What is a determing leap with PC hardware that would divide generations?
What do you guys think?
(for instance, PC games from 2000-2005 should only be compared to PS2, Xbox, Gamecube.)
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What is a determing leap with PC hardware that would divide generations?
What do you guys think?
(for instance, PC games from 2000-2005 should only be compared to PS2, Xbox, Gamecube.)
[QUOTE="Bromz"]Whats the point...Spartan070
For easier categorization and comparisons against same era console games.
There would be far too many PC generations. The PC is already one generation ahead of consoles in terms of technology. Besides, reviewers don't split up generatiosn when comparing PC games for reviews. Thats why standards are so bloody high. If you want to split it into generations, you'd have to convince reviewers as well to warrant any kind of fair comparison to consoles.Nah Pc Gaming goes more like a gradual upwards slope, rather than big jumps like consoleskcm_117
There are still "chonological landmarks" we can use to help clarify defining turning points in PC gaming though.
When a new console generation arrives it replaces the old one. One could think of it as when a new PC generation arrives it is simply added to the previous one, which would explain the 100% backwards compatibility paradox.Spartan070Tiaking backwards compatibility out of the equation, why shouldn't the next PC gen start with the consoles? After all three have been released? So PC games have a chance to start over with a set standard. That would mean Crysis and Spore, Starcraft II would be "next gen" PC games. Company of Heroes and other recent games should be included as killer apps though. :?
I don't know, tough subject.
Tiaking backwards compatibility out of the equation, why shouldn't the next PC gen start with the consoles? After all three have been released? So PC games have a chance to start over with a set standard. That would mean Crysis and Spore, Starcraft II would be "next gen" PC games. Company of Heroes and other recent games should be included as killer apps though. :?[QUOTE="Spartan070"]When a new console generation arrives it replaces the old one. One could think of it as when a new PC generation arrives it is simply added to the previous one, which would explain the 100% backwards compatibility paradox.duncanvk
I don't know, tough subject.
Crysis is a gen ahead of all consoles atm. SC2 is current gen though. Thats what makes differentiating on PCs so hard. A next gen game could come out before a current gen game. Its just all crazy like.Crysis is a gen ahead of all consoles atm. SC2 is current gen though. Thats what makes differentiating on PCs so hard. A next gen game could come out before a current gen game. Its just all crazy like.Vandalvideo
Crysis is slightly ahead but gens are categorized chronologically, not technologically. The 360 is far more powerful than a Wii but they are both the same gen.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Crysis is a gen ahead of all consoles atm. SC2 is current gen though. Thats what makes differentiating on PCs so hard. A next gen game could come out before a current gen game. Its just all crazy like.Spartan070
Crysis is slightly ahead but gens are categorized chronologically, not technologically. The 360 is far more powerful than a Wii but they are both the same gen.
I thought gens were categorized by sequential upgrades in technology. Atleast thats what the Meriam's definition is. In which case, the PC has "sequential upgrades in technology" about every eight months. :o[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Crysis is a gen ahead of all consoles atm. SC2 is current gen though. Thats what makes differentiating on PCs so hard. A next gen game could come out before a current gen game. Its just all crazy like.Vandalvideo
Crysis is slightly ahead but gens are categorized chronologically, not technologically. The 360 is far more powerful than a Wii but they are both the same gen.
I thought gens were categorized by sequential upgrades in technology. Atleast thats what the Meriam's definition is. In which case, the PC has"sequential upgrades in technology" about every eight months. :o That is true but as showcased by the 360-Wii example, the gens don't change every time someone has a "sequential upgrades in technology." When the 360 was launched, a new gen was born. When the Dreamcast was launched, a new gen was not launched. It's circumstantial, not perpetual.Tiaking backwards compatibility out of the equation, why shouldn't the next PC gen start with the consoles? After all three have been released? So PC games have a chance to start over with a set standard. That would mean Crysis and Spore, Starcraft II would be "next gen" PC games. Company of Heroes and other recent games should be included as killer apps though. :?[QUOTE="Spartan070"]When a new console generation arrives it replaces the old one. One could think of it as when a new PC generation arrives it is simply added to the previous one, which would explain the 100% backwards compatibility paradox.duncanvk
I don't know, tough subject.
aye it is. ure idea is not abd but the problem imho is that PC hardware still upgrades during a console generations life. the technology is constantly changing and improving. it still doesent really level the playing field.
where to draw it....hmmm. what about direct x version? any game that runs on DX10 is a next gen PC game. theres still OpenGL to consider though. and the hardware still constantly improves.
theres no point doing it by graphics gen or processor gen since A) its way too short a timeframe and B) Dx10 games could be played on older hardware with just a graphics hit (itll be quite some time before we see games with no support for DX9).
maybe windows version? there are other OSs out there but there irrelevant from a games standpoint so that could possibly work. u still have the changing hardware though. and what if DX11 also comes to vista?
ugh ure right.....tough subject.
i suppose, since all next gen consoles work with their last gen counterparts and we could compare all their playable games. eg it would be Pc vs PS3, PS2 and PS1.
Tiaking backwards compatibility out of the equation, why shouldn't the next PC gen start with the consoles? After all three have been released? So PC games have a chance to start over with a set standard. That would mean Crysis and Spore, Starcraft II would be "next gen" PC games. Company of Heroes and other recent games should be included as killer apps though. :?[QUOTE="Spartan070"]When a new console generation arrives it replaces the old one. One could think of it as when a new PC generation arrives it is simply added to the previous one, which would explain the 100% backwards compatibility paradox.duncanvk
I don't know, tough subject.
Yeah...taking it out? Why take it out if its there? This is kinda stupid who cares what 'era' the PC is in...no matter what its always going to be faster then consoles.[QUOTE="duncanvk"]Tiaking backwards compatibility out of the equation, why shouldn't the next PC gen start with the consoles? After all three have been released? So PC games have a chance to start over with a set standard. That would mean Crysis and Spore, Starcraft II would be "next gen" PC games. Company of Heroes and other recent games should be included as killer apps though. :?[QUOTE="Spartan070"]When a new console generation arrives it replaces the old one. One could think of it as when a new PC generation arrives it is simply added to the previous one, which would explain the 100% backwards compatibility paradox.RichieRich555
I don't know, tough subject.
Yeah...taking it out? Why take it out if its there? This is kinda stupid who cares what 'era' the PC is in...no matter what its always going to be faster then consoles.I just feel it's hard to compare and contrast consoles and PC's if they aren't all unified under basic constraints.
What is a determing leap with PC hardware that would divide generations?
What do you guys think?
(for instance, PC games from 2000-2005 should only be compared to PS2, Xbox, Gamecube.)
duncanvk
If you want comparisons from 2000 and up, go to brokenrabbits thread. It has the total number of AAA/AA from 2000 and up. PC has more AAA and AA's than each console.
[QUOTE="duncanvk"]What is a determing leap with PC hardware that would divide generations?
What do you guys think?
(for instance, PC games from 2000-2005 should only be compared to PS2, Xbox, Gamecube.)
trix5817
If you want comparisons from 2000 and up, go to brokenrabbits thread. It has the total number of AAA/AA from 2000 and up. PC has more AAA and AA's than each console.
I know. I really enjoyed that thread, much ownage there... :PPlease Log In to post.
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