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#51 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]

ONLY score that matters on GAMESPOT is GAMESPOT's. if you dont like this RULE then LEAVE.

MikeB_74

Too bad thats an imaginary rule buddy. It makes more sense to go by the average. I'm sure you know that.

sorry no. on gamespot system wars the only score that matter is the one given by gamespot.

Its still an imaginary rule that you're making up so that you can claim ownage. Lemming ingorance.
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#52 molinex
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if your gonna "own" sheep. try doing it with a game they actually care about. Silenthps
it doesn't have to be a hyped game

this even worse Wii is a nexgen system yet it gets beat by the ps2 !:shock:

it that is not ownage in you book i wonder what is?

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#53 Heil68
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so? I didn't even know this game was coming out. Nobody cares about it. A game nobody cares about flopping is much better than a game everybody cares about flopping (lair, HS, BD, etc)hamstergeddon
You forgot MP3, Mario Strykers, Zelda TP and Red Steel
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#54 bri360
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It's the exact same as the PS2 version, just the Wiimote controls are bad.

You can still use classic controls and gamecube controlers.

Homesrfan

Then wth is the point of having a Wii...

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#55 InfinityMugen
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*Sigh* I guess its up to the 1st party to make quality hits. Honeslty I think PS2 is a lot better to own for the time being.
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#57 lettuceman44
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you call this ownage? I never even heard of this game. This makes no sense
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#58 Chipp
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will this ever stop :lol:

i am starting to feel sorry for them!

here is the LINK :shock:

molinex

This review makes no sense, let me tell you why. Its the exact same as the PS2 version. The PS2 version got a 8.5(?). But the Wii got a 5.9 because of the Wiimote controls. This would of been valid IF and I'm going to put IF in bold. The clasic controller couldn't be used, but it can! Thus making it the EXACT same as the PS2 version. lol

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#59 i-lick-monkeys
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I don't get it. How is this ownage?MetroidPrimePwn

the ps2 version score better then the wii.

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#61 Chipp
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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

It's the exact same as the PS2 version, just the Wiimote controls are bad.

You can still use classic controls and gamecube controlers.

bri360

Then wth is the point of having a Wii...

Whats the point of having a analog when you won't use them in fighting games? Which is essentially what you're saying" What is the point in motion controls if you can't use them in fighters". That statement in itself should make you question your perspective regarding it.

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#62 Koolsen
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A New Guilty Gear game came out? When was this even announced?
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#63 manningbowl135
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Most wii games that get bad scores is b/c of the controller. If you look at the PS2 score, you can see that this is a good game, as in story, gameplay is probably good. But since it's bad for wii, it's probably the controller. That's why people are claiming ownage. This may not have been a hyped game, but from PS2's score, it had the potential to be one, but isn't because of the controller.
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#64 hamstergeddon
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just cause a few ppl hyped it that high doesnt mean the marjority did.

fail x10

MikeB_74


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why are we arguing that I didn't include a cou[ple Wii games when the TC has yet to respond why a 'nobody game' scoring low=ownage?

It seems to me like cows are unable to argue the actual argument and instead resort to beating around the bush with trivial things like leaving out a game in a post.  Cows, if you really want to argue, at least argue the topic.
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#65 Chipp
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Most wii games that get bad scores is b/c of the controller. If you look at the PS2 score, you can see that this is a good game, as in story, gameplay is probably good. But since it's bad for wii, it's probably the controller. That's why people are claiming ownage. This may not have been a hyped game, but from PS2's score, it had the potential to be one, but isn't because of the controller. manningbowl135

You can use the classic controller and GCN controller, the game doesn't force you to use motion controls.

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sting
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#67 Private_Vegas
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Thats brutal, but since this is GS, let's wait for GS scores before this s*** storm hits.
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#68 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="MikeB_74"][QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]so? I didn't even know this game was coming out. Nobody cares about it. A game nobody cares about flopping is much better than a game everybody cares about flopping (lair, HS, BD, etc)MikeB_74

then don't use ign's score for ownage

Why leave out Metroid or Red Steel?

Metroid didn't flop buddy. Red Steel did. It was complete crap. But how many months ago was that?

metroid official hype AAA

metroid scored 8.5(AA)

FLOP

Metroid hyped AAA Average Score 91 Not a flop.

ONLY score that matters on GAMESPOT is GAMESPOT's. if you dont like this RULE then LEAVE.

then don't use ign's score for ownage
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#69 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="molinex"]

will this ever stop :lol:

i am starting to feel sorry for them!

here is the LINK :shock:

Ramadear

This review makes no sense, let me tell you why. Its the exact same as the PS2 version. The PS2 version got a 8.5(?). But the Wii got a 5.9 because of the Wiimote controls. This would of been valid IF and I'm going to put IF in bold. The clasic controller couldn't be used, but it can! Thus making it the EXACT same as the PS2 version. lol

Um...the standards are really different. If a next gen console gives you the same exact game as a last gen console, that should give that next gen game a much lower score. So that 5.9 is justified. You're right, without the wiimote, it's the same EXACT game as the PS2 game. Which is why it got such a low score.

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#70 GundamGuy0
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yeah and when u use that other controller and are playing a last gen game equal to a ps2 game where is this so called revolution? its a "great experience" yeah for last gen...if that game came out on ps3 or 360 like that you'd see 6age

blues3531

Your right the Wii was designed to take last gen ports and make them next gen automatically!

It's a last gen game... Oh well. It's the end of the Wii! Judge teh Wii by last gen ports! Woot!

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#71 Chipp
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[QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="molinex"]

will this ever stop :lol:

i am starting to feel sorry for them!

here is the LINK :shock:

manningbowl135

This review makes no sense, let me tell you why. Its the exact same as the PS2 version. The PS2 version got a 8.5(?). But the Wii got a 5.9 because of the Wiimote controls. This would of been valid IF and I'm going to put IF in bold. The clasic controller couldn't be used, but it can! Thus making it the EXACT same as the PS2 version. lol

Um...the standards are really different. If a next gen console gives you the same exact game as a last gen console, that should give that next gen game a much lower score. So that 5.9 is justified. You're right, without the wiimote, it's the same EXACT game as the PS2 game. Which is why it got such a low score.

No thats not it at all. Have you even looked at the review for both the ps2 and Wii version? They both have the exact same scores in all areas EXCEPT the controls. Which is why it scored lower. Please for your sake, think before you post.

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#72 Jaysonguy
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I don't get it. How is this ownage?MetroidPrimePwn

He's mistaken because he failed to read what it said

"if you own a Classic Controller, you might as well stop reading this article and hop over to the PS2 reviewinstead, because if you're fortunate enough to have the controller handy, you'll be having virtually the exact same experience that PS2 owners are having with the game, and it's a great experience. "

So no ownage, more like "problem with reading comprehension"

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#73 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="MikeB_74"]

ONLY score that matters on GAMESPOT is GAMESPOT's. if you dont like this RULE then LEAVE.

DivergeUnify

then don't use ign's score for ownage

Huge Ownage here!

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#75 nintendofreak_2
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just cause a few ppl hyped it that high doesnt mean the marjority did.

fail x10

MikeB_74
And did the majority of sheep hype this?
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#76 AvIdGaMeR444
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let's just wait on manhunt 2GunSmith1_basic

Yes, because Rockstar has really proven to be a great dev for Wii...:|

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/tabletennis/index.html?tag=result;title;0

Wii - 6.5

Xbox 360 - 8.5

"But teh Manhunt 2 will prove worthy on Wii." Keep telling yourself that.

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#77 Soulja_West
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I don't get it. How is this ownage?MetroidPrimePwn

Its ownage because the PS2 version scored way higher than the Wii version.

PS2 version 8.5

Wii version 5.9

And they say the wiimote makes games better :lol:

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#78 nintendofreak_2
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Yes, because Rockstar has really proven to be a great dev for Wii...:|

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/tabletennis/index.html?tag=result;title;0

Wii - 6.5

Xbox 360 - 8.5

"But teh Manhunt 2 will prove worthy on Wii." Keep telling yourself that.

AvIdGaMeR444
The game doesn't seem so bad now does it?
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#79 blues3531
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[QUOTE="blues3531"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

the GS review stated that it made it the definitive version. Were not plugging personal opinions.tbone29

yeah definitive because it had the graphics of the gc version with the content of the ps2 version but they also said the game was almost too easy with the new controls

The Good

Intuitive, elegant controls make playing RE4 a joy all over again.

The Bad

The controls soften the difficulty level a bit

Seems like more of a plus to me...

soften difficulty...its in the bad section man, its good and bad leave it at that

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#80 cyborgjak427
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[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]I don't get it. How is this ownage?Soulja_West

Its ownage because the PS2 version scored way higher than the Wii version.

PS2 version 8.5

Wii version 5.9

And they say the wiimote makes games better :lol:

You don't have to use the Wiimote, it said that there is support for the classic controller for the game in the review.

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#81 Chipp
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[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]I don't get it. How is this ownage?Soulja_West

Its ownage because the PS2 version scored way higher than the Wii version.

PS2 version 8.5

Wii version 5.9

And they say the wiimote makes games better :lol:

"if you own a ****c Controller, you might as well stop reading this article and hop over to the PS2 reviewinstead, because if you're fortunate enough to have the controller handy, you'll be having virtually the exact same experience that PS2 owners are having with the game, and it's a great experience. "

I'm going to go be a idiot and play a 2D fighting game with a analog and complain how bad it is. Seriously only the dpad and arcade stick are good for fighting games. Just like analog is good for something and motion control as well. Point is, only a idiot would consider playing GGXX with the Wiimote. If you are into fighters then I would expect you to have the clasic controller or at least the GCN one.

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#82 AvIdGaMeR444
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Yes, because Rockstar has really proven to be a great dev for Wii...:|

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/tabletennis/index.html?tag=result;title;0

Wii - 6.5

Xbox 360 - 8.5

"But teh Manhunt 2 will prove worthy on Wii." Keep telling yourself that.

nintendofreak_2

The game doesn't seem so bad now does it?

That's just a preview. And Dewy's Adventure had great previews pretty much everywhere...It got a 6.0 here.

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#83 nintendofreak_2
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That's just a preview. And Dewy's Adventure had great previews pretty much everywhere...It got a 6.0 here.

AvIdGaMeR444
A direct quote from the article - "Article: Excerpts from NGamer's glowing review" It's a review.
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#84 Chipp
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Yes, because Rockstar has really proven to be a great dev for Wii...:|

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/tabletennis/index.html?tag=result;title;0

Wii - 6.5

Xbox 360 - 8.5

"But teh Manhunt 2 will prove worthy on Wii." Keep telling yourself that.

AvIdGaMeR444

The game doesn't seem so bad now does it?

That's just a preview. And Dewy's Adventure had great previews pretty much everywhere...It got a 6.0 here.

"The magazine gave the Wii version an impressive 92%." Its a review.

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#85 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="molinex"]

will this ever stop :lol:

i am starting to feel sorry for them!

here is the LINK :shock:

Ramadear

This review makes no sense, let me tell you why. Its the exact same as the PS2 version. The PS2 version got a 8.5(?). But the Wii got a 5.9 because of the Wiimote controls. This would of been valid IF and I'm going to put IF in bold. The clasic controller couldn't be used, but it can! Thus making it the EXACT same as the PS2 version. lol

Um...the standards are really different. If a next gen console gives you the same exact game as a last gen console, that should give that next gen game a much lower score. So that 5.9 is justified. You're right, without the wiimote, it's the same EXACT game as the PS2 game. Which is why it got such a low score.

No thats not it at all. Have you even looked at the review for both the ps2 and Wii version? They both have the exact same scores in all areas EXCEPT the controls. Which is why it scored lower. Please for your sake, think before you post.

Have you looked at what it says? " If you have the clasic Controller though, you're basically getting the PS2 experience which is a great time." - You think a PS2 experience on the wii deserves 8.5? Then your standards for this gen is way too low.

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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]so? I didn't even know this game was coming out. Nobody cares about it. A game nobody cares about flopping is much better than a game everybody cares about flopping (lair, HS, BD, etc)Heil68
You forgot MP3, Mario Strykers, Zelda TP and Red Steel

Actuallyfanboy,MetroidPrimethree'sreviewsaidthegamescontrolsweregreat,andtheWiiversionofTPwassaidtohavethebettercontrols, as was strrikers,youfailat life

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#87 ball_of_air
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will this ever stop :lol:

i am starting to feel sorry for them!

here is the LINK :shock:

molinex

Thanks for letting me know about the Wii version of a game that I didn't even know existed.:roll:

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#88 KeeperofDingo
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Who honestly tries to play Guilty Gear with motion controls? Who in their right mind would try for anything besides laughs? This is an example of bad motion controls for a game.
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#89 sexy_chimp
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Man its so good to see the ps2 still dishing out some ownage haha.fistoflight

God knows the PS3 isn't doing that.

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#90 Chipp
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[QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="molinex"]

will this ever stop :lol:

i am starting to feel sorry for them!

here is the LINK :shock:

manningbowl135

This review makes no sense, let me tell you why. Its the exact same as the PS2 version. The PS2 version got a 8.5(?). But the Wii got a 5.9 because of the Wiimote controls. This would of been valid IF and I'm going to put IF in bold. The clasic controller couldn't be used, but it can! Thus making it the EXACT same as the PS2 version. lol

Um...the standards are really different. If a next gen console gives you the same exact game as a last gen console, that should give that next gen game a much lower score. So that 5.9 is justified. You're right, without the wiimote, it's the same EXACT game as the PS2 game. Which is why it got such a low score.

No thats not it at all. Have you even looked at the review for both the ps2 and Wii version? They both have the exact same scores in all areas EXCEPT the controls. Which is why it scored lower. Please for your sake, think before you post.

Have you looked at what it says? " If you have the clasic Controller though, you're basically getting the PS2 experience which is a great time." - You think a PS2 experience on the wii deserves 8.5? Then your standards for this gen is way too low.

Personally I'm not a big fan of GGXX. With that said, its comical how you are blindly trying to judge my perspective. When you obviously don't see it. GGXX is a 2D fighting game that has been milked for the last 6 years. The only thing that could improve graphically for that series is to add frames of animation. Which they may or may not have done. Nonetheless the game would look the exact same on the PS3 and 360. However the game still looks pretty good, especially seeing that there aren't a lot of other 2D fighters on the market to prove that other wise. So I'm going to ask you, show me a 2D fighter that isn't last gen? Did you know that SNK has been using the same sprites for most of their characters since the 90s? Talk about last gen.

Anyhow, my point remains that its essentially the exact game with the option to use multiple control schemes. Which the reviewer gave a overall score based upon one of them.

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#91 SuperMario_46
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I don't care, i'm still getting it, these kind of games are usually underrated Capcom Vs SNK 2 for the Cube is an example and i loved it
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#92 agentfred
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[QUOTE="tman93"]

OH NO!

Game that wasnt hyped at all got a bad rating.

Teh end of Wii is near!

:|

Sir_Marwin



NOES! :o

Indeed this must mean the Wii's downfall

:P

You guys must have missed the part where the PS2 version scored 2.6 points higher. Why is a last gen version beating it out so handily?

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#93 Chipp
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[QUOTE="Sir_Marwin"][QUOTE="tman93"]

OH NO!

Game that wasnt hyped at all got a bad rating.

Teh end of Wii is near!

:|

agentfred



NOES! :o

Indeed this must mean the Wii's downfall

:P

You guys must have missed the part where the PS2 version scored 2.6 points higher. Why is a last gen version beating it out so handily?

You must of missed the part where it states: "if you own a ****c Controller, you might as well stop reading this article and hop over to the PS2 reviewinstead, because if you're fortunate enough to have the controller handy, you'll be having virtually the exact same experience that PS2 owners are having with the game, and it's a great experience. "

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#94 KeeperofDingo
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[QUOTE="Sir_Marwin"][QUOTE="tman93"]

OH NO!

Game that wasnt hyped at all got a bad rating.

Teh end of Wii is near!

:|

agentfred



NOES! :o

Indeed this must mean the Wii's downfall

:P

You guys must have missed the part where the PS2 version scored 2.6 points higher. Why is a last gen version beating it out so handily?



Because the shoddy motion controls maybe?

It is also kinda sad to claim "ownage" for a game series that many people seemingly never heard of.
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#95 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="molinex"]

will this ever stop :lol:

i am starting to feel sorry for them!

here is the LINK :shock:

Ramadear

This review makes no sense, let me tell you why. Its the exact same as the PS2 version. The PS2 version got a 8.5(?). But the Wii got a 5.9 because of the Wiimote controls. This would of been valid IF and I'm going to put IF in bold. The clasic controller couldn't be used, but it can! Thus making it the EXACT same as the PS2 version. lol

Um...the standards are really different. If a next gen console gives you the same exact game as a last gen console, that should give that next gen game a much lower score. So that 5.9 is justified. You're right, without the wiimote, it's the same EXACT game as the PS2 game. Which is why it got such a low score.

No thats not it at all. Have you even looked at the review for both the ps2 and Wii version? They both have the exact same scores in all areas EXCEPT the controls. Which is why it scored lower. Please for your sake, think before you post.

Have you looked at what it says? " If you have the clasic Controller though, you're basically getting the PS2 experience which is a great time." - You think a PS2 experience on the wii deserves 8.5? Then your standards for this gen is way too low.

Personally I'm not a big fan of GGXX. With that said, its comical how you are blindly trying to judge my perspective. When you obviously don't see it. GGXX is a 2D fighting game that has been milked for the last 6 years. The only thing that could improve graphically for that series is to add frames of animation. Which they may or may not have done. Nonetheless the game would look the exact same on the PS3 and 360. However the game still looks pretty good, especially seeing that there aren't a lot of other 2D fighters on the market to prove that other wise. So I'm going to ask you, show me a 2D fighter that isn't last gen? Did you know that SNK has been using the same sprites for most of their characters since the 90s? Talk about last gen.

Anyhow, my point remains that its essentially the exact game with the option to use multiple control schemes. Which the reviewer gave a overall score based upon one of them.

Ok. My point is a next gen game that is "essentially the exact game" as a last gen game doesn't deserve the same score. If there is no way they can make it better for a next gen console, then it shouldn't be made. Either way, wii game = ps2 game = worse score. Period.

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#96 agentfred
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Because the shoddy motion controls maybe?

It is also kinda sad to claim "ownage" for a game series that many people seemingly never heard of.KeeperofDingo

You've never heard of guilty gear? Anyway, isn't the motion control the highlight of the Wii? If it makes alot of games worse, perhaps we should just stick with conventional controllers. I know people will get really upset by that, but it certainly isn't helping the gaming experience when it came to this game.

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#97 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="KeeperofDingo"]

Because the shoddy motion controls maybe?

It is also kinda sad to claim "ownage" for a game series that many people seemingly never heard of.agentfred

You've never heard of guilty gear? Anyway, isn't the motion control the highlight of the Wii? If it makes alot of games worse, perhaps we should just stick with conventional controllers. I know people will get really upset by that, but it certainly isn't helping the gaming experience when it came to this game.

I agree that devs should have the option of putting motion controls in it or not. it is at their own risk, however, because using motion is the best way to stand out in the competition. That's what made wiisports such a hit and a true "next gen" experience

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#98 KeeperofDingo
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[QUOTE="KeeperofDingo"]

Because the shoddy motion controls maybe?

It is also kinda sad to claim "ownage" for a game series that many people seemingly never heard of.agentfred

You've never heard of guilty gear? Anyway, isn't the motion control the highlight of the Wii? If it makes alot of games worse, perhaps we should just stick with conventional controllers. I know people will get really upset by that, but it certainly isn't helping the gaming experience when it came to this game.



I know of Guilty Gear, I played it in arcades, I am saying if you read through the thread, there seems to be many people saying they never heard of this game or series.
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:lol:! The ownage is huge, i mean, this game was friggin hyped to hell and ba-.. oh wait, it wasnt.
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#100 creepy_mike
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then don't use ign's score for ownageDivergeUnify

Ha ha! Thought I was the only person who noticed that small, but fatal discrepancy. Excellent work. :)

As for the rest of the discussion. I honestly don't care if this game that hardly anybody knows or cares about is worse with (completely optional) motion control. The Wii-mote is not ideal for fighting games, which is exactly one of the reasons we have Clasic and GC compatibility. It's also worth noting that that the Wii + Nunchuck combo practically makes Dual Analog for FPS's obsolete. Options are good.