and my friends were crazy about Mario, Sonic, and oldschool scrollers back then and now people bash that type of gameplay? Seems to me that many people are just expecting a game that the developers never planned for nowadays.

well you have to understand that we're in SW and mostly the people bashing LBP are non PS3 owners... They saw a few vids showing a few levels and from that they deducted that the gameplay is shallow and simplistic... for me its fun and entertaining... we havent seen all the levels and probably never will since with the ability of each gamer creating his/her own levels we shall see a huge amount of content coming up and many levels to share... Sure most of them will be crap (like my first attempts probably) but surely there are gamers out there with talent and creativity who will surely create some interesting levels

Yeah, I know. This is Spppa.. err System wars.

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[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gamesupermechakirby

whens the last time you played this game? o yeah never! i hate gears of war all u do i kill locust with ur gun. so shallow.

and when did YOU play it to praise it endlessly? :

when did i do that? i never jumped to final conclusions, which u seemed to have done in this thred.

XBOX FANBOI: TC is right! LBP looks like a piece of ****!!!!!

PS3 FANBOI: LBP = GotY no doubt!!!!!

-sig

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yea try to change the subject, but with the flops this year there have also been great 360 games, not to mention how great XBLA is doing

blushield

Still flops, and the highest rated 360 exclusives this year have been AA which isn't really impressive

LBP (quite frankly) looks far better than anything on the 360 this year and the impressions from games journalists have been unanimously positive. I think I'll take their word over a member of the "Too Human Union" :lol:

*Too Human Union OWNER

all those unions in my sig I am the leader of...

[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gametmntPunchout

You haven't seen enough vids probably..

And why are people calling simplistic games shallow now, me and my friends were crazy about Mario, Sonic, and oldschool scrollers back then and now people bash that type of gameplay? Seems to me that many people are just expecting a game that the developers never planned for nowadays.

One word. Envy.

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[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]the game looks very shallow in the gameplay department, the equivalent of screwing around in forge in halo 3, and that got boring quick


all the footage I have seen, the majority of it was just that dumb sackboy making faces and trying to be cute or some dumb little scene which shows no actual point to the gameZoso-8

You haven't seen enough vids probably..

And why are people calling simplistic games shallow now, me and my friends were crazy about Mario, Sonic, and oldschool scrollers back then and now people bash that type of gameplay? Seems to me that many people are just expecting a game that the developers never planned for nowadays.

One word. Envy.

I DO NOT Envy Little Big Planet, do not want, thats a lame argument