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#1 afdevil24
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I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)
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#2 yoshi-lnex
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system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

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If you were the only one who owned a 360, no games would come out for it. :|

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#5 Koolsen
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System sales do matter. If the 360 sold only a handful of units developers would drop it so fast. The PS2 got so many games because it sold so much. Get it?
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#6 billing
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System sales are the only thing that excites sheeps.

90% of all sheeps own either a 360 or PS3 to fill their Nex-Gen needs.

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#7 afdevil24
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system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

yoshi-lnex

yes, but because nintendo has a much better reputation and also been in the industry longer than MS, with the $250 price tag, and appeals to any audience, they have the other hand. it's like comparing an FPS to an RPG.

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#8 afdevil24
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System sales do matter. If the 360 sold only a handful of units developers would drop it so fast. The PS2 got so many games because it sold so much. Get it?Koolsen

i understand, by must we discuss it so much? does it make the system any better in our eyes?

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System sales do matter. If the 360 sold only a handful of units developers would drop it so fast. The PS2 got so many games because it sold so much. Get it?Koolsen
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#10 Koolsen
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[QUOTE="Koolsen"]System sales do matter. If the 360 sold only a handful of units developers would drop it so fast. The PS2 got so many games because it sold so much. Get it?afdevil24

i understand, by must we discuss it so much? does it make the system any better in our eyes?

It shows generally how well the systems are doing. If we judged by review score exclusively it would be subjective which one is winning. With sales it concrete which console is doing the best.
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#11 Lefund
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Well, quite honestly, it is kind of refershing for a Nintendo Home Console to be selling so well and why shouldn't we, we have been pwned by the same thing for so long, all we know is sells = good product and people like the product which we so aggressivly endorse.  Its not like the lemmings or cows are any more mauture about anything.
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#12 Michael85
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I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)afdevil24

If you were the only one with a 360 in the world, you wouldn't have games to enjoy.

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#13 Sooshy
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We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)afdevil24
So because everyone knows it's true, it doesn't count? It doesn't work like that, man.
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[QUOTE="afdevil24"]I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)Michael85

If you were the only one with a 360 in the world, you wouldn't have games to enjoy.

i would make them myself. j.k

 

Well, quite honestly, it is kind of refershing for a Nintendo Home Console to be selling so well and why shouldn't we, we have been pwned by the same thing for so long, all we know is sells = good product and people like the product which we so aggressivly endorse.  Its not like the lemmings or cows are any more mauture about anything.Lefund

i jsut think it's kind of weak but there is no convincing sheep is there;)

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What would you like to discuss in System Wars then?
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#16 afdevil24
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What would you like to discuss in System Wars then?nobeaner

i don't know, how about cheesecake?

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[QUOTE="nobeaner"]What would you like to discuss in System Wars then?afdevil24

i don't know, how about cheesecake?

....

Yup, he's fat alright

 

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#18 ScalIywag
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I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)afdevil24

However when Xbox 360 was only console out and selling well, you did care.  Right?!?

 

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#20 afdevil24
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[QUOTE="afdevil24"]I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)ScalIywag

However when Xbox 360 was only console out and selling well, you did care.  Right?!?

no. 

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[QUOTE="nobeaner"]What would you like to discuss in System Wars then?afdevil24

i don't know, how about cheesecake?

 

Sales matter, and i like cheescake, i also like your icon.

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#22 Michael85
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If by "childish", you mean "taking every advantage to rub a legitimate piece of information into other fanboy's faces", then yes, I will agree.

But unless you can prove to me that this behavior is exclusive to the sheep, I suggest you curb your thread-making urges until you think of something worth-while to discuss. 

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#23 FreakyDeacky2
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"sheeps are being kind of childish" Their Nintendo fans..... what'd you expect?

 

I keed i keed.  pestulant troll topic creators....a topic voting system would be cool, where is if was considered a trolling topic the poster couldnt post for x amount of time... or something like that

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#24 MikeE21286
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system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

yoshi-lnex

Too bad there has never been this big of a gap between the first place console and the other consoles in terms of graphics.  Wii will not be the main platform for ANY big 3rd party games.  Do you foresee Wii games being ported to the PS3/360.  Highly unlikely.  The truth of the matter is that Wii is not competing against just the PS3 or 360 individually, but BOTH of them at the same time.  There will be 3rd party games for the Wii, and 3rd party games for the PS3/360. 

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#25 Sooshy
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If by "childish", you mean "taking every advantage to rub a legitimate piece of information into other fanboy's faces", then yes, I will agree.

But unless you can prove to me that this behavior is exclusive to the sheep, I suggest you curb your thread-making urges until you think of something worth-while to discuss.

Michael85
Yeah, I think we can conclude that all fanboys are childish and just leave it at that, huh?
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#26 Homesrfan
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Sorry, but you are the one being childish. We can't use FACT? Don't use popularity to define how good a system is?

This thread fails big time. 

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#27 venture00
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Sheep are acting childish? whoaomg! what a suprise :lol:Hammerofjustice


What about cows last gen? they were bringing up Ps2 sales all the time its that not childish? :roll:
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#28 Sooshy
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Sorry, but you are the one being childish. We can't use FACT? Don't use popularity to define how good a system is?

This thread fails big time.

Homesrfan
I knwo what you're saying, but popularity doesn't necessarily = quality.
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#29 Killfox
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I thought all sheep were children???
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#30 FLSTS
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What do you mean by "sheep"?
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#31 harvie5
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What do you mean by "sheep"?FLSTS

A 360 fanboy. 

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#32 FLSTS
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[QUOTE="FLSTS"]What do you mean by "sheep"?harvie5

A 360 fanboy. 

oh, so you can't kill them?
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#33 n1ntendorevO
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Reviews are bias Gamespot/IGN/ whomever they are all different. Sales are sales. Developers only care about sales not reviews.

 

As people stated if the Wii flopped in sales it would get no third party support kind of like the GC hahaha but if the Wii sells like the ps2 well then expect a lot better support. It only makes perfect sense. Capcom/Namco/EA will come out with there best games on the system that has huge sales. Huge Console Sales = More Buyers = More Games Bought. Its quite simple.

 

Yeah Nintendo fans are getting sick of the OMG Wii graphics BS but they dont stop.

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#34 wavebrid
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System sales are the only thing that excites sheeps.

90% of all sheeps own either a 360 or PS3 to fill their Nex-Gen needs.

billing

if that the case then why is the ps3 no where near wii sales? or 360 sales

90% is wrong

and last time current gen were not into next gen :|

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#35 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="afdevil24"]I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)ScalIywag

However when Xbox 360 was only console out and selling well, you did care.  Right?!?

 

of course why ask this question now since there just going to lie and say no

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#36 yoshi-lnex
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Too bad there has never been this big of a gap between the first place console and the other consoles in terms of graphics.  Wii will not be the main platform for ANY big 3rd party games.  Do you foresee Wii games being ported to the PS3/360.  Highly unlikely. MikeE21286

 If nintendo's system is consistant in delivering better profit, then yes, I could see games being made on the wii first then get "cleaned up" graphically for the other systems. Companys care about profit, and very little else, they follow profit, graphics are irrelivent.

 

The truth of the matter is that Wii is not competing against just the PS3 or 360 individually, but BOTH of them at the same time.  There will be 3rd party games for the Wii, and 3rd party games for the PS3/360.  MikeE21286
that has to do with this how?

 

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#37 General_X
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Well after all the Wii bashing and Wii=flop threads post launch, the sheep now get a little time in the sun since the system seems to be doing incredibly well.
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#38 SapSacPrime
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Creating threads crying about mean sheep bullying you with sales statistics is a sure sign of wisdom :).
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#39 Blackbond
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So what's more childish? Bashing a console based on biased opinions or promotoing your consoles sales which are facts. In a debate the facts win opinions are subjective.
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#40 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

Too bad there has never been this big of a gap between the first place console and the other consoles in terms of graphics.  Wii will not be the main platform for ANY big 3rd party games.  Do you foresee Wii games being ported to the PS3/360.  Highly unlikely. yoshi-lnex

 If nintendo's system is consistant in delivering better profit, then yes, I could see games being made on the wii first then get "cleaned up" graphically for the other systems. Companys care about profit, and very little else, they follow profit, graphics are irrelivent.

 

The truth of the matter is that Wii is not competing against just the PS3 or 360 individually, but BOTH of them at the same time.  There will be 3rd party games for the Wii, and 3rd party games for the PS3/360.  MikeE21286
that has to do with this how?

 

It has to do with it because for devs to take these big franchises over to Wii it's gonna need to have a lot more sales than the combined efforts of the PS3/360. 3rd party titles are moving away from exclusivity in the first place, and devs will see the PS3/360 as essentially one console to sell on and the Wii as the other....for the reasons being they are so vastly differen in terms of hardware.  And also different in the people who buy them.

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#41 ralphikari
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Circular logic! You're saying A=B because B=A.
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#42 caje47
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system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

yoshi-lnex

 

Then how come the PSP is completely dominating the DS in terms of games and is losing in sales? 

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system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

yoshi-lnex

System sales do not = quality games on system.

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#44 axt113
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System sales are the only thing that excites sheeps.

90% of all sheeps own either a 360 or PS3 to fill their Nex-Gen needs.

billing

 

nope just a PC, its all you need 

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#45 axt113
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

caje47

 

Then how come the PSP is completely dominating the DS in terms of games and is losing in sales? 

Because its not, go to japan
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#46 FLSTS
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[QUOTE="caje47"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

axt113

 

Then how come the PSP is completely dominating the DS in terms of games and is losing in sales? 

Because its not, go to japan

agreed but the PSP isn't dominating in America either.
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I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)afdevil24

Can we stop using sales as figures of ownage, please lets be ;. It sys your a level 21 act your level. Sales is all what matters well unless your a lemming or a cow, then i guess it doesn't fall in your favour.  

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#48 carl2tan
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I don't really want to start a flame war, but this whole NPD thing is stupid. I could care less about how much Wii, PS3, or Xbox360 sell. I could be the only one on the world with a 360, and I'd still be enjoying the games as much. Can you we stop using sales figures as ownage? We know Japanese people are crazy over Wii/DS, we also know they hate Xbox360, so stop using that argument also. Thnx :)afdevil24
I think the same way, but in SW we must find every little thing we can to bash they systems we dont have. . LOL

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#49 GundamGuy0
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Preemptive damage control!

 

Sales don't matter because *insert console of choice* is doing terrible.

 

Really sales do matter, and they are something empirical to talk about.

They aren't concrete but more concrete then "fun" or "scores"  

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#50 axt113
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="caje47"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

system sales = games on system

this is a pretty basic fact, and completely valid in discusion.

FLSTS

 

Then how come the PSP is completely dominating the DS in terms of games and is losing in sales? 

Because its not, go to japan

agreed but the PSP isn't dominating in America either.

 

Yeah, but alot of DS games don't get localized in the states because they don't believe that the Americans will want those gamesÂ