Shigeru Miyamoto explains on why there hasn't been a new F-Zero...

well he did also say this about it"Thank you very much and try to wait by playing Nintendo Land's F-Zero mini-game"

LMAO and he doesn't feel that way for mario and Zelda?

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]silly miyamoto, people want a new F-zero because it's the fastest racing game ever, with excellent, creative track design, kick-ass soundtrack and responsive controls. all of these are more than you can say about any other racing game.caryslan2

About the closest series to F-Zero in terms of gameplay or overall design is Wipeout. Which means there are pretty much two futuristic racers on the market, and one of them(F-Zero) has not even seen a game in years.

Which pretty much leaves Wipeout as the only racer of this type that's on the market.

The reasons are that he felt that people were getting tired of the series and felt the series hasn't evolved that much.

Sounds like a lame excuss to me, when theres a new Super mario bros pumping out every year, and Zelda hasnt changed since OOT.

LMAO and he doesn't feel that way for mario and Zelda?

GD1551

With rFactor 2, iRacing, Project Cars, Forza Motorsport 4 and Forza Horizon available it would make a new fzero look pretty silly.

With rFactor 2, iRacing, Project Cars, Forza Motorsport 4 and Forza Horizon available it would make a new fzero look pretty silly.

percuvius2

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

LMAO and he doesn't feel that way for mario and Zelda?

VideoGameGuy

Considering the fact Zelda and Mario have been largely unchanged from their N64 counterparts? Let's not even comment on 2D mario.

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Just give SEGA F-Zero again.Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="ms555"]Yeah i heard this at gameinformer.....it sounds to me like Miyamoto knows we want F Zero but honestly he doesnt really want to make one. He has a "never say never" attitude right now, which means it could happen but not anytime soon If u want my predicton,

id say when we get more f zero it will be a 3ds game. Kind of how nintendo used 3ds to give kid icarus another go, they will put f zero on 3ds as an alternative to mariokart 7. Its a safer bet, because the demands and expectations for handhelds are lower than for consoles, and the budget for handheld games is smaller. nintendoboy16

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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"] Pretty much,they made the best f-zero after all.siLVURcross

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]I liked GX I just wish it had a similar soundtrack to F-Zero and F-Zero X I liked that music better then the music in GX.BrunoBRS

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[QUOTE="ms555"]Yeah i heard this at gameinformer.....it sounds to me like Miyamoto knows we want F Zero but honestly he doesnt really want to make one. He has a "never say never" attitude right now, which means it could happen but not anytime soon If u want my predicton,

id say when we get more f zero it will be a 3ds game. Kind of how nintendo used 3ds to give kid icarus another go, they will put f zero on 3ds as an alternative to mariokart 7. Its a safer bet, because the demands and expectations for handhelds are lower than for consoles, and the budget for handheld games is smaller. charizard1605

"In the past we've worked with some outside development houses on titles likeF-ZeroandStarfox and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, but the games themselves did not deliver."

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

LMAO and he doesn't feel that way for mario and Zelda?

GD1551

Considering the fact Zelda and Mario have been largely unchanged from their N64 counterparts? Let's not even comment on 2D mario.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Not surprising, considering he disliked GX (like when a movie actor admits to disliking being in a certain movie, example: Jackie Chan in Rush Hour, City Hunter, and The Protector).

nintendoboy16

"In the past we've worked with some outside development houses on titles likeF-ZeroandStarfox and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, but the games themselves did not deliver."

Zelda hasnt changed since OOT.

ultimate-k

Not sure if serious...

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Again, there is no indication he disliked GX at all. His comments could as easily have been directed at the GBA F-Zero games (which they probably were according to those in the know, incidentally). He has never one explicitly said he dislikes GX at all.charizard1605

"In the past we've worked with some outside development houses on titles likeF-ZeroandStarfox and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, but the games themselves did not deliver."

By "critically," do you mean the actual critics? Let's take a look at the F-Zero games that were released in that era and how the scored with critics:

Maximum Velocity- 86

GX- 89

GP Legend- 77

How is that not "critically" well?

Also, when do critic reviews and scores reflect other opinions? Last I checked, THEY DIDN'T (see what happened with the Mortal Kombat franchise pre-MK9, Star Fox games since Adventures, Metroid: Other M, Tekken 6, Super Smash Bros. games that AREN'T Melee, and several Sonic games like Rush, Advance, and Colors). Just because something gets praised by critics, doesn't mean others (be it consumers or game developers themselves) will treat it the same way.

There is also one more problem behind the F-Zero games: SALES. And last I checked, they bombed.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I'm sorry, but how is THIS not admitting his dislike for it?

"In the past we've worked with some outside development houses on titles likeF-ZeroandStarfox and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, but the games themselves did not deliver."

nintendoboy16

By "critically," do you mean the actual critics? Let's take a look at the F-Zero games that were released in that era and how the scored with critics:

Maximum Velocity- 86

GX- 89

GP Legend- 77

How is that not "critically" well?

Also, when do critic reviews and scores reflect other opinions? Last I checked, THEY DIDN'T (see what happened with the Mortal Kombat franchise pre-MK9, Star Fox games since Adventures, Metroid: Other M, Tekken 6, Super Smash Bros. games that AREN'T Melee, and several Sonic games like Rush, Advance, and Colors). Just because something gets praised by critics, doesn't mean others (be it consumers or game developers themselves) will treat it the same way.

There is also one more problem behind the F-Zero games: SALES. And last I checked, they bombed.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

He spelled Mario wrong.

DrTrafalgarLaw

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] And again, he could as easily have been talking about the F-Zero Gameboy Advance games, which were also made in collaboration with external development houses, and which failed to deliver. Certainly, considering Miyamoto is talking about the quality of the games, don't you think it's a teensy bit possible that he is referring to the games that didn't do well critically as opposed to the game that, I don't know, is often called the greatest racer ever created?charizard1605

By "critically," do you mean the actual critics? Let's take a look at the F-Zero games that were released in that era and how the scored with critics:

Maximum Velocity- 86

GX- 89

GP Legend- 77

How is that not "critically" well?

Also, when do critic reviews and scores reflect other opinions? Last I checked, THEY DIDN'T (see what happened with the Mortal Kombat franchise pre-MK9, Star Fox games since Adventures, Metroid: Other M, Tekken 6, Super Smash Bros. games that AREN'T Melee, and several Sonic games like Rush, Advance, and Colors). Just because something gets praised by critics, doesn't mean others (be it consumers or game developers themselves) will treat it the same way.

There is also one more problem behind the F-Zero games: SALES. And last I checked, they bombed.

Maybe F-Zero Climax didn't release out of Japan because the last games FAILED in sales, thus restricting it to just Japan? How do we know the game was so bad it prevented localization? By that logic, Jump Super Stars (DS) must have been a piece of s***.

openworld sandbox fzero.

That would be awesome.

openworld sandbox fzero.

That would be awesome.

ReadingRainbow4

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Don't you think he would EXPLICITLY bring up the GBA games (Maximum Velocity and GP Legend)?

By "critically," do you mean the actual critics? Let's take a look at the F-Zero games that were released in that era and how the scored with critics:

Maximum Velocity- 86

GX- 89

GP Legend- 77

How is that not "critically" well?

Also, when do critic reviews and scores reflect other opinions? Last I checked, THEY DIDN'T (see what happened with the Mortal Kombat franchise pre-MK9, Star Fox games since Adventures, Metroid: Other M, Tekken 6, Super Smash Bros. games that AREN'T Melee, and several Sonic games like Rush, Advance, and Colors). Just because something gets praised by critics, doesn't mean others (be it consumers or game developers themselves) will treat it the same way.

There is also one more problem behind the F-Zero games: SALES. And last I checked, they bombed.

nintendoboy16

Maybe F-Zero Climax didn't release out of Japan because the last games FAILED in sales, thus restricting it to just Japan? How do we know the game was so bad it prevented localization? By that logic, Jump Super Stars (DS) must have been a piece of s***.

The problem with GP Legend and Climax is that they both tied to the crappy Anime. Seriously, that show may have killed the brand a bit. F-Zero isn't about the Story, it's always been about the unique machines you drive and its high adrenaline arcade gameplay with different interesting worlds.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] Why would he?lordlors

Considering the fact Zelda and Mario have been largely unchanged from their N64 counterparts? Let's not even comment on 2D mario.

You completely missed the point of what I was getting at, instead you type out a long rant for absolutely zero reason when I'm merely stating his logic can be applied to other games he is still making sequels for.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]he also wants to know WHY gamers want a new F-Zero and wonders what they want from it that hasn't been done before.

sammyjenkis898

Seriously?

lmao I know. I am a bit shocked to hear this coming from him to be honest. first of all, F-Zero GX is amazing, and just making a new one with better graphics, online play, and new content would be enough. But I am SURE they can think of some new stuff. I mean hell, strapping a glider and submarine thing to your vehicles in MK7 seemed to be enough for them ;).

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]They should release an HD remake of GX for the U to gauge interest.DarkLink77

Just update the graphics as much as possible (otherwise it isn't a fair gauge) without going overboard on a remake, and preferably add online mutliplayer. would DEFINITELY buy! I remember GX being one fo the most fully featured and fullfilling racers out there. It felt almost like the timesplitters of racing games :).

This is the nicest way to say...we are not making any more F-Zero because the last games didn't sold that well.

This is the nicest way to say...we are not making any more F-Zero because the last games didn't sold that well.

madsnakehhh

Sounds like it, yet they keep making Metoid and they are including F-Zero in Nintendo Land. Strange.

F-Zero GX > Wipeout, Extreme G, Star Wars Pod Racers

I miss it :(.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

This is the nicest way to say...we are not making any more F-Zero because the last games didn't sold that well.

NaveedLife

Sounds like it, yet they keep making Metoid and they are including F-Zero in Nintendo Land. Strange.

F-Zero GX > Wipeout, Extreme G, Star Wars Pod Racers

I miss it :(.

Metroid has definitely a much more stronger fanbase, comparing Metroid Prime with F-Zero GX in terms of sales is not fair, not to mention the next Prime games had decent sales until Other M which it wasn't that popular.

About including F-Zero in Nintendo land, well i feel that they needed a racing mini game and since they own the IP they used it.

And yes, F-Zero >>>> pretty much everything else...i have Wipeout for PS3 (don't remember which one) and its cool and all, but its not F-Zero.

Screw F-Zero, I want a new Star Fox game damnit!sSubZerOo

:evil:

F-Zero > SF :P

Not comparable at all really, but I would much rather have F-Zero GX than any Star Fox.

thats really stupid

thats really stupid

Mario1331

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats really stupid

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats really stupid

charizard1605

thats what happened with xenoblade and last story too....oh wait

yea sony games dont sell that much at all but they will green light anything

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Last ones have not sold well...So he suspected that there was not much want for the game anymore. Mario1331

thats what happened with xenoblade and last story too....oh wait

yea sony games dont sell that much at all but they will green light anything

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Times like these, I wish Nintendo was more like Sony in this regard.charizard1605

thats what happened with xenoblade and last story too....oh wait

yea sony games dont sell that much at all but they will green light anything

Yet they are helping recreate a turd (NG3) :P. And adding dismemberment! I remember when Nintendo wouldn't let there be blood in Mortal Kombat :lol:

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats what happened with xenoblade and last story too....oh wait

yea sony games dont sell that much at all but they will green light anything

NaveedLife

Yet they are helping recreate a turd (NG3) :P. And adding dismemberment! I remember when Nintendo wouldn't let there be blood in Mortal Kombat :lol:

He knows that WipEout will embarrass it, that's why.

He knows that WipEout will embarrass it, that's why.

Obviously_Right

I don't see what people like about WIpeout. SOOOO boring. It is like a space racing sim without the customization or fun drifting of real sims. F-Zero is insanely fun and creative. it is like Extreme G and Pod Racing, but better.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

He knows that WipEout will embarrass it, that's why.

NaveedLife

I don't see what people like about WIpeout. SOOOO boring. It is like a space racing sim without the customization or fun drifting of real sims. F-Zero is insanely fun and creative. it is like Extreme G and Pod Racing, but better.

Its the fastest racer out there bar none, F-Zero in comparison has all the intensity of a game of Street Cleaning Simulator running at 10 FPS.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

He knows that WipEout will embarrass it, that's why.

Obviously_Right

I don't see what people like about WIpeout. SOOOO boring. It is like a space racing sim without the customization or fun drifting of real sims. F-Zero is insanely fun and creative. it is like Extreme G and Pod Racing, but better.

Its the fastest racer out there bar none, F-Zero in comparison has all the intensity of a game of Street Cleaning Simulator at 10 FPS.

Have you played F-Zero GX? It is fast. Maybe not as fast.

But if you have not played Extreme G on N64, I believe that is indeed faster than Wipeout. It can get downright insane.With cheat codes when you keep boosing the screen flips upside down and it is nearly impossible :P.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Times like these, I wish Nintendo was more like Sony in this regard.charizard1605

thats what happened with xenoblade and last story too....oh wait

yea sony games dont sell that much at all but they will green light anything

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats what happened with xenoblade and last story too....oh wait

yea sony games dont sell that much at all but they will green light anything

nintendoboy16

Source: GoNintendo

In other parts regarding this, he also wants to know WHY gamers want a new F-Zero and wonders what they want from it that hasn't been done before.

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Your thoughts? (Judging by the above statement, this will not go well...)

nintendoboy16