Should we be worried if the Wii wins?

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

TrueReligion_

how about you actually listen more than just calling it a damm freaking Cube :|

i got the right to use any faces on gamespot

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

DA_B0MB

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk,  powerful than xbox,  news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

name a 360 launch game that was good for 360 :| oh wait you cant

mlb 2k6 perfect dark zero etc.... just look nothing more than upgrade xbox.

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

DA_B0MB

how about you actually listen more than just calling it a damm freaking Cube :|

i said it was more powerful than xbox :| and it its accodring to ubisoft

  "that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did. "

 stories and eviorments grapchis :roll:

try sadness, raid over river - going to be hell of story 

there plenty games.

If Sony and Microsoft mimic Nintendo's strategy this gen, Nintendo won't be taking the same route. They'll be advancing to something else.

The Game Boy line had a death grip on the handheld market. With the DS, Nintendo could have just released a slightly upgraded GBA, but they did something different when there wasn't a need to.

If Sony and Microsoft mimic Nintendo's strategy this gen, Nintendo won't be taking the same route. They'll be advancing to something else.

The Game Boy line had a death grip on the handheld market. With the DS, Nintendo could have just released a slightly upgraded GBA, but they did something different when there wasn't a need to.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

wavebrid

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk,  powerful than xbox,  news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

name a 360 launch game that was good for 360 :| oh wait you cant

mlb 2k6 perfect dark zero etc.... just look nothing more than upgrade xbox.

Wii's winning strategy was to NOT copy the competiton. If Sony and MS want to go the wii route, then they should do some thing original and not copy Nintendo.goblaa

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

If Sony and Microsoft mimic Nintendo's strategy this gen, Nintendo won't be taking the same route. They'll be advancing to something else.

The Game Boy line had a death grip on the handheld market. With the DS, Nintendo could have just released a slightly upgraded GBA, but they did something different when there wasn't a need to.

the-very-best

But I thought Nintendo had brand name advantage in the handheld market. :? If that were the case, the PSP wouldn't have been too much of a problem, even against a slighty upgraded GBA.

Just playing on your field here. :P

We have the same brain DA_B0MB!

I pretty much agree with all of that, and I'd argue much of the same points.

I don't want the Wii to win. I think I've made that very clear. I think it's an excellent console and Nintendo certainly made the right move this gen but if it wins then Sony/MS will be forced to conform and I really like how both of them push their hardware since it gets us great games with both excellent graphics and excellent gameplay.

You don't need a new controller to be innovative. Games like GTAIII, RE4, Okami, SOTC, Halo are all evidence of that.

I want the Wii to do well (and I'm sure it will do better than the GC in sales) but I don't want it to beat the PS3 or 360 (and I don't see it beating PS3/360 anyway, but I could be wrong).
the-very-best

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

TrueReligion_

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk,  powerful than xbox,  news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

name a 360 launch game that was good for 360 :| oh wait you cant

mlb 2k6 perfect dark zero etc.... just look nothing more than upgrade xbox.

explain my damm link :|

oh wait you cant  "wii is not much MORE POWERFUL THAN XBOX"

than care to explain my link????

damage control

This is NOT a Wii bashing thread!

(Please read everything to prevent yourself from looking like an idiot :))

The Wii is doing ridiculously well all across the world. It's still hard to find one and it's said you won't be able to find one easily until at least the end of this year. Why is the Wii so successfull though? Simple; the controller is attractive to casuals/non-gamers and it's very cheap for a video game console. Most casuals and non-gamers are convinced to buy one after playing a little bit of Wii sports. It's not so much Zelda is driving in casuals as much as you may think, it's Wii sports. The simplistic, quick, easy to learn series of mini games.

Now why would anyone be a little worried if the Wii wins? It's fun right? Isn't that what games are about anyway? For someone like me, not entirely. For me, I value deep storylines, immersive eviorments, cunning AI and yes... gorgeous graphics (and ofcourse gameplay...duh). Am I a graphic whore simply because I appreciate graphical and technical aspects of a game? No, I can have tons of fun with a less technically advanced game as well, but these things are what really intrest me in new games and systems. Games that can take me places that I haven't been before and give me new experiences through the most current advances in technoligy as well as deliver fantastic gameplay are the games that I love the most (this is why I'm so hyped for Mass Effect). Not just gameplay alone, though gameplay is very important to me still.

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did. The Wii focuses more on quick, easy fun with the Wiimote rather than focus on technical and graphical aspects. Now let's say the Wii wins... by a landslide... The mighty titans SONY and Microsoft will scratch there heads and have a collective "Wtf?...". SONY and Microsoft would have both given you fantastic games that give you the most state of the art visuals and immersive stories and inviorments with great gameplay, but that still wouldn't have been as attractive as the Wii's quick and easy fun.

Could SONY and Microsoft both abandon their value for all the technical wonders that we are all wowed with and go for something similar to the Wii's approach if the Wii wins? One thing is for sure, if the Wii does win, this thought will run through the offices of both Microsoft and SONY as they both make their next generation consoles. Will it happen? No one knows, but you cannot say it can't. That is why someone like me who values the most technically amazing parts of a game is a little worried. I don't want XBOX 360/PS3 graphics and abilities in 2012.

DA_B0MB

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]We have the same brain DA_B0MB!

I pretty much agree with all of that, and I'd argue much of the same points.

I don't want the Wii to win. I think I've made that very clear. I think it's an excellent console and Nintendo certainly made the right move this gen but if it wins then Sony/MS will be forced to conform and I really like how both of them push their hardware since it gets us great games with both excellent graphics and excellent gameplay.

You don't need a new controller to be innovative. Games like GTAIII, RE4, Okami, SOTC, Halo are all evidence of that.

I want the Wii to do well (and I'm sure it will do better than the GC in sales) but I don't want it to beat the PS3 or 360 (and I don't see it beating PS3/360 anyway, but I could be wrong).
DA_B0MB

"To be honest, it's not much more powerful than an Xbox. It's like a souped up Xbox," a major third party source revealed to us. "But it's the controller that makes the difference and the controller is really nice."

http://wii.ign.com/articles/673/673578p1.html

wavebrid

Now truewhatever read

We have the same brain DA_B0MB!

I pretty much agree with all of that, and I'd argue much of the same points.

I don't want the Wii to win. I think I've made that very clear. I think it's an excellent console and Nintendo certainly made the right move this gen but if it wins then Sony/MS will be forced to conform and I really like how both of them push their hardware since it gets us great games with both excellent graphics and excellent gameplay.

You don't need a new controller to be innovative. Games like GTAIII, RE4, Okami, SOTC, Halo are all evidence of that.

I want the Wii to do well (and I'm sure it will do better than the GC in sales) but I don't want it to beat the PS3 or 360 (and I don't see it beating PS3/360 anyway, but I could be wrong).
the-very-best

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

TrueReligion_

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk, powerful than xbox, news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]We have the same brain DA_B0MB!

I pretty much agree with all of that, and I'd argue much of the same points.

I don't want the Wii to win. I think I've made that very clear. I think it's an excellent console and Nintendo certainly made the right move this gen but if it wins then Sony/MS will be forced to conform and I really like how both of them push their hardware since it gets us great games with both excellent graphics and excellent gameplay.

You don't need a new controller to be innovative. Games like GTAIII, RE4, Okami, SOTC, Halo are all evidence of that.

I want the Wii to do well (and I'm sure it will do better than the GC in sales) but I don't want it to beat the PS3 or 360 (and I don't see it beating PS3/360 anyway, but I could be wrong).
AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

HappySunnGuy

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk, powerful than xbox, news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

TrueReligion_

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk,  powerful than xbox,  news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

name a 360 launch game that was good for 360 :| oh wait you cant

mlb 2k6 perfect dark zero etc.... just look nothing more than upgrade xbox.

how about prove me wrong

why are you posting a 360 picture? when i said wii is more powerful than xbox not 360 :roll:

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

wavebrid

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk,  powerful than xbox,  news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

name a 360 launch game that was good for 360 :| oh wait you cant

mlb 2k6 perfect dark zero etc.... just look nothing more than upgrade xbox.

explain my damm link :|

oh wait you cant  "wii is not much MORE POWERFUL THAN XBOX"

than care to explain my link????

damage control

Your link is utter BS. I see no game on the Wii that looks 2x better than any XB game.

[QUOTE="wavebrid"]

"To be honest, it's not much more powerful than an Xbox. It's like a souped up Xbox," a major third party source revealed to us. "But it's the controller that makes the difference and the controller is really nice."

http://wii.ign.com/articles/673/673578p1.html

wavebrid

Now truewhatever read

PROVE ABOVE READ THE DAMM LINK

http://wii.ign.com/articles/673/673578p1.html

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

With that said, as far as AI, more immersive stories/eviorments, and graphics, the Wii won't give you much more than what the Gamecube did

you lost ALL CERBILITY RIGHT THERE

TrueReligion_

wii already providie more than gc.

vc games, web browser, weather channel. vote channel reulgar size disk,  powerful than xbox,  news channel...

Yes i have my right :|

name a 360 launch game that was good for 360 :| oh wait you cant

mlb 2k6 perfect dark zero etc.... just look nothing more than upgrade xbox.

explain my damm link :|

oh wait you cant  "wii is not much MORE POWERFUL THAN XBOX"

than care to explain my link????

damage control

Your link is utter BS. I see no game on the Wii that looks 2x better than any XB game.

Just beaucse there no game 2x better than any xb game that menas its not more powerful

DAMAGE CONTROL

But I thought Nintendo had brand name advantage in the handheld market. :? If that were the case, the PSP wouldn't have been too much of a problem, even against a slighty upgraded GBA.

Just playing on your field here. :P

Tsug_Ze_Wind

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]We have the same brain DA_B0MB!

I pretty much agree with all of that, and I'd argue much of the same points.

I don't want the Wii to win. I think I've made that very clear. I think it's an excellent console and Nintendo certainly made the right move this gen but if it wins then Sony/MS will be forced to conform and I really like how both of them push their hardware since it gets us great games with both excellent graphics and excellent gameplay.

You don't need a new controller to be innovative. Games like GTAIII, RE4, Okami, SOTC, Halo are all evidence of that.

I want the Wii to do well (and I'm sure it will do better than the GC in sales) but I don't want it to beat the PS3 or 360 (and I don't see it beating PS3/360 anyway, but I could be wrong).
peaceful_anger

Are you ever going to prove your point, or should I continue to embarass you?TrueReligion_

i have posted a link to prove your wrong. you havent prove anything to me. so accodring to your logic

360 couldnt do better than that

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Are you ever going to prove your point, or should I continue to embarass you?wavebrid

i have posted a link to prove your wrong. you havent prove anything to me. so accodring to your logic

360 couldnt do better than that

You know what? Your posts really annoy me sometimes. You always state that you want Nintendo to do good, but then you always say negative things about them. It's like a back-handed compliment. You're basically insinuating that the wii can't produce great games because it want have EXCELLENT GRAPHICS and excellent gameplay and that only the PS3/360 can provide that. Except for graphics, any wii game could have a better storyline, atmosphere, characters, gameplay, art style, ect than any PS3/360 game.peaceful_anger

[QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Are you ever going to prove your point, or should I continue to embarass you?TrueReligion_

i have posted a link to prove your wrong. you havent prove anything to me. so accodring to your logic

360 couldnt do better than that

that is in gameplay picture and that was a xbox game alittle upgrade for 360 thats all...

so if you cant accpet that why should i accpet your 360 picture? Beacuse i made my point

[QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Are you ever going to prove your point, or should I continue to embarass you?TrueReligion_

i have posted a link to prove your wrong. you havent prove anything to me. so accodring to your logic

360 couldnt do better than that

For the love of chuck norris, it has only 3 mini game games! Do you people see any more on the freaking horizon?Sonick54

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]We have the same brain DA_B0MB!

I pretty much agree with all of that, and I'd argue much of the same points.

I don't want the Wii to win. I think I've made that very clear. I think it's an excellent console and Nintendo certainly made the right move this gen but if it wins then Sony/MS will be forced to conform and I really like how both of them push their hardware since it gets us great games with both excellent graphics and excellent gameplay.

You don't need a new controller to be innovative. Games like GTAIII, RE4, Okami, SOTC, Halo are all evidence of that.

I want the Wii to do well (and I'm sure it will do better than the GC in sales) but I don't want it to beat the PS3 or 360 (and I don't see it beating PS3/360 anyway, but I could be wrong).
DA_B0MB

:lol: That was pretty funny.

Nintendo does have the brand name advantage in the handheld market. I completely stick by that because I know it's true.

However, I think if Nintendo had released a handheld that is just slightly better than the GBA (ie, a GBA with improved graphics, no touch screen, no online, kinda like the jump from GBC to GBA) then the PSP would have had much greater success.

They didn't do that though. They added a lot of features like online, touch pen etc, and the although the graphics were worse they still kept all the major series that everyone loves in the handheld market like Pokemon so they were pretty much guaranteed success. Even when the analysts were saying PSP would win I still thought DS would win (I actually bought the handheld day one because I was so confident, plus it has some great games).

Brand name isn't everything. You must retain major series and you must add new features to your handheld/console.
the-very-best

Consider the flaws of the PSP, some of which have quite a lot to do with the lack of sales.

The failure that is the UMD format (probably the biggest factor right there), the minute-long load times (on a handheld, downright inexcuseable), the console ports (not to mention that the PSP's target audience probably all have PS2's), the targeting a very limited audience (teenagers), that analog...nub....thing (it scares me). 

And of course, the GBA2 would still have Nintendo franchises and more "brand recognition (Because of most likely keeping the Game Boy name)" on their I think it would be a closer race, but the PSP would lose out in the end.

But then, it would basically be between who sucks less.

EDIT: I just noticed, this is getting quite off-topic. Oops.

I hope in some ways they do and understand when you pass a price that it going to be hard to sell your system....The cheaper the better

I hope in some ways they do and understand when you pass a price that it going to be hard to sell your system....The cheaper the better

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Are you ever going to prove your point, or should I continue to embarass you?poopinloop32

i have posted a link to prove your wrong. you havent prove anything to me. so accodring to your logic

360 couldnt do better than that

who said anything about grapchi war :|

i posted a link from mlb2k6 not 2k7

You know this war is pretty much the lamest war in history right? The only people who see any significance in this war are the people in this forum, who's fragile little worlds hinge of weather or not "their" console is #1 (not a statement to the general systems wars public, but about certain people who will not be named) If the Wii wins this war the only thing that will be change is that some Cows on this site won't be around cause they will have performed Seppuku and some Lemmings will have gone into a catatonic state.

You know this war is pretty much the lamest war in history right? The only people who see any signifgance in this war are the people in this forum, whos fragile little worlds hinge of weather or not "they're" console is #1 (not a statment to the general systems wars public, but about certian people who will not be named) If the Wii wins this war the only thing that will be change is that some Cows on this site won't be around cause they will have performed Seppuku and some Lemmings will have gone into a catatonic state.

Private_Vegas

hmm yes thats true but it so fun watching them squrim. plus im so board :)

You know this war is pretty much the lamest war in history right? The only people who see any signifgance in this war are the people in this forum, whos fragile little worlds hinge of weather or not "they're" console is #1 (not a statment to the general systems wars public, but about certian people who will not be named) If the Wii wins this war the only thing that will be change is that some Cows on this site won't be around cause they will have performed Seppuku and some Lemmings will have gone into a catatonic state.

Private_Vegas

[QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Are you ever going to prove your point, or should I continue to embarass you?wavebrid

i have posted a link to prove your wrong. you havent prove anything to me. so accodring to your logic

360 couldnt do better than that

who said anything about grapchi war :|

i posted a link from mlb2k6 not 2k7

[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Are you ever going to prove your point, or should I continue to embarass you?TrueReligion_

i have posted a link to prove your wrong. you havent prove anything to me. so accodring to your logic

360 couldnt do better than that

who said anything about grapchi war :|

i posted a link from mlb2k6 not 2k7

:lol: son you havent owned me 1 freaking time

"

"To be honest, it's not much more powerful than an Xbox. It's like a souped up Xbox," a major third party source revealed to us. "But it's the controller that makes the difference and the controller is really nice."

http://wii.ign.com/articles/673/673578p1.html

I never said wii is more powerful than 360 i said xbox

and picture dont prove crap which i prove my point with 360 mlb2k6.

son STOP YOUR DAMAGE CONTROL