shouldn't TVs go into the cost of a console?

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

Sailor_Enlil

You can plug your PC to a TV, you can plug your console to a monitor.

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

Sailor_Enlil

the diffrence is most households have tv's they are a neccesity now when you think about it i cant think of one person who doesnt have one.Its like not having a mobile phone it just doesnt compute.

razgriz_101

The difference is that most households, particularly thosewith multiple residents like entirefamilies,already have a TV (in fact quite a number of households have several - mine has 4!). Hence the cost of the TV almost isn't considered in the Console.

Sailor_Enlil

I would have a TV regardless of whether or not I had a console. But, I don't have a monitor because I use a laptop. So, no, it shouldn't be included.

You also need a planet to live on. That's probably like $1290589125647519860961209560976192508916285961782650896120956982165982165012701².

I had my tv for a long time before I got my Wii. I got it last gen when it replaced my old 13 inch SDtv that had a chip in the screen. I currently have a 19 inch SDtv.

no. you dont need to buy a tv when you buy a console, since you probably already have one.. who seriously buys a tv every generation for their new console?

Sword-Demon

Er...I do...

Um, no. While there is no doubt that some people may buy an expensive TV for a new console, 99% already have a TV, meaning that it is not a cost of console gaming.

Sure, if it wasn't already a given that we all have TV's.

bobcheeseball

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You don't buy a TV to play video games.

Silverbond

neither a monitor, but to be fair I did by my HD to play video game :X

I've never seen anyone count monitors into the cost of PC gaming...

Exactly. This whole thread is a fake argument. I've seen hundreds of cost threads and no one seriously counts the monitor costs. TC is doing a good job of trolling us :)

TV should not be counted neither monitors

no. you dont need to buy a tv when you buy a console, since you probably already have one.. who seriously buys a tv every generation for their new console?

Sword-Demon

if you want HD resolutions you had to upgrade this gen

Like why is there a sudden uptick of PC fanboys?

is it the Steam sale?

TVs shouldn't be part of the cost of a console, just like how a moniter shouldn't be part of the cost of a PC. ;) Keyboard and Mouse are the only extra things that can be included in the cost of a PC. A controller is included in the price of a console, but keyboard and mouse isn't included in a self-built PC (though they are in a pre-built).

It is totally hypocritical when people say you have to include the price of a moniter, but not a TV though.

All these console fanboys keep saying that pc is expensive like $1500+ but then some sensible guy shows a build for like 500 bucks but then he gets penalized for not including a monitor. If monitors are accounted for a pc's price then shouldnt a tv be included in consoles price?

btw, the arguement that everyone has a tv already doesnt work because well obviously everyone also has a pc especially YOU since you are reading this.

iliatay

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All these console fanboys keep saying that pc is expensive like $1500+ but then some sensible guy shows a build for like 500 bucks but then he gets penalized for not including a monitor. If monitors are accounted for a pc's price then shouldnt a tv be included in consoles price?

btw, the arguement that everyone has a tv already doesnt work because well obviously everyone also has a pc especially YOU since you are reading this.

TheGreatOutdoor

I'd say the costs for both should be negated. Who here already doesn't have a PC monitor? I mean how can you surf the web right now here? Next most HDTVs out now can be both PC monitors or TVs. I use the on in my room for gaming on PC and Consoles. Frankly I think it's moot. Its not like you have to buy a new t.v. with every new console, nor is it likely you're buying a new monitory when upgrading your PC. If you're building a new PC, chances are you have an old monitor but if you don't, chances are you likely have a way to view and if you don't, that's an extra cost, but it's not like most people don't have a monitor for the computer already. yoshi_64

TV's are already in place in every home, as the viewing device for tv shows. Being used as a console display is an optional feature, but regardless if used for that or not, it will always be there for the TV viewing.

PC monitors on the other hand are exclusively used for PC displays, so are a connected package. They won't be used without a PC.

Of course anybody upgrading the PC can transfer their monitor over. However this does lead to something I've been meaning to get off my chest. Shouldn't the cost of the OS be factored into the PC? Unlike the display, the OS can't be transferred over to the new rig. Maybe that was possible pre-2000, but when XP came along Microsofr introduced the activation needed to keep the OS running, where each copy of Windows is attached to a hardware profile of the machine it was installed on.

So if I understand correctly, if someone took their XP, Vista, or Win7 disc and tried to install it on another machine, then tried to activate it, a discrepenacy would show up in the data sending process that shows it had already been previously activated on a machine with completely different hardware specs (CPU, GPU, RAM, MoBo specs, etc...) and preventing its successful activation.

MS set things up that each machine needs its own copy of Windows, so a new one would have to be bought for a new machine. Maybe that's not the case with Linux, but lets not kid ourselves here, that OS hardly has the usage that Windows does, and games aren't made for that OS, just as surely as PC fans are quick to point out they aren't made for MacOS. OK, some games are, but not anywhere near as much as what Windows has available.

So? Does the cost of a new copy of Windows factor into the cost of a newly home built PC?

If your sole purpose for buying a TV is for console gaming then that can be added to the cost of ownership of console gaming. Not the cost of the console itself.

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All these console fanboys keep saying that pc is expensive like $1500+ but then some sensible guy shows a build for like 500 bucks but then he gets penalized for not including a monitor. If monitors are accounted for a pc's price then shouldnt a tv be included in consoles price?

btw, the arguement that everyone has a tv already doesnt work because well obviously everyone also has a pc especially YOU since you are reading this.

Hahadouken