Shoot em' ups dead?

Have there been any good shoot em' ups in years? I can't beleive this genre hasn't had as many installments in the last ten years as it had before then.

For the love of god play Sin & Punishment Star Successor!!!

XBLA is full of them, and a few have hit PSN. Many are reissues, but Sine Mora is new.

on psp/vita the superstardust series is really good and a mini called OMGZ (Oh My God Zombies) is really worth the $5

Depends what you mean by dead. They were never a genre that topped the sales chart.

Kid Icarus Uprising

Bulletstorm (shoot em up inspired FPS)

Shoot em up inspired segments in Rayman Origins

The 360 has quite a few of them.

You can also play Jamestown (among others) on the PC

They are not dead is juts that the media doesn't gives them any attention. The video game media is all hype just like the system warriors so they only care about triple A games and graphics.

SHMUPS have never been a dominant genre, more of a niche thing. But yes, there were a lot of SHMUPS coming out, mostly between 1992 and 1998, but since then there hasn't been nearly as many. Luckily there have been some very quailty SHMUPs on the 360 in recent years, and also a few good ones on the DS.

Have there been any good shoot em' ups in years? I can't beleive this genre hasn't had as many installments in the last ten years as it had before then.

mariokart97

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Have there been any good shoot em' ups in years? I can't beleive this genre hasn't had as many installments in the last ten years as it had before then.

Some-Mist

[QUOTE="mariokart97"]

Have there been any good shoot em' ups in years? I can't beleive this genre hasn't had as many installments in the last ten years as it had before then.

Some-Mist

Under Defeat - released in JPN only - 360 version is region-locked, PS3 version is region-free. other than mamoru-kun and senko no ronde, it's the only g-rev shmup worth snagging this gen despite it being a re-release. Guwange - released on 360 in all regions. Very awesome game where you have to focus on your hitbox, your shikigami, and the landscape as you make your way through each level. ikaruga and radiant silvergun were both re-released on XBL. Sine Mora was too, but I'm not really a fan of it. There's a bunch of issues in my eyes. Raiden IV and Raiden Fighters Aces both released on 360 retail exclusive. Castle of Shikigami 3 was released on the Wii. On PC there's Jamestown which is just okay...but crimzon clover is incredble.

there's other games, but they're region-locked to japanese 360s so they aren't worth mentioning - although they are incredible.

I've got to bookmark this. :)

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Have there been any good shoot em' ups in years? I can't beleive this genre hasn't had as many installments in the last ten years as it had before then.

Some-Mist

Under Defeat - released in JPN only - 360 version is region-locked, PS3 version is region-free. other than mamoru-kun and senko no ronde, it's the only g-rev shmup worth snagging this gen despite it being a re-release. Guwange - released on 360 in all regions. Very awesome game where you have to focus on your hitbox, your shikigami, and the landscape as you make your way through each level. ikaruga and radiant silvergun were both re-released on XBL. Sine Mora was too, but I'm not really a fan of it. There's a bunch of issues in my eyes. Raiden IV and Raiden Fighters Aces both released on 360 retail exclusive. Castle of Shikigami 3 was released on the Wii. On PC there's Jamestown which is just okay...but crimzon clover is incredble.

there's other games, but they're region-locked to japanese 360s so they aren't worth mentioning - although they are incredible.

Thanks! I do own a 360 but haven't been a fan of digital downloads very much. But if it's my only legit option then screw it, i'm going for it

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"][QUOTE="mariokart97"]

Have there been any good shoot em' ups in years? I can't beleive this genre hasn't had as many installments in the last ten years as it had before then.

mariokart97

Under Defeat - released in JPN only - 360 version is region-locked, PS3 version is region-free. other than mamoru-kun and senko no ronde, it's the only g-rev shmup worth snagging this gen despite it being a re-release. Guwange - released on 360 in all regions. Very awesome game where you have to focus on your hitbox, your shikigami, and the landscape as you make your way through each level. ikaruga and radiant silvergun were both re-released on XBL. Sine Mora was too, but I'm not really a fan of it. There's a bunch of issues in my eyes. Raiden IV and Raiden Fighters Aces both released on 360 retail exclusive. Castle of Shikigami 3 was released on the Wii. On PC there's Jamestown which is just okay...but crimzon clover is incredble.

there's other games, but they're region-locked to japanese 360s so they aren't worth mentioning - although they are incredible.

Thanks! I do own a 360 but haven't been a fan of digital downloads very much. But if it's my only legit option then screw it, i'm going for it

They aren't dead, they just aren't high-budget and/or very popular anymore.

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[QUOTE="Some-Mist"] 99% of them are exclusive to the 360 this generation. click on the links for game footage: akai katana is releasing in the US/UK next month and it's by far the best hori bullet hell shmups released this gen. The game mechanics are based around using an external arm (i.e. deathsmiles, guwange) and collecting energy, running the energy through bullets to gain more energy, then switching to ninja mode and collecting gold/running gold through bullets to gain more points. I've been spamming the JPN version and loving it. $40 retail release dodonpachi daifukkatsu ver 1.5 (and black label) - known as dodonpachi resurrection in EU. The JPN is region locked, but the EU version plays on both US and UK 360s. It's roughly 25-40 bucks to import it from europe. Has similar, but more lenient chaining/scoring system to other installments in the dodonpachi franchise. The black label version is only one loop, much more difficult, and much more enjoyable. espgaluda II released in japan only, but it's region-free. you can import the "platinum edition" for 40 dollars. It's the sequel to ESP Ra.De. and Espgaluda and also has similar mechanics. Retail $40 on 360 deathsmiles - localized worldwide. Another hori bullet hell shmup which is based around a minion/external arm. Very fun but easier than other cave shmups. mushihimesama futari ver. 1.5 - sequel to mushihimesama (bug princess). Completely new scoring system. Insanely hard difficulty - especially if you play ultra/god mode. $40 platinum edition retail import release on 360. $20 retail deathsmiles IIX - retail release in JPN, games on demand release in the US, not released in EU. follow up to deathsmiles. $10 on GoD I think? muchi muchi pork/pink sweets double pack - not a shmup for everyone. has a cult following and release in JPN only but region-free. Unfortunately you can only find it for around $120-$160 despite being released last year since it had a 1 run printing.

Under Defeat - released in JPN only - 360 version is region-locked, PS3 version is region-free. other than mamoru-kun and senko no ronde, it's the only g-rev shmup worth snagging this gen despite it being a re-release. Guwange - released on 360 in all regions. Very awesome game where you have to focus on your hitbox, your shikigami, and the landscape as you make your way through each level. ikaruga and radiant silvergun were both re-released on XBL. Sine Mora was too, but I'm not really a fan of it. There's a bunch of issues in my eyes. Raiden IV and Raiden Fighters Aces both released on 360 retail exclusive. Castle of Shikigami 3 was released on the Wii. On PC there's Jamestown which is just okay...but crimzon clover is incredble.

there's other games, but they're region-locked to japanese 360s so they aren't worth mentioning - although they are incredible.rilpas

Thanks! I do own a 360 but haven't been a fan of digital downloads very much. But if it's my only legit option then screw it, i'm going for it

Oh my bad, everyone else was talking about Xbox Live Arcade titles so I just assumed...

Oh my bad, everyone else was talking about Xbox Live Arcade titles so I just assumed...

mariokart97

hold on...

I'll assume you live in the US :P

Deathsmiles

Otomedius Excelent

Raiden IV

Raiden Collection

and pretty soon you'll be getting Akai Katana Shin and Dodonpachi resurrection (the second is already out in Europe)

Thanks! I do own a 360 but haven't been a fan of digital downloads very much. But if it's my only legit option then screw it, i'm going for itmariokart97

[QUOTE="mariokart97"]Thanks! I do own a 360 but haven't been a fan of digital downloads very much. But if it's my only legit option then screw it, i'm going for itSome-Mist

last time I checked, I was in the top 10 worldwide in twin bee for the Game room :P

but I haven't played it in almost two years

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"][QUOTE="mariokart97"]Thanks! I do own a 360 but haven't been a fan of digital downloads very much. But if it's my only legit option then screw it, i'm going for itrilpas

last time I checked, I was in the top 10 worldwide in twin bee for the Game room :P

but I haven't played it in almost two years

[QUOTE="mariokart97"]

Have there been any good shoot em' ups in years? I can't beleive this genre hasn't had as many installments in the last ten years as it had before then.

Some-Mist

They're very much alive. They just found a new home on the digital market, a-la XBLA and PSN (maybe Steam too, I just couldn't say). There's the retro remakes (R-Type Dimensions) and many new originals like Sine Mora. If anything I'd say there's a resurrgence of the genre, just like there is for Fighters on disc media.

Great time if you're a fan :)

They're very much alive. They just found a new home on the digital market, a-la XBLA and PSN (maybe Steam too, I just couldn't say). There's the retro remakes (R-Type Dimensions) and many new originals like Sine Mora. If anything I'd say there's a resurrgence of the genre, just like there is for Fighters on disc media.

Great time if you're a fan :)

AdobeArtist

Ikaruga and Radiant Silvergun are on XBLA, as is Trouble Witches NEO and Sine Mora. There is KOF Sky Stage, which I've heard is terrible, plus a few more which I've heard mixed things on. DeathSmiles is on Games of Demand, but after buying Futari 1.5 and Galuda 2 and not enjoying Futari (haven't even opened Galuda 2), I decided against DeathSmiles. I'm not a horizontal fan myself either.

But my favourite Shmup is definitely Jamestown, and it came out last year. It's on steam. I love it. However, Shmup purists probably frown on that opinion though; anything that isn't Cave related seems to be thought of as second rate among the hardcore shmup community. Crimzon Clover is my second favourite, and took me awhile to track down to get a retail copy, but it's amazing fun. Ikaruga is probably my third favourite, though Jamestown and CC play more like a Cave shooter than lkaruga.. I think it might be the aesthetic and music of Cave shooters that put me off.. If I spent more time with them I'd probably love them. I haven't got around to Radiant Silvergun yet..

For the love of god play Sin & Punishment Star Successor!!!

Darth-Samus

the side scrollers went the bullet hell route and are too hard to bother with playing

The 3D ones are on rails and play like arcade light gun shooters

anything that isn't Cave related seems to be thought of as second rate among the hardcore shmup community. Crimzon Clover is my second favourite, and took me awhile to track down to get a retail copy, but it's amazing fun. Ikaruga is probably my third favourite, though Jamestown and CC play more like a Cave shooter than lkaruga.. I think it might be the aesthetic and music of Cave shooters that put me off.. If I spent more time with them I'd probably love them. I haven't got around to Radiant Silvergun yet..Twin-Blade

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[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]no problem. It's mostly all I put my time into any more (shmups) since the leaderboards are highly competitive (in the niche of players), and you can sit down and playthrough the entire game in 30 minutes. but since they are real hard/addicting and fun, I've sunk over 400 hours into akai katana and mushihimesama futari combined. Some-Mist

last time I checked, I was in the top 10 worldwide in twin bee for the Game room :P

but I haven't played it in almost two years

just checked, I'm in 13th place now, that's what I get for not playing the game in roughly two years :P

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

They're very much alive. They just found a new home on the digital market, a-la XBLA and PSN (maybe Steam too, I just couldn't say). There's the retro remakes (R-Type Dimensions) and many new originals like Sine Mora. If anything I'd say there's a resurrgence of the genre, just like there is for Fighters on disc media.

Great time if you're a fan :)

Some-Mist

Deathsmiles IIX Raiden IV Raiden Fighters Aces (3 game re-release compilation) Castle of Shikigami 3 Espgaluda II Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets Ketsui Bullet Soul Eschatos (combo pack of 1 original and 2 re-releases) DoDonPachi Dai-ou-jou (re-release) DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu ver. 1.5 DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu black label Radirgy Otomedius Excellent Otomedius Gorgeous Mushihime-sama Futari Mushihimesama HD (re-release coming out in a couple of weeks) Akai Katana Shin Senko No Ronde (known as Wartech: Senko No Ronde in the US) Seno No Ronde Duo Shooting Love 200x [/spoiler]

Based on those pics, is it just the Japanese market that has these games on disc, and available only as DD here in NA?

Jamestown As far as I'm concerned as perfect as a shump can be.skrat_01

If only there was online multiplayer :(

I can not play with my brother when he's 3,000 miles away!

soldner x2 looks great but i dont play shootemups anymore.

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

They're very much alive. They just found a new home on the digital market, a-la XBLA and PSN (maybe Steam too, I just couldn't say). There's the retro remakes (R-Type Dimensions) and many new originals like Sine Mora. If anything I'd say there's a resurrgence of the genre, just like there is for Fighters on disc media.

Great time if you're a fan :)

AdobeArtist

Deathsmiles IIX Raiden IV Raiden Fighters Aces (3 game re-release compilation) Castle of Shikigami 3 Espgaluda II Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets Ketsui Bullet Soul Eschatos (combo pack of 1 original and 2 re-releases) DoDonPachi Dai-ou-jou (re-release) DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu ver. 1.5 DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu black label Radirgy Otomedius Excellent Otomedius Gorgeous Mushihime-sama Futari Mushihimesama HD (re-release coming out in a couple of weeks) Akai Katana Shin Senko No Ronde (known as Wartech: Senko No Ronde in the US) Seno No Ronde Duo Shooting Love 200x [/spoiler]

Based on those pics, is it just the Japanese market that has these games on disc, and available only as DD here in NA?

PSN and XBL have a lot of them. Many come out on PC also. They have always been there, but they aren't as popular anymore.

Well they were huge in the arcades & made Billions of quarters, that should count for something right? Space invaders,Galaxian,Galaga,Asteroids,Centipede,Millipede,Defender,Stargate Were popular.

the PSN store is full of them is just that they are hard to find and most of them are on Japanese store anyway. lol

The Xbox has a bigger selection on the America store since on the PSN DonPachi and stuff are only on the Japanese PSN.

SHMUPS have never been a dominant genre, more of a niche thing. But yes, there were a lot of SHMUPS coming out, mostly between 1992 and 1998, but since then there hasn't been nearly as many. Luckily there have been some very quailty SHMUPs on the 360 in recent years, and also a few good ones on the DS.

Shenmue_Jehuty