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#1 th2
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Ownage
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#2 crunchUK
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yep that IS bad news especially as many people went and bought ofreign copies of brawl due to late release date.
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#3 bobbetybob
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Correction, European Sheep are owned, I don't have a Freeloader though so doesn't bother me.
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#4 Muzzle_Flashes
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Don't forget ms and sony coming out with motion controls, wiping out the entire wii market...
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#5 Popadophalis
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I find this to be very frustrating and pointless. What is the problem with importing games Nintendo seriously?
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#6 Nintendo_Man
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This why they have lost every gen in PAL regions. Don't worry, the story has been spreading through Australia all day with people outraged.
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#7 vicmackey39
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rofl
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#8 -Jiggles-
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Now they're going to punish European gamers who bought Brawl over seas because of their own absent-minded decisions?

Way to go, Nintendo.

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#9 elektrixxx
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A new Freeloader will release every time the old disc stops working.
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#10 -Jiggles-
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A new Freeloader will release every time the old disc stops working.elektrixxx

And Wii owners will end up paying an extra $30+ for it once again.

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#11 Chutebox
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Can someone please explain what freeloader is?
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#12 ash10692
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There aren't any games imminent that are as hyped or late (in Europe) as Brawl, so the number of freeloaders will drop. At least for a while.
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#13 -Jiggles-
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Can someone please explain what freeloader is?Chutebox

Many games are region protected by Nintendo, meaning that games in Japan can only be played on Japanese Wii's, etc. Freeloader bypasses this built-in security and lets people play region-protected games on their console, despite where it may be made from. It's been popular with many European gamers to play US-region Super Smash Bros Brawl games on their European-region Wii's using this device.

Now that Nintendo patched it, they cannot do this anymore.

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#14 th2
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Can someone please explain what freeloader is?Chutebox
Its a disk which makes your will region free, so region locked games can be played on any wii console
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#15 Chutebox
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Wow, that sucks. Why would they bother with this, it's not like it's stealing or something?

I'm confused. I don't want to turn this into console war or anything, but is 360 region locked also? Just wondering.

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#16 -Jiggles-
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Wow, that sucks. Why would they bother with this, it's not like it's stealing or something?

I'm confused. I don't want to turn this into console war or anything, but is 360 region locked also? Just wondering.

Chutebox

I don't think so, at least.

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#17 EuroMafia
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Why dammit?
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#18 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Wow, that sucks. Why would they bother with this, it's not like it's stealing or something?

I'm confused. I don't want to turn this into console war or anything, but is 360 region locked also? Just wondering.

-Jiggles-

I don't think so, at least.

Well, it's still a stupid thing to do if it's true. Nothing is worse than screwing over the people who give you money.

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#19 th2
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Wow, that sucks. Why would they bother with this, it's not like it's stealing or something?

I'm confused. I don't want to turn this into console war or anything, but is 360 region locked also? Just wondering.

-Jiggles-

I don't think so, at least.

Only some games are region locked, but most are not.

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#20 SpinoRaptor
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Stupid move Nintendo. It's not like a hack or a mod.
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#21 SpinoRaptor
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Then again Nintendo never listen to their fanbase. They walk all over them.
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#22 locopatho
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Ok I'll normally defend Nintendo to the death. But this is completely and utterly ****ed. All the freeloader does is get around Nintendo's insane delays in releasing games. The games are still purchased legitimately, just in a different region. Ah Nintendo why must you make it so hard to love you!!!
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#23 fishfake
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Then again Nintendo never listen to their fanbase. They walk all over them.SpinoRaptor

..... i dont think thats true but if you think that right i can also say:

there are no games on the ps3 or

the 360 ONLY have shooters

the wii ONLY played by grandmothers

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#24 kaangonultas
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wow nintendo you are dumber than i thought
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#25 fishfake
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wow nintendo you are dumber than i thoughtkaangonultas

and we all know thats your biggest problem !:P

dont you think there is a reason for that ?

actually the people who update there console while using things like the freeloader are the dumb people if you ask me

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#26 JLF1
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[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]wow nintendo you are dumber than i thoughtfishfake

and we all know thats your biggest problem !:P

dont you think there is a reason for that ?

actually the people who update there console while using things like the freeloader are the dumb people if you ask me

No Nintendo are the dumb people. Do you seriously defend Nintendo with this? Nintendo is THE dev with some of the best games ever but they also make the fanbase hate them every now and then like this time. Nintendo has made some serious bad moves this gen and they should be questioned for the way MS should be questioned forthe RROD and Sony for the lies this gen.

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#27 kaangonultas
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still a dumb move
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#28 fishfake
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[QUOTE="fishfake"]

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]wow nintendo you are dumber than i thoughtJLF1

and we all know thats your biggest problem !:P

dont you think there is a reason for that ?

actually the people who update there console while using things like the freeloader are the dumb people if you ask me

No Nintendo are the dumb people. Do you seriously defend Nintendo with this? Nintendo is THE dev with some of the best games ever but they also make the fanbase hate them every now and then like this time. Nintendo has made some serious bad moves this gen and they should be questioned for the way MS should be questioned forthe RROD and Sony for the lies this gen.

i blame nintendo for being not able too release games worldwide in the same month but not to stop tools like the freeloader.

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#29 SapSacPrime
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I find this to be very frustrating and pointless. What is the problem with importing games Nintendo seriously?Popadophalis

Simple answer? Nintendo are still price fixing in Europe, Wii games are constantly more expensive than 360 and even PS3 games over here. I tend to pay between £10 and usually a maximum of £20 for 360 games some of which are a matter of a few months old (with the exception of one game, mass effect because I got LE), where as Zelda TP is still £40 over here, WTF is that about? This is the reason I have not purchased a Wii game since the sublime Mario Galaxy, I am renting Wii games for the time being until they are priced fairly (going on last gen in the UK I may have a long wait, GC can still be found overpriced :|).

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#30 shadowcat2576
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So let me get this straight: You're mad at Nintendo, because they decided to block a piece of software, specifically designed to circumvent a design feature that they put into their hardware, that you were aware was in there.

Yes, it would be nice if all systems were region free, and all games were released at the same time everywhere, but this is never going to happen. It's been clear from the start that the Wii was regionlocked, if some gamers chose to get around that, they knew it was possibly a short term solution. I don't feel sorry for them really.

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#31 lancea34
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Who cares? Brawl arrives this month, so I think the Freeloader isn't needed anymore.
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#32 effthat
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I believe that a freeloader can also be used to load a burnt copy of a game, but I might be wrong on that. It's the same concept really as the Playstation 1 and 2 versions or the chips that are constantly being circulated.

Anyway, this is a moot point. The people who had freeloaders knew it would happen and had ample warning time. The cost of a new freeloader is only $30 and the updates only come about every 4 months. This isn't a huge price to pay for importing freedom.

Ownage denied...

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#33 Darth_DuMas
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Apart from marketing does Nintendo of Europe actually do anything?

Seriously, they delay everything (they make the release decisions im sure). Their customer service is virtually non existant and their website barely works well, let alone even that useful in the first place.

Some serious repositioning needs to happen in the NoE building.

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#34 Mystic_Legend
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Who cares? Brawl arrives this month, so I think the Freeloader isn't needed anymore.lancea34

So what about those who imported Brawl already?

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#35 SecretPolice
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What else is new ?

Same company different gen is all.

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#36 samusarmada
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Ok I'll normally defend Nintendo to the death. But this is completely and utterly ****ed. All the freeloader does is get around Nintendo's insane delays in releasing games. The games are still purchased legitimately, just in a different region. Ah Nintendo why must you make it so hard to love you!!!locopatho

foreign games are cheaper, they probably arent making as much money as they could if everyone bought PAL copies.

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#37 fishfake
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[QUOTE="lancea34"]Who cares? Brawl arrives this month, so I think the Freeloader isn't needed anymore.Mystic_Legend

So what about those who imported Brawl already?

just dont update your wii !! is that really soooo hard ??

and if people are dumb enough why not just read what changed with that update ,course you have too except the terms too update !

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#38 Luigi_Vincetana
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This is why I don't import Wii Games. A little patience never hurt anyone.
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#39 Ontain
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I don't use freeloader so i don't care.
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#40 Ontain
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Don't forget ms and sony coming out with motion controls, wiping out the entire wii market...Muzzle_Flashes

Don't forget MS and Sony both came out with mp3 players, wiping out the entire ipod market... :roll:

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#41 blitzkid1
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Just wait for the game to come to your region impatient mortals.
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#42 GundamGuy0
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Did anyone stop to think that perhaps the update broke it with out them knowing they broke it... Just saying it's possible they changed something that broke it inadverntenly. Companies aren't always out to get you.

They probly did stop it... but we don't know for sure.

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#43 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="lancea34"]Who cares? Brawl arrives this month, so I think the Freeloader isn't needed anymore.Mystic_Legend

So what about those who imported Brawl already?

You mean the people who are causing the NA version of the game to lag like hell?

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#44 foxhound_fox
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Ever since I've owned my DS and PSP I have thought that all consoles should be region free (I wouldn't have been able to play DJMAX otherwise). I don't understand why these console manufacturers do this... it just makes no sense. Why do certain regions get special treatment while others get the shaft? And why do certain regions get certain games while others do not?

**** you Nintendo. Ruining people's fun.
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#45 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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I'm beginning to question if Nintendo actually listens to their fan-base...
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#46 xNJN
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Owned? hardly. The majority of Wii players could care less about Freeloader and the Twilight Princess game save hack. If anything it's probably for better, seeing as how Nintendo released it in the first place.
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#47 fishfake
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I'm beginning to question if Nintendo actually listens to their fan-base...VGobbsesser

yes maybe that is the reason why they warn all people before update that it can dame things like the freeloader ! if they wouldn't care why the warning then ??

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#48 elektrixxx
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Did anyone stop to think that perhaps the update broke it with out them knowing they broke it... Just saying it's possible they changed something that broke it inadverntenly. Companies aren't always out to get you.

They probly did stop it... but we don't know for sure.GundamGuy0



This update specifically targets the bug that Freeloader uses to run, but Nintendo's bigger concern would be to do with pirates basing their efforts on this bug, called the "trucha-signing" bug.

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#49 BuryMe
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Doesn't bother me. I don't mod my Wii
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#50 wiretoss
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I feel that they have the right to do this since they specifically made the Wii region locked in the first place. There had to be a reason for it. It wasn't a stupid move for them with this 3.3 business. It was a stupid move making it region locked in the first place.

There are a few reasons I can think of why region locking might be important to them though.