Should Bungie's Destiny be 100% exclusive to the Xbox platform.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"] This may be news to you but third party developers by and large do not like the PS architecture. Thought you knew this already.jimmypsn

Actually most devs have no problem with it, here:

PS3 easier to develop for, claim Devs -Destructoid

Team Ninja Says PS3 Easier To Develop For

PS3 development was easy, says COD4 developer -- PlayStation...

Resident Evil 5 dev: PS3 is not hard to develop for -- PlayStation...

Epic Games' Mark Rein: PS3 as easy to develop for as Xbox 360

As you can see, many devs have no problems with developing for the PS3. This is even further proved in the fact that almost all multiplats are identical, if it truly was harder to develop for you would see most PS3 multiplats look significalnty worse, which is very rarely the case at all. In 99% multiplats you can't tell the difference between the two versions.

However the real advantage of the PS3 comes at the fact that it is more powerful than 360 and hasn't been maxed out yet like the 360 has. Devs are going to make bigger and bigger games, and they will have to put them on the more powerful consoles. The 360 will be struggling to keep up.

Here:

EA exec: 360 has already been 'maxed out' | Joystiq

PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Devs - IndustryGamers

Now the first article was posted in 2009, the second in 2011 last year. That shows the 360 got maxed out A LONG time ago, this explains why there are no 360 games that look as good as some of the PS3 exclusives do. And all one has to do is take a look at KZ3 to know how advanced it is, yet the devs themselves are saying that it STILL wasn't maxed out by it. This is further prooved when you look at upcoming games for the PS3.

Here:

God of War Ascension - Multiplayer Gameplay - HD 720p - YouTube

The Last of Us - The Truck Ambush Trailer HD- IGN-YouTube

Those two games look even better than KZ3 and UC3. Proof that it hasn't been maxed out yet, if it was that wouldn't be possible. Those two games will be the new graphics king. And keep in mind they are still several months away from being finished (a year away in GOW A case) that means the graphics will be EVEN better when they get released.

And many devs have openly said there games are ONLY possible on the PS3 because the 360 isn't powerful enough.

Here:

Kojima Says MGS4Not Possible on Other Platforms

Uncharted 2 "impossible" on Xbox 360 News ? News ? PlayStation 3 ...

Why God of War III is only possible on PS3 | GamesRadar

Guerrilla Devs - "Killzone 2 impossible on 360" ? Gaming ? PS3 ...

Infamous 2 'can't be done on Xbox' -Says Devs ...

And here arte the console hardware facts, you can see for yourself which console is more powerful. It's the PS3.

Here:

Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I have provided all the evidence to support my claims. I've proven it, you did not. The court listens to evidence and proof, not baseless claims. Listen to your brain, use logic, don't listen to your emotions. PS3 is the more powerful system, FACT. Most devs do not find it hard to develop for, FACT. Many PS3 games simply cannot be done on 360 because it's not powerful enough to handle them, FACT.

Also you better enjoy your 2nd place while it lasts, it's only a matter of time before PS3 over takes 360 as it has been selling at a much faster rate.

Here:

Why PlayStation 3 Will Outsell Xbox 360 - PS3 Feature at IGN

From the article

"There are a number of reasons on why the gap is rapidly closing. PlayStation 3 has many more high quality exclusive games than Xbox 360 and a great free online service. One could easily use the old fallback that Xbox 360's insanely high failure rate earlier in its lifecycle contributed to more consoles being sold."

Now start your damage control.

lol quotes? You didn't read the links did you? Guess you can't handle the truth. I proved my points through evidence, you did no such thing.

And here I'll provide a bet for you, find me ONE 360 game on the same level and scale as

THIS

Go!

But I'm not leaving SW for a month, some college classes are too boring :P

Actually most devs have no problem with it, here:

PS3 easier to develop for, claim Devs -Destructoid

Team Ninja Says PS3 Easier To Develop For

PS3 development was easy, says COD4 developer -- PlayStation...

Resident Evil 5 dev: PS3 is not hard to develop for -- PlayStation...

Epic Games' Mark Rein: PS3 as easy to develop for as Xbox 360

As you can see, many devs have no problems with developing for the PS3. This is even further proved in the fact that almost all multiplats are identical, if it truly was harder to develop for you would see most PS3 multiplats look significalnty worse, which is very rarely the case at all. In 99% multiplats you can't tell the difference between the two versions.

However the real advantage of the PS3 comes at the fact that it is more powerful than 360 and hasn't been maxed out yet like the 360 has. Devs are going to make bigger and bigger games, and they will have to put them on the more powerful consoles. The 360 will be struggling to keep up.

Here:

EA exec: 360 has already been 'maxed out' | Joystiq

PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Devs - IndustryGamers

Now the first article was posted in 2009, the second in 2011 last year. That shows the 360 got maxed out A LONG time ago, this explains why there are no 360 games that look as good as some of the PS3 exclusives do. And all one has to do is take a look at KZ3 to know how advanced it is, yet the devs themselves are saying that it STILL wasn't maxed out by it. This is further prooved when you look at upcoming games for the PS3.

Here:

God of War Ascension - Multiplayer Gameplay - HD 720p - YouTube

The Last of Us - The Truck Ambush Trailer HD- IGN-YouTube

Those two games look even better than KZ3 and UC3. Proof that it hasn't been maxed out yet, if it was that wouldn't be possible. Those two games will be the new graphics king. And keep in mind they are still several months away from being finished (a year away in GOW A case) that means the graphics will be EVEN better when they get released.

And many devs have openly said there games are ONLY possible on the PS3 because the 360 isn't powerful enough.

Here:

Kojima Says MGS4Not Possible on Other Platforms

Uncharted 2 "impossible" on Xbox 360 News ? News ? PlayStation 3 ...

Why God of War III is only possible on PS3 | GamesRadar

Guerrilla Devs - "Killzone 2 impossible on 360" ? Gaming ? PS3 ...

Infamous 2 'can't be done on Xbox' -Says Devs ...

And here arte the console hardware facts, you can see for yourself which console is more powerful. It's the PS3.

Here:

Xbox 360 vs. PlayStation 3: The Hardware Throwdown - IGN

I have provided all the evidence to support my claims. I've proven it, you did not. The court listens to evidence and proof, not baseless claims. Listen to your brain, use logic, don't listen to your emotions. PS3 is the more powerful system, FACT. Most devs do not find it hard to develop for, FACT. Many PS3 games simply cannot be done on 360 because it's not powerful enough to handle them, FACT.

Also you better enjoy your 2nd place while it lasts, it's only a matter of time before PS3 over takes 360 as it has been selling at a much faster rate.

Here:

Why PlayStation 3 Will Outsell Xbox 360 - PS3 Feature at IGN

From the article

"There are a number of reasons on why the gap is rapidly closing. PlayStation 3 has many more high quality exclusive games than Xbox 360 and a great free online service. One could easily use the old fallback that Xbox 360's insanely high failure rate earlier in its lifecycle contributed to more consoles being sold."

Now start your damage control. :cool:

ShadowMoses900

One thing's for sure... You sure as hell love to write.

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I'm sure making less money, selling less copies and catering to only 1/4 of the potential market they could cater to is a great idea.

Like, why is there a McDonalds in every state? Obviously they should only stick to 1/4 of the states in the USA since reaching a wider consumer base and making more money is OVERRATED!

#Systemwarsfanboylogic

jimmypsn

next time, read the actual agreement.

then you would understand how the multiplatforming of destiny will work...

But I'm not leaving SW for a month, some college classes are too boring :P

ShadowMoses900

Ahh don't have the cajones eh? Thought so.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] I'm sorry but your an idiot, 1. Bungie are hiring people who are familar with the ps3's hardware and 2. Bethesda games are always buggy as hell, you do know the 360 version of skyrim is buggy also right, hell the pc version crashed on me multiple times, They just really really hiccuped with the ps3 title. When was the last time a dev has said the ps3 was hard to develop for? its not 2009 anymore.Chris_Williams

Actually after the updates Fallout and Skyrim are perfectly playable and are identical to the 360 version.

Here:

Fallout 3 - HD Comparaison 360 vs PS3

Elders Scroll's Skyrim - Xbox 360, Ps3 & PC HD comparison

If you say you see a difference between the two versions after watching these videos, then your lying.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But I'm not leaving SW for a month, some college classes are too boring :P

jimmypsn

Ahh don't have the cajones eh? Thought so.

I don't want anyone to leave GS, not even you or loosey. However you still back downed from my challenge, why can't you find just ONE 360 game on the same level and scale as the one I showed you? Why not? If what you say is true after all then surely you must have some evidence right?

Don't have the cajones for it eh?

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But I'm not leaving SW for a month, some college classes are too boring :P

ShadowMoses900

Ahh don't have the cajones eh? Thought so.

I don't want anyone to leave GS, not even you or loosey. However you still back downed from my challenge, why can't you find just ONE 360 game on the same level and scale as the one I showed you? Why not? If what you say is true after all then surely you must have some evidence right?

Don't have the cajones for it eh?

Insert halo 4 pic here. There. I win. Now what about my challenge?

also i never understood why microsoft just don't buy Bungie and get them as a first party dev, that would be very huge.

Chris_Williams

They did, and then Bungei bought themselves back.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Ahh don't have the cajones eh? Thought so.

jimmypsn

I don't want anyone to leave GS, not even you or loosey. However you still back downed from my challenge, why can't you find just ONE 360 game on the same level and scale as the one I showed you? Why not? If what you say is true after all then surely you must have some evidence right?

Don't have the cajones for it eh?

Insert halo 4 pic here. There. I win. Now what about my challenge?

Lol you think Halo 4 is on the same level and scale as (again I will repost it since you avoided it completely)

THIS

Your just lying to yourself or you never watched the link.

And what about your challenge? Provide evidence that goes against mine, was that it? Well hurry up and do it already. I don't see why you need a challenge to do that.

But no I'm not leaving GS, mabey once college get's out for the summer I will probably take a break from here because I'll have better things to do.

No.Ravensmash

Lol you think Halo 4 is on the same level and scale as (again I will repost it since you avoided it completely)

THIS

Your just lying to yourself or you never watched the link.

And what about your challenge? Provide evidence that goes against mine, was that it? Well hurry up and do it already. I don't see why you need a challenge to do that.

But no I'm not leaving GS, mabey once college get's out for the summer I will probably take a break from here because I'll have better things to do.

ShadowMoses900

You mean based off what we have seen of Halo 4?

And Halo has always been a game that didn't shy away from grandiose battles.

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and this thread is about Bungie not Halo

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't want anyone to leave GS, not even you or loosey. However you still back downed from my challenge, why can't you find just ONE 360 game on the same level and scale as the one I showed you? Why not? If what you say is true after all then surely you must have some evidence right?

Don't have the cajones for it eh?

ShadowMoses900

Insert halo 4 pic here. There. I win. Now what about my challenge?

Lol you think Halo 4 is on the same level and scale as (again I will repost it since you avoided it completely)

THIS

Your just lying to yourself or you never watched the link.

And what about your challenge? Provide evidence that goes against mine, was that it? Well hurry up and do it already. I don't see why you need a challenge to do that.

But no I'm not leaving GS, mabey once college get's out for the summer I will probably take a break from here because I'll have better things to do.

Can't just copy and paste like you did. I have to have a good reason to do the work.jimmypsn

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Insert halo 4 pic here. There. I win. Now what about my challenge?

jimmypsn

Lol you think Halo 4 is on the same level and scale as (again I will repost it since you avoided it completely)

THIS

Your just lying to yourself or you never watched the link.

And what about your challenge? Provide evidence that goes against mine, was that it? Well hurry up and do it already. I don't see why you need a challenge to do that.

But no I'm not leaving GS, mabey once college get's out for the summer I will probably take a break from here because I'll have better things to do.

So in other words you got nothing, ok thanks, next time just admit it. It doesn't make you a bad person or anything, if you want to win an argument you have to provide evidnce to back your claims up like I did. That's Debate 101.

And I didn't copy and paste anything, I knew already what I wanted before hand because I already KNEW what I was talking about.

So in other words you got nothing, ok thanks, next time just admit it. It doesn't make you a bad person or anything, if you want to win an argument you have to provide evidnce to back your claims up like I did. That's Debate 101.

And I didn't copy and paste anything, I knew already what I wanted before hand because I already KNEW what I was talking about.

ShadowMoses900

Halos have always had large battles. The largest probably being the double Scarab battle from Halo 3.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

So in other words you got nothing, ok thanks, next time just admit it. It doesn't make you a bad person or anything, if you want to win an argument you have to provide evidnce to back your claims up like I did. That's Debate 101.

And I didn't copy and paste anything, I knew already what I wanted before hand because I already KNEW what I was talking about.

R3FURBISHED

Halos have always had large battles. The largest probably being the double Scarab battle from Halo 3.

Not even on the same scale as God of War 3 cronos fight. Not even close. And the double scarab battle isn't very big, it's also not very long either. You seriously can't believe it's on the same level as God of War 3 Cronos battle, you would have to be lying to yourself if you thought yes.

Here for proof:

God of War 3 - Kratos vs Cronos Boss Battle pt 1 / 2 HD

Dual Scarab Battle from Halo 3

Not even on the same level at all. You honestly can't believe it's on the same level after watching both of these, it's just silly to think otherwise. Not being a fanboy, just telling the truth.

a better question would be: should TC stop making threads because he's an idiot?

but we all know the answer

Not even on the same scale as God of War 3 cronos fight. Not even close. And the double scarab battle isn't very big, it's also not very long either. You seriously can't believe it's on the same level as God of War 3 Cronos battle, you would have to be lying to yourself if you thought yes.

Here for proof:

God of War 3 - Kratos vs Cronos Boss Battle pt 1 / 2 HD

Dual Scarab Battle from Halo 3

Not even on the same level at all. You honestly can't believe it's on the same level after watching both of these, it's just silly to think otherwise. Not being a fanboy, just telling the truth.

ShadowMoses900

I've played both multiple times (the only game I've got a Platinum trophy in is God of War 3)

Cronos is a helluva boss battle that is often shrunken down into smaller segments ie you fight small enemies while popping a blister (or whatever it is) or while tyring to to be smushed.
The Halo 3 battle is massive, with (probably more) damn near 100 unique AIs that are doing their own thing. If you fly to close to the ground you will be shot at by a Ghost while the Scarabs AA turrets are shooting at you or if you get in a ground vehicle the Scarabs will try to step on you while Covenant air will strafe you.

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And truth be told the Cronos battle has nothing on the Poseidon battle.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not even on the same scale as God of War 3 cronos fight. Not even close. And the double scarab battle isn't very big, it's also not very long either. You seriously can't believe it's on the same level as God of War 3 Cronos battle, you would have to be lying to yourself if you thought yes.

Here for proof:

God of War 3 - Kratos vs Cronos Boss Battle pt 1 / 2 HD

Dual Scarab Battle from Halo 3

Not even on the same level at all. You honestly can't believe it's on the same level after watching both of these, it's just silly to think otherwise. Not being a fanboy, just telling the truth.

R3FURBISHED

I've played both multiple times (the only game I've got a Platinum trophy in is God of War 3)

Cronos is a helluva boss battle that is often shrunken down into smaller segments ie you fight small enemies while popping a blister (or whatever it is) or while tyring to to be smushed.
The Halo 3 battle is massive, with damn near 100 unique AIs that are doing their own thing. If you fly to close to the ground you will be shot at by a Ghost while the Scarabs AA turrets are shooting at you or if you get in a ground vehicle the Scarabs will try to step on you while Covenant air will strafe you.

__

And truth be told the Cronos battle has nothing on the Poseidon battle.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not even on the same scale as God of War 3 cronos fight. Not even close. And the double scarab battle isn't very big, it's also not very long either. You seriously can't believe it's on the same level as God of War 3 Cronos battle, you would have to be lying to yourself if you thought yes.

Here for proof:

God of War 3 - Kratos vs Cronos Boss Battle pt 1 / 2 HD

Dual Scarab Battle from Halo 3

Not even on the same level at all. You honestly can't believe it's on the same level after watching both of these, it's just silly to think otherwise. Not being a fanboy, just telling the truth.

R3FURBISHED

I've played both multiple times (the only game I've got a Platinum trophy in is God of War 3)

Cronos is a helluva boss battle that is often shrunken down into smaller segments ie you fight small enemies while popping a blister (or whatever it is) or while tyring to to be smushed.
The Halo 3 battle is massive, with (probably more) damn near 100 unique AIs that are doing their own thing. If you fly to close to the ground you will be shot at by a Ghost while the Scarabs AA turrets are shooting at you or if you get in a ground vehicle the Scarabs will try to step on you while Covenant air will strafe you.

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And truth be told the Cronos battle has nothing on the Poseidon battle.

Poseidon isn't as epic, you fight him at the beginning and you just dodge his whater snake things. Still awesome. Cronos however is on a whole other level, that guy is HUGE! You literally have to climb your way to him while fighting off all his minions, it's not easy at all.

Only epic moment I had in a Halo game was the ending of Halo 1, the escape off the autumn, that was awesome. But even then nothing in the series is that technical or on the same scale as God of War 3. Especially not the cronos battle. The two scarabs is nothing really, hell Halo 2 you fought like 2 scarabs as well, just not at the same time.

It's not massive at all, you can beat it in less than 10 minutes. Can't do that with Cronos at all.

I say they should skip making the game for this generation all together.

Anyways, their reasons are just. The engine they've worked with for years is built exclusivly for Xbox 360 hardware. It will take them a lot more time to port the engine or rebuild it on the PS3 and build the game on the PS3.

hell Halo 2 you fought like 2 scarabs as well, just not at the same time.

ShadowMoses900

Halo 2 had one Scarab that walked through a water way, which you shot rockets at while it trudged through then you boarded it, killed its occupants and destroyed the Scarab.
The largest battles in Halo 2, for sheer numbers, was probably the Prophet or Regret boss battle or some part in the level Uprising. Though there was the end when Johnson piloted the Scarab with you providing cover in a Banshee

The Xbox 360 is a dying console, so I'd say yes. It seriously need more 1st party devs.

Yes, because I have both consoles and Microsoft needs to invest more in exclusive core titles.

I could care less as long as i get to play it on 360 i'm happy.

and this is why i hate fanboys, instead of letting more people enjoy Bungies game, you have this weird mentatlity

Chris_Williams

It's funny, people like you don't have that attitude when Sony buys up talented development studios.

If its yet another generic FPS I think it would be better to keep it on the Shooterbox.:P

I don't really think the Cronos battle was truly a massive battle. You're just fighting a few elements that are presented in real time like his hands. It's not like you can attack his feet or anything. The background is fooling people to think otherwise.crusadernm

I hate Activision.

Why is Bungie with them, why? Activision will drive them into the ground just like treyarch and infinityward.

Bungie's games aren't that good and neither are their graphics, so it'd be rather pointless for them to remain exclusive unless they want to make less money or MS decides to bankroll them.Fossil-

You have halo to thank for the refined FPS on consoles, brattah.

Well, the game already isn't exclusive, so what's the point of this question again? Just asking. :P

[QUOTE="Fossil-"]Bungie's games aren't that good and neither are their graphics, so it'd be rather pointless for them to remain exclusive unless they want to make less money or MS decides to bankroll them.GOGOGOGURT

You have halo to thank for the refined FPS on consoles, brattah.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Fossil-"]Bungie's games aren't that good and neither are their graphics, so it'd be rather pointless for them to remain exclusive unless they want to make less money or MS decides to bankroll them.carljohnson3456

You have halo to thank for the refined FPS on consoles, brattah.

It would be more optimized but less people would be able to play it, so no but it is clear that Playstation fans do not want this to be exclusive but you can bet if the shoe was on the other foot, they would think differently about the issue. Just sayin.

They only made xbox games because they were imprisoned by microsoft, now they are free, FREEEEEEEEE I tell ya!

Yes it should be. The only people saying no are cows desperate to finally have a good FPS on PS3.

If it isn't on ps3 or pc then i will boycott bungie's next outing since i refuse to pay a monthly online subscription to play the multiplayer component of games i already own.

If it isn't on ps3 or pc then i will boycott bungie's next outing since i refuse to pay a monthly online subscription to play the multiplayer component of games i already own.

[QUOTE="Fossil-"]Bungie's games aren't that good and neither are their graphics, so it'd be rather pointless for them to remain exclusive unless they want to make less money or MS decides to bankroll them.GOGOGOGURT

You have halo to thank for the refined FPS on consoles, brattah.

Why should Activision restrict it to the Xbox platform? It makes no utter sense business wise as they're not getting any sales they could have gotten from the Playstation 3 or PC nor could they sell DLC to those platforms plus Microsoft sure isn't offering any incentives to stay Xbox exclusive.