Sheep and Cows are done, Microsoft Releases 99 Dollar 360.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

why in dawkin's name would anyone pay $99 up front and agree to a $15/month 2-year contract for a seven-year-old console

$459 down the drain

santoron

Why would anybody agree to a contract phone? Convenience/Low upfront costs.

it won't work for consoles. cell phones are now a part of everyday life and a necessity in the modern world. consoles are not, and thus contracts will not be more enticing than the upfront costprinceofshapeir

I agree that consoles are less important in terms of everyday life, but, as we have seen, entertainment is an important factor in an individual's life. The price plan is applicable across multiple models. In essence, console sales (via this plan) will essentially be less, as opposed to smartphone sales.

I don't know why anyone would think this is a good deal, this is bad news though. If this succeeds you can bet MS will implement this in their next Xbox as the only pay option, and Lems would eat it up too.

They migth say "people won't defend it, they are smarter" well people defend paying for online gaming and they even defended it again when they raised the price of XBL (which they will no doubt raise again in the future, they will no doubt bend over and defend this.

This is just the test run, if it takes off you will see it implemented in the next system. And you Lems only have yourselves to blame for it when it happens.

ShadowMoses900

You mean my Galaxy 2,which runs an open OS that has a dual core CPU and more ram than the xbox 360,can video chat,play games cheaper,online free,can make calls,use GPU to find locations,is portable and allow me to even download movies or series without even needing to have netflix is a waste.?tormentos

Did I state that "tormentos will find a smartphone on a 3 year plan to be a waste"? Not only is your argument innaccurate, but it is stupid. STFU and go to your corner.

the thing is almost 7 years old it should just be $99 straight up at this point.

ugh, the 360s popularity stinks.

i thought i was just going to blow through another 5 year gen not get married and die of old age with the same system.

nice job cows, your superpowers of being incredibly wrong about things worked so well that you have made the 360 last forever.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]You mean my Galaxy 2,which runs an open OS that has a dual core CPU and more ram than the xbox 360,can video chat,play games cheaper,online free,can make calls,use GPU to find locations,is portable and allow me to even download movies or series without even needing to have netflix is a waste.?lundy86_4

Did I state that "tormentos will find a smartphone on a 3 year plan to be a waste"? Not only is your argument innaccurate, but it is stupid. STFU and go to your corner.

Not even close samsung alone sold 93 million phones this past trimester,MS has almost 7 years selling 360 and they haven't reach 80 millions.tormentos

Where did I say that console sales = phone sales?

The difference being that most people are paying the same phone bill whether they're getting a subsidized phone or not. My contract expired almost a year ago, and my bill didn't magically lower since I elected to keep my current phone for the time being. Paying a super inflated live price for 2 years is a whole different matter. santoron

I don't understand (largely because i'm drunk), but are you saying that Live prices won't deflate at the end of the term? Monthly fees are obviously inflated to cover the cost of the phone (which makes sense). I can't comment on whether prices will deflate (though I assume you could cancel at the end of the term, and simply re-up to a regular priced Live).

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't know why anyone would think this is a good deal, this is bad news though. If this succeeds you can bet MS will implement this in their next Xbox as the only pay option, and Lems would eat it up too.

They migth say "people won't defend it, they are smarter" well people defend paying for online gaming and they even defended it again when they raised the price of XBL (which they will no doubt raise again in the future, they will no doubt bend over and defend this.

This is just the test run, if it takes off you will see it implemented in the next system. And you Lems only have yourselves to blame for it when it happens.

tormentos

That's what you would like to think, but I don't think the average consumer is very intelligent. Especially the gaming one, they put up with crap that no other consumer market would accept.

People said the same thing about XBL, they said no one would be dumb enough to pay for online gaming, and look what happened? They even defended it when they raised the price. People will flock to this like idiots as well no doubt.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]You mean my Galaxy 2,which runs an open OS that has a dual core CPU and more ram than the xbox 360,can video chat,play games cheaper,online free,can make calls,use GPU to find locations,is portable and allow me to even download movies or series without even needing to have netflix is a waste.?tormentos

Did I state that "tormentos will find a smartphone on a 3 year plan to be a waste"? Not only is your argument innaccurate, but it is stupid. STFU and go to your corner.

My bad :lol:

I'm drunk... It's hard to discern.

$99 up front = good.

$14.99 a month subscription =:lol:.

$460 Xbox, and the sh!tty one too.

Plus a $250 early termination fee.

What a good deal....FOR MORONS!

Keep convincing yourselves that this is a good deal. MS has you douchbags brainwashed so bad it is pathetic.

This is so funny. I knew the idiots would come out in droves to defend this typical Microsoft prison rape tactic.

I don't know why anyone would think this is a good deal, this is bad news though. If this succeeds you can bet MS will implement this in their next Xbox as the only pay option, and Lems would eat it up too.

They migth say "people won't defend it, they are smarter" well people defend paying for online gaming and they even defended it again when they raised the price of XBL (which they will no doubt raise again in the future, they will no doubt bend over and defend this.

This is just the test run, if it takes off you will see it implemented in the next system. And you Lems only have yourselves to blame for it when it happens.

ShadowMoses900

the thing is almost 7 years old it should just be $99 straight up at this point.

ugh, the 360s popularity stinks.

i thought i was just going to blow through another 5 year gen not get married and die of old age with the same system.

nice job cows, your superpowers of being incredibly wrong about things worked so well that you have made the 360 last forever.

Riverwolf007

MS preying on the ill informed?? OMG my kid has wanted an Xbox forever $99 with Kinect I'm sold!!!! What $15 a month charge for two years wtf!!!! Either that or it'll cater to the type that can't afford it like loan stores or cash advance do. I think it'll prolly do great in NA. People are dumb and think small initial price with getting nickeled and dimed over time for more is better than a larger upfront cost.meluvulongtime8

$99 up front = good.

$14.99 a month subscription =:lol:.

jimkabrhel

My thoughts exactly. Who would...I mean...:|

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Did I state that "tormentos will find a smartphone on a 3 year plan to be a waste"? Not only is your argument innaccurate, but it is stupid. STFU and go to your corner.

lundy86_4

My bad :lol:

I'm drunk... It's hard to discern.

On a Monday damn i envy you...loltormentos

Worked 16 hours on Sat, and 7 today... Day off tomorrow :P

[QUOTE="meluvulongtime8"]MS preying on the ill informed?? OMG my kid has wanted an Xbox forever $99 with Kinect I'm sold!!!! What $15 a month charge for two years wtf!!!! Either that or it'll cater to the type that can't afford it like loan stores or cash advance do. I think it'll prolly do great in NA. People are dumb and think small initial price with getting nickeled and dimed over time for more is better than a larger upfront cost.kuraimen

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Not even close samsung alone sold 93 million phones this past trimester,MS has almost 7 years selling 360 and they haven't reach 80 millions.lundy86_4

Where did I say that console sales = phone sales?

The difference being that most people are paying the same phone bill whether they're getting a subsidized phone or not. My contract expired almost a year ago, and my bill didn't magically lower since I elected to keep my current phone for the time being. Paying a super inflated live price for 2 years is a whole different matter. santoron

I don't understand (largely because i'm drunk), but are you saying that Live prices won't deflate at the end of the term? Monthly fees are obviously inflated to cover the cost of the phone (which makes sense). I can't comment on whether prices will deflate (though I assume you could cancel at the end of the term, and simply re-up to a regular priced Live).

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

the thing is almost 7 years old it should just be $99 straight up at this point.

ugh, the 360s popularity stinks.

i thought i was just going to blow through another 5 year gen not get married and die of old age with the same system.

nice job cows, your superpowers of being incredibly wrong about things worked so well that you have made the 360 last forever.

tormentos

i'm kinda sick of the consoles at this point hell at this point i hardly even see the games anymore.

all i see is all the middleware and crap that makes them.

a new game trailer releases and i'm sitting there saying to myself. "ho-hum another unreal engine, phys-x, renderware, ect ect ect... yawn."

The point I was making is that Monthly phone bills aren't raised if you get a new phone from your service provider, you pay the same price for your services whether you buy a phone outright or get one subsidized from them. The only advantage of paying full retail for your phone is if you plan on switching providers before a 2 year contract term expires, so it makes financial sense to get a phone on the cheap for most people. The Xbox deal is more like home shopping network, or rent to own stores. You're paying a smaller price up front, but end up paying much more than if you bought from a regular retailer. santoron

Very true. I can only assume that the monthly prices remain consistently increased, or the initial phone prices allow a regular phone plan to cover the cost of giving the phone out on contract.

I doubt hte service providers are giving phones out at cost. It's reasonable to assume that their services (i.e. Data, Minutes, Messages) are severely overpriced.

I still don't how benetiful it this is. I already have a 360 so no interest in this.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="meluvulongtime8"]MS preying on the ill informed?? OMG my kid has wanted an Xbox forever $99 with Kinect I'm sold!!!! What $15 a month charge for two years wtf!!!! Either that or it'll cater to the type that can't afford it like loan stores or cash advance do. I think it'll prolly do great in NA. People are dumb and think small initial price with getting nickeled and dimed over time for more is better than a larger upfront cost.Ravensmash

TLHBO

M$ ripping peeps off all the way to the bank.

this is dumb. I really hope it fails. $15 a month for live and a 2 year contract? Ripoff mems_1224

So where is the catch?

People who do this are seriously stupid. Could get the same thing through amazon for $381.

Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Xbox 360/4GB/Kinect/Kinect Sports/Kinect Adventures/3 Months of X-Box Live: $299.99

12 Month X-Box Live Subscription: $48.41 x 2: $96.82

Total: $396.81

Not only do you get get everything Microsoft is offering for $62.19 cheaper, but you also get an extra three months of X-Box Live, and two Kinect games to play. I really do not understand the point of Microsoft's bundle: not only is it rediciously expensive for a console that is seven years old and on its death bed, (hell even $300 for an X-Box with Kinect is rediculously overpriced it should be no more than $200 with Kinect or $100 without it), but if a lower income family cannot afford an X-Box 360 at the moment or after a few months of saving to the point where this bundle might be worth it, they probably could not afford any games. If you want an X-Box 360 THAT baddly this late in the generation, buy one used for far less money or just save your money for the X-Box Next, as by time it comes out you will have plenty of money to afford it day one, and it will likely be backwards compatable with Xbox 360 games and Kinect.

Also, considering this is clearly a market test and only available in the 16 Microsoft stores across the United States, I'd say that the fearmongering in here about "everyone being screwed" is a tad rushed.Ravensmash

YES A LITTLE PARANOID

Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Xbox 360/4GB/Kinect/Kinect Sports/Kinect Adventures/3 Months of X-Box Live: $299.99

12 Month X-Box Live Subscription: $48.41 x 2: $96.82

Total: $396.81

Not only do you get get everything Microsoft is offering for $62.19 cheaper, but you also get an extra three months of X-Box Live, and two Kinect games to play. I really do not understand the point of Microsoft's bundle: not only is it rediciously expensive for a console that is seven years old and on its death bed, (hell even $300 for an X-Box with Kinect is rediculously overpriced it should be no more than $200 with Kinect or $100 without it), but if a lower income family cannot afford an X-Box 360 at the moment or after a few months of saving to the point where this bundle might be worth it, they probably could not afford any games. If you want an X-Box 360 THAT baddly this late in the generation, buy one used for far less money or just save your money for the X-Box Next, as by time it comes out you will have plenty of money to afford it day one, and it will likely be backwards compatable with Xbox 360 games and Kinect.

DarkGamer007

WHATS THE TAX ON THAT?

People who do this are seriously stupid. Could get the same thing through amazon for $381.

Chutebox

yeah anyone who uses a CC with a 12 percent interest rate is seriously stupid, i know you dont have a creditcard

Not to beat a dead horse, but...

Xbox 360/4GB/Kinect/Kinect Sports/Kinect Adventures/3 Months of X-Box Live: $299.99

12 Month X-Box Live Subscription: $48.41 x 2: $96.82

Total: $396.81

Not only do you get get everything Microsoft is offering for $62.19 cheaper, but you also get an extra three months of X-Box Live, and two Kinect games to play. I really do not understand the point of Microsoft's bundle: not only is it rediciously expensive for a console that is seven years old and on its death bed, (hell even $300 for an X-Box with Kinect is rediculously overpriced it should be no more than $200 with Kinect or $100 without it), but if a lower income family cannot afford an X-Box 360 at the moment or after a few months of saving to the point where this bundle might be worth it, they probably could not afford any games. If you want an X-Box 360 THAT baddly this late in the generation, buy one used for far less money or just save your money for the X-Box Next, as by time it comes out you will have plenty of money to afford it day one, and it will likely be backwards compatable with Xbox 360 games and Kinect.

DarkGamer007

So where is the catch?

omho88

nothing its a good deal, 99 upfront, you dont pay taxes like u would on a retail purchase, you get a 2 year warranty built in, and its 15 dollars month for 24 months i believe without interest. Cows are a little nervous, SOny will probably be doing the same thing, but then everyone will love it and its great since this place is infested with pathetic last place loser cows. and oh yeah delusional hermits as well, DEAL WITH IT

Microsoft should have had it at $15 with a 3 year subscription. That would have been great.

I don't know why anyone would think this is a good deal, this is bad news though. If this succeeds you can bet MS will implement this in their next Xbox as the only pay option, and Lems would eat it up too.

They migth say "people won't defend it, they are smarter" well people defend paying for online gaming and they even defended it again when they raised the price of XBL (which they will no doubt raise again in the future, they will no doubt bend over and defend this.

This is just the test run, if it takes off you will see it implemented in the next system. And you Lems only have yourselves to blame for it when it happens.

ShadowMoses900

you know someone is stupid when they try and say that Microsoft will use this method as their only option. I mean cows fear mongering is pathetic as tripping an old lady with a cane

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

People who do this are seriously stupid. Could get the same thing through amazon for $381.

ForzaGearsFace

yeah anyone who uses a CC with a 12 percent interest rate is seriously stupid, i know you dont have a creditcard

[QUOTE="omho88"]

So where is the catch?

ForzaGearsFace

nothing its a good deal, 99 upfront, you dont pay taxes like u would on a retail purchase, you get a 2 year warranty built in, and its 15 dollars month for 24 months i believe without interest. Cows are a little nervous, SOny will probably be doing the same thing, but then everyone will love it and its great since this place is infested with pathetic last place loser cows. and oh yeah delusional hermits as well, DEAL WITH IT

It is basically a loan program.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

People who do this are seriously stupid. Could get the same thing through amazon for $381.

Chutebox

yeah anyone who uses a CC with a 12 percent interest rate is seriously stupid, i know you dont have a creditcard

yep calling me a child for exposing your stupidity, just like ole times.

>you know someone is stupid when they try and say that Microsoft will use this method as their only option. I mean cows fear mongering is pathetic as tripping an old lady with a caneForzaGearsFace

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

yeah anyone who uses a CC with a 12 percent interest rate is seriously stupid, i know you dont have a creditcard

ForzaGearsFace

yep calling me a child for exposing your stupidity, just like ole times.